Iris Midgar the Broken Princess & How She Became the Most Hated Character | Iris Character Explained

Iris Midgar is one of the few hated characters in the Eminence in Shadow but how did she become like this? Let's take a dive at her character overall to see the reasons behind her drastic turn from a symbol of hope full of arrogance to a craze & broken person. And is the hate for her character warranted, why she became the most hated character. Iris Character Explained.
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[@white0thunderwhite0thunder71]

She reminds me of Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda; someone who was brought up to believe she was the best and destined for greatness only to be crushed by reality and ended up take out her frustration on others in a futile quest for vengeance and redemption.

[@AnimeRumpai]

That's another good example

[@earlrice8095]

True, but at least with Tai lung, he actually had the ability to back up his arrogance. He defeated the furious five, shifu, and dominated po for most of the fight. Plus, he managed to escape chor gom prison (forgive my misspelling as I don't know how to spell) with ease. He pummeled the guards, escaped from his chains shell prison, managed to jump on a platform, use it as a shield to repel what looks like to be hundreds of arrows at once, and managed to do all of this by himself. He has shown many times throughout the 1st movie why he's a force to be reckoned as he took on/defeated some of the strongest characters in the franchise.

[@TheBlueboy7777]

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[@sdbzfan1]

@@earlrice8095 his point still makes sense before Shadow showed up she was considered the strongest in the kingdom, whether thats true or not doesn't matter the point is like Tai Lung she believed she was destined for greatness and everyone fed into it, but then someone comes along and shatters that reality she begins a spiral downwards

[@earlrice8095]

@@sdbzfan1 I'm not saying they're wrong, bit I am saying is that Tai lung has done more to make the audience believe that his behavior is justified, as opossed to iris who we're is the strongest, but we don't see anything that shows she's worthy of the accolades she had. Hell, she and a bunch of guards couldn't defeat a monster that got one shot by alpha. She lost to shadow twice, and she somehow believes she still has some shot to kill him. Her behavior is more of her being delusional l, but Tai lung is more understandable in his beliefs since he has beaten some of the most powerful characters in the kung fu panda movie. That's why Tai lung is more sympathetic, but iris isn't. Tai lungs is more of a show don't tell portrayal. Iris is more of a tell, don't show. She lost several times and still believes she can do something she obviously can't, where Tai lung came very close to his goal and was only barely stopped by po. Both have an ego, but to the fans, one feels more justified in having an ego, and one really doesn't deserve to have one since she even one of shadows members take down a monster she couldn't. That should've opened iris mind to the possibility that there could be stronger warriors than her, but she didn't. All she thought is that they used artifacts and not from raw power itself. She wasn't willing to accept that there was a slim chance that there are warriors who are superior to her, which is weird consider she knows beatrix, who in fact is called a war goddess, and she doesn't use artifacts. That's why Tai lung is more sympathetic, and people are happy to see iris get her ego put in check.

[@michaelmurray8134]

Personally it's not completely her fault. A lot of Iris's Education was put into her physical development and not enough towards her mental Development, and this is the first time she's ever dealt with failure. It's easy to accept failure as a child or teenager because you're still learning and you'll know you'll get better but as an adult it weighs more on your psyche because you never thought you would ever fail in the first place. I think that's the main difference between Alexia and Iris. Alexia Knows how to handle failure while Iris doesn't.

[@masonstauffer5974]

I can sort of see why people dislike her but I still see her as a very well written character.

[@itsblitz4437]

I mean still don't understand half the hate behind her but I can understand why she acts in what she does.

[@King_of_Blue-Eyes]

@@itsblitz4437 me too. It must be because the anime made her take the villain action if we compare with the manga and light novel.

[@AnimeRumpai]

She is a well written "villain" that's for sure, got to commend the writer for that

[@VivioSaf]

I think it has to do with her motivation in the final battle of the season, being simply to try annoy Shadow with all she could, like a brat.

[@VivioSaf]

@Olgreybush That's why I said what I said. It was pretty clear how out classed she was. So, all she did couldn't be called nothing but a annoyance!

[@KaiserAfini]

I would argue Delta has a healthier train of thought than Iris. Delta is strong and proud of it, but knows she is not smart, so she cedes the leadership to smarter people, even though she is only below Shadow and Alpha in the "pack's ranking". She is sociable and is happy to enjoy a relatively anonymous life in her downtime. She has good instincts, but never lets her pride get in the way of listening to them, and she is constantly striving to be stronger. Delta is not smart, but she is wise.

[@sirreepicheeprules7443]

Delta knows her place, she understands her own strengths and weaknesses. Iris does not, she became proud and never learned to deal with failure because she was talented and praised, so she is humiliated when the truly strong like Shadow take action.

[@HeartStargaming16]

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[@maxmorals9701]

@@sirreepicheeprules7443 I think you guys give Delta too much credit because she is one of the protagonists and Iris is the antihero. It is basically bias against Iris. Just think if you were really good at one job it was something you loved and have it stolen away from you. Cid is a psychopath and you guys cheer for the guy who literally is toying with everyone and messing up their lives.

[@akiranozomi8514]

​​@@maxmorals9701uh Iris is just way too arrogant just coz people call her the strongest her self esteem is way too high even more than the god-damn mc himself so it was really refreshing seeing her self esteem or pride getting destroyed..but even if I say myself cid sure did her bad lol but it was worth it looking her face at the end xD opps I feel like I am bit of a sadist, Jk

[@user-ec7fh9sp3h]

To be honest, I can relate to Iris. I was an honor student from elementary to high school and took great pride in my academic achievements. However, when I entered college and began pursuing my chosen course, I soon realized that academic excellence can only get you so far. While I may have had an initial advantage, I encountered individuals who were far superior to me, and it shattered my confidence. Here I was, an excellent student throughout my entire educational journey, only to be outperformed by someone much more talented. This experience triggered a downward spiral in my emotional and mental well-being as I tasted failure for the first time. And it only kept going until the day I graduate. Now I am happy with a passing grade. A younger me would not settle less for a B. That's how I got slapped by reality.

[@damen9578]

Alexia moved past her hardship towards her ambition. Iris’s ambition just collapsed when she experienced hardship.

[@dark-xh7fs]

What Ambition? What exactly do you mean?

[@sammydray5919]

Her entire life has been dictated by the expectations and responsibilities constantly thrust upon her ever since she was young. Even when she tried to do good in wanting to help people, she got denied because the higher ups wanted her to remain with them as a symbol for her power and what she represents. Her bond with her baby sister got fractured because of circumstances outside of her control and it took the sister get out of her own inferiority complex (remember it was Alexia who took Iris' words as condescending while Iris was just trying to be genuinely caring towards her sister). On top of all that the ENTIRE Kingdom religiously believing her to be THE strongest. Just imagine living constantly under all that pressure. I like Alexia but dont even PRETEND the two sisters' circumstances are in any way comparable at all. Anyone who thinks that has to be genuinely stupid

[@bioshogushin606]

​@sammydray5919 finally someone says it. Honestly, majority of the hate that Iris gets is because she's probably the only female character that's the MC's fan girl.

[@inugalazerozone6156]

Iris ambition was to continue being "perceived" as a powerful princess and proofing her self worth by doing so. This was before she met alpha and witness shadow's power. After meeting shadow her ambition deranged into blind pursuit of power and proof of worth according to her belief by killing shadow, despite being shown shadow garden not the real enemy.

[@sammydray5919]

@@inugalazerozone6156 You mean to tell me a character whose entire life had been determined by how powerful she was and how powerful she was perceived to be had her reality shattered when an unknown terrorist showed up and proved that he was LEAGUES above her thus entirely killing the foundation on what her entire life had been dictated by?? Color me shocked 💀

[@merrymonkey5172]

Hero falling from grace trope done right. Watch Cid chuunibyou a redemption arc for Iris and help fix her relationship with Alexia.

[@irateastartes1206]

I pity Iris rather than hate her for one simple reason no matter what she does or how she acts she is doomed to be the one thing she fears more than anything else, irrelevant. The cult and shadow garden are capable of running rings around her and both sides least fighters are more than able to destroy her in a fight. She is a sheltered princess being forced to deal with the real world for once and it won't be kind to her.

[@rustkarl]

In fairness the secret societies power defies reasonable levels by the standards of this world at large. This isn’t the real world punishing naïveté, this is out of left field stuff that breaks what is considered a sensible level of power. This is the illuminati meets power fantasy and the normal people are caught in between.

[@inugalazerozone6156]

Well said my friend.

[@TrapTrax]

I was able to read the 6th volume of the ln and I started pitying her more after reading Here's a spoiler . . .. . . . . . . . . Her father pretty much knows that the cult is corrupting her and decided not to do anything to stop it heck he's actually aware of Alexia's kidnapping from volume 1 and he just let the cult do it Now that same father is suggesting for Alexia to support the shadow garden in case a full war occurs between the cult and shadow garden they can preserve their blood line no matter who wins

[@Ares-hi2hw]

​@@TrapTraxbecause the Emperor knows they are useless anyway, and that's a good move, and the only problem is Alexia is disliked by SG.

[@ThePinkRubber]

@@Ares-hi2hw definitely bad dad but as he is a ruler first and foremost, i respect his decision. Being emotional will not get you anywhere when you have the lives of the whole kingdom on your shoulder

[@JDWalker495]

Honestly I think the fall of her character was well done and gradual. I wouldn’t call her a bad character since her fall from grace was the intention of the writer. I’d only consider a character bad with they failed at conveying the writer intention. Iris is currently a hatable character given her status as potential villain, but I’d call her character journey so far as good.

[@ihavekalashnikovyoudomath9275]

This is honestly the best way to think of what an actual "bad" character is. Not an evil or unlikable one, but a poorly written one. If the character is intended to be evil, they're not necessarily "bad" they're a villain. If a hero is unlikable, they're only bad if the written didn't intend him to be. Cid is a good example. He's ment to be selfish, psychotic, and narcissistic. That makes him awful morally and as a human, but that's what the author wanted. So he's not necessarily a "bad" character. People only think he's "bad" because they think he's the Hero of the story. Protagonist sure, but far from the Hero

[@charlesdale4026]

It will be disappointing if she just ends up as a villain because she would be easily defeated by most of the upper echelon of shadow garden, the only one she could beat is Gamma. I think she will try to fight someone like Alpha but will end up learning that she has been played by the cult and have another mental breakdown. Alexia cares for her and will learn much more in the future, being there to help Iris when the time comes.

[@slayerman517]

In my opinion Iris is a character that shows what most people think is powerful, she sets the bar of strength for how powerful shadow garden and the cult is, seeing iris fall into despair also gives me the impression that alexia is gonna overcome her sister and show her that she can’t just live for others expectations all the time and will eventually be closer than ever once alexia gets power through arduous trails and training

[@AncientBeast65]

Ironic fate would be that Iris would suffer Demonic Possession for tampering with artifacts that she accused Shadow using and be persecuted by her own people.

[@AnimeRumpai]

That's quite the irony if it does go that way 😂

[@VivioSaf]

You forgot to point out that the Anime actually cranked her unlikability to the max during the final battle of the season. In the novel (and Manga), the battle was limited to the arena, being watched by, virtually, all the people in the Kingdom. So, her reasoning to participate was to defend the honor of her country by stopping Shadow's "rampage". Neither she lowered herself to seek "borrowed power". She also didn't broke down in frustration for her powerlessness, the end of the conflict left her more confused (who's the true enemy and what not) than anything else. But, in the Anime ... the battle spread way beyond the arena, out of the view of everyone else (who were in capable of noticing the battle happening around them), only with the collateral damage as proof of the battle. Her reasons to join the fight was just her inflated ego that couldn't accept that there was someone that she couldn't defeat. Ultimately, by bringing the artifact with her, she only increased the collateral damage the city took when Shadow deflected their attacks. She was more interested in being a annoyance to Shadow than anything else. Also, didn't helped that they completely removed Shadows lines about "the true enemy", which made it look like the battle was only a means to a greater end for Shadow. Instead, the Anime gone above and beyond, with Shadow showing off like a lunatic. In the end, the novel had Iris end the Bushin Festival only confused, what's implied that the cult took advantage of her confusion to corrupt her. In the Anime, she fallen into madness on her own!

[@sdbzfan1]

so the anime made Cid look more crazy for causing the fight to over extend and made Iris look fcuken stupid yup sounds like an anime adaptation to me

[@dark-xh7fs]

I feel completely different about anime iris. To me she still wanted to save everybody- but this s time she choose to stop shadow- who according to Knowledge she had - was terrorist. She take artifact on order to close the gap in power- and be Able to do something. So she throw away her Pride in order to have better chance at shopping cid. I didn't see anything that would resemble iflated ego. She was trying to stop Villaian knowing full well she is not strong enough. To me her anger and frustration is just the way to express her powerlessnes. In that way she like many MC that choose to fight in helpless situation. What else could she do? Let him go free to do as he wish? Her Negative Emotion make her more human in my eyes. Then she still losses- shes Powerless to protect anything- that gotta hurt. All her effort was wasted. She was in fact ready to lose her life. And all that was not enough.

[@ieatwalnut9088]

The manga was on point on the last part of bushin based on LN but the volume 5 of LN made the last episode of the anime the right approach for upcoming volumes.

[@kacchanvotlenick6499]

Its still better for vol 5 like if they followed the old one and not from the webnovel it just wouldn't make sense why she was so bloodthirsty and delusional against shadow in LN vol 5, they got to show that emotion or else its like an empty insert of another character.

[@ieatwalnut9088]

@@kacchanvotlenick6499 hmm I read the web novel I thought it ended on john smith arc did the author continued it?

[@goldenangel158]

I can see Alice becoming queen in the end of the series because she has better people skills and can see through people's lies and she knows her own weakness and tries to do better

[@sammydray5919]

Her entire life has been dictated by the expectations and responsibilities constantly thrust upon her ever since she was young. Even when she tried to do good in wanting to help people, she got denied because the higher ups wanted her to remain with them as a symbol for her power and what she represents. Her bond with her baby sister got fractured because of circumstances outside of her control and it took the sister get out of her own inferiority complex (remember it was Alexia who took Iris' words as condescending while Iris was just trying to be genuinely caring towards her sister). On top of all that the ENTIRE Kingdom religiously believing her to be THE strongest. Just imagine living constantly under all that pressure. I like Alexia but dont even PRETEND the two sisters' circumstances are in any way comparable at all. Anyone who thinks that has to be genuinely stupid

[@HoLeeFoc]

What impressed me the most, was the contrast between Iris and Beatrix when it came to dueling with Shadow. Beatrix motivation seemed to be driven by the joy of sparring with a formidable opponent while Iris was for vanquishing the only person who had ever bested her in combat. At the end of the fight, Beatrix's level of maturity really stood out as well compared to Iris' lack of it. At the train station, before leaving the city, Beatrix's parting words to Iris that there are existing entities (i.e. Shadow) that mortals could never hope to rival, and that Iris had no reason to feel ashamed for it, were very true. Beatrix is a very wise, powerful and beautiful stoic.

[@ricardoospina5970]

The sad part is Delta is better than Iris in almost every way, other than intelligence. We all saw what Delta did in a more powerful anti-magic field. Also upon meeting Shadow she knew she could never defeat him, so she didn't try. We have never seen Shadow kill a woman, more likely she will be defeated by her own sister Alexia. A one sided fight between her and Delta might be fun, with Delta giving her a hug after defeating her, because we all know not even Shadow can avoid or block Delta's hugs.

[@itsblitz4437]

Why the even the comparison?

[@Anythings_go23]

Ikr

[@KaiserAfini]

Delta hugs to mark Cid with her scent, Zeta does that too. She does not care about Iris enough to do that.

[@earlrice8095]

Funny, what you just said actually proves that delta is smarter than Iris. Think about it, delta never fought cid because she knew she didn't stand a chance. Now compare to someone like iris who has fought and lost to shadow twice (the second fight with mind assistance from someone who is much stronger than her and an extremely powerful weaon might i add), and yet somehow still wants to try and fight shadow again, and she still believes that she has a chance to win even though her two losses say otherwise. I think that speaks volumes about who is smarter and who isn't.

[@kacchanvotlenick6499]

​@@earlrice8095 maybe wiser not smarter

[@King_of_Blue-Eyes]

Considering her position, talent, environment and the expectations she had it is understandable that she had such naive personality compared to her sister Alexia who learned human nature at a very early age. They made Iris more of a dislikable character in the anime if we compare to the manga and light novel. I feel bad for her, I hope she doesn’t get killed at least.

[@ranaoblivious2122]

I read both manga and novel. According to my own reading, she won't be killed but she will continue to degrade to the point of becoming obsessed in becoming the strongest. Alexia once saw her sister's swordsmanship as beautiful. Now, in her own word, "Sister Iris, your sword looks ugly". I hope Iris has a redemption and realize her situation.

[@King_of_Blue-Eyes]

@@ranaoblivious2122 What if she also falls for Shadow later. Considering his luck, it’s not impossible. 😏

[@ranaoblivious2122]

​@@King_of_Blue-Eyes a possibility for now.

[@JesusSaves383]

​​@@ranaoblivious2122 Bro, did Alexia really say that?💀

[@ranaoblivious2122]

@Abyss master This event happens after her battle against Shadow. Her defeat crushed her pride and caused her to pursue strength in an unhealthy way. Iris's previous reason to become strong was to protect and serve her country. Now, her reason is selfish; to defeat Shadow.

[@itsblitz4437]

I could see the comparison Azula from ATLA & Iris is pretty spot-on as I could see being a very tragic villian.

[@sirreepicheeprules7443]

Talented, arrogant and unhinged, completely unable to handle failure, stubbornly unwilling to change or acknowledge their faults. Yeah Iris and Azula are alot alike.

[@asandax6]

​@@sirreepicheeprules7443 But Iris isn't crazy she hasn't tried picking up guys by calling their outfits sharp.

[@dansphalt9544]

@@sirreepicheeprules7443 but that’s where the similarities end. Azula’s trauma is mostly due to her mother leaving her and she only became those traits you described her thanks to her stuck up father. Once he was out of the picture her mental health started improving, both for better and for worse. At least she’s trying to change, even if it’s in her own way.

[@phantomsea8987]

A hero see themselves as the savior to the people is the most dangerous person. But for Iris situation, she is pressured to be in that position by plus another blow another blow to her ego just made her went south somewhat like a gifted child.

[@AnimeRumpai]

😂

[@syphi2948]

“Hated” is an understatement

[@AnimeRumpai]

Got to stay positive about it XD

[@itsblitz4437]

Sometimes a little bit of a over statement in my view.

[@JavoCover]

I don't hate Iris, is just someone whose reality bubble exploded.

[@Vontrilogy]

This why they make all anime characters so shallow nowadays. She doesn’t do anything for her to deserve the hate people just always hate anyone who opposes the MC. Its her job to protect her kingdom and they made it obvious she doesn’t know intentions shes just doing what she thinks is best since shadow runs around like a maniac blowing stuff up half the time. Wishing death on her for doing what her character is suppose to do just cause she opposed the crazy (by design) mc is stupid knowing how the show makes Cid like that on purpose😭

[@King_of_Blue-Eyes]

In the LN and manga, she isn’t even that bad. 😢

[@kiraexe.7856]

I still need to read the ln but I believe the reason she’s so hated is cause she refuses to admit that it’s ok to fail or be wrong . She is just overconfident and full of herself she isn’t a bad person per say but stubbornness and overwhelming pride is a very potent mix to get hated.

[@kiraexe.7856]

Especially when you can’t back it up with power, intelligence and is constantly loud and wrong. Like he said she’s basically azula … if you took away everything that made her badass (so by extension likable) and had her being born with the potential to be a good person . Result is a spiraling maniac that refuses to get help and pushes its self into insanity.

[@Vontrilogy]

@@kiraexe.7856 I see where your coming from but at the end it wasn’t overconfidence fueling her actions it was the effects of depression and helplessness on someone who never experienced it. Also, i feel like this community loses sight of the fact that for a lot of ppl shadow would be the villain that needs to be stopped even though he’s our mc so we want to like him and thats why they hate ppl who go against him.

[@kiraexe.7856]

@@Vontrilogy i know that it didn’t fuel her actions but it’s a trait that is really hated when not paired with the right positive traits. Also imma be honest with y’a I both hate cid and iris but you are right about people just hating her cause she goes against the mc

[@commander31able60]

All of this just makes me hate Shadow more, because of how his actions cause undue harm to otherwise innocent people.

[@INEXPLIcabl]

Hated character? I fucking love her fury

[@altzerz]

Definitely give me a better understanding of her character and it’s understandable if people hate her personally I don’t really care for her would be nice for her to get a redemption arc would be kind of sad if she becomes a villain

[@AnimeRumpai]

Glad I could be of assistance 😂

[@jaylenivery5505]

Iris isn't my favorite and neither is Alexia, but I must admit Alexia is the better sibling of the two and Iris will probably become just as delusional as Cid. Also the comparison with Iris and Azula was completely accurate. Great Job.

[@supremefankai5480]

I hate people who don't learn from their mistakes even a little, stagnation leads to death, both as a character and in life.

[@King_of_Blue-Eyes]

It doesn’t help her that she had “talent” in the sword. And being a princess made it harder for people to say something special during her younger days.

[@YakubNg]

Never hated her. Tbh one of my favorite characters.

[@DarkFrozenDepths]

The way I see it, Iris is clearly going to end up as a villain that little will sympathize with, unlike Sherry, who is looking like a sympathetic villian at this point. Both are basically manipulated by the situations around them, but don't face it properly like Alexia and Rose. But Iris is worse than sherry given that the issues she deals with is by her own hands and she refuses to believe it even when everything points against it. She's also going into too stupid to live territory given that Shadow clearly showed her that he can wipe out her kingdom in the blink of an eye and yet she STILL thinks she has a shot, even with Beatrix clearly telling her not to overreach too much.

[@AnimeRumpai]

Yeah, you have a fair point about the both of them

[@VivioSaf]

I feel the novel is going in a direction that puts Alexia in a similar position to Rose. But contrary to King Oriana, Iris will not become a Zombie. She'll probably go on a similar route to Zenon, or Millia!

[@NekoMahjong]

I hope Alexia will beat the shit out of her and tell her that how she become weak, tho I doubt it will get through her if she saw her sister's swordmanship got influence from the man she hate so much.

[@orboakin8074]

Great video, friend. I never knew she was a hated character. I have watched the anime and she never came off as hateful. Simple minded, yes. Too by-the-book and quick to label Shadow Garden as enemies but nothing to be hated much. Her desire to protect her sister and her kingdom is also very heroic. I have finished reading the first volume of the novels and am halfway through volume 2 but maybe I will find why she is hated as I read more.

[@JohnSmith-qb9ex]

She's one of the most complex and interesting character of the show. Unlike Shadow, who act like a baboon most of the time, she actually had heavy responsibility and face many threat within and outside her kingdom. She struggle between her love for her sister, her duty as a princess, she need to be strong for her kingdom and people, to protect them from enemy, she need to act strong cause she know she's the only bulwark of her nation (and the only powerhouse of Midgard kingdom). Why people hate her demonstrate the lack of insight from fans who "love" this show.

[@rustkarl]

Agreed. From a meta standpoint Iris’ character is consistently written with a logical process (if one takes a moment to remember that the characters aren’t in possession of the facts the audience are.) For the overall plot Iris stands as a benchmark for the pinnacle of reasonable strength in this world in that day and age. What is commonly and publicly seen as the martial pinnacle. She’s a prodigy fighter, one of the best magic knights the kingdom has and EVERYONE knows it. She’s operating under the expectations of both royalty and talent that the entirety of society places on her. She’s surprisingly realistic when one understands what rules she’s operating under. As royalty her reputation reflects on her family and kingdom. As a martial champion her worth is tied to her skills. At the same time her father’s cautious approach yields no results. Caution is fine but passivity is crippling. She is trying to be responsible and proactive in safeguarding her kingdom from an insidious cult that she knows has infiltrated her kingdom and likely others. But information is lacking, her support is weak and she lacks options beyond using martial feats to get wheels turning through a display of prowess. She’s at once dutiful and powerless and caught between two powers that defy reasonable limits. Which brings me to my next point, where we have the Cult of Diabolos. A secret society that’s been squirrelled away for centuries synthesising power beyond human limits, the luxury of time and vast wells of magic power at their disposal to create super soldiers that inspired myth and legend. Unseen and unremarked as to their strength they are incredibly dangerous, elusive and unlike Shadow Garden have been shown to refine their tools over their lifetimes to be as powerful as they are. Their power seems reasonable considering the advantages they have but is still beyond the single cumulative efforts of the normal world. Then there’s Shadow Garden who flat out break the rules because reasons (seriously, there’s no macguffin or justification why Cid and the others are mountain above everyone else. Dedication and talent is one thing but this is breaking suspension of disbelief, but I digress.) Their power flat out breaks any established rules, limits or guidelines as to how power works other than because this is a comedy series and overpowered protagonists are the current thing on the parodic chopping block.

[@digivagrant]

Shadow puts the Prime in Prime ape. I would say he is the complete opposite of Saitama.

[@ryanw531]

@@rustkarl Well not really, if you remember SG members are descendants of the Legendary Heroes that inherited their strength, which would normally kill them due to the curse but with Cid's cure they are able to fully develop their powers (hence why no super strong characters before Cid arrived), the Heroes themselves were genetically modified super soldiers that the cult spent ages testing and refining (IDK why they stopped after they got Diablos but I guess they got distracted by immortality research). This is a flimsy reason for a OP Protag but the only person to break the rule is Cid for being a guy since all descendants seem to be female, but he does have the bloodline evident by the fact his sister was also cursed (His sister is also strange for being so weak as a descendant but I guess that was hand waved by Cid teaching SG his cumulative martial knowledge from our world).

[@darkly7378]

And that is another reason to hate her. She is arogant to the point "if i cant do it, no one can". Type of person who should never be allowed to rule.

[@enigmaticspace7578]

@@rustkarl The power of SG's members isn't really rule breaking if you analyze it again. First, they were descendants of the 'heroes' genetically altered by the Diabolos cult. That right there should already clue you in that they're stronger than normal people. How strong? It varies from each person, but it's still a fact that they're stronger than the average person, OR, that they have the capacity to be stronger than regular people not part of the blood line of the 'heroes'. Second, there's Cid himself. Cid trained himself to become stronger since childhood. It's already shown in his past life how he's dedicated to his training. Heck, in the manga, they've shown him to be unrealistically buffed for his age. Of course that shouldn't be taken too seriously. It's just showing us, the viewers, that Cid is, and always, a dedicated person when it comes to becoming strong enough to defeat a nuclear explosion. In the first place, it's even shown that he's already killing bandits when his age was still in the single digits. Add to that the fact that there are extremely powerful beings in that world, like real dragons and such. And this person, who's ridiculously so dedicated into becoming a 'nuclear power', is the one who trained the SG members, at least the initial seven. Can you still say that they're power is rule-breaking to the established rules of the world? No, not really. Sure, there's still some level of 'OP-ness' and 'rule-breaking' on their part, but it's not as much as what you think. If anything, it's still within reasonable levels, albeit at the very limit of being reasonable.

[@chaosstormcreator]

Me personally, I don't give a fuck how many people hate her (which I can understand from certain point of view. At least from a narrative stand point if you know at least the LN content) But I actually really like Iris character, like I can somewhat see what direction the author is writing for her. (The downfall of the hero) and I am up for all that. If done well, she can potentially become one of the best writers characters in the show. If she end up becoming a villain or at least a tragic hero who later obtain redemption etc.

[@herpderp5727]

I'll be honest I feel like the biggest reason why people hate her is because she opposes the MC. Which is usually the case in many Isekai IMO. I personally find it refreshing to see someone who isn't sycophantically devoted to the MC. Someone with their own personalities, flaws, goals, struggles. Will she get better, or sink even further? Her delusion and refusal to accept reality (going as far as to attempt harming her sister for trying to tell her the truth) is probably why she's hated.

[@AnimeRumpai]

That's a fair point, in terms of character writing, she is definitely good and the author definitely did an amazing job if the readers and viewers actually do hate Iris as a character

[@Nakama4Forever]

I had no idea she ended up going crazy 😧 I have got to pickup this LN. Btw very funny moment for me, during you video at 8:52 it looks like she is wearing a santa hat 😂

[@AnimeRumpai]

You should pick up the light novel, good read, also I didn't noticed it until you said it, 😂

[@Nakama4Forever]

@@AnimeRumpai ok, I think I will look up the first volume online next week. Thanks for conveniencing me 🙏

[@franklinwhitsell2987]

I think Iris is probably the most relatable character in the series so far. She wants to do right but no matter how powerful she is (or thinks she is) always falling short of others expectations. We dislike her because it reminds of us our own limitations and things we've failed at in life. She has good intentions when it comes to protecting her country as well. However, she is short-sighted and often doesn't realize her impulsive nature hinders her gaining status with her peers. She decides shadow garden is the enemy of her country, but doesn't have any good evidence. In life we all make bad assumptions that lead us to worse decisions. Her character is a painful reminder that we as humans are quite flawed even if we have the most noble of intentions. She is the one female in the series that isn't really a trope, and you can kind of tell the author is basing this character off someone they knew in real life. If you think about it, despite all the other stuff happening in season 1, she's the only character that had any development (albeit negative) at all. Rest of the characters are the same or just more powerful for the most part. To me, Iris was actually the main character of season 1. Shadow has done many things, but his character remains all powerful and same character since the beginning episode. Season 1 was basically an origin story and Iris the only notable character change we got. To me it seemed pretty well done as we've all seen or been in situations where we were trying our best but just kept failing. Not all stories end with the hero saving the day.

[@hamfishtheiii]

I love Iris, great character, always love the characters that have breakdowns over a strength difference.

[@typhir5911]

She is a tragic character because of her inability to see her own faults. Iris is also very sheltered given her life as a royal princess and thus easily manipulated by the Cult since her own subordinates are working for them. She is conscious of this, but at the same time she has most likely never been told that she needs to improve, which causes her to have a big ego. She may be considered one of the strongest normal characters in the series, but when compared to the Shadow Garden under Alpha's command, she wouldn't even measure up to Rose post training much less more powerful members like Victoria. Iris deludes herself with thinking that Shadow and the others are using artifacts and this will eventually corrupt her, which I'm guessing is the Cult's true aim to control the kingdom through its crown princess. My hope is that Alexia manages to somehow break through to her sister and save her from her mad crusade against Shadow Garden before it consumes her entirely. I would say Alexia has much better control over her emotions and her own self than her sister and she has demonstrated more political will and deftness than Iris has thus far. This is most likely due to her being the second princess and thus not seen as important as Iris is and as a side effect of this, Alexia is a much more well rounded person.

[@tyjuanbowman1536]

She did. Now Iris is traveling and going down the road of self reflection.

[@Kyojuiro]

She just wants to protect her kingdom but Shadow caused many trouble.

[@willtews955]

She put the entire weight of the kingdom on her shoulders, most likely is that because of her being a woman in a time period similar to medieval and renaissance. No one wanted to teach her knowledge on how to lead, politics and she was sheltered and distance because of her status. Unable to have any friends because of status, maintaining distance and noble status. Everyone had high expectations of her that were unrealistic, putting her on a pedestal and she did it to her self as well. Her own self worth was linked to her whole life, men that last a fight would probably talk behind her back and say it's because of royalty lineage is why she's so strong, or she's not a man but a woman and it doesn't count or they make excuses for there failure. She works hard and no one notices it. She and her sister are similar and both emotional. Hormones, youth, expectations, goals, pain and disaster. Being royalty is not easy. There father is terrible and distant. She has a complex but that is no reason to hate a character. Her character has depth, pain, struggles and is pretty realistic.

[@Magama567]

I think iris is in the position to be set up as a good villain. Being an underdog villain, one who has to grow to match the strength the of the mc rather than the mc growing to the strength of the villain. she has the talent to do so

[@AnimeRumpai]

If the writer does her character well, iris might end up being quite interesting for a redemption arc

[@JustinStrife]

I don't think ANYONE will ever grow in power enough to come close to challenging Shadow. Not even Alpha who is probably #2 on the power scale. It's more likely Alexia will surpass Iris.

[@yixo]

@@JustinStrife Wouldn't #2 be Aurora?

[@AtikulIslam-gp8qc]

Why anyone would hate her!?! Bcz she thought she would win against shadow in the last fight!? She was the strongest of that nation ffs 🤦‍♂️ What kind of moron would hate a character like Iris?! One could hate her younger sister tho 🤷‍♂️

[@bluecat6902]

Instead of hating her, i actually pity her. She is the first princess of the country and she is rhe head of the order that is responsible to her people's safety. So that responsibility gave her a pressure that pushes her to succeed. If she fails, the people will know they are not in safe hands and that will bring her, the order and her kingdom shame. Alexia being the younger sister, despite having her own problems in her life, is not someone who shoulders the safety of her kingdom as much as iris is. You can feel her anguish when she loses to shadow because of it. Its not that she is too proud to lose, its just that she cannot afford to lose because of her position which holds a lot of expectation and responsibility from the whole kingdom.

[@sansssss6022]

Спасибо за видео ты единственный кто делает такие видео хотя и не часто но они качественные было интересно слушать

[@itsblitz4437]

I hope you do a video on Claire & Sherry next.

[@geraldarquizal5388]

Iris, on her mind she is the most powerful person in to the kingdom that has excellent military force and academy. It's safe to say that the Midgar kingdom is the most powerful nation in their world (dimension) in terms of military so here comes Shadow or Cid Kagenou hiding as incompetent son of a poor Baron younger brother of strong Clair(as people know) has a capability to destroy any kingdom he wants(nuclear weapons are strongest today) but always hiding as secret hero. If you are Iris what will you do? Iris also believe in story of the cult and yes she only believe on herself but I don't think Iris has a match on Delta, Alpha or Shadow (Cid) himself so her being antagonist c'mon give Cid a stronger opponent not so delusional princess that still believe she is the strongest in her kingdom.

[@Ares-hi2hw]

Cid trained himself to become a nuclear.

[@keithunderwood8803]

The fact people hate her so much makes her a great character. Much like Pain from Naruto. She's basically an Anti-Villian.

[@creeprnsidelink1918]

I once stated my opinion that I couldn't understand why people would like her. People weren't happy with that and their reasons for liking her is she is a big buxom redhead and their fond of her va, and apparently she has some waifu qualities. I'm so glad I'm not the only who hates Iris, and there are people with sense in their head.

[@enigmaticspace7578]

People like you who hate her shows how much you didn't understand her character. She's a tragic villain because her attitude is the product of her upbringing and the unbelievable amount responsibility thrust into her since her childhood. She never had a true figure that taught her the value of humility and the importance of learning from her mistakes. Everyone around told her that she's a prodigy, and that she's the best out of everyone. Do you seriously expect her to become a decent human being by modern day standards with that kind of upbringing? Yes, she is a likable character, not because of her attitude, but because of how well-written her character is, up until this point of the story. Well-written? Yes, she's a well written character. Why? Because there's a connection between her attitude and her upbringing. And people like me who like her wants to know what she'll do next. Will she continue down her path to insanity, or will she finally start learning from her mistakes and try to become a better human being? And it wasn't just told to the viewer. It was shown to the viewers. Even if her screen time is shorter than the others, there was still enough exposition to show how her upbringing and her surroundings affected her way of thinking. And for you to say that people who hate on her are sensible? If anything, people who hate on her are people who have superiority complex. People who hate on her just picked out her wrongdoings, but they never tried to understand nor make a connection as to why she was like that in the first place. If you truly understood her character, then you wouldn't hate herm, because the ones responsible for her current attitude is her surroundings. Oh yes, she's still wrong. She's still a VILLAIN, but an understandable one. The fact that you just picked on her wrongdoings and didn't try to understand what caused her to be like that that shows your awful attitude. And for you to claim that people that hate on her are sensible? You've just shown that you are worse than Iris herself, and that you're incapable of understanding the complexities of human behavior.

[@creeprnsidelink1918]

@@enigmaticspace7578 Despite that whole long comment you've typed, my opinion will still stand, because it's my opinion. I will say though that you've give the best defence of her I've seen. You like her, that's your opinion. I think I may have a went a bit far saying there are people with sense in their head, because everyone truly is entitled to their own opinion. Just one word of advice to you, next time you type something out like this, try not to sound like a simp, it might make people not disgrard everything you said.

[@kinoxbriggs8412]

She is not a villain 😅

[@enigmaticspace7578]

@@creeprnsidelink1918 Okay. I'll admit that I did went too far on criticizing you for that. I apologize for that. I'm not against you having your own opinion. I was just criticizing you for what seems to be an unintelligent opinion. We all have the right to express our opinion, but we have the responsibility of making sure that our opinion is well thought of as much as possible. A lot of people who hate on her just points out her wrongdoings. Yes, she's wrong and a bad person for what she has done and what she's now doing. I wouldn't deny that. But the least we can do to respect the author's work is to understand the character before we criticize any of his characters. Many people who hate on her didn't even try to understand her upbringing and just simply bashed her. That's disrespectful to the author. Besides, hate is a very strong word, and it's not right to equate hate with not liking. That's why I had an issue with you saying that hating her is sensible, because hate is never sensible. It makes us irrational. Isn't this the reason why our world is a shitty place to live in?

[@creeprnsidelink1918]

@@enigmaticspace7578 If you really hate a character, you must first understand the character, if you don't you'd simply be a fool. Example: Shou Tucker from Fullmetal Alchemist, a anime character where even the word hate is too small for what I feel for him. I do hate Iris personally, but I understand why she is like that. Also, I must say that this comment of yours was much better than the last one.

[@sebaredghost9068]

I think Iris can also be compared with Sasuke from Naruto, they’re both cocky and arrogant in the beginning then getting frustrated after losing. She might unintentionally join the Cult in order to gain power against Shadow, just as Sasuke join Orochimaru to defeated Itachi.

[@AnimeRumpai]

From the way the writer is setting her up, that's possible

[@KyleD718]

No cause she is more of a righteous character

[@stampoulisrafail7836]

@kingofassholes4348 and they never will xd

[@akmon3490]

Broken warrior princess falls on hard times , where did I hear that combination of words before

[@quynhhathixuyen2085]

I'm just finished the anime few days ago and all I can say is that she is the only character that I really love. She is not a perfect character or the most powerful one but that make her more interesting in my eyes❤ Thank you for the video btw

[@kenjilad]

you gotta feel bad when she got got by a guy slouching like that

[@kenyonzebeda9644]

Nah she had to get a piece of that humble 🥧 😂

[@gino456123789]

Her being totally humilated and humbled by Shadow is probably what put her over the edge. She doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed so I imagine her privilege growing up and automatic sense of importance got shattered when fighting an opponent utterly stronger and more tempered then her. Whereas Beatrix clearly was studying Shadow and acknowledging his skill to probably fight him again for sport someday, Iris was like a spoiled rich kid being run through the gravel pit. I guess its just an inability to acknowledge when your wrong or when you need to train more against the opposing force.

[@asandax6]

It's not an automatic sense of importance it's expectations placed on her since birth. Her sister isn't suffering from the same effect since she has the total opposite situation of Iris (no one expects much from her). It's like the situation of gifted kids after a while they stop caring and stop trying or they go insane trying to be the best because everyone expects them to be the best.

[@Tugela60]

No, she is expected to rule, so any personal failure has national implications. The pressure on her is immense as a result.

[@Charley-ju6yg]

I didn’t even know she was disliked

[@af2547]

In the novel I saw her as more composed than in the anime. Then again I read the webnovel, the light novel may have just changed her from calm princess not understanding what lurks beneath her kingdom and trying to fix it into revenge princess. Or I’ve severely misinterpreted her lol.

[@Prodigal450]

I felt sorry for her. Not one ounce of hatred towards her at all

[@buildaggedonarmanaziie4462]

I hope that they bring Beatrix and Annerose back because I haven't seen them in the manga after the God of War Tournament. I hope that both of them are brought back, but I am very curious as to how Annerose will react when she finds out that Mundane Mann was Shadow, or that Shadow was Mundane Mann, either way you know what I am talking about. I want both Beatrix and Annerose to come back. Along with Alexia and Iris.I hope that they bring Beatrix and Annerose back because I haven't seen them in the manga after the God of War Tournament. I hope that both of them are brought back, but I am very curious as to how Annerose will react when she finds out that Mundane Mann was Shadow, or that Shadow was Mundane Mann, either way you know what I am talking about. I want both Beatrix and Annerose to come back. Along with Alexia and Iris.

[@megakaioken9386]

Honestly, I don't feel that strongly about Iris either way, but I definitely understand the hate. She reminds me of Hinata Sakaguchi from Slime Tensura, except Iris actually has to face the consequences of her actions and failures, and right now she is struggling. Im hoping she gets a redemption arc, partly because her dynamic with Alexia was cute and I wanna see them get along again. I also just really like a good redemption arc, but honestly all she needs to do is eat a slice of humble pie and start listening to her sister. So far she hasn't actually done anything especially bad, it's just her outlook on life and the people around her that needs work.

[@tozu777]

Iris being as prideful and talented as Azula is pretty accurate but she's also suffering from her downfall like Zuko. Zuko tried forced his way to success with power and the occasional brute force. Iris, as you mentioned, is going through the same thing. Zuko still had a mentor to lift him up and keep pushing, Iris does not. She kept running through her training like a new player complaining about the tutorial being 'too easy' and never evolving what she knew to push herself. When Shadow Garden comes and shows her how far behind she is, Iris chalks it up to them using artifacts to boost their power. Not realizing how badly she's been squandering her talents. I don't think she's a bad character, I just think she needs to read that overdue book titled: Reality.

[@eduardorojas9131]

I believe she will have a change to redeen her self with shadow she probably loose her right as heir to did throne but end up joined shadow garden with her sister.

[@muutay1279]

I know that this is a fictional stroy. But, there are limits for a character. Rose, Axelia, Claire, as well as the new girl from Cid's world are all believable. Hell, Sherry can be far more better than this muscle head. I really hope Sherry herself doesn't get much worse since she uses her head for the most part instead of having a 3rd leg contest like Iris.

[@sirreepicheeprules7443]

Sherry is a smart researcher, but she is utterly clueless of the things going on around her, such as all the terrorists Cid killed because her stealth ability is laughable. She is easily manipulated because she is so trusting and naïve.

[@doc2green]

Well done with your videos once again @anime rumpai. To answer your questions, I don't think she can be best girl nor best villian(mainly for being to weak and basic;best villians are strong and complex), nut she can be called best sucker for falling so easily for the cult's schemes and maybe biggest idiot after cid(yeah i still hate him for treating his new life like a game and not taking things as serious as he should). That being said you should have mentioned how the main reason she underestimated shadow was due to believing his power came from an artifact, unwilling to believe the magic blast she saw when rescuing Alexia was his own power. That being said I can't wait for the next video and I hope it will be about claire kageno, the crazy big sister of cid, and maybe you can finish the eminence in shadow series after that(or maybe after a combined video for annerose and sherry since they each only showed up once and have yet to make another proper appearance but probably will given they're goals being entangled with shadow, and possible the fox girl yukime from the great trading company conflict), and do other anime until season 2 of eminence in shadow comes out. P.s. yeah she deserves the hate she gets for being an stubborn, violent, and insensitive dumbass!

[@AnimeRumpai]

I think I might be done with the eminence in shadow series for now, who knows, maybe a couple more videos to close it out, thanks for the comment again G

[@doc2green]

@@AnimeRumpai your welcome friend.

[@ashiy8310]

It’s interesting how these sisters personalities switch from the beginning of season to the end of season frustration and bitterness. I was hoping she would become more as a character perhaps some real growth but we shall see

[@VJ87G]

You all can hate her all you want, but she's just misunderstood, in her childhood. I think she deserve to be treated better. Don't you think so?

[@roqtest3070]

Never hated her, I think she is a good character and not a bad person at all. Frankly I feel a bit sad for her that she keeps getting broken down due to her own faults as well as events beyond her control. I hope she wont end up as a villain or completely insane, but rather redeems her self in the end. All we can do is wait and see

[@atheistyoda8915]

Well, I spoiled myself regarding what happens in the LN and apparently she isn't doing too well in volume 5, to say the least.

[@kalebdoesstuff5648]

I don’t see the hate for her in the slightest. I personally feel sorry for her, I don’t honestly care if she’s annoying or whatever.

[@inugalazerozone6156]

She's so blinded by her own pride. She wanted to put the blame to shadow and shadow garden mostly because just so she can kill shadow, thus proofing her growth according to her believe. Although shadow garden sometimes choose a rather "stylist" way of handling things, shadow garden clearly not her and her kingdom's true enemy.

[@Ares-hi2hw]

All thanks to Cid

[@inugalazerozone6156]

@@Ares-hi2hw note, not exactly spoiler warning but more like a reminder of Iris's situation in season 1. Her first trigger was actually Alpha and then Shadow Garden in general because it was a huge slap for her who thinks she's strong and she needs to be the "strongest" as her self worth, only for a secret organization comes out all of the sudden that way stronger than her, she felt helpless by then. Also her father is very passivist and she believes in order for her father to give her permission to do what she wanted ( go after Shadow Garden and Diablos cult ) is to prove her strength. My theory is her father is either bad / controlled because I doubt he's a true passivist, especially since we never see his face in season 1.

[@InstinctDynamite]

Iris voice acting was so well done top tier for me even better then voice acting of Cid in most dramatic way possible what do you think?

[@abelberhanu7231]

In the light novel vol. 6 the jaw that slays shadow project by the Loki faction of the cult is maybe Iris.

[@pride2184]

i like her, literally she dont like garden because they doing everything from the shadows and dont associates them as lawful or good organization. she did nothing wrong.

[@Thorkou]

she already had me with her Red hair, but i'll admit she needs a redemention Arc by joining SG and seeing that there actually trying to do good.

[@sammydray5919]

Wait... People actually hate her??? Wtf. Thats so stupid. I just finished the show and she ain't my favourite I definitely didn't hate her at all. I actually felt sorry for her by the end of the show because just how much Shadow and his group completely dismantled her life and beliefs. Like holy shit she gets her entire worldview demolished 😮

[@richardbarton5910]

It's not stupid it's how they feel you are free to like iris but other people have the right to hate her.

[@sammydray5919]

@@richardbarton5910 Fuck no. If people hate her for stupid reasons then Imma call it stupid. If they just dont like her then thats fair but if they give actual reasons then I am gonna scrutinize them reasons lol

[@richardbarton5910]

@@sammydray5919 oh then let me give list of reasons 1 when her sister tried to warn her of shadows power iris refused to believe her because she did not want to admit that there was someone more powerful then her 2 when she fought shadow she almost burned her own people alive just to kill one man all because her ego got hit 3 when shadow spared her life she had the gall to call him a coward despite knowing that he could blow her own kingdom away with just a flick of his finger 4 when she lost the battle she started throwing a tantrum just because she got defeated which destroyed her warriors pride she had left so no it's not stupid in fact the only thing stupid is your emotional outburst just because people hate her and I hate iris for those reasons.

[@sammydray5919]

@@richardbarton5910 Thank you for giving your reasons. Now I'll try to give reasons why I think the "hate" for her has been overblown a bit. She has been brought up as the most powerful warrior in the kingdom and throughout her childhood her entire life and her perception is being shaped by that. Alexia as good of a character she is, has been seen as severely lacking in terms of power. As much as Iris loves her sister exactly WHY would she put that much stock into her mere words of warning regarding power? And when she does see Shadow and his group's power because this random group had come out of nowhere, blowing nukes in the middle of the city regardless of lives lost, burning down school and killing a well respected ex warrior teacher (remember only shadow knows the truth about that whole debacle) so when this super powerful group shows up and doing whatever they want and answering to nobody of course she is gonna rattled. They go against everything she has ever been taught and endured throughout her life. And she does give shadow and his group a chance when entering that school by heeding her sister's words. She did want to give him a chance but what happened ? The school was burnt to the ground and a well respected teacher was killed and his daughter left traumatized and vengeful (yes we know the truth is different but for the characters Shadow is the villain here). The very same mission that killed the knights that willingly followed her, putting even more pressure on her. To her and the characters outside of his team, Shadow is a vile terrorist who is supremely powerful and does whatever he wants. He is basically a massive fuck you to that world and its established power structure and while its massively fun for us to watch, to those characters he is basically the biggest villain alive. Something which Shadow revels in. Combine that with her upbringing where all importance was given to her being the strongest. Her entire upbringing had been warped because she was to be the strongest in the country. To the point that she basically could not have any normal or healthy relationships at all. As much as she tried to be there for her sister, Alexia's own complex completely blinded her for years. Iris even when she tries to do good for her people is basically denied opportunity that because of political reasons. Her entire existence via her narrow minded upbringing by others was completely dependent on her being the strongest (and to be fair she is the strongest outside of shadow and crew so that pride isn't baseless) but then shadow and his crew came along and blew that to smithereens on top of performing one criminal act after another and giving no explanation or assurity whatsoever. All this and the mounting pressure basically had her entire reality crushing down is why she loses her shit by the end of the season. Her battle with Shadow at the end of the season here displays just how much the mounting pressure has finally broken her. Her actions become rash because her entire reality basically crumbled and she could do nothing about it. Its a sad decline for any person in that scenario. So while her actions keep becoming more irrational, I think the reasoning behind them and what led to all this is pretty well done. So dont think she deserves all the hate she gets.

[@richardbarton5910]

@@sammydray5919 regardless what you may say I still hate her and nothing you say will change my mind no matter what you will not change anyones mind by saying it's stupid so give it up already because once again hating her is not stupid I don't feel bad for her at all now agree to disagree or stop calling people's opinions stupid.

[@magnusaarsland9421]

In short, a type of berserker prinses/jogernout of a fither on the rontline and less of a leader?

[@awaitingabsolution4935]

Her arc remindes me of Arthas' arc from Warcraft: Frozen Throne. I mean the same base traits in personality that leads them down the wrong path. For me Arthas' story, up to his death in WoW: WotLK, is the best villain arc in mordern day lore.

[@ThatTanukiguy]

I didn't even know she was hated

[@AnimeRumpai]

She's hated by most of the fans from what I saw on the Internet

[@SG003]

She's similar to that red hair female knight from Overlord, I think her name was Remidios

[@ericaarcadia7178]

I would think she would become a villain with the help of The Cult and Sherry re-making what her foster father made her do to help Iris defeat/kill shadow. The truth will come out after this and Iris will get her redemption arc and her full support for Shadow Garden. Meanwhile Sherry will know the truth and get the closure she needs. Or Sherry will help create monsters that would ravage Midgar kingdom which also leads to both knowing the truth. Either way both will become a villain, but as important characters they will be saved by Shadow with The Garden as support

[@ragna6410]

Rather surprised. She is one of my favorites 😂

[@bioshogushin606]

I wouldn't say Iris is prideful and arrogant, more so that she has a heavy duty and responsibility thrust upon her at an early age. I will agree that she's stubborn. I feel like Iris gets a lot of hate simply because she isn't one of the MC's fan girls. Iris' response and reaction makes much more sense considering that the group of people who kidnapped her sister, infultrated the knights order and other parts of the govt. The most wanted guy in the kingdom, made a grand entrance by nuking a city and his threat level is deemed to be higher than that of the witch of calamity, which was considered the greatest threat in history till Shadow showed up. Her losing all sense or reason during the fight with Shadow wasn't because she wanted to be the strongest but because she had to be the strongest. If the strongest knight in the kingdom is incapable of even haulting a threat to the kingdom, then her intire existence as it was presented to her was meaningless. Unlike Beatrix who was fighting for the sake of fighting, Iris was fighting for the sake of her people and that loss broke her.

[@kacchanvotlenick6499]

No? It was how she ignored her sister's warning and her father's, making her look like a spoiled brat that doesn't listen. I'm fine with arrogance, but at vol 5 meh can't stomach this character, she really said to her sister, "I'm tired of your bullshit and our father's bullshit I don't give a fuck because it doesn't follow my beliefs." And doesn't question every action on why it should happen, which makes it worse because she only listens to her "Hubb"

[@ValtSoni7]

Delta is one of my favorites too dam. 😂

[@blazeoftherazgrizsquadron9306]

Honestly i hate Claire more than i hate Iris.. hell even "hate" is too strong a word for Iris. If i had to describe what i dont like about her is her inability to see the facts mostly regarding Shadow/Shadow Garden. Her pride getting in the way of of seeing what was effectively right in front of her. Shadow was the one who saved Alexia not only once but TWICE, Alpha beat Milia's mutated demon form, shadow garden saved the academy from the cult who stole shadow garden's name as well as other things. Honestly im hoping that some facts come to light about the cult and she wakes up to realize that she was the one causing more problems than she was fixing. Maybe even we might get ourselves some sort of redemption arc or episode or chapter. Or maybe even if Iris gets posessed almost totally and Shadow saves her too. Thatd be a cool moment.

[@spheroboom7299]

this is like the 2nd time i actually want a character dead in a manga or novel

[@kenyonzebeda9644]

What's the first time? And which character from what series?

[@spheroboom7299]

@@kenyonzebeda9644 the first one was Aria from sono mono nochi ni (LN) god even though its finished i am still hoping that the writer goes oh yeah extra part aria fucking dies of a stupid reason cause fuck her

[@PatrickMcgeeHD]

Iris was one of my favorite characters lol shes cute as F.

[@WhiteFox508]

The main reason I’m not too fond of her, is because in the manga she’s denying the existence of the cult, putting all the blame on shadow garden of the destruction of the city. She clearly completely despises Shadow, and I just think it’s because she lost to him in front of the world, and she’s labeled a swordsman genius so it must’ve hit her hard. At any rate she’s pretty well-written and I do want to see her possible join the cult, get corrupted and crumble under the pressure of everything ahaha

[@kellywilson137]

I didn't even know there was this much backstory to this random character lol.

[@cielwalker2777]

I just feel bad for the humiliatingly one sided beatdowns her opponents in the festival received.

[@billylion3073]

its probably why her power is represented by fire unlike other elements fire lives by consuming the host so the stronger the fire gets the faster it consumes the fuel shown by her decent into madness

[@freedomgeniuk9069]

At 9:19 it starts to talk about Iris's mental decline, when I heard this I started to see similarities between Iris and Azula from the last Airbender. These two characters have a very similar story ark along with their siblings. Zuko and Alexia have a similar character development in because they had someone to kind of guild them through the events of constant ridicule and humiliation (Zuko had Uncle Iro while Alexia had at her lowest Cid / Iris (when Iris complemented her swordsmanship after their duel) she realized they wert making fun of her but genuinely complementing her.), Iris and Azula didn't and their pride and arrogance was their down fall. Because of their success and finding nothing to hinder them, Iris and Azula began to develop a very pride fueled arrogance and they started to see themselves as the best so they stop trying to better their mentality because they thought they were the best and nothing was going to change this. Then one day they where shown the truth and their pride / arrogance told them that it couldn't ever happen, so we see them stay relatively stable but the doubt toward their pride starts to simmer and so when their pride is challenged and trampled on again they loose all rationality and stop seeing reality. Because of this disconnect between reality and perception they slowly fixate on the thing that trampled on their pride witch slowly leads to them going crazy loosing trust in others that don't see what they do even if the people are trying to help them including the people they were closest to. that distrust send them further into a spiral of obsessive hate distrust and allies, eventually making them either the worst enemies for a short time or them dying in an extremely horrible way, usually by a mistake or by the very people they loved in the first place. TL;DR: Iris and Azula have a very similar character development. Edit: I paused when I first heard him say emotional intelligence and hadn't finished what he was going to say. he even points out the similarity in the video . . . my bad I guess I should have just watched all of it instead.

[@moxgion]

🤎🤎🤎 great video

[@AnimeRumpai]

Thank you

[@john20red]

So the interesting thing is Iris IS actually amazing but the rest of the cast is just more amazing. Iris is the strongest dark knight if you exclude variables like the cults round table, the seven shades, Beatrix, and shadow himself (duh). It’s like mushoku tensei with Rudy, Rudy himself doesn’t think all that highly of his skills but if you look at it he’s fighting against the worlds strongest, Iris is very much in the same position just she was always praised before with her normal successes and due to her lack of maturity she let it go to her head.

[@cyrusol]

Iris doesn't have pride. It's ignorance.

[@WE-te3vp]

The fact that she doesn't even listen to her sister about how op shadow was.

[@hankaoc9532]

i do not even know she is hated

[@GarudoHS]

WTH??????? How people hate her? Only cos she si in opposite to Main character and she loosing? Thats so stupid.

[@Charlesrlj]

I'm gonna predict that iris she'll figure out shadow's identity Just to be so shocked and she's gonna ask him many questions And also when she realizes shadow gardens true Objectives she realizes that she was a puppet All along

[@Kelleo38]

Iris Midgar has better basic personalities than Alexia. Iris treated Cid with “respect”, unlike Alexia. Part of it could be is Cid is the younger brother of Claire whom Iris acquainted with. Before she lost to Mundane Mann/Shadow, Iris did not treat other people without respect. However, Iris’s defeat and humiliation from Shadow led Iris to become irrational and opinionated without a second thought. Having never lost before Mundane Mann/Shadow, Iris’s achievements and receiving praises from her kingdom’s people made her too proud. She is like a frog in a well (Asian proverb of one doesn’t about the world except his or her home area only). Furthermore, I wonder Iris performed well in academic areas other than swordsmanship because she seems to unintelligent and lack in common senses. Iris Midgar is similar to Amanogawa Kouki from Arifureta. Like Iris, Kouki did not faced any failures/defeats and realistic situations until he and his classmates teleported into Isekai, which Hajime criticized and Meld Loggins even apologized for being too soft on them (Meld Loggins intended Kouki and others to face the situations of killing bandits for them face more reality).

[@sighgaming3982]

Im thinking as both sisters Iris and Alexia investigate the cult and shadow garden Iris would lean into the cult in a quest for power to defeat shadow and Alexia would lean in more to shadow garden seeing how evil the cult is. In the end, Alexia would defeat Iris achieving her goal.

[@Eddman368]

She is very similar to 2 other characters from 2 other Isekais Kouki from Arifureta Remedios from Overlord and both became unhinged after taking a major L in are some of the most hated characters in their respective series

[@toxicalyss]

Iris is a greatly written character and I think one of the people who deserve the truth about Shadow being Cid. Lets also wait her reaction when Alexia joins Shadow Garden kakaka.

[@AdeptKing]

She doesn't seem that bad. She's not evil or stupid, she's just been thrust into a situation she doesn't know how to deal with. Sure I think she can be annoying with her obsession with defeating Shadow but I don't exactly blame her for feeling that way. Shadow is quite annoying too sometimes.

[@elisamuelorfilarosario4163]

So she is kind of, a more unhinged version of Bakugo?

[@caddycheon]

Then fans find out that she got Cid's 1st Child on Vol. 17 that will be hilarious.....(dont take this seriously)

[@AnimeRumpai]

😂

[@ImAtomic3804]

She might come down with possession and alpha will show up telling her that only shadow can heal her

[@oL_saGe]

Rimuru ate clayman right then why didn't he got any of clanyman skills or why isn't it mentioned in either the anime or the lightnovel.