Irish election results. Sinn Féin, Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael successful, but at what cost Ireland?

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

John Waters is an Irish thinker, writer and speaker. We discuss the aftermath of the Irish General Election of 2024. Another 5 years of coalition government, the lack of any sizeable and organised opposition, legacy media bias in promoting some candidates while ignoring others, Gerry "The Monk" Hutch, the growing numbers of independent candidates and the impact they may have at the next election. Follow the links below to connect with John Waters; johnwaters.substack.com/ x.com/johnwaters2024 --- Please consider subscribing to this channel if you haven't already done so, then hit the notification bell and share the content wherever you see fit. You can also follow me on Substack; substack.com/@norisknoreward And, if you feel led to do so, you can support the channel here; buymeacoffee.com/norisknoreward/

[@inisboru3181]

The far right label is a way of labelling someone a fascist. The problem is that fascism is a left wing ideology. The nazi party was also known as the national socialist part, socialism is a left ideology. Communism is international socialism, fascism is a national socialism. Giovanni Gentile was the founder of fascism and he is a lefty. I associate the right with conservative values. Could you ask John what conservative policies have either FF/FG introduced in the last 2 and more decades?? To my mind we have fascism by stealth. Government control of the public sector through regulations, a state police force, the pushing of social issues by the WEF ie. Abortion. Ireland does not have a conservative government, and not in a long time.

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

Great comment and in keeping with the world we live in today, good is evil, evil is good, men are women, women are men, etc. Sanity, reality, common sense and logical thought are completely inverted.

[@markpower9081]

@@inisboru3181 The Nazis were a "left-wing" party, appointed to government by a conservative President, in coalition with conservatives, backed by big business donors, supported by the police and the military, obsessed with an ancient mystical past, voted for by the same demographics who vote conservative (rural and lower middle-class), opposed by one left-wing party that maintained most of its support (SPD) and another who gained support during this time (KPD), all while locking up trade unionists. But yeah, left-wing.

[@markpower9081]

There are about 70 left-wing TDs in the Dail, 39 of whom are organised into a single party. There is an opposition, and if those 70 decide to develop a common platform, there would be a path to a change of government next time. I have no expectation that that will happen, but that's hardly FF and FG's fault. Or Irish voters for that matter.

[@amazingsacrifice-xs6lg]

@@NoRiskNoReward1984 National-Socialist (Nazi) was indeed far right party as opposed to the Communist Party. The word "socialist" was just a populist catchword - certainly they weren't very social towards Jews, people with disabilities, religious and ethnic minorities and non-Nordic people in general and they would put you in concentration camp if you opposed their policies or if you missed a rally or a high-five hitler :)

[@COM70]

Disgusted and heartbroken.

[@littlejoe8359]

Like returning to a restaurant and ordering the same meal that sickened you

[@amazingsacrifice-xs6lg]

Enjoy nights out in style! But vote for radicals and you'll see restaurants only in Hollywood movies :)

[@patrickoconnor6979]

I feel disgusted with the Irish people.where were all the patriots? Im deregistering .

[@markpower9081]

You're "disgusted" because people disagree with you? People who disagree with you are not "patriotic". Maybe reign your ego in.

[@liamo6889]

40% didn't vote cause they thought nothing would change. They are apathetic and irresponsible. People voted to keep their money and don't care about people beneath them. We have to keep voting because eventually the middle class will lose more and migrants will come to their town.

[@joekavanagh7171]

You didn't read the room right. The vast majority of Irish people are not racists. Loud does not always equal popular.

[@kavo1256]

​@@joekavanagh7171 the vast majority of Irish people non stop complaining about housing, hospitals, their kids leaving because of no future here.... But they refuse to see how allowing 100k migrants in per year is adding to these problems. Rte says it's not an issue and the masses believe it without question. 😊

[@brianmcgrane3046]

I just don't understand the Irish people 😢. The day of the election 15000 people are homeless and there building rent only apartments all over the place 😵‍💫

[@LeeKnight22]

People only vote for their own selves

[@markpower9081]

They weren't convince the alternatives would be better.

[@RinneShark]

Why why did people vote FF FG destroyers back in? That means more immigration, our own leaving and continuing crises in housing and health etc.

[@joekavanagh7171]

Because immigration is not as big an issue for most people as it clearly is for you.

[@MrKenny901]

Because 99% of people who complain about things online don't go out and vote, simple as that.

[@roryoneill9444]

Beats the massive emigration when I was in my 20s. My nieces went to the USA & Australia for a career break & got a job straight away when they came home.

[@josephmurphy1509]

What percentage of the people does FF and FG represent it can't be more than 20% of the Population??

[@brendandaly8164]

about 40% based on the 1st preference votes cast. Not voting equals agreement with the outcome so no point complaining or protesting after the fact if one didn't vote.

[@markpower9081]

If you don't vote, you don't count.

[@annbritton1714]

Obvious there are more sycophants than we know. All civil servants and NGOs are well satisfied.

[@michaelsmythe4031]

As an ex-pat in Australia, I have to say the result doesn't come as a big surprise. When you have voluntary voting, people who are disenchanted, stay home and don't vote-which is crazy. But the devoted followers and indoctrinated minions of the major parties are out in force to vote. Sad. My advice to the stay -at-homes is this. Use it or lose it. Democracy should not be taken for granted.

[@markpower9081]

People who don't agree with you are not indoctrinated, they are people who don't agree with you.

[@austinbourke9292]

Really just a waste of time and money .The same old gansters back in the driving seat inspite of what they did to the country over the last 5 years. The public will never learn

[@mariancasey4085]

Yes, older voters and rural voters

[@markpower9081]

It's not the voters job to "learn", it's your job to convince. No one is owed a vote.

[@joekavanagh7171]

Because they don't agree with you?

[@Vent330]

Indeed, turkeys voting for Xmas, sit back and watch things deteriorate even further now. More homeless, more migrants, lower wages, even longer waits for medical treatment, over crowded schools, people dying far earlier than they would normally have done. The loss of our culture, history and future 😢😢😢

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

Thats a depressingly accurate summary of where we're at.

[@joekavanagh7171]

What's wrong with more migrants? Are you going to do the menial, low-paid jobs?

[@moodyyuhoody]

Just got recommended this. I like mr waters

[@Rochas360]

Thanks for having the great truth teller John Waters on your show

[@Poppy456-l4c]

HARRIS, MARTIN DRUNK ON THEIR OWN POWER GRAB!!!!

[@comingupforeire7050]

What percentage of the people vote based on policy? 30 % maybe? Therein lies the mistake we keep making...

[@markpower9081]

In your opinion it's a mistake.

[@johnpurcell7525]

Only problem rural Ireland is Well off Prosperous people want to be even more well off and prosperous Economy is Booming who wants change

[@IrishMags100]

Your right so far John 🇮🇪☘️💚

[@dawnburke2756]

God help us all 😢 Our small beautiful Island distroyed , we ain't seen anything yet folks , we think it's bad now , give it another year it will be unrecognisable & alot worse . I'm devasted ,worried & shame on all those voting the same corrupt heads in . Good Greif ! I'm in my middle fifties & not one vote given to them all . I gave IFP my No 1 vote , had nobody else to vote for .... no other nationalists running but I tried . & know this country in serious trouble . Always admired John Waters . I actually gave him my No 1 when he was running for EU elections. All I can do now is pray 🙏 we are in deep trouble .

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

I spoke with Dr Gerry Waters last week on here, he ran with IFP, a man with 47 years experience in medicine and highly respected in his community, got zero publicity from media.

[@dawnburke2756]

Disgraceful , a great honest man / Doctor , I could see it here in South Kildare area , no posters no interviews , no nothing from MSM . Nothing fair about any of it , all candidates should be given the same time & interviews as those other shower of gansters in power again .

[@dawnburke2756]

Forgot to say , I'm delighted to say 3 candidates the usual heads are gone so some of us here in our town did something right ..... FF Greens & a useless Independent . Gone I look forward to seeing their offices in our town stripped . Pack their belongings & cry .

[@roryoneill9444]

The Irexit party, now the Irish Freedom Party, was started by a Loyalist under orders of the Uk Government to undermine Ireland.

[@bernardmolloy6241]

im not surprised either ……… sadly there are a substantial number of irish that are doing “ok”, are “happy with their lot”, “dont want to rock the boat” and just went in to vote, looked only at their own circumstance only and nothing else, so voted FF+FG only, for things to just stay the same ……………

[@brianmallon1810]

There are many good things about this electoral system, but I think it´s a shame that none of our votes are ´national´. I´m only able to vote for my electoral district. And our actual government posts like McEntee´s are ultimately determined by 9,997 votes in Meath. On the 5th count.

[@joekavanagh7171]

It's the same in every democratic country. You vote in your own constituency.

[@brianmallon1810]

@@joekavanagh7171 Not true. In the States people vote for their local congressmen but they also vote on a national ticket for President. A direct say in who leads the nation. Both systems have their advantages.

[@joekavanagh7171]

​@@brianmallon1810 I was referring to parliamentary elections. In Presidential elections the whole country gets to vote for the candidates. It's the same in Ireland as in the US and other democratic countries.

[@BrianBoru5523]

John Waters welcomes the 'Monk' side show therefore he welcomes Hutch taking votes from Steenson? What is happening in 2024! Bizarre!

[@denisbuckley9978]

Shocking the Monk was asked to run by the powers that ought not to be to stop Malachy getting a seat. So obvious.

[@markpower9081]

@@denisbuckley9978 Not one person in Dublin Central who wanted to vote for Steenson didn't vote for him. Voters are, by definition, adults.

[@joekavanagh7171]

​@@denisbuckley9978 can you prove that?

[@ccJoeMurphy]

It's a great pleasure to listen to you. The attraction to the Irish people needs to be re-based as the current configuration and tenor is not striking a note as you mentioned. I also believe we need to form a national alliance party that allows for all like-minded independents to join forces. It should not be difficult to sell to the people. 1. Culture. 2. Economics. 3. And law. As the old adage goes for every finger you point there's three pointing back. The the national movement needs to up its game It needs to have a think tank with knowledgeable and experienced people like yourself John et al. I would love to be part of that ☘️

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

Thanks for your listening in and your comment Joe. After every defeat there needs to be time spent back at the drawing board. As long as there are folk in the fight there is hope.

[@birds771]

I learned so much with this interview. Excellent. I'm shocked at the outcome of the election. It's the media. The people don't know what is surrounding them and that makes me sad. Good idea for making independent candidates more attractive.

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

The media are surely a huge influence on any outcomes. Thanks for listening and the kind words.

[@birds771]

@@NoRiskNoReward1984 I'm US expat in Australia. There will be some improvement in the US from the last election but I don't have a good feeling for any country as the takeover has been happening for too long and is too big. Realist or pessimist? And AU taken over by CCP. I loved working with many Irish backpackers here in IT. Ireland has a rich history from the beginning, a special island, and it breaks my heart to see it going down like this. I wonder if what Ireland needs is a rich Independent. Without lots of money it's hard to make your voice heard. There was a time in the US when the left were screaming in the background during speeches. That finally stopped. It is like it will take an army of the people to protect and support the Independents.

[@birds771]

@@NoRiskNoReward1984 I think they just deleted my good reply. Bummer

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

@@birds771 No, I see it. Thanks.

[@frankshinnick1586]

Turkeys voting for Christmas sums it up.

[@johnpurcell7525]

Drive round Ireland New houses Cars Full employment 2 or 3 holidays Christmas already arrived for these Turkeys

[@RebelofIreland]

@@johnpurcell7525 Glad to see you care so much about your fellow Irishmen and women. Greedy cunt.

[@LeeKnight22]

Thats our system politician's look after their own patch to the detriment of you're county neughbour😢

[@AnneRoe-kp1hs]

Keep going John, We need your voice.

[@martingriffin9503]

The whole thing is fixed. Drive on as before. No change never change. It has confirmed what I always believed FF/FG are the same. WEF agenda drive on.

[@neilokeeffe3248]

John is amazing. Imagine being the only awake person in a country about to be steamrolled into oblivion.

[@ThomasConneely-t8g]

john loved the interview, disgusted with the elections and i despair for Ireland and its future (downhill from here on out i fear)

[@kevincarroll6490]

Helens Mcs voter base comes from well-off people who have done well from E.U membership. And are very loyal and well-paid public sector workers they are only interested in preserving their privileges until that is put in jeopardy. They will do nothing. And still vote for the same people. Or we can give them a better alternative ?

[@MultiBarbara7]

it will always be the same

[@Iceageonmars]

My ancestors died fighting for an Ireland that no longer exists. The country has been given away in a welcome to the world to come and take it.

[@joekavanagh7171]

They died so that we could govern ourselves. We're doing just that.

[@joekavanagh7171]

They died so that we could govern ourselves. We're doing just that.

[@mariagreham9905]

Absolute insanity in every way shape and form.❤🇮🇪

[@tyler361t2]

think about it like this, how many new citizenships were offered. there you go.

[@noelmccarthy5157]

We need to go to that area and ask 100 people who they voted for, and then you will get the answer, even do it as a secret ballot were the people write the name of the person they voted for and put into a box 📦 that way they keep who they voted for to there self.

[@Bix21-z3f]

People are not voting strategically..in the pr system.

[@derekmurray1462]

The fact is , it’s still an easier option to switch on the six one Rte news and swallow the crap , people just don’t know enough about all the people and information that exists online

[@johnlong6010]

Anyone notice rte symbol on the election coverage, rainbow theme and 3 shapes , one hexagonal and two hexagonal pyramids .... 6 sides x 3 .... 🤔

[@MartinJoyce-xi6eh]

It seems to be appearing everywhere now,even on kids programs

[@adriennebyrne8237]

Yeah saw that too. It’s on the post office van too - creeps

[@carolinehegarty8049]

Yes this struck me immediately

[@ammulhare1644]

Looked it up - a cube (for the ballot box). Also the cube of Saturn, indicating that Freemasons/ occult societies control the country. Garda vehicles proudly displaying their squares - like police forces the world over. A controlled world.

[@heilong79]

It comes down to some people being too comfortable and not seeing the real issues that are happening around them and also the fact there is also no large center right/right wing party to vote for.

[@DeliaGibbons]

I have to question the integrity of the election for the first time ever

[@andrewmaze3479]

Great reporting

[@jeremybaumeister215]

Just discovered your channel. I'm an American interested in Irish politics since childhood. I'm wondering how the Irish people expect change when they voted almost the exact same government into power again. If I'm missing something, please let me know what. Regards from a new sub in the US.

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

@@jeremybaumeister215 Hi Jeremy, welcome. The problem is the majority of people who actually vote don’t want change. They are happy being governed hard. Think Stockholm Syndrome. There was low voter turnout, so apathy played its part, plus a somewhat fractured independent front. However, Ireland didn’t get into this mess overnight and it won’t get out overnight. The next General Election should be telling or heaven forbid, it will be yet another 5 years of the same. Time will tell.

[@jeremybaumeister215]

​@@NoRiskNoReward1984in the States, a 60% turnout would be ridiculously high. Low turnout probably has a lot to do with how we wound up with our President-elect. If you want change, you should probably vote for it...

[@mariancasey4085]

Most want change,it's the older and farmer voters don't want change it seems.

[@sukalanger]

@@mariancasey4085 Irish people are well off for the moment, majority don't want to rock the boat

[@Kevin-lf4xx]

Economy is thriving and so why rock the boat.

[@eamonnoneill1340]

I’m delighted at least that Sinn Fein didn’t get anywhere near government power

[@tonyharrishawk5596]

mi6 proud of u guys

[@Stargazer21112]

people have to vote otherwise they get the same and can’t complain.

[@garymack777]

Were we robbed is the question? Was there fraud?

[@panoramicLight]

Rigging. Rigging. Rigging.

[@BonRain8734]

Which political party in Ireland would be considered Conservative?

[@SapientSpaceApe]

Aontú?

[@BonRain8734]

@@SapientSpaceApe is that party rather new?

[@SapientSpaceApe]

@@BonRain8734 Yes. It was founded five years ago by a former Sinn Féin politician, who left his old party due to political differences on the issue of abortion.

[@joekavanagh7171]

FF, FG, Independent Ireland and Aontu

[@riversong656]

Just here from U.N. N.

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

You're welcome.

[@LeeKnight22]

Don't u get it ...everyone is me me and she's keeping her little patch free of migrants ....full stop

[@constack7707]

What are these people talking about

[@joekavanagh7171]

As you can see it's a far-right forum.

[@MartinJoyce-xi6eh]

The whole thing stinks

[@joekavanagh7171]

There is no evidence that the election was not above board.

[@johndonohoe6764]

Great video lads.

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

@@johndonohoe6764 Thanks John, glad you enjoyed it.

[@BarryHawk]

Blame the victim.

[@anything6398]

Is the any chance of starting a government spending stream lining department ? Mr Musk is starting one in the state's. I wonder if Mr Edward Hobbs would be interested here in Ireland?

[@patman142]

it seems all politics is local in Ireland, nod and a wink

[@johnlong6010]

The stats on the first round votes is interesting and there is a clear rise in support for independents but one or two areas with prominent independents that are way down or no shown support which is very suspicious.... Old egg head might be gone and all the greens along with him but watch where the go ....

[@johnpurcell7525]

Learn what Someone once said It's The Economy Stupid Irish Economy is Booming how you improve on that

[@kevincarroll6490]

We need to appoint someone to talk to Elon because we need cash and lots of it, maybe Eddie Hobs. Look at Reform.

[@joekavanagh7171]

You mean Reform who have 5 seats out of 650?

[@pavlaurbanova1708]

So keep the outside migrant and pampering them ??? No reason, why not care the citizens in first place ? Hu directions this ways ??? It's not normal keeping in hotels where all people has paid after the costs !!! Immigrants come and reaching hand for free ? Where the rest citizens ?

[@joekavanagh7171]

Why not look after everyone who lives here, national and non-national alike? It doesn't have to be either/or.

[@michealociardubhain7574]

Delusions

[@pauljosephbuggle3722]

These guys aren't really saying anything relatable either. So we'll only really only understand what's going on if we read what they write? Is that it?

[@finbarrmcgrath1686]

Thank Apple …..buy lots of iPhones and watches…..

[@roryoneill9444]

The Irish people voted for FF/FG. John Waters is a fool.

[@TropicalJungleIreland]

Rigged

[@arodstown]

I am so angry with this result its like watching the movie titanic and expecting a different result the architects of our downfall got in again. I will never vote again 😒

[@NoRiskNoReward1984]

Fully understand. However, if anything, it’s the ones who don’t/didn’t vote that would be instrumental if effecting change at the next GE. Voter apathy and despondency is no surprise, dare I say it’s an extra win for the established parties, it could secure their future at the next GE.

[@joekavanagh7171]

​@@NoRiskNoReward1984if those who didn't vote were that unhappy with the last government, they would have voted.

[@johnmccarthy9964]

"Everyone is living in a Pseudoreality" - a guy who spends all day in Facebook groups

[@ChaoYangMF]

The monk's brother should have run The Spunk.

[@andrewcooney2387]

Your arguments were destroyed by thoes who sided with Trump and putin types,it ended up as for Trump,putin, or agenst. There was no joining of the agenda and was not very well presented, you defeated yourselves.

[@johndevoy5792]

rubbish talk

[@tjfleming5563]

Waters is a yesterday man still spouting the same old negative narrative. The country is doing well - it has similar problems seen in other countries and these will take time to fix - you would think by this narrative that people didn't know what they were voting for and were somehow bewitched. The country of Waters and his friends would have us have is not wanted. thankfully he is old and will be gone soon. He didn't say Hi to Gemma in his comments.

[@gibbano101]

john 'the gowl bag' waters

[@michaeloconnor3138]

No risk no reward - servant of British loyalists.