Thats some real solid reasoning. I cant disagree. I think Uproar would have been a good name tho even tho that does imply a cat theme
@aidanarmstrong9254 жыл бұрын
Wicked Uproar
@scottnelson94 жыл бұрын
As long as the ride is enjoyable, who actually cares about the similarities? Last time I checked, Poland and Florida aren’t close geographically. Also, coasters have been straight up cloned all over the world for decades.
@danriddle22484 жыл бұрын
"they are both hybrids built by rocky mountain construction", damn that was deep I didn't think about that. You get a like my fella
@brayden71524 жыл бұрын
Makes sense. That’s probably why Zadra is longer. It’s an improvement over the older smaller layout.
@memecentral104 жыл бұрын
Sorry can’t like it has 69 likes
@TheCoasterScoop4 жыл бұрын
The minute you mentioned the fact that iron gwazi’s layout gave inspiration for zadra on ur podcast, I k ew this would be a video. Great job! 👍🏻
@Stephenp5034 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they went with a alligator theme because that's a cool train.
@TheCoasterConnorisseur4 жыл бұрын
no to be that guy but its a crocodile B)
@jackcunningham48204 жыл бұрын
Imagine what a tiger train would look like, the track colour would need to be different. It would probably look like cheeta hunt with wood supports
@Zrj194 жыл бұрын
When u said u reached the 4000 subscribers milestone, I was like, dude, this guy deserves way more
@ThemeParkMedia4 жыл бұрын
Coaster Genius Thank you so much!
@jacobjackson12123 жыл бұрын
Top tire rmc names: STEEL vengeance IRON gwazi Lower tier rmc names: TWISTED cyclone TWISTED collosus Coincidence? I THINK NOT
@easysteezy584 жыл бұрын
0:44 LOL the guy leaning forward for maximum aerodynamics and speed. LEGEND.
@CoasterHour4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic theory! This makes a lot of sense and it’s hard to believe that Iron Gwazi/Twisted Tiger could’ve been thought up of and worked on since 2015!
@mitchellries2564 жыл бұрын
As excited as I am this, I do think they missed out on an opportunity to keep this as a double tracked roller coaster. For one thing it would've been the first one built by RMC, they could've kept the lion/tiger theming and imagine how cool the trains could've looked if they were themed to both of those animals. Never the less, this was a clever theme to a reptile, the train looks spectacular and I can't wait for the health crisis to end so this coaster can start a new life.
@ThemeParkMedia4 жыл бұрын
Mitchell Ries I lowkey wish they kept it a dueling coaster to. It would be the best dueling coaster in the world, look beautiful, and give a long ride.
@rietauge50824 жыл бұрын
I waited the moment you say: "But that's just a theory, a COASTER theory !!"
@ThemeParkMedia4 жыл бұрын
Gautier OMG I HAD THAT IN THE SCRIPT BUT I CUT IT I SHOULD HAVE KEPT IT
@rietauge50824 жыл бұрын
@@ThemeParkMedia Don't worry, you'll do it next time ;) Also, great video again and congrats for the 4 000 subscribers 👍
@Poison_Eevee4 жыл бұрын
I believe the naming issue came up as Iron Gwazi was supposed to use the Twisted Tiger name, but then BG realized they cannot afford the RMC and other additions at the time. They then purchased some SRII's and scrambled to theme them. Tigris was most likely going to be the name of a kiddie ride loosely themed to (what would've been) Twisted Tiger, and Uproar would've been the name of an SRII or a flat ride from the original plan.
@liamgordon69994 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so great, I don’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers. Please keep up the good work
@droptrackthrills87734 жыл бұрын
Your videos are absolutely incredible. I am so surprised that you only have 4000 subscribers. You definitely deserve more.
@coasterdaddy71234 жыл бұрын
Very convincing and well thought out theory Zach! It is a bit difficult to believe this would've all been coincidence.
@XscreamThrills4 жыл бұрын
Steel Vengeance was a two year project (fall 2016 - spring 2018) for construction, but the plans were probably in motion a year or so before that. Regardless, it's possible that iron Gwazi was in development before Zadra. Nice video!
@adreamalways144 жыл бұрын
steel vengeance is the longest hybrid
@elliotbeaver82994 жыл бұрын
4000??? ONLY 4000 SUBS? You deserve so many more your vids are soooooo well made its crazy
@TheRyanmoose4 жыл бұрын
Also RMC said that SteVe was a 2 year project, as in 2016 and 2017 were needing for construction, planning started in 2015. Since Busch had plans for the Gwazi plot, it would be unlikely they worked with RMC until 2017. Zadra was announced in 2017, so Zadra was either planed at the same time or before.
@loganarnoldkicks43214 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a little funny when enthusiasts get all bent out of shape if a ride doesn’t have a good theme or name. 😂😂 Like who cares? You still get a great ride, you don’t need some inane theme to have it be a good ride
@garywinthrope12594 жыл бұрын
Because that's what Busch parks are, It's not Six Flags. Themeing and the integration with the animals in the park is what makes the Busch parks stand out from other parks besides its coaster lineup.
@FrontSeatMedia4 жыл бұрын
I like your Coaster Theory, bro! Can't wait to ride Iron Gwazi.
@coben.134 жыл бұрын
I have just found your channel and have watched nearly all you videos. Keep up the good work👍
@dontgoonline4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 4,000! 🥳
@AdventuresWithParker4 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me! I personally would've preferred one of the tiger-themed names for the coaster, but I do enjoy the crocodile theming. I can't wait to experience someday soon!
@cawilliams1884 жыл бұрын
Everybody forgets about Cobra's Curse in 2016. But this theory makes a lot of sense.
@ThemeParkMedia4 жыл бұрын
Christopher Williams When I was writing up the script I wanted to say in some way Iron Gwazi might have replaced Cobras Curse, but looking back at it now there’s no what it would have. I appreciate you still watching the vids! Throwback to What’s Next: SeaWorld Orlando
@cawilliams1884 жыл бұрын
@@ThemeParkMedia look forward to it.
@cawilliams1884 жыл бұрын
@@ThemeParkMedia I just wish Cobra's Curse would have been Time Traveler and Cheetah Hunt would have been Taron. Then we could have had one Ultimate lineup at one single park. But then again that wouldn't have catered to the demographics they were after at that time either.
@rollergoalie164 жыл бұрын
@@cawilliams188 I agree. Time Traveler crushes Cobra's Curse. I swear I try to give it another chance every time I visit BGT, but it is so underwhelming, I feel Cobra's Curse is trash. I'm not lying when I say 80% of my rides on CC end up with me facing backward and no spinning of the car whatsoever. It is easily my least favorite coaster at BGT and even though it's my home park and i'm a pass holder, I have no desire to ride it ever again.
@shane92454 жыл бұрын
rollergoalie16 Really? When I went there for a visit last season I found it was a very fun ride.
@akcsamiru4 жыл бұрын
Yooooo when you said iron gwazi was designed before zadra my mind blew up. Dude ur vids are so good and well paced, this is first video i watched on ur channel but just for this vid i will subscribe
@LucasNinoMusic4 жыл бұрын
I wish they used both sides. The twisted colossus of the east coast.
@coastersarelife4 жыл бұрын
Lucas Nino Iron Gwazi will probably be much better TwiCo
@rebelknpv5734 жыл бұрын
It doesn’t change my view or at least opinion in it, but I think you’ve got a good point and figured it out properly.
@braaandon57164 жыл бұрын
Hi! Nice video man, just wanted to say I actually helped with the AmusementInsiders recreation(read description in the video) and I am happy to say I am happy you used their footage! :)
@MadMagicianGaming4 жыл бұрын
So here's something interesting. It is said that Gwazi is a mythical creature that has the head of a tiger, but the body of a lion... But who said that? Busch did. See, everywhere I look I cannot find a single source to link this name to anything in history before Busch, nothing. Which makes sense because at IAAPA, when asked about the gator theme keeping the Gwazi name, the speaker admitted that Gwazi was just a name they made up, so they decided to just use it again. So that's one mystery solved. Gwazi seems to be nothing more than marketing using a fake story, and actually has nothing to do with lions or tigers
@TheCoasterConnorisseur4 жыл бұрын
Or they can just say that a Gwazi is a creature that can turn into anything it wants to and so it turned into a crocodile and they put some armour on it and boom ride theme
@DM-jb8fs4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos! From what I've heard, Untamed has got it's last track adjustment in 2016. And it opened in the summer of 2019. So maybe that's been the case for both coasters in this video. Who knows!
@jphillipam4 жыл бұрын
This is amazing and makes a crap ton of sense also am I the only one that misses gwazi I personally would have liked to see a dueling consent have one side be a crocodile and the other like a wildebeests and have them duel way more that t.c. Hey maybe that’s just me
@ThemeParkMedia4 жыл бұрын
airsong I was lucky enough to ride Gwazi and by watching the old footage... I would do anything to ride it again!
@Moothead24 жыл бұрын
@@ThemeParkMedia Gwazi was great and it never had a big queue. Last time I got to ride it before it was closed I must have gone on it 3-4 times in a row.
@stachebmiz16664 жыл бұрын
They also made cobras curse in 2016, that had money to make that and Tigris. I think Schilke needed to make a design that would be a hit to the public or GP. Zadra being across the Atlantic would make it hard for the GP to have even heard the name. Busch Gardens wanted an original ride however so he made this to resemble the hit Zadra in Energylandia and bring it to the US.
@kingoliver56634 жыл бұрын
I still think that they should have kept it as a dueling coaster with 2 different layouts that would interact with each other almost the whole time. It may not have been able to be as tall as it is now but imo, it could have been so much better. But in another note, it does seem like it may be the best hybrid out there.
@kingskew49504 жыл бұрын
Woah this makes me look at iron gwazi at another perspective.
@sdaniel91294 жыл бұрын
Iron Gwazi looks magnificant, but Untamed is only 82 miles away from my home ;-) I was going to ride Zadra at the end of may, but we will do this trip next year! Stay safe...
@TheRyanmoose4 жыл бұрын
This kinda makes sense, just the only problem is Busch Gardens had released plans for Gwazi's plot, these plans called for the ride to be completely demolished for a new shop, restaurant, and new rides. The theme is actually supposed to be the tiger won the battle against the lion, however was wounded, allowing the gator to attack, the ride os the gator attacking the tiger, hence the death roll.
@garywinthrope12594 жыл бұрын
Is there a source for this? Busch never said anything about Gwazi after closing day
@CoasterFan154 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I haven’t really enjoyed your more recent Coaster Theories. But this one.. this one is a BANGER.
@ThemeParkMedia4 жыл бұрын
CoasterFan15 want more of these?
@CoasterFan154 жыл бұрын
Theme Park Media no. Of course I do!
@coastercraziness4 жыл бұрын
You deserve way more subs. Keep up the great work!
@Sonic-gy7kq4 жыл бұрын
Sea world is my favorite park company... they give all their parks coasters and their parks still look amazing with good coasters and attractions. Something six flags and cedar fair can’t get both of
@Brandon-qd2lb4 жыл бұрын
I don’t think so. They were pretty busy with Cobras curse and Tigris at the time. They said they didn’t know what they wanted to do with the area just yet so they sat still and waited it out.
@Okaycoasters4 жыл бұрын
Great video! You also made some very nice points
@TheCoasterJosh4 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite video of yours so far! You definetly did your research and your editing skills are amazing! Good job on this one!
@BrycenIsGoated4 жыл бұрын
Iron Gwazi: **supposed to open in 2020** The cough cough virus: *No, I don't think you will.*
@randomporpoise4 жыл бұрын
RMC WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
@kingsislandfanboy4 жыл бұрын
Gatorade the ride
@ststevenson_214 жыл бұрын
THIS MAKES S E N S E!!!! How DOES THIS POSSIBLY MAKE SENSE!?!?!?!?!?
@akcsamiru4 жыл бұрын
In the animation of iron gwazi do you think the end slows down ay too much, i hope it isnt as slow as it looks
@jacobjackson12123 жыл бұрын
(When you realize gwazi has been closed just as long as mean streak)
@MaxThrills4 жыл бұрын
This is scaring me!! Why are you so smart? And also I respect the long description! That’s how you rank!
@PersonLabeledN0AH4 жыл бұрын
Clever. Great video! Love these coaster theories!!! 👍
@CrazyDiamnd764 жыл бұрын
I like the name Iron Gwazi, I find it very fitting as well as a great tribute for a fantastic Woodie, unless you had a hangover, that wasn't a good time to ride.
@naptownrandb4 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting till summer and looking forward to iron gwazi.
@highoctanegames4 жыл бұрын
I really want to ride Zadra and Iron Gwasi so much even though I've ridden Steel Vengeance. Well they're all the 3 RMC hybrid hypers. These 3 would easily be my top 3 even though Iron Gwasi and Zadra are similar
@Spud175934 жыл бұрын
Honestly I really wanted something like Twisted Tigers cause I really wanted a full 2 layout dueling RMC :(
@fairiminz4 жыл бұрын
When quarantine is over, I can’t wait to ride it
@delidanks4 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything. I also think that Iron Gwazi wanted something different and better than anything created before Steel Vengeance. When they saw the impactfulness, they jumped on the opportunity & being bankrupt didn’t help any either
@ehsbe10564 жыл бұрын
Now whenever I think of iron gwazi I always think that the crocodile is kinda the next evolution of the predator, like the lion and the tiger are dangerous but crocodiles are absolute apex predators, like the animal used almost shows the intensity and thrill of the rides
@CoasterSkyline4 жыл бұрын
I subscribed ur channel looks awesome
@ourkingdom.thrillpark93934 жыл бұрын
I think the only hole in your theory is Cobras Curse, which opened in 2016 and cost more then what Iron Gwazi probably cost. Cause if they didn’t have enough money for it in 2016 then why would they still add cobras curse.
@alexbrown92544 жыл бұрын
Not true as Zadra originally was going to have a wooden lift structure but it fell over during construction so they swapped it to a metal one.
@RayToffer4 жыл бұрын
This channel is going places. Trust
@adreamalways143 жыл бұрын
I get that Zadra and Iron Gwai are the tallest over Steel Vengeance but one feet in height and two big inversions may not bet or bet a little of Steel Vengeance but who know , didn't bet it with the longest roller coaster
@L3athaface4 жыл бұрын
That first inversion on gwazi goes completely around whereas Zadra stops in the middle and goes back the original direction.
@Tommyhawkins4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree how plausible it is that it was designed first or at least the same time with a long term vision of stylistically how they want their rides to go, but I'm really not convinced they couldn't afford it and that's the reason, BG parks were the main breadwinner for SEAS during the blackfish fallout and have always been solvent financially. Zadra is ground up and part of the Vekoma deal, and went up so quick even after the storm damage perhaps it didn't need many of US RMC crew on job and could sub contract from blueprints, maybe RMCs conversation order book was just full from 2016 until end of 2018 and they have limited number of workers experienced in conversation?, and Tigris wasn't a last minute thought....my understanding is they ordered three sky rocket 2s to get a deal and the first opened in 2015...just something to think about
@dianamiller54194 жыл бұрын
I agree! Also, can we discuss the similarities between Tigris and Tempesto (at BGW)? They are almost the same coaster, but Tempesto opened in 2015. Historically, there have been a lot of "sister coasters" between BGT and BGW. Sheikra and Griffen, Loch Ness and Python, etc. I think that Tigris was planned to be part of BGT for a while. Then with both Cobra's Curse and Tigris being added between 2016 and 2019 and there's a new coaster at both Seaworld Orlando (Icebreaker) and BGW opening this year, I doubt Iron Gwazi was put on hold because of funds.
@nicholasficorelliii19184 жыл бұрын
Any chance I can do a StreamYard interview with you and others that you collaborate with regarding the 2020 season (if there is ever one), how you came to love coasters, your channel, as well as your take on what will happen with the amusement park industry beyond 2020, including coaster construction....
@CONGTHEGUERILLA4 жыл бұрын
0:28 what coaster is that?
@bruhbruh34964 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of my favorite one of your vids
@hitrates4 жыл бұрын
Iron Gwazi was supposed to be released in 2020. I literally go to Busch Gardens Tampa more than any other
@vividvx4 жыл бұрын
But, with all the evidence he had to back up his theory it maybe was supposed to open in 2018. I go to the park a lot as well and claiming that you go to the park "more than any other" is rude.
@hitrates4 жыл бұрын
@@vividvx by "more than any other" I mean more than any other park. Not more than any other person
@jakewhitney42964 жыл бұрын
Tiger was the blue side, lion was yellow. It's probably been pointed out, but I was a rare fan of Gwazi.
@JBThrills4 жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍 love your channel
@nathanielthomas25024 жыл бұрын
Intamin is still my favorite manufacturer..they push it..2 things i realized about i305 lift hill..is how B&M & RMC took elements from..the lift hill spine that is part of the foundation which. B&M does on their gigas & RMC using Intamin's minimalist support scheme ..like on Gwazi, Goliath & Zandra
@carterray36964 жыл бұрын
They could have kept the gwazi theme like they could have used the lion side and one of the names they could have used they could have called it uproar cause lions roar
@elliott75684 жыл бұрын
Very well thought out, makes total sense.
@Sonderax4 жыл бұрын
Another clue. Iron Gwazi's reveal video looked terrible at Tigris' announcement. Thats some 2015 animation.
@rucray78704 жыл бұрын
Why would they not be able to use a name the already trademarked ?
@ThemeParkMedia4 жыл бұрын
R u Cray Usually when a park wants a certain theme they trademark several names at a time. For instance Cheetah Hunt was trademarked alongside Chetaka... the same for Fury 325 and Centurion. When they chose the Tigris name, they don’t want to use the other names because they reference a tiger and they don’t want another tiger theme attraction.
@samcrandall30944 жыл бұрын
I could see Uproar being some sort of Lion theme, but Iron Gwazi honestly seems to be a better fit.
@asboys9944 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Pantheon will be the best coaster in the world ?
@larry18194 жыл бұрын
Good lord please let this be open in July!
@maygild89844 жыл бұрын
I rode Tigris and it was rlly awesome, it was a short ride but 🤷🏻♀️
@thebluetarp4 жыл бұрын
Is Zadra in energylandia?
@adventuresbyalex65114 жыл бұрын
If they could afford cobras curse & Mako over at SeaWorld in 2016 then they could’ve afforded iron Gwazi
@BansheeEst4 жыл бұрын
The Crocodile head on Iron Gwazi's train looks similarly to Zadra's train & that animal looking head.
@MrCollerRoaster4 жыл бұрын
How are your videos so good? 🎢🎢🎢
@Joypyf4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video!! 👀
@switchback4454 жыл бұрын
This is so good and this makes so much sense!
@jever4524 жыл бұрын
This is not just a theory ITS A GAME THEORY
@highoctanegames4 жыл бұрын
Iron Gwasi and Zadra look awesome and fun, too bad I can't go there
@novai65544 жыл бұрын
Damn this channel is good
@ThemeParkHorizons4 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm in this video! 0:21 :)
@rishabmohandoss15534 жыл бұрын
Live ur videos hope u keep making more
@cancercentral99974 жыл бұрын
But hey, that's just a theory! A COASTER THEORY!
@joshkanner73004 жыл бұрын
Tell me what you want Maybe I was wrong Lately that's a lot Is this what you wanted? Tell me what you need Nothing comes for free Please just tell me what you wanted I want it less and less, I guess that This is why I left That's why I'm gone (Ooh-ooh) Forever long (Ooh-ooh) I'm gone They will always find you I'm gone (Ooh-ooh) Forever long (Ooh-ooh) I'm gone They will always find you I'm running out of options It happens way too often I started running into problems again It happens way too often for me to forget It's easier said than done Something's in my head I thought this was it How could I forget This is why I left? That's why I'm gone (Ooh-ooh) Forever long (Ooh-ooh) I'm gone They will always find you I'm gone (Ooh-ooh) Forever long (Ooh-ooh) I'm gone They will always find you Tell me what you want Maybe I was wrong Lately that's a lot Is this what you wanted? Tell me what you need Nothing comes for free Please just tell me what you wanted You wanted more But it was never enough, of course Stop acting selfish
@sloviscelery21354 жыл бұрын
I clicked onto this video expecting it to be kinda whack and bs, especially with the title. But I was surprised, entertaining video with a fun theory.
@thedude40634 жыл бұрын
Purple lion, orange tiger, and green crocodile
@RainbowDemon4 жыл бұрын
Change how we see sea world entertainment? Ill just watch the Black fish documentary again if I want that