Iron Solomon vs. Thesaurus

[@showerman13]

It's crazy how far battle rap has come. I remember watching this in my teenage days. I'm 31 now. Here you see iron Solomon splitting his 100$ winnings with thesaurus. Just before he splits the cash he says "I'm gonna split this money because we should be getting paid more, maybe like 1000$" fast forward 10-15 years, look how the bag has changed.

[@lilbeezyspc]

"All I know is that" is his go-to filler phrase... anyone who really freestyles understands that. All of the battle rappers from this era had a go-to phrase.

[@knoxpops]

On smack they used to touch their nose...especially serious Jones lol

[@justaspy5605]

Lol tantrum "Stfu because your rapping sucks" Always says "shut the fuck up" in battles Then um who else Dumbfoundead would always says "God damn" I don't agree that all the rappers had a go to phrase But a lot of them did I know some rappers try relying more on the gimmick and premeditated bars And don't need a catch phrase

[@lilbeezyspc]

@@justaspy5605 You're very right! Solomon used that Shrunken Kids line a few times too... It was just different back then!

[@lilbeezyspc]

@@justaspy5605 You're very right! Solomon used that Shrunken Kids line a few times too... It was just different back then!

[@justaspy5605]

Yeah he used that Line a few times also 5 mics in a gay orgy

[@WatZyAnAmE]

Why is this the best comedy battle ever written the spokesmodel for Coke bottles!! How do u say that with a straight face the porcupine line is god tier! Dude I would have to leave the battle after irons 1rst verse! LEGEND

[@jayjee135]

Honestly solomons material was better but these were freestyles back then, solomon came with obvious writtens and saurus was 100% freestyle. Saurus really showed why hes a mt rushmore candidate here. Not many can carry the same 3 syllable rhyme pattern for multiple bars off the top. Both always legends tho

[@maxiebon1]

I onky just noticed this aswell watching it now and couldn't believe thesaurus lost it even though back in the day I gave this to Solomon. I think it's safe to say that we as humans (even the judges) are still learning more about what raps really about everyday

[@FBIStatMajor]

my first rap battle i ever watched. i didnt think it was a real league but then i did more research and i fell in love with the medium.

[@danielnaranjo6321]

Sounds like thesauraus was actually freestyling but iron was spitting writtens

[@standarsh8606]

on some real shit, this was back in the "freestyle "days and Solomon wrote and recycled lines from previous battles, through in a couple of fresh bars in the beginning and called it a verse, thesaurus freestyled his shit and was the toughest opponent hes ever faced- he had him shook! thesaurus has hone on to become a champ and is sicker than ever, the outcome today would be quite different, respect to both

[@redeyes40oz]

All i know is that everytime i watch this im Stoned out my freakin mind maaan

[@justaspy5605]

This man chugging a 40 ounce

[@ecw2wwf2wwe]

100$ !? damn... shame they should have each been paid at least 1500$

[@TheOo0oO]

this was 8-9 years ago it wasnt that big back then

[@ecw2wwf2wwe]

yeah i know but still only 100$.. thats nothing

[@truman5838]

@@TheOo0oO They were making a lot more than $100 bucks for battles back then. This was at the peak of Off the head rap battles. It's all pre written now. These 2 were the top battle rappers at the time. This was always a much anticipated match up but it never officially happened in any tournaments. It was only $100 bucks because there's no sponsors. This is like Rocky and Tommy street fighting.

[@neffbase953]

I demand a rematch

[@maxiebon1]

I definately second that

[@LyricalMurderer1]

Remember this was the same night of spin the Mic when saurus battled 3 other people including a classic matchup with Illmaculate....

[@thequestion2324]

Damn iron looks young as hell.Think Pete's always looked 50

[@lakeeffectmusicable]

What the fuck? He only got paid 100 bucks for that shit? And Thesaurus didn't get shit? Dafuq? That's a classic battle for some dirt cheap money.

[@Roxas0wnzyou]

wtf he said "all i know is that" like 100 times lmao

[@FlawlessRevelation]

so much energy back in Jumpoff days

[@BasementKilling]

Actually he flew to NY because that is where Spin the Mic was. This was after the event I think

[@SuperTruthful]

Solomon got mad when he knew he was losing. LOL

[@notsophil]

@vebdaklu how can you telll if it was off the top or not?

[@TrillyNelson777]

" All I know is that " Thesaurus Should have dedicated his album to Iron soloman.

[@jboogz007]

"named himself thesaurus but needed a dictionary to spell it right" damm solomon killed it

[@AyoDreTech]

ok cool. Did you go to Summer Madness 2?

[@LyricalMurderer1]

Well....saurus was already there battling in spin the mic (along with Nocando, Illmac, Quest McCody, Whathisface etc)...and solomon is from NY....

[@great567]

I remember going to Jumpoff in London. I met Pro Green there

[@jjbiggs21]

thesaurus is way better now and so is iron solomon so if they battled again it would be historic

[@mailkoff]

I cant wait for new Iron Solomon or Pat Stay battles

[@al_exist]

He said... "named his self thesaurus but needed a dictionary to spell it right" Lmaoo hell no,i was done.

[@bentlydreys1686]

all i know is...why the fuck did i click on this shit

[@chopcheesekim]

😂😂

[@maxiebon1]

This was definately 1 of the best rap battles Ive ever seen, that what I used to think. I don't think that's changed either

[@wparch]

They have a similar style.. good battle!!..

[@vlonezay939]

Solomon

[@AyoDreTech]

okay thank you. So was this a $100 bet?

[@TRACKKINGS2010]

DAMN nice battle...i go with the video as it is

[@polopolo9878]

your bout ass new york....as a wooden cabin....lool i like that line

[@Facts_Machine.]

its crazy how close saurus freestyles stayed with solomons writtens

[@gmr7494]

Seeing this again more than a decade later, Thesaurus wasnt as bad as i remembered

[@CeeJayDaNUPE]

Fuck who won for a second tho.. more importantly, they only battled for 100 dollars!?

[@IsaiahTB]

It's great to see Solomon win every fight he's in.

[@SwannyBrasco]

Thesaurus was clearly freestylin' and had just finished battlin' other dudes, Solomon's was written except a rebuttal or two. Hard to beat a written with a freestyle.

[@MrPlam1]

yo iron Solomon goes harder just bc his freestyle sounds written it comes together like a song its hot

[@karthik_silkroads]

For real, what is he on?

[@luigibored]

DNA and Pat Stay are cool too. Peace to all the rhyme battlers.

[@ParisDillard09]

Solomon snapped on that boy!

[@dipsetcashmoney1]

great battle

[@feduntu]

solomon is probably the best rap battler ever

[@OshawaStateOfMind]

"we both lost to justice at scribble but atleast mine was debatable" thesaurus should have won.

[@forgottentilldeath]

I give that to Solomon, being a fan of both.

[@AscendingParadigm]

Thesaurus "All I know is that" counter: IIIII/ IIIII/

[@19brendon19]

Solomon is sick but why is he forever feeling up Thesaurus and when he got aggressive Solomon got defensive aha

[@macho11237]

Thesaurus should have snuffed him!

[@TheDrugtopia]

thesaurus when he freestyles he says "all i kno is that" alot

[@youngice6004]

Damn you're right. Respect

[@feduntu]

but did he and dfd had a beef?

[@damagedone56]

if they both battled nowadays that would be epic

[@TheJuice401]

@FinchAndWeston that makes sense.

[@dante3472]

@islandwarrior16 yea fam I feel you. I just hate how there are very few artists out there that can actually freestyle.

[@crazypapi224]

iron solomon is the best freestyler out there hes just to great

[@borntoball15x]

Ha Pat Stays writtens remind me of Solomans freestyles

[@33Spursfan]

Solomon is a battling BEAST!!! he can spit written or off the top of the dome spontaneous freestyles...he's clever or shit

[@musajili3716]

Word fam he did that a lot it wasn't just writtens

[@vebdaklu]

@egga31 when you go on a spree of like 15 very complex rhymes and they all make sense (and are even strong punchlines) - then sorry,they are written...He starts with a few flips,and then proceeds to writtens...TheSaurus had a few lines prepared,for sure,but was mostly off the top...

[@DeathrowRecords1995]

look at madd illzz freestyling on the sidewalk he never stopped and he was freestyling about ppl walking by him. perfect flow. doesnt mean its written it means hes good

[@JustJordon]

they should have a rematch

[@Diilemma]

c'mon dawg yeah you cant handle the breath?? thesaurus too funny

[@SRCREW714]

Damnn RIP Thesaurus you just got killed!!! SOLOMON IS A FUCKEN GOD!!

[@kcmatthews1591]

Rapping for a chance to win $100 damn

[@WallaceBea995]

I was thinking the same thing lol. I have no idea what that even means.

[@nomadfallout]

finally some mutual respect

[@Barbellprofessor]

It was a $100 dollar bet yes they each put up $50. Iron mentioned though, that they were each given 1k to start. And I really have to take a guess here, but I think jumpoff paid for Thesaurus' airfare.

[@MalikarVampire]

@SomeWriterGuy my first battle too, it all started here lol

[@VPrimeTimeV]

All battle rappers write their lines.

[@feduntu]

what top 10????

[@supajc757]

as someone who raps its funny cause almost everyone has a got to phrase they say while theyre thinkin to prevent stumblin...like dumbfoundead says "Got Dayum!!!" and the saurus says "all i know is that" and he was fuckin up bad cause he said all i know is that at least 15 times soooooooooo yeah got dayum lmao

[@Stigmonus]

+Juan Coleman Because he's actually freestyling. Solomon wrote. This was before writing was considered acceptable. That's why Thesarus opened up with that bit about "I know you went home to record those lines, so to say weather its written or not, I guess its borderline"

[@egga31]

Just because Iron Solomon did not freeze or anythig like that doesn't mean he has written rhymes. He uses his opponents own lines to use it against them. Maybe he is that good that people accuse him of using written !

[@ryattt]

yes, we know, he says that as he is coming up with something to blaze his opponent when hes freestyling, unlike solomon

[@AlbertaSteeze]

stop saying one is better than the other, theyre both dope ass rappers. and deserve MAAAAD respect.

[@kcmatthews1591]

Saying which ones better is the whole point of a battle tho

[@johnniebwalkin]

i went home to smoke crack and eat french toast

[@TCstorm08]

how have I never seen this battle wtf

[@InterstellarApple]

"all i know is" is that really all you know?

[@Jellybarbe]

@bahdahdoop this aint the real battlevid

[@boogie504]

We all know what Honey I shrunk the kids was about.. TIME. lol

[@Glitter359]

i never waatched this?

[@MarijuanaInMySoul420]

these are the type of battles i like, both mc's just breakin the mic. it could have gone either way

[@clp92]

@MrJoesph95 2st and 3st? rly?

[@kelster5002]

named himself thesaurus but needed a dictionary to spell it!

[@musajili3716]

Kept pressing him about his writtens Sourus is the truth 👏

[@burzy306]

both of these battle emcees are defeated by having to spit more than one verse.

[@homeboyZach]

Im 6 days in I still haven't found crystalg23841's comment yet

[@stuffandthangs3953]

Thesaurus between all i know is that and saying Solomons verses are rehearsed lol so was his.

[@AyoDreTech]

Wait, he flew to NY for a chance to win $100?

[@djaynee4055]

TheSaurus coming for you

[@SakeLoke35]

all i know is dat . . solomon was obviously flustered lmao cuz he was losin'

[@Ryker_One]

@egga31 Nah homie. Iron said it in an interview before. He had written rhymes, and he mixes freestyle rebuttals and shit inbetween the written rhymes.

[@Wutwut1n1]

I hate how they say how anticipated it is. Tonight's battle is not so anticipated and slightly publicized, with both rappers fairly famous, etc. (who the fuck cares)

[@parajabari]

@egga31 i kno right....for example loaded lux!!

[@thaJUGA97]

wtf are yall talking about, in 05 iron got to the final round and thesaurus only got to the 3rd, but neither one won the whole thing

[@FuegoNews]

You can tell thesaurus freestyles but Solomon reuses punchlines

[@cyrusjerome]

thesaurus was actually freestylin' hmmmmm

[@Glitter359]

this is so funny lol

[@islandwarrior16]

@dante3472 most freestyle rappers tend to mix written rhymes with freestyle. Average freestylers tend to have 80% of their rhymes written, 20% off the dome. Good freestylers like Iron Solomon have 50% to 80% of their rhymes freestyled. Some rappers just have theirs written.

[@guitarjunkee32]

no idea

[@Living693]

@egga31 that should be a compliment lol

[@TheJohnCooperShow]

its a shame iron disturbed thesaurus's flow in 2nd round, it made him drop into pure filler after that