DON'T Hurt Your Shoulders with Shoulder Presses

[@Mdaddarioe]

Mr. Ron Williams is a good man.

[@Ironchestmastervip]

Thanks my friend! God bless you, Ron

[@noahthegreat2356]

it is so refreshing to find a KZbin channel with great info and no cussing, I have a lot of respect for mr Williams, keep up the good work.

[@MagnumEDU]

Man. Let me tell you, you are awesome. Realness and sincerity shines through in your videos. Thank you for sharing your wisdom

[@ajwalker4416]

Learning so much, especially what _not_ to do. Thanks and keep up the good work.

[@resdalhogal3]

100% facts. Unfortunately I had to learn this Lesson the hard way

[@nickdiaz5519]

Ron I love all these videos thanks so much.... I wish I would have seen this 9 months back because this is how I hurt myself... And low weight lateral raises is what's helping me to build strength back... thanks again keep the videos coming

[@copernicus99]

Ron is RIGHT! Listen to this man. I have shoulder impingement due to shoulder presses.

[@andydale246]

These videos help me a lot in my training

[@gavinstonham6164]

These videos are great. I wish I'd seen them sooner as I messed my shoulders up from years of doing heavy shoulder presses. Will stick with lateral raises and tricep exercises that don't stress the shoulder joint from now on.

[@AlexBAlixir98]

I wish I'd seen this 6 months ago. I am rehabilitating from right shoulder injury. Your right it has greatly effected my gains. Once you have shoulder injury it takes a while for it to fully repair. Thanks for your video, clearly explaining the damage that happens to the shoulders when shoulder pressing. Maybe when you are younger you can get away. When you get late 40's you pay. I know.

[@hiteshpandey9587]

I am persuing carrier in cricket and this video literally saved my life as lot of shoulders work is used... Thanks.

[@crisrody852]

The shoulder press, if done properly (as he showed by the front) is an awesome move to build the upper chest. I like it more than the Incline Bench.

[@MrMindfullness]

Awesome Video. Love the way you patiently explain each thing. Kudos to your assistant. Keep it up. I already stopped shoulder press, leg extensions.

[@Ironchestmastervip]

You are the man!! God bless you, Ron

[@aldocipriotti6752]

Leg extensions are fantastic if performed correctly. . The whole shearing of the joints is overrated IMO. As long as the pad is low on the ankles and not high up, minimal shearing. For quad development, hard to beat properly executed extensions as the range of motion and length of joint travel is tremendous. The biomechanics of the movement are great. If you had the pad way to high the on the lower legs , you will get more of a horz force against the knee joint, then I would agree with the potential that the exercise can compromise that area. Good channel.

[@Nigel__]

Your videos always help me out. Thanks, legend.

[@dwrigh18]

yep, i made that mistake, gradually getting stronger and eventually tearing my labrum. been a year and a half of slow recovery, this is spot on.

[@norionrosa6623]

Zen Ron, thank you for educating our community, much love !

[@jamesjacob9632]

a side lateral but lying on your side on the ground or a flat bench, where your arm points up at the end of the rep has a better strength curve than standing laterals.

[@baker8674]

12 min of knowledge for a lifetime shoulder-health! Great video! Congratz from Brazil!

[@artyfloresify]

Good looking out, thank you Ron

[@barrygoldwasser5449]

This is a good guy. Follow him.

[@hendrikwijkstra8565]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! I understand the shoulder and the shoulder mobility much better

[@Warrior_warlock]

Excellent video Mr Williams. As someone with chronic inflammation of the shoulder joint due to bad movement i can attest to how big an impact this has not only on your sports but also daily life.

[@MrKraktor]

As always well said, you are really a knowledgeable guy mr. Williams I must admit. This is exactly what a lot of strong men/gymnasts promote not to do the shoulder press but HSPU or on machine rather than orthodox SP

[@shwwoooosshh9228]

This man can explain. Excellently. high EQ confirmed. thumbs up.

[@michaeltrout9590]

Hey Ron , can you please do a full chest workout that shows how to prevent shoulder injuries and still build muscle mass ? Thank you

[@Drmikebuyshomes]

Thank bro.. I have very week surgery and this was excellent advice! Go bless you! Mike P

[@feugo0]

Sir your videos are great and helpful , i was a boxer and now i am a powerlifter , i overtrain my shoulders easily and videos like this helped me a lot to correct my movement and range of motion , thanks a ton , please do informative videos like this more , Greetings from India

[@Wetsauna72]

coincidently my shoulders have been feeling a bit stiff over the last couple of weeks until I noticed this video. good educational vid.

[@milkman302]

more like this, Ron Coleman

[@kem6429]

Like the information provided in this video for safe shoulder workout. I was doing the wrong way. Thanks.

[@92yankee52]

Great video

[@raddgreat01]

I plan to stop shoulder press cause it hurts my shoulder everytime i press, its so tight the next day! and so i search on utube and im glad i saw this video. Now i understand why thanks to u bro, should i just do side raises, back and traps for my shoulder?

[@squatpuke]

Great stuff Ron, as usual. I cringe everytime I see peeps do behind the neck shoulder presses or lat pulls.. As for me, I typically do seated barbell, front only, chest up, bar down to chin only - and I know that pushes the danger zone as well!! Another facet on shoulder press that I think is bad, is bringing those elbows to far down below the shoulder joint, essentially bringing weight entirely down to the chest... I also prefer dumbell lateral raises, but the key, as you mentioned is weight. It doesn't take much to pump those shoulders and it's critical to keep elbows below shoulders...too much weight causes bad form and hurt shoulders. Appreciate you Ron!

[@BrooklynMoor]

Ok Ok let me start by saying that the video was informative well done because it is true that military presses and this is very important the Barbell at heavy weight behind your head done w/poor form is taxing on a Ball and Socket joint that is really just connected to scapula by the Rotator cuff which as you so well pointed out is delicate and can tear over time and with all that pressing benching heavy pulling and behind the head tricep extentions are rough on Rotater cuffs. Behind the head Lat pull downs can be a problem on shoulders as well as Upright rows with narrow grip brought up to the chin will put that shoulder in vulnerable position. I do Military press w/ Barbell and dumbell. I must follow strict form when doing standing Militarys with that a weightbelt should be worn because its more stressfull on back to me than the shoulders i do them once week or every other week alt barbell and dumbell. Over press with dumbell is a more natural movement especially with the supinated grip . I prefer standing on all my Presses but sitting for heavy weight is better on those vertebraes. Pressing when done correct gives me that table top shoulder look combining with the lateral raise which can be a bit of a test on internal strength are great 4 me. I agree lateral raise with dumbell heavy and moderated are the best why cuz it can be seen through the Tank Tops first. I would say upright rows wide grip to the low pecs done right may be better than a press.Oh and chess flys are just as worse on the shoulders especially if they are done 2 wide and to far back in stretch serious hampering rotater cuff and pec tendons.

[@Kris-82]

Great tips! I regret i didn't find your channel earlier

[@ramhasib9930]

Hi Mr Ron hes da man so informative . I have learned so so much by watching he's videos for that i thank god bless you

[@anbs1682]

Great video.

[@screambluemurder101]

IT might be because I'm really tired but im finding your voice really relaxing... 😳

[@TheJoeGetem]

Really good video sir, you just summed up my last 8 months of rehab great information thanks please keep it coming

[@hubersondorval6362]

This video was so educational!!! I always have a really hard time working out my shoulders do to pain now I see what and what not to do doting shoulder workouts. Thank you so much...I would like to know what are the best shoulder workouts that you would recommend to someone who is trying to build more shoulders?

[@wisemuwonge]

Very good man

[@dancarrison9354]

You know what? You're a great teacher! Thanks for the vid.

[@michaelmartin9270]

love this video this was very helpful not only to me b.u.t also my clients

[@Godzilla-hh8ip]

Love you Ron

[@andrecoelho2450]

Thanks Ron, your work is great!

[@themacblast3384]

Great video! This channel is awesome!!

[@BEARsigp229]

Good work Sir! Vids on point.

[@maranatha1115]

Awesome video my brother! God bless 🙏🏾

[@shecterinspector]

Mr. Williams, I am learning so much from your videos. You inspire me and keep me grounded with knowledge. I could use a opinion on a training method. I am hesitant to keep pursuing my passion with crossfit. The sport uses to man lifts that seem like they would produce long term joint damage. Would you stay away from those type of events or do you see it as a positive endurance sport ? Thank You Ron Willliams, God Bless.. Hebrews 12:11 ,Stephan Ray

[@MassGainingGuy]

Neutral grip press works perfect for my shoulders!

[@Spartan117A51]

I miss that lateral raise machine. used to have it at my first gym but had to switch gyms

[@icxcnika555]

i love ur channel and all, but i love the strict overhead barbell press

[@Ironchestmastervip]

I would only recommend that you push to the front and not directly to the side allowing the palms to face one another rather than in front of you -- just a suggestion from a friend and fellow lifter. God bless you!!

[@noyoutuberedstopinterrupti6466]

Right on the money

[@noahthegreat2356]

and God bless.

[@Ironchestmastervip]

God bless you too my friend and thanks for the comment! Ron Williams

[@maximemonnier5862]

As always quality content ! Very good video Ron keep on the good work !

[@dankfamous1]

I don't like doing over head shoulder presses I find them some what uncomfortable the lateral raises are amazing But cool ok elbow and wrist at shoulder height that prefect advice for me

[@phoenix1964]

thank you friend!

[@bbrockRailFan]

Its too bad we cant just tie the weight straight onto the elbow and leave the forearm and hand out of the equation. I know what you mean Ron. All the way up to my mid 30s I had been doing the horrid Behind the neck Press with a barbell. All of the sudden my shoulders starting hurting bad. I had to almost completely stop training them. Then I started to doing them to the front and walla the issue stopped. Now when I do my presses I consciously dont lock out at the top leaving a slight bend in my elbows and I only take the bar down to about chin level. At first I felt like I was half **sing it but I knew in my heart being in early 50s I needed to do something. I was going really heavy on side laters but now I think I am actually going back to more of a high angle rear delt movement with a lighter dumbell. I truly do try to analyse things. I can tell in my early 50s sometimes my ego gets ahead of me but I can also tell me analytic side of thinking is starting to tame that beast. Its hard mentally for a guy that was always pretty large to become more of a thinking mans bodybuilder. I enjoy your channel allot it makes me think. Keep up the good work.

[@Ironchestmastervip]

Good job. I am glad the pain in your shoulders have stopped from making that slight change! God bless you, Ron Williams

[@diewahrheit6092]

Thanks for your Knowledge from Tirol/Austria.

[@dominikk3321]

I agree

[@Chabataymane]

thanks

[@devinrivers5808]

Nice video Ron, I have shoulder issues myself and I use the hammer strength shoulder press, would equipment like hammer strength be easy on the shoulder joint?

[@timsmith3475]

WOW thanks again!

[@cesarpinto3840]

God advice unfortunately my right shoulder hurts a little using the lateral raises machine

[@Ironchestmastervip]

Praise the Lord Cesar, Sometimes the machines do not accommodate the different body types -- your arms may be long or short, the seat might not be suited for your structure, and the pivoting point on the machine may be off for your shoulder width. Exercise equipment is normally designed to fit the average person and not the entire population -- they do their best. There are some pieces of equipment that I can't use either. An alternative would be to use the dumbbells, so you can adapt them to your body. If it still causes pain or is extremely uncomfortable there may be some structural problems in the shoulder itself. I hope this helps Cesar -- God bless you. No matter what don't quit. Ron Williams

[@cesarpinto3840]

Ron Williams thank you so much for replying to my comment, and yes dumbells do the work..and NEVER quit... God bless your good. ..

[@Sithtiger]

Hi Ron, I have arthritis in my right shoulder. In fact, I have it several places got it in my teens, but it never bothered me until the last couple of years. Now you can actually see that the viscous fluid in between the ball and socket of the shoulder is worn out. When I do a simple barbell curl, it appears my right shoulder is slightly uneven and looks like it's dipping down. It is, but down and in because everything is worn away. I was shown in an X-ray that it's basically bone on bone. They told me that I'll likely have to get it replaced. I asked when will I have to do that, they said when the pain becomes too great. Well, it's getting worse and I've started to lift the way you suggest and it's helping, but I've started noticing that I'm starting to lose strength. I notice is especially with lateral raises. I'd say there's about a 5-pound difference in strength. My question is can prescription drugs make it worse. Unfortunately, I have to take Subutex and Xanax for Bi-Polar and Panic Disorder. I've stopped before but had to go back, not because I couldn't get through withdrawal, I went 3 months off them. My disorders just got worse and I wasn't craving them. I hate these medications. Nothing else works. Anyway, what can I do to slow the deterioration of the bone, or how can I keep from getting that shoulder replacement, or can I? Lastly, if I get shoulder replacement, how long will it take to heal and how long until I get my strength back and will I be able to lift as much as I did prior to the slow injury? TL;DR: I have arthritis in my right shoulder pretty bad. Will eventually have to get it replaced. I believe the meds I'm taking Subutex and Xanax makes it worse, or at least the pain worse, but I can't stop them. What can I do to slow down deterioration and if I have to get shoulder replacement, how long will it take to heal and how long will it take to get my muscle back. Finally, will I be able to lift like I used to with the synthetic joint? Thanks, Ron!

[@Ironchestmastervip]

Praise the Lord Sithtiger, I am certain that you are dealing with inflammation throughout your body. A couple of things that will help that is making sure you have plenty of good water and an anti-inflammatory nutrition plan. I am sorry to hear about the arthritis that you are dealing with; I am sure that it is painful, but hopefully you will learn some things through this process and pass it on to others who are dealing with the same issue. Concerning the medications, because I am not a doctor I want to be very careful responding to the medical portion, but I do know that there are medications that increase inflammation in the body. By the way, wheat germ oil will also help lubricate the joints and aid in decreasing some of the inflammation. God bless you in your endeavors and hang in there, Ron Willliams

[@GRYDE2000]

good info!

[@thus6762]

lateral raises dont work the anterior delt however

[@jezzdogg6857]

you sir have earned a sub

[@proud2bkiwijohn]

Thank you

[@GRYDE2000]

Stay tuned for the concert at 10:20

[@jorgem50]

I got better results with high rep shoulder presses and tons of side and front laterals rather than heavy presses

[@Blodia1990]

Bingo. I stop at 75 lbs dumbbell presses and tons of lateral. Best shoulder development I've ever achieved

[@vlad_IT_87]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge! So I should not do any compound movement for the shoulders?

[@rwdchannel2901]

This video isn't even showing up on KZbin search anymore. I typed in "Shoulder press bad for joints" and it wasn't even on the list. KZbin is getting a lot worse.

[@rpradhan500]

Ron please do search on deadlifts....My ortho asked not to do deadlifts...it affects spine and hip joints severely...

[@williamriker2207]

Good stuff thanks

[@AntiqueWhitePanties]

can you do a version without machines... please

[@gnicevids]

thank u so much for sharing

[@bendodd2405]

what i dont get is if the scapular rotates upward along with the shoulder press as it should be how does the socket and acromium cause impingement from overhead pressing or force it out of the socket now if your shoulder blade doesnt rotate upward along with your arm bone and head in the socket, it will definitely hit the roof of the shoulder joint but then is it not a problem with your shoulder blade roatation and not the actual excercise

[@livefitpersonaltraining691]

nice video, I am a trainer and incorporate external and internal rotation for warm up. Would dumbbell shoulder presses be better than a fixed bar or machine and how would you perform, dumbbells held with palms forward or facing the head?

[@HoliCrapCaek]

Ron can you show us an example of a correct barbell press? And dumbell?

[@adriankliros694]

Are front dumbell raises safe Ron?

[@joaomanaia]

Mr. Ron Williams, what do u think of crossover? Is it bad for the shoulders? I used to feel some crunching in my shoulder joint after doing crossover so I stopped doing it. I would like to hear your professional opinion on the matter, if u please. Thank you and keep up the good work

[@noyoutuberedstopinterrupti6466]

GOD BLESS You MR. RON WILLIAMS 10000 TIMES thank you for what you do.👏👏👏

[@guilhermewaldelm9560]

can i cut shoulder press all together and only do lateral and front raises?

[@Jay-son.]

Interesting that you made this video because I've always used the neutral grip on that shoulder press machine; it feels like my shoulders are in a more natural position but when I try to use the other grip I feel like I'm gonna snap my shit up lol. Thanks for the video Ron!

[@KunchangLeeMusic]

Wish I saw this earlier I’m rehabbing my shoulder after injuring it doing shoulder presses

[@tigerboy4516]

excellent

[@MONyxOthefgtxD]

What took you so long ron

[@LivinFakie]

Ron, mind giving me your opinion on one thing? I have heard that when you pull your scapula back, activating your lower lats and bringing your mid back together, you clear the risk of scraping the shoulder joint I believe. Maybe this is different than the issue you're addressing, I can vouch that they feel good since I involved those actions before doing the press.

[@wellok7860]

thx for the great video Mr Ron Williams, quick question, what do u think of over head press? its one of the most popular exercise in most gyms, crossfit and even Olympics(part of weight lifting)

[@Mrrmegaton]

Could you please tell us more about the iron chest master?

[@Ironchestmastervip]

Go to ironchestmaster.com or militaryfitnesssystem.com these websites will give you a lot of information concerning the machine. Because you are one of my KZbin subscribers I will personally give you a 20% discount if you choose to use the Iron Chest Master, send a reminder to my customer service that I said you would receive 20% off ([e-mail]). God bless you, your friend Ron Williams

[@juslostone]

so does this make the shouler press bad?

[@jyseninthecloud]

Very informative. May I ask, what would you recommend to someone who only does Bodyweight exercises? With your explanation handstand pushups would certainly be out.

[@Christian-lk2zq]

jyseninthecloud pike rotation push ups are nice

[@Ironchestmastervip]

We are going to do some exercises from home here soon on this channel. Hope that will help. God bless you, Ron Williams

[@jyseninthecloud]

Ron Williams sweet! I look forward to it!

[@jyseninthecloud]

Pastor Gains thank you sir!

[@LonnellJLee]

What can you do for shoulder pain?

[@badboykhalsa]

hi Ron could show this with free weights please

[@SayWhatSuca]

The shoulder press should be conducted in the saggital plane and not in the frontal. I personally don't over head press due to mobility and back issue's. At least not overhead on a 90° bench. I'll use a 70° angle and supplement with front raises. But for the most part, I stay away from them. And one should also take into consideration the acromion process. Some are more flat, curved and hooked. So from a purely biomechanical standpoint, some people are genetically more prone to shoulder impingement simply due to their unique anatomical makeup. And of course posture is also an issue. If one is a little on the kyphotic side, than shoulder pressing will be a nightmare.

[@POCCITY15]

Ron, if I lean my seat back a little on the shoulder press with the arms out is it still considered a shoulder?

[@abdurashidmuhamedov5179]

Helpful! Thanks for video! I think u wanna cut the video at the end from 8:58 to 12:05 it's empty and dark.

[@RobertJohnsson]

Its because for the added revenue of having longer videos

[@chrisg4433]

how to target the side delts.....I feel the front delts are getting the workout

[@RahulKumar-dy8eq]

Ron Sir My question is how can we do workout/training if we do not have access to the gym, if we do not have gym equipment's, if we are travelling & if we do not like to workout in the gym because of various reasons.

[@Ironchestmastervip]

Praise the Lord Rahul, I will be doing some home exercises and demonstrations in the near future. When we start let me know what you think of them. I look forward to hearing from you. God bless you man, Ron Williams

[@RahulKumar-dy8eq]

Thanks very much for your reply sir. Again training without gym means Bodyweight Exercises. So can we make gym like gains or get lean & ripped by doing all kind of Bodyweight & Pullup Bar exercises.