Manticore 101 with the Ironhearted Gog - customising the settings

[@TheDarkKnightDetectorist]

thanks for sharing. as a new user to the manticore, these type of videos are very handy to fall back on 👍

[@What1see]

I am having a lot of success out here in the United States with this set up I really appreciate it. Thank you.

[@stevelove16]

Thanks so much for this video, I'm always open to suggestions and have switched my programmes to the ones you have suggested, I've a dig on Saturday and I'm keeping everything crossed!

[@jamesspark2465]

Bought the Manticore Saturday and plummed your setting in on Sunday and have found allsorts. Really brings the machine to life. Id like to see more videos for different types of land and how to tweak it. I was on stubble the other day and felt these settings were amazing. Tha ks Gogs and all the best

[@leelewis6550]

Thanks Gordon, tried your setting today. Bloody brilliant 9 coins 1 x hammered 1 x silver bullhead and 7 copper coins and loads of buttons..cheers mate.😊

[@IronheartedGog]

Nice work!

[@jeffwd32]

Many thanks Gordon, great to see someone else’s view and ideas/preferences on the Machine.

[@jefflutz-ni6ct]

Thanks for clarifying some thoughts on the filter! Good to see you swinging the Manticore!

[@peterevans8194]

Thanks for the video Gordon... Debating switching from my 800, but at the moment the complexity of the Manticore seems a bit daunting, so your videos are very helpful...

[@ramonsotolires8571]

He usado tu programación de campo y es increíble, ahora necesito una para playa. Mil gracias.

[@sailorford1]

Really helped Gordon. Took a few stop & rewinds to get the hang of which buttons were controlling what when editing😂 keep up the good work

[@jomon723]

Nice lesson, Should have mine her soon and I will set it up with this. I'm like you, need that threshold like the old days or I will be waving my digger every few minutes down toward the coil Thanks again and thanks to Minelab for the Vet discount 👍🏻

[@140pro]

A great presentation and very informative.Thanks for posting👍

[@omnitron]

Very well showed how to understand it and set it. Thank you mate.

[@davidhingley8437]

Great information and good explanation of settings to use.

[@petercollins2828]

Thank you for this input Gordon

[@sinancan7809]

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[@shanea2045]

Gordon thanks for this video I’m going to try your settings on a new field today, thanks again mate

[@bobbyshort1222]

Great video! Like the detail of the settings. Well done. Saved this video

[@petercollins2828]

First day out with your settings, and Boom 💥 A Gold ring Thank you Gordon. Don’t be afraid to use these settings on the Beach

[@KallistaConsulting]

Excellent stepthrough. Thanks for that.

[@keithknight1994]

Well structured and clear set up advice and instruction as always.

[@chrisleigh777]

Awsome thank you for the help with the settings :) I'm new to the manticore so it will help 😊

[@IronheartedGog]

Happy to help!

[@MrMartybabe]

Very good video, can’t wait to try it out. Had to keep rewinding as your button pressing was too quick for me to follow as a novice with the manticore. Liked and subscribed 👍

[@RommelBillanes]

LOVELY VIDEO... IT HELPED ME A LOT. THANK YOU!!!

[@detectingdaft]

Got the equinox 800. Tempted by the Manticore. Best wishes out there.

[@ชนิศาใจสุข]

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[@barss8790]

Отличное видео! Ждём продолжения.

[@geoffswansea]

brilliant been waiting for you to do a programme for the manticore for ages as far as i'm concerned this is the tadpole mk2

[@timbelltimbo8212]

Thank you really useful, out of interest do you use the tracking ground balance at all ?

[@ShauneinKent]

Will try your settings as not long had the manticore but do like the machine if also got the deus 2 big thanks shaune in kent 👍

[@hubertdechmann4140]

Thank you very mutch, Regards from Luxemburg Hubert

[@nevillebrough9896]

Great Video Gordon 👍

[@oldplucker1]

Very good lesson👍

[@barss8790]

Hello! Love your videos. Thank you for your work and the work done. I want to hear your opinion. In my opinion, the best program in manticore is all terrain. What do you think about this

[@IronheartedGog]

All Terrain General is certainly the best all round program. On pasture I switch to All Terrain High Conductors because it transmits a lower frequency MultiIQ.

[@Hunkydory54]

will try it n thankyou...good vid

[@Thecointamer]

Brilliant tutorial thanks

[@MetalDetectingWithBart]

Hello Gordon - really enjoy your videos as I learn the most and you get to the point quickly. At the very end of this video you describe a pasture scenario as I have with long grass and deep targets. You said something about raising the iron bias (I have quite polluted soil by an old manor and pasture field on a hill) - what would you reccomend I raise it to? Thank you!

[@IronheartedGog]

Raise as in a lower number (upper iron bias, target trace screen), which will increase dug good targets and iron. High numbers = less iron falsing, low numbers = more iron and good targets masked by iron. Hope that makes sense.

[@Detectingthepastuk]

Cheers Gordon 👌

[@karlswain6718]

Hi Gordon thank you for your input very interesting information 👍 incidentally what size coil are you using,?

[@IronheartedGog]

I use the M11 as my main coil, the M15 on pasture. The M8 is my go to coil for river hunting. There’s another coil coming soon that is great for Roman sites that have loads of small iron targets… more soon once released.

[@brettellis1837]

Wow Andwow cheers mate.

[@ramonsotolires8571]

Saludos desde España Dónde puedo ver video programación para playa?? Gracias.

[@skyhookspirits]

Question: What settings have you found that work best for beach detecting?

[@MrMYVOICE8]

Great Vid thank you.

[@jamkpa]

Good stuff.

[@davidparkinson4895]

I managed to get my head around the video 😂 I’ve now turned it of should I have been able to save that setting or will it be set when I turn it back on at the field Reg Dave

[@IronheartedGog]

Setting are automatically saved at switch off

[@detectareco2901]

Can yo make a configuration for finding gold jewerly? I will love to test!!!!

[@meyou3064]

Hi Graham great videos as usual can we expect minelab to release a module in the near future as I like to use my dual volume headphones, hate being tethered thx

[@IronheartedGog]

Yes I’m sure there will be one in the pipeline.

[@AnthonyGill-n8k]

Been using the Manticore for six months now and still learning. Appreciate your tutorials and advice. Have been working with a similar set up however, based in High Conductivity (which does run the batteries down). Will try your setup this week and offer feedback. One point, regards RICH profile. It appears to quieten the responses down quite considerably and good targets don't sound off so loud. Is there anything I can adjust to improve this?

[@AnthonyGill-n8k]

Spent four hours on exhausted medieaval field today. Its very irony so used 5 stabiliser. Sensitivity upto 27 ( never been that high) reactivity 6 and the noise cancel multi press. I have to say i am very impressed and this set up will be my preffered one. But as you state a few tweaks will be necessary dependng upon site. So i found a hammered farthing, cut quarter, small medieaval pendant and several other bits and pieces. Good signals stood out. Thanks for offering a brilliant set up for the Manticore😂

[@IronheartedGog]

Rich gives you so much more target info like shape and depth. I must admit I don’t use the ML105s, and wire them to the machine. Hopefully there will be a module released soon, that will improve choice. If Rich doesn’t work for you, choose a profile that does, it’s a very versatile detector.

[@AnthonyGill-n8k]

@@IronheartedGog thanks for that. Appreciate a link to the headphones and wiring in

[@barss8790]

Welcome! In this video, you promised to share some other settings for Manticore. Should we expect your advice on the new settings?

[@meyou3064]

Hi Graham love your videos and have watched them since owning the Nox which is now just over 4 years, trust you more than other You Tubers, would you consider giving me your opinion on the Manticore compared to the Nox would you recommend the upgrade ? The Nox has been absolutely brilliant I have found so many awe inspiring finds, Stater, 1/4 Stater etc etc. Wont pull the trigger until I hear from you THX again

[@IronheartedGog]

The Equinox is and will always be a great machine. I’ve made the switch to the Manticore and would find it hard to go back. There is so much more you can do to the Manticore to make it sound and perform better. The only problem I’m seeing is when users are pushing the settings too far, this is hard to do on the Equinox. If you’re happy with the Nox, getting great results and are confident in its abilities, stick with it. If you are searching long term pasture, then the Manticore is going to get extra depth and performance… you probably won’t see as much difference when detecting ploughed soils.

[@meyou3064]

@IronheartedGog Thx Graham appreciate the reply. Decisions, decisions lol.

[@barss8790]

Hello! Have you tried a test with Manticore? The manticore does not see the hoard of coins, she throws them into the ferrous metals

[@delterwing49]

Hi Gordon , I have bought my Manticore some protective stem covers , and have put the wire in the sleeve running up the back of the stem , this looks a lot tidier. Do you know if this will make a difference not wrapped arround the stem , Thanks Tony

[@IronheartedGog]

As long as the cable doesn’t move, it shouldn’t be detected and give false signals.

[@anthonybentley9430]

Steel is a carbon alloy of iron yes so this may sound stupid but so what type of Vdi would we be looking at steel over iron if we all hate getting that iron so much, although it is a major factor in detecting an old sites , what I am trying to say if we all blanked the iron out then how did others find swords and such before us or were they just lucky and thought it was a bit of scrap.

[@petehusky4934]

brilliant - what sensitivity do you generally run at? Say for example on an iron infested roman site? I've tried to experiment with both lower (circa 18) and also nearly 30 and tend to find the higher makes the faint signals easier to pick out....but i'm still unsure! Brill vid

[@IronheartedGog]

I try to run the Manticore as quiet as possible. Using the tools available you should be able to quieten all non metal noise. I usually start at sensitivity 25, then noise cancel, hold the detector off the ground and adjust the Manticore’s sensitivity so there’s no emi chatter.. it should become totally stable. This is my maximum possible sensitivity for the site I’m searching, on the day. I then use recovery rate, stabiliser and possibly ground balance to control non metal falsing from hot-rocks, ceramics and mineralisation. Typically I’m able to run sensitivity at around 30 using this technique.

[@seanmcgrath9167]

is neal (slow and low) still about?

[@skyhookspirits]

The Manticore has so many tweaking settings. Thanks for clarifying how you've found the best for your type ground. It would be a bit more helpful if you could show the editing steps more clearly in menu settings like the two region all tones setup.

[@karlswain6718]

Very interesting will those settings be saved when you switch off or not please

[@IronheartedGog]

Yes they will.

[@stevedharmer4387]

Hi Gordon, I have been using one for a while now and doing really well, it's way better than the Nox 800 I had before, a question I always use it in all metal with the horse shoe on...now does adjusting down the ferrous limits like you have here have any effect on me detecting with the horse shoe on? Cheers Steve

[@IronheartedGog]

When you set the ferrous volume full, I’m guessing you’re hearing iron falsing better on targets like sheared nuts and horseshoes, targets that false positive on most detectors. I tend to turn down the ferrous volume to 4, and to 3 or 2 if I’m mainly experiencing small nails only. This still allows me to hear falsing from large iron. It’s down to you though and how you like the sound and volume of the junk targets, but I would try dropping the ferrous volume if you’re not getting large iron falsing, especially when you’re hearing multi iron targets on every swing. It can make the good targets stand out more. I’ve found the secret of getting the best performance out of the Manticore, is to keep all unwanted noise to a minimum, you lose finds and depth in noise. The sensitivity, recovery rate, ferrous limits, ferrous tones (volume and stabiliser) and ground balance are the tools you have to quieten the audio. After silencing all the 'detector at rest noise' I want to hear just the ferrous and non-ferrous targets… but I don’t want the non-ferrous stuff shouting at me!

[@IronheartedGog]

Sorry just reread you question, you weren’t asking about ferrous volume. Ferrous limits setting will change the audio response when searching in all metal. It will change what is heard as ferrous.

[@stevedharmer4387]

@@IronheartedGog thanks Gordon, I've generally taken your advice on the Manticore as you seem to be one of the few that knows what he's talking about when it comes to UK sites... many thanks for your help, as you say it's a game changer especially using the silencer! I only work ancient sites full of iron, probably like you! Cheers Steve

[@grahamduff9890]

Hi Gordon,great video fella,I’ve put your settings in and air tested a hammered coin I found the signal a lot louder using simple rather than rich,but you seem to hear the signals better in rich,am I missing something? Cheers again 😊

[@IronheartedGog]

@@grahamduff9890 it’s down to personal choice and the headphones you are using. I’m using my own headphones (Gog Phones) wired to the detector, or… One thing to remember is in Normal Audio Theme, Simple is the audio profile used in the Vanquish series. This is very flat with few nuances. Normal - Medium is similar to the Nox series, more variation within tones. Normal - Rich is taking these nuances even further, giving a user the ability of noticing subtle differences in target responses. These different profiles are also in Enhanced and Detph Audio themes, and although they change the audio in the same way, they cannot be compared to previous models like you can set in Normal. Choose what works for you, there’s no magic setting!

[@anashamdi7321]

Nice!!

[@mikeholland9264]

hi gordon , i used this excellent program last sunday and found a few good finds including a henry iii cut half at good depth. my question is would i gain anything by using a 5 tone version of this program ?

[@IronheartedGog]

Not really. If you were to line 4/5 tones after the one that covers coke, you would just add a bit of strain on the processor. If however, you want to add different tone to TID range then the extra processor pressure would be a necessity.

[@mikeholland9264]

@@IronheartedGog thanks gordon ,i will just leave it as you have shown. Thanks for your work much appreciated

[@kurt5488]

What's the difference between simple and rich?

[@IronheartedGog]

Think of it like this; Simple is the audio the Vanquish uses, Normal the Equinox uses and Rich which is new for the Manticore. Each has different audio depth and information, Simple is a flat sound with little info other than beep beep. Normal audio gives good strong audio responses that gives users the ability to hear falsing, mixed tones from multiple targets and depth differences (fainter responses at depth). Rich takes all this even further with more info, but does quieten done the audio overall, not for everyone.

[@Dannyobeirnes]

Good vid.

[@hardhatcat100]

Ferrous pitch was not in this video?

[@IronheartedGog]

Ferrous pitch is set to 1 (from factory 4.)

[@hardhatcat100]

@@IronheartedGog ty

[@SnipeU1st]

Just wondering if anyone from USA has tested these settings yet before i try?

[@SnipeU1st]

I am trying it today in a park. I will report back with findings.

[@manchapkarm3626]

Can the Manticore tones be set like the Etrac/ctx ie high tone for iron and low tone for hammered coins and so on ?

[@IronheartedGog]

You can set a low tone for hammered high tone for high conductors (as I did here)… and put any tone you want for the ferrous tone 'ferrous pitch'. I set the pitch at 1 (factory setting) which is lower than the lowest tone on non-ferrous low-conductors (10). But you could apply a high pitch on ferrous tones if you wanted to… not sure it be of any benefit though.

[@markchapman6933]

@@IronheartedGog Thank you .

[@CommonGuy]

Ground balance - do you ever use auto tracking?

[@IronheartedGog]

Not on my land, I’m usually detecting for deep targets on pasture/farm land, and this is often not very mineralised. Ground tracking can remove the target responses of deep targets that are at the edge of detection. Tracking is great in high mineralisation, in countries where this is a real problem (eg Australia). In the U.K. we are fortunate this isn’t the case.

[@kurt5488]

Do you use all metal on or off?

[@IronheartedGog]

I always search in All Metal (on).

[@petercollins2828]

Having trouble following the adjustments in 2 region all tones

[@petercollins2828]

Think there may be some button pressing going on off camera

[@IronheartedGog]

No, it is what it is. First select left edit point 'T2 Start', press edit (right button), use the red-down-arrow button to move down to 1, come out of edit (left button). Then select the line 'T2 Volume', press edit (right button), use the left red arrow button to turn down the volume from 25 to 4, come out of edit (left button). Then select right edit point 'T2 End', press edit (right button), use the down red arrow button to move down to 1 and then the left red arrow button to move the edit point left to a setting of 2, come out of edit (left button). And adjust the T2 start to 10 and then T2 end to 47 using the same procedure above.

[@meyou3064]

Hi Graham followed your videos since owning my 8oo some 5 years ago, would you answer a simple question for me please, as an iron check on the Nox 800 you could switch to 5 or 10 Kilohertz, does this method still apply with the Manticore ? or has the ferrous limits now improved and this of method changing frequencies no longer required ? be interested in your reply, Thx again keep the Videos coming don't trust other youtubers.

[@IronheartedGog]

The new ferrous limits compare targets to single frequency, much like iron bias F2 does on the Equinox 800… but still try it, it could make a tricky iron target less tricky.

[@petercollins2828]

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