Is 5G Home Internet BETTER Than Fiber?

[@tonyp799100]

If you have an option for fiber, that should almost always be your first choice. However, 5g wireless seems like a nice option for the rest.

[@albion_i]

I have fiber and get 10 gig up and down

[@kuva]

unless your cell signal is shoddy. than your stuck with coax.

[@4n1eu]

depends on the price. In Germany a fiber connection can cost 50€/month, while you could get an unlimited 5g plan for like 13€/month if you do some research. I think most LTT viewers would prefer fiber, but if you don't spend 20h+/day online, 5g might be enought.

[@theairaccumulator7144]

​​@@4n1euhow unlimited is that unlimited plan with 400+gb of traffic monthly? here the vast majority of broadband plans don't have data caps but all "unlimited" data plans do actually have a data cap, at 50 or 100gb normally.

[@PaulGrayUK]

@@4n1eu It's also the upstream that many fibre deals give that handicaps, I get better upstream on my 4g broadband than friends on fibre get. Sure latency is nowhere as good if you an FPS fanatic, but acceptable for causal gamers (5g will be better and not got that yet). Heck, how many fiber deals say giga this and that and have an upstream of 10Mbps is kinda shocking.

[@Rassiel13]

As someone that works in the network side of these kinds of deployments, one thing we run into with using 4GLTE and 5G to individual sites is that depending on the tower's location (and the general region of the sites getting service) you can run into a lot of VHF interference in the form of "Microwave Fading". this can effect not only your individual connection, but connections in the broader area, even powerful long-range transmitters risk running afowl of this problem. Another problem we run into frequently is a form of interference that happens in the upper atmosphere called Tropospheric ducting, where temperature differences between the higher part of the tower (where more powerful transmitters tend to sit) and lower parts of the tower create a kind of airduct preventing the passage of radio waves. Often times there's not much the consumer can do to alleviate these issues. If you've got 5G (or are in an area where 4GLTE is your only option) and you've noticed your internet being flakey in the early morning hours (2am - 8am) this is likely what you've been experiencing.

[@fungo6631]

>VHF Interference >Microwave fading >Tropo ducting prevents passage of radio waves Yeah no. That's not exactly how it works. First off, microwave isn't VHF, but UHF and SHF. Tropo ducting is a problem not because it prevents passage of radiowaves, on the contrary, it's a problem because they go beyond the horizon and potentially cause interference in the distance. Temperature differences on cell towers also aren't that drastic. It's not like TV towers that are sometimes as high as entire hills, some of which going beyond 500 meters.

[@Rassiel13]

@@fungo6631 you've never seen a wisp implementation in the states then. And yes, certain regions can produce those drastic temperature differences that create tropospheric ducting.

[@moRaaOTAKU]

I live next to a cell tower from my carrier 4G 4.5G speeds cut in half while being inside

[@nateo200]

Most of these issues are HF and low band VHF issues that I deal with in the amateur radio bands but even at 600 or 700MHz you aren’t dealing with these issues accept maybe in extreme cases of rapid temperature shifts but even then. Also LTE and 5G is on so many different frequencies these days that I can’t imagine this being a huge issue that a handover to a different site could fix.

[@fungo6631]

@@nateo200 You have no idea what you're talking about. Tropo is stronger on UHF than VHF and almost non existent on HF.

[@NathanMillerVisuals]

The T-Mobile home unit was a game changer for my home! I live in a rural area that never had cable internet so we used satellite. When this came out we were now able to stream KZbin at higher than 480p, download faster than 5mbps, and game online.

[@CommodoreFan64]

I live in a somewhat rural area, but we have had cable internet since 07 from Breezeline(formally Atlantic BroadBand), and Frontier DSL, but Breezeline was charging me a kidney each month for 160 Mbps/25 Mbps, and Frontier DSL speeds/prices are a joke, so back in Feb of this year I went to my local T-Mobile store a couple towns over, ended up with the Sagemcom Gateway got it setup in a clear window, and using my TP-Link Deco Mesh WiFi setup I'm seeing speeds as has high as 600 Mbps + down(usually in the high 400's to 500's) and up as high as 150 Mbps(usually in the 80's to 100's) with idle ping times under 24ms and as low as 14ms. My only issues have been where it dumps my IP out in Atlanta, GA about 3 1/2 hours west of me so I have to sometimes trick KZbin TV with my phone to give me the correct location data for the right channels, along with telling websites my correct location, and to pick up OTA TV signals I had to put LTE/5G line filters on all my TV antennas. But totally worth it for the speeds, and how cheap it is compared to anything else in my area.

[@ryanhamstra49]

Same. I’ve been happy with it over all, but it’s not perfect and if I could get fiber I would in a heartbeat

[@CommodoreFan64]

​@@ryanhamstra49 No one in my area is offering straight fiber to the home(Frontier claims they are running fiber in my town, but I've not seen jack from them) it's fiber to the node, and copper coxal to the home, and Breezeline charges an arm, and a leg after the initial promotional offers, that don't exist if you have ever been a customer in the past, so for me it's not worth going back to Breezeline when T-Mobile works for my needs, is way faster, and 1/2 the normal price of their slowest plan.

[@neondemon5137]

Welcome to 2006!

[@DontDoubtOurServers]

@@neondemon5137shhhhhiiitt in 2006 I’d be over the moon to get 5mbit 😂

[@secoh2000]

The only option we had till recently was DSL/Starlink in our rural woodlands. Fiber was just rolled through and we are now connected at 1000/1000; I am so spoiled and can't believe how much difference there is from our previous connections!

[@tonyp799100]

I work for a small service provider and we're 100% fiber now. I can confirm that us technicians are about as spoiled as our customers. It's been a win/win situation for everyone.

[@selohcin]

I'm a bit envious. I live in a village with hundreds of houses, but we don't have the option to pay for fiber here.

[@MRJMXHD]

1000mbps up and down? That's incredible.

[@scavanger1000]

Woah that’s awesome, I just got starlink, upgraded from dsl myself

[@dawgpound4501]

were getting fiber soon in my area. Our town is very rural and the provider offers up to 1000/1000 also.

[@nathancrss]

Something that would be good to clairify in the video is that line of sight (LOS) is usually mistakened to be visual LOS by most people. It would be good to clarify RF LOS for radio antennas and dishes which requires the Fresnel zone to be clear of most objects compared to just a straight line in visual LOS.

[@Rassiel13]

Fresnel interference is the bane of my existence in the job I work at now, and lord help you if there's a body of water around.

[@xSKOOBSx]

I called frontier to sign up for fiber (their website said it wasn't available here even though it was, which is a different conversation) and they had technicians at my house like two hours later. They even discovered they needed another, different team to help run fiber through the connected unit's attic, and THEY showed up two hours after that. Everything was done in one day. I was very impressed. I also dropped ethernet into each room from the attic myself so I have hardwired internet everywhere now.

[@GSBarlev]

Did they run the ethernet or did you? I have a Google mesh and have been looking into how difficult it would be to thread cables for ethernet backhaul through my walls.

[@xSKOOBSx]

@@GSBarlev I did it, it's not horrible if you have access to the top of the walls. I got "old work" gang boxes and a cover plate with an ethernet jack. Drilled a hole in the wood above the hollow wall and dropped the cord in there. Easy peasy.

[@TheSonyExperience]

Frontier fios was amazing because you don’t need to use their gateway. And they just upgraded to 2gb. Had to move so I got AT&T fiber. Not bad. But don’t like using their gateway

[@xSKOOBSx]

@@TheSonyExperience as in the thing that converts fiber to ethernet? They said it comes with two boxes, one that does that and the router, which I told the guy to take with him. I don't have any other way to turn fiver into ethernet so I have to use their box and it seems kind of junk. I had to bend the prongs on the power plug because it kept just turning off. Has been find since.

[@pcmasterracetechgod5660]

Must be in a area with tons of technician availability, I work for frontier and to my knowledge same day installs is not a thing, next day is the quickest

[@ultimablackmage]

It is in Australia. Our fibre network is constantly breaking down & super expensive, but 5G home broadband is cheaper & more reliable. Been working fine for me when playing online.

[@Jehty_]

How is 5G more reliable than fibre? I would have assumed that's it's the exact opposite.

[@Kieran28]

Who did u go with, Telstra or optus.

[@MrJohnreader]

The HFC network is crap!!!

[@MonsterEagle141]

Without giving away too much info, what provider and generic area are you? I'm considering switching to 5g home broadband since fibre where I live in Vic sucks for gaming

[@voltare2amstereo]

Depends on your area, if you have ftth that's best of the lot If you have fttc get the service upgraded to full ftth If you have fttn (like I do) your mileage will vary though mine max can do 85 down, I have a 50 down with exetel and my service is almost rock solid If you have fixed wireless, congestion is an issue in a lot of areas If your on satellite, consider starlink

[@raulhidalgo6817]

I live in the middle of nowhere where the fastest satellite internet available was 12 mbps download and 5 mbps upload, after tmobile 5g was available for me I get around 400 mbps download and 60 mbps upload. I game with 0 issues whatsoever and has been an absolute game changer for me

[@Toastcat890]

I'm going to try their service they sent me a letter saying we can get it out here now because satellite internet is painful to use especially when I had cable before I moved.

[@odinsudons]

I have T-Mobile 5G home internet and I love it. It's $50 a month($30 if you have cellphones with them), no contract and no equipment fees. I average around 500-600 down and around 80 up. For a house of two with gaming and streaming it works perfect. No hiccups or complaints after about 6 months of usage.

[@dingdong6005]

Fuk I wish I have got it when it was $30

[@swankshire6939]

My town of 1700 has our own isp, that unlike charter(the previous monopoly) they actually service EVERYONE in the area. Fiber lines on every major street, and if you're too far away from a major road they have antennas and dishes for wireless Internet, with towers all over the place.

[@dinohag226]

Holy moly

[@nathanbrittin7301]

One thing that needs to be discussed is that these 5G home networks are not set up the same as fiber connections. They do not use or offer the same features as wired router. You cannot do port forwarding, which may be necessary for certain home server or gaming setups. And devices do not get unique public IP addresses, they all share one public IP address since most setups are CG-NAT style networks.

[@Tupsuu]

why would you not be able to do port forwarding on home 5g? You can do it with 4g. Or do they use something different

[@winnipeg21]

Depending on the network setup can depend on a lot of these factors. It is very easy to give a customer a private IP as a WISP. As for port forwarding that can become tricky depending on your NAT setup. Normally, no you can not port forward unless you contact the provider. But it is possible. As for regular cellular 5G once again depends on the setup, most home hubs i've seen support port forwarding. Private IPs are harder to obtain

[@Theinatoriinator]

@@Tupsuu Youll probably be behind a cgnat, and you cant port forward through a double nat.

[@zukacs]

wow going from 3mbps to 250mbps and still whining. you didnt have a server in first place when it was 3mbps. or just keep both for god sake

[@UTR1]

I'm using port forwarding on a few different Verizon modems as we speak...

[@jeremyrussell4468]

Had cable and tried 5G home internet. Stayed with 5G since it was half the price and speeds were the same if not better. If fiber came along I will go with that but unfortunately I am too far out in the country to expect that any time soon. Definitely worth a try.

[@la7dfa]

Where I live we do not have decent wireless coverage, but last year we finally got fiber due to government sponsoring broadband to remote areas. So now I have 500/500 for the same price as in the cities. A decent fiber backbone should be a part of the nations infrastructure as roads are. Paying taxes to get fiber available to all is the best solution like the phone lines were in 1960.

[@prongles3847]

Picked up a 4x4 MIMO outdoor antenna to use with the T-Mobile unit. Went from 40/5Mbps to consistent 450/80 in a rural town where I cant even pick up broadcast tv. 15~25ms latency.

[@davidturczak7253]

You get the ones from waveform ? Heard those are really good and not too many complaints. 4:33

[@prongles3847]

@@davidturczak7253 sure did. I got the whole kit on Amazon they sell. Still works great, been going strong for 1 1/2 years now

[@TheawesomeMCB]

I know cable companies like xfinity were panicking when t mobile 5g home internet came out. Because xfinity had an monopoly in areas and once they had competition they had to do something to keep people on, like I heard that people got an free speed upgrade.

[@alex548554]

Xfinity needs to burn in hell, why are their upload speeds so dogshit. It'd take me 25min to upload a 2gb file. Ditched them for a local fiber provider with symmetrical gigabit and no data cap at the exact same price as xfinity, never happier... Also to your point with how bad my experience has been I would go totally out of my way to avoid xfinity, looking towards Verizon/T-Mobile 5g options an settling on one of those before attempting to look at xfinity.

[@gundoxcrit1652]

Can tell you that never happened in Savannah, GA. 40% of the city the only wired ISP above 5 Mbit is Comcast, and they like to remind you that with pricing. If you want 15 Mbps up you’re paying at least 80/month as of 1/1/2023. With a data cap. I was going to use T-Mobile but they use CGNAT and I thought I’d stick with Comcast for latency. Definitely swapping to T-Mobile in January when my contract is up. As a side note, in many neighborhoods here, ATT still sells 768 kbps internet for 55/month. It’s absolutely insane.

[@ShikuTeshi]

I only have Comcast in my area and it's easily a monopoly. But they've been good to us. Though I'm in an area where I could get a 3Gbps fiber plan if I wanted to but that's overkill. I get 1Gbps down and 200Mbps up on a coax cable after they finished developing their new duplex mode. Theoretically it can hit 1:1 down and up on coax up to 1Gbps but that was a perfect setting lab test. It would also devalue their fiber plan if they did so.

[@dingdong6005]

Xifinity sucks and they rip you off

[@McGreish]

Done this years ago with 4G+. Entirely possible, sometimes even more reliable than home internet. Worked well for two people at least. 5G was a thought in my mind though 5G routers can be extremely expensive to use cheaper than home internet. Though I can get the same speed in my house, the response time likely won't be as consistent or great. You also need to find a provider that does unlimited and doesn't cap the data if you use too much.

[@hiRyan329329]

If in a area where your ISP goes out sometimes it is definitely a great failover option as you can easily find some used Cat 16 and 18 4g modems/routers for much cheaper than the 5g ones. And with a CAT18 modem and some good 4x4 antennas with decent reception you can see anywhere from 200mbps-1,200mbps (similar quality 5g can ofc see upwards of 3gbps)

[@chudchadanstud]

Worked wonders for me, virtually zero downtime, I can move house without having to wait for the ISP to connect the internet and I can take it anywhere. I take my router with me on Hotel stays. Had fibre, once a year there'd be some maintenance operation that killed the internet for hours. At one point, it was gone for days because some workers in another town accidentally cut the line. Never had dropouts "for maintenance" in years since I switched.

[@itsonlyme6872]

Can you actually take the router/modem around to different locations, even on long/short road trips etc to get internet? Obviously that also depends on the availability of 5G in those areas?

[@chudchadanstud]

@@itsonlyme6872 If you have somewhere to plug it in. I went camping not too long ago. I just popped the sim out and put it on an old phone. The used hotspot

[@kubotite9168]

@@itsonlyme6872 its actually just like glorified 5G smartphone hotspot..useable everywhere..heck mine will switch to 4G+ if no 5G detected

[@timothymclain]

Verizon is $25/mo. getting 300 down, 100 up to each device. AT&T fiber was $100/mo. and got roughly the same speed wirelessly. Loved the savings. Had to switch back after 2 months of testing due to bad lag on video conferencing, voice chat, and gaming. Verizon is perfect for light use.

[@ianmangham4570]

You get seriously ripped off in the states on cell phones, here in England 🇬🇧 I can choose from hundreds of networks

[@nathanflannery3031]

As someone who is on 5G home internet (edit: T-Mobile) after being on 80-400 gig cable previously, I can say that 5G is really crap (at least in my case). Sometimes/days the connection is fine with like 80 gig down and 15 gig up, other days it struggles to stay connected and a single Twitch stream stutters even with no other network traffic. I'd compare it to the early days of wireless mice vs wired mice, the cord is 100% superior.

[@deepspacecow2644]

Unless the cord is 60+ years old and twisted pair

[@riqdotwav]

I was using my phone's 5g signal via USB tethering for a few months when I was living in a shared apartment in Vienna, when I couldn't get a fiber contract because of the two-year minimum term of the contract. (I planned to move out). It actually worked great. The 300mbits down and 50mbits up were transmitted around 90% of the time, as per phone plan. I could even play CS with a ~35 ping with minor dropouts every ~4-5 games.

[@matthew8153]

Don’t tell them about moving out until you do so. Then the contract is cancelled without any fees, or at least that’s how it worked in America back when our providers used to require contracts.

[@ItsHatlolOfficial]

I had 5G broadband for a bit while I was living in a place for a couple months... It's actually really good. I was able to play through Geforce now at a very high bitrate with minimal ping, and still getting atleast 250/250 mbit.

[@austin270sanders3]

I don't have any options for fiber or dsl where I live, but fortunately, I got T mobile home internet, and it's great for me it's bundled in my bill for $30 a month. I live in a very rural area, and I get speeds up to 100mbps, and it can fall to 40mbps, but averages about 60 and gaming works surprisingly well. I'm satisfied for the price and the only other option is satellite, which is way to expensive. My neighbors have satellite and they're stuck with a contract, data caps, and slower speeds for 5x the money

[@hiRyan329329]

Got I hate those satellite plans, read the fine print and you realize how much more of a scam they are. Those data caps are brutal, you pay so much for so little speed but then they give you a 5-30gb cap for the entire month then it drops to 500kbps or so. At first was gonna go for Viasat's 60mbps plan then I saw it was $300/m and you only got a like 30gb cap, after that went gray market with a verizon phone plan jammed into a $400 router and a fancy outdoor antenna ($40/m Visible plan and I get like 200mbps)

[@evilleader1991]

#ad ?

[@hiRyan329329]

​@@evilleader1991Nah, just a genuine use case for these as some places quite literally don't have wired internet available

[@sir.fender6034]

I used TMobile 5G home internet because my fiber line was cut by ATT. The service worked excellent and I was getting around 300 Mbps download and 13Mbps upload on average. My fiber line was eventually restored and I kept the 5G gateway just in-case of another outage.

[@hexthepatriarchy-1111]

This just happened to me over this past w/e. ATT was putting in more fiber in our neighborhood and cut the line. We were without service for most of the w/e. I was looking into solutions and found out about TMobile 5g. Our fiber hasn't gone out in 3 yrs but wow when it's down, it's down for hours/days. Wish I could afford another bill and having 5g as backup would be great peace of mind.

[@Shiggstream]

I advise anyone to make sure you get a trial period for any 5G or WISP service, as the number of variables is simply too great to get an accurate idea of performance without installing the service. Since coverage maps are merely marketing and not based on real world data, you could absolutely be in a dead zone for certain providers.

[@Greg-ko4ow]

One thing to note is apartment living in the U.S. I currently have one option for wired Internet service (which is owned and run by the apartment complex I live in) while other faster services are available around me but not available to me. The reasoning is that the owner of the complex would have to run multiple wiring options throughout and offer them to everyone and that would be costly for them and destructive to the buildings themselves. Would really like to have one or more wireless Internet options that doesn't require the running of wires and drilling of holes but gets high Gigabit speeds (the service I currently have tops out at about 200 mbps on a good day but drops to 25 mbps frequently which is still ok for certain things but way too slow for others). There are certain things I'd like to see in my Internet which may not even be possible yet. I'd like a wireless Internet connection with gigabit speeds that comes directly from satellites or towers that need no direct line of sight, pass through concrete and metal structures as though they weren't there and doesn't cost more than I make in a month. Perhaps someday as technology advances or investors are willing to take a chance it may happen or I may just be living in my mind's fantasyland.

[@angelowilliams6539]

Think they are working on broadband via fluorescent light bulbs or Li fi

[@kraizyace2612]

I've highly considered it for some time, but because you have to commit to a specific carrier and since I've already sold my soul and more to T-Mobile, I had no choice but to go with cable since that's my only option (living in the barracks on a naval base and what not). Reception is terrible and I'm not about to spend money to find out if a different carrier can deliver. Also, thanks to the monopolies that be, my ISP of choice (not my choice, only option available) happens to have a euphemism of a name.

[@karenpff2010]

NE Scotland checking in here 👋 My parents live rurally and for the longest time, they had ADSL broadband - it was slower than a sloth and pretty much useless, and they were paying through the nose for the privilege. I bought them a 4G router, popped in a SIM and off they went! They had usable internet!! They could stream, they could do their shopping online etc! They don't have 5G in their area yet, but that will be the next step up when it happens. 4G is more than adequate for general internet stuff, plus its a fraction of the cost of a major ISP providing ADSL internet. Yes starlink is out there too now, but its very expensive (seen some dishes in our area) but 4G is pretty awesome (and affordable) when before you had f-all to begin with. Sure, 4/5G is no big deal if you live in towns and cities....you have cable and fibre which is silly speeds - but don't dismiss wireless internet - it has it's place and it most defiantly being taken up by rural communities like ours :-)

[@youdontknowme5969]

well, doing RDP over 5G was frustratingly very jittery for me. While the speed might have been there, the latency/jitter was all over the place. YMMV

[@Demopans5990]

I think its based on how old your home is. Wood vs brick basically

[@franklincastillo3748]

I have the T-Mobile 5G home internet I totally recommend it The only problem is if you live in a rural area because they want to charge you a data cap of 100 GB for every $50 so you could do the 300 GB plan that they have but you have to pay $150 per month

[@Piranha0908]

One issue is the ip associated with your home will change monthly or weekly. If you use some of the cord cutting options you might have issues there.

[@BPBomber]

Been doing this for a few years with no issues other than location services in apps and google searches often believe I’m thousands miles from where I actually am. Just have to be careful I don’t order for pickup from a home depot 7 states away.

[@JimmieBrown-sg8fq]

Been using FiOS for years, bought a new house a few years ago, 1st question is the house FiOS connected. Running on the 1gb plan now. The real advantage is reliability, consistent speed up and down link. And you can configure the router 3100 to do whatever you need to do, so very flexible, plus I have the 3100 extender to provide more coverage at full bandwidth. If you can get fiber service go that direction 1st followed by Home 5G.

[@Kroko84]

I remember when 5G was still in the hype phase before it was even introduced into the market, the promise was virtually latency-free wireless internet (provided the server you connected to was fast and close enough to where you are, of course). That turned out to be far from the reality.

[@price.gaines]

My parents’ only wired options are centurylink DSL and Xfinity cable. They switched from ctl to xfinity a few years ago and got better speed and reliability for a while but after a year or so started dropping connection at least once a day. They were paying something crazy like $90 for 200/5. Just convinced them to switch to T-mobile 5G and they saved over 50% a month while consistently getting 250/250 or more and just a short dropout every couple of weeks that resolves itself quickly. They’ll never be going back to xfinity, thank GOD.

[@mrpeebsshorts]

Something else to consider is that Verizon's home internet router/modem combo artificially throtles the speed to 300mbps even if you have faster speed available in your area. for example, I typically get 700-800mbps down on my phone while no matter where I put the modem/router I always get 300mbps down and around 30mbps up. from what I understand t-mobile's home internet does not have an artificial speed cap like verizon does.

[@chancepaladin]

tmobile doesn't have a cap but they'll throttle you if everyone's using it at once. but when you're in the middle of BFE, that's basically never. and they also cap the users per tower and won't allow more folks to sign up, either. so it's actually pretty damn good.

[@Jehty_]

​@@chancepaladindoes that mean you can't use it for travel?

[@Zombowfy]

I’ve had so many problems with the 5g router and Verizon, They oversold in my neighborhood and told me I couldn’t get a new router cause the old LTE one was defective, gave me a new one after 2 hours of arguing with support and then when I got it, Only peaks at 300/ 25 for only 30 minutes then goes to 50 to 100- 5g tower only 2 miles away worst internet I’ve had also you need to pay 90$ for the phone plan to get the 25$ internet it’s bad also the ping was so inconsistent it was either 70-80 on good days or over 200.

[@DakotaTheRota]

@@Jehty_ You can use it and it'll work fine as long as you are in the right places, but it's against the contract you sign with Tmobile. But from what I hear, they don't actually enforce it. So my bet it's something they have to put in their contracts for some legal reason I don't know about, maybe some FCC rule.

[@hiRyan329329]

I'll take a speed cap over TMHI's shared NAT issues. If you do ANYTHING that involves gaming with friends or something that requires a even slightly open network you quite simply can't do it. For instance I needed 5g internet as a failover since ISP was having issues for a long while, I run a lil plex server for my family as well as I tend to be the one hosting games for my friends, either as dedicated ones or simple things such as inviting my friend to play Stardew Valley with me. On TMHI it was impossible to do these while on Verizon 5g home I got that full 300mbps almost every second of every day, servers worked, and I was always getting their cap. Yeah my phone got faster service but the 300/30 was more than enough for me (as well as 98% of you out there)

[@daydream605]

Where i live we dont currently have the infrastructure for full fttp. We use VDSL, which emulates a phone line for connectivity to the router. Its hybrid fiber. 54mbps down 20 up.

[@brucemurray3350]

I've been on Verizon 5G Home Internet since last December. Significantly better than what I used to have since where I live couldn't get more than 50mb down. I have one desktop, which the modem directly connects to. Everything else runs on Wifi. Recently updated my MacBook Air to macOS Sonoma and update took maybe 10 minutes or so to download. I mostly focus on streaming but been playing some Star Trek Online recently with very few issues.

[@johnslugger]

*For the Money its better then DSL. The great part About SIM ROUTERS is that the Upload time is the same as the download time or 350 MBS both ways! My DSL was fast on the download but only 17MBS on the upload! Having a super fast uplaod makes a live or death difference when gaming! Plus the ATT sim card plan is only $25.00 per month with my military discount. Sure they tell you 40GB maximum but I get over 350 GB per month at full speed. Being in a rural area has advantages in this case since our tower has so little traffic. *

[@konadesu]

Ran 5G for a backup connection at home for a few years, using an external antenna pointing at a mast around a mile away using 5G n78 (midband) Got a solid 500mbps download, 20mbps upload and 15ms latency. One big thing to mention however as a continuation to 5G more often than not using a 4G backbone (5G NSA) it would mean if you go the antenna route you'd need to make sure you get a good connection on 4G AND 5G since they both will need to be connected at once and it's not uncommon to only have 5G scheduled when you have higher load so you may notice your latency increase when there's less load on your connection.

[@Urboyfromfuture]

I have 5g cpe, fiber and coaxial at my home. And 5g cpe is just not worth it. I get approx 500mbps download speed while 40mbps upload speeds. Upload speed and latency issues will never solve over commercial internet.

[@fernablo702]

I tried both T-Mobile and Verizon's 5G home internet... it's okay for video streaming but horrible for online gaming. Went right back to fiber.

[@CallardAndBowser]

It's not better than Fiber but it's perfect for most people and to only pay $30 a month for Tmobile Home Internet it's a fraction of what Fiber costs. If you unfortunately live in an Edward Rose Apartment complex they do not allow you to have an ATT fiber connection and the cable internet they provide is sub par, so getting Tmobile Home Internet is your only salvation living at an Edward Rose Property.

[@pjplaysgaming367]

It’s such a gamble. I got unlucky with 5g.

[@variantloki9478]

This T-Mobile 5G internet is a blessing. If they maintain the network quality and keep improving the technology, a lot of wired networks are gonna have a hard time.

[@fightingfalconfan]

The last wireless internet I used was OK at best. A company called ClearWire and I always had to have the modem on my window sill for the best connection. We had that because we had Comcast and couldn't afford their price hikes any longer. We had finally got Verizon fiber to the home and it was a game changer. Granted it still fed a coax gateway at that point but it was fast and reliable for everything. These days I have fiber to the home where I live now and I am never going back unless I have no choice.

[@watcher206]

Until fiber internet rolled out in my area about 6 months ago it was pretty much a choice between wireless internet (connect gradd.), satellite internet, or mobile hotspot. Connect gradd was so bad that I would get maybe 35 kilobytes per second on a good day. So just imagine paying $40 per month for dial-up Speeds, in 2019. But hey at least they didn't have a data cap, so just leave your computer running for a month to download a steam game. Satellite did do better as far as internet speeds go. I don't remember what the exact Speeds, but exceed had a 10 gig data cap for $50 per month... which might be fine for a phone but it's pretty much nothing for a computer in 2021. Then the moble hotspot.. in my case the ISP was t-moble. For the most part it worked all right, no 2000s era data cap, and got 300 mbps most of the time. However there is one big caveat with all cellular isps... and that is incoming connections are blocked. Which means if you want to host a game that doesn't use steam networking you would need to use a tunnel proxy vpn in order to bypass the ISP block. Given the Alternatives I just listed I signed up for Fiber service as soon as it rolled out of my area 6 months ago and I'm glad I have it. 1 gig up and down.. (At least on a Lan connection.) No blocks to bypass, and there isn't a data cap. Never going back to anything else if I can help it.

[@polyesterShark]

My family got a 5G home internet modem. The download speed is usually a few hundred megabit, and upload is pretty decent. The glaring flaw is the cellular network isn't capable of handling any bandwidth for upload, no matter the speed. So multiple people gaming will cause the modem to temporarily fail. Playing games with servers isn't a problem, but peer-to-peer will kill the modem.

[@alkansfunadventures]

Wake up, A new Techquicke video.

[@PaulSman123]

I have had the Tmobile 5g for over a year now and it has worked amazingly for me and I live in Fort Worth TX. I can download games from steam and other programs at 40+mbs and have 0 lag issues while playing call of duty or other online games.

[@JohnnyManu40]

Since I've used many of these forms of connections, let me just break it down to an easy list for folks who want something quick and easy. 1. Only use satellite 'space' internet if you have nothing else at all. 2. Use WISP/terrestrial tower based connections if you can't get a wire. Don't expect anything faster than 50 megabits per second down, or 10 up; max. They tend to like to keep things to a 10:1 ratio asynchronous. Some exceptions may exist. 3. Consider leasing high altitude building space or land to the ISP near you for a terrestrial tower if you can. You can get a deal on internet. Possibly paid too. Deals may vary. This helps them flesh out their network in that area if they are looking to do so. 4. If you can get a wire dug in for a rural area, consider spending extra to get a fiber line installed somehow. Even if you have to borrow money and repay over time. It won't be cheap to get connected to a fiber line backbone in rural areas, but it does let you get setup as your own ISP if you do it right.

[@MCCENTx2]

Straight $50/month all fees included. Free modem/router to use. Cancel anytime. Unlimited data. 150Mbps down. And the ping is sub 10ms. I was skeptical at first but it's actually great in Michigan

[@ebsolas]

Been using Tmobile's home internet for a while now and it's so much better than what we had before. Being charged nearly $200 a month for 80mbps down 10 up vs $50 for 200mbps up & down was night and day. I'd recommend it to anyone. Old internet was copper cable, and it went down 2-3 times a week and we got literally laughed at and told "what are you going to do about it" when we tried to get our pricing reduced after they raised the price $30 in one month. Haven't had a problem or price hike after 5 years now.

[@Techfanatic73]

Used TMobile home 5g for about year and a half. Only $50 a month or $30 if you have a phone with them. Never had one issue. Fiber is great but this was a third of the price. Got 300-400mbs consist and used about 1.8Tb a month. Even worked good with GeForce now.

[@fabiots1234]

5G home internet user here and, funny enough, my router is the same as the one they’re using on the video 😂 The main reason I chose to go this route is for freedom of options: I rent my apartment and management forces us to use fiber from a specific vendor (which we all know leads to inflated prices). I happen to be fortunate enough to live in between two cell towers, so signal here isn’t a problem. I consistently get over 500 down and 35 up, and latency is pretty decent for gaming From my experience, I definitely recommend going this route if you fall in a similar situation

[@blankmeme224]

Yeah, I am looking forward towards this route too, my ISP speed is 50mbps, but I am certain I can get faster speeds with 5g.

[@mikesilva8556]

I always got this question, it is possible to connect a netgear router in order to have a better speed?

[@2008gagiudaniel]

It sure took you long to reach this conclusion. I have been using a "mobile" internet connection for years now. Although recently I had the possibility to get an optical fiber internet connection I still prefer the versatility of the unlimited 5g router connection. Thank you.

[@joaquinm7502]

I just got 5G from Verizon for the free Xbox and as a backup circuit to my fiber. I work from home and I want to limit my downtime. So far i've been impressed with 300 MB down.

[@jacktracy8356]

I've done the same thing but with T-Mobile. Did you have any problems setting up and connecting the app to their modem wifi while your fiber wifi was active? My set up would connect to the fiber wifi instead of to their modem wifi freezing my app in set up mode.

[@joaquinm7502]

@@jacktracy8356 I setup my Verizon router near my PC with my old wifi still on but I shut everything downwhen I reied adding it as a second connection on my router. Sounds like you should turn of your old router & wifi and setup your tmobile router. After setup turn everying back on. My verizon router took a while before it started working but worked with my old wifi on. Just make sure your using different bands/frequencies.

[@danielendresz2033]

I can get faster 5G than WiFi at home but wired is always more responsive.

[@UliDaNihilist]

I use T-Mobile 5G Home Internet service and absolutely love it. I used to have Comcast's 900mbps plan that cost $90 a month and only had a 36mbps upload speed. Now I pay $30 a month for TMHI and I get 300-600mbps download and 80-100mbps upload speeds, depending on time of day. I live less than a quarter of a mile away from the tower and my connection stays rock solid. For the price, it's amazing and has been much more reliable than Comcast.

[@PiterStreak]

This is my scenario as well. I has spectrum 300 down and 30up for 50 a month. Then they take it little by little to the point it was 90 a month. Switched to T-Mobile home Internet and get 300-600 down and 20-75 up for a fixed $50/Month

[@omkarkanase1349]

Come to India I have JIO 5G which gives me 1GBPS and because 5G is experimental in India it is free and I have unlimited data

[@BLASTIC0]

i have the tmobile thing. I was impressed. I got it just to try it out, but it is faster than my cable modem! latency isn't quite there (its better with ATT & Verizon, but the speeds are slower overall, I hear) but its more than usable even gaming. What's great is its portable... powed by USB C 15w max, I can take it anywhere and have unlimited for $50/month

[@dr_ari_gami]

Many wireless home Internet providers will actually prioritize your traffic last. They usually prioritize premium customers, then regular customers, then hotspots, and then home Internet.

[@Omnicronous]

Actually use 5g Internet at my house, $30 a month compared to a minimum $100 from Xfinity or Star Link.

[@gus473]

Starlink in my rural US location is $90, unlimited data. And after waiting 19 years we now have fiber optic available if there's ever a reason to change, and we got a quote of around $60/month.

[@BananditonYT]

Anecdotal but at my apartment 5G was much better but something I’d recommend most people wait a few years for. My experience was very finicky and had issues where I ended up going back to fiber. But when it works it’s so much faster and in my area, so much cheaper

[@SamPhoenix_]

When I moved in to a multi occupancy property, I didn't know where the modem was and didn't have a good connection, 5G was an actual life saver in that flat bc I got it and plonked it down within my first weekend and was even able to game online for the most part, then just took it with me when I moved. Then when I then moved into my flat, the building only had ADSL so was 10MB/s max & 5G was a great alternative, but when they installed fibre to the building it was awful in comparison. It fills a nice void if you can't get fibre to the property or fibre is too expensive, but if you can get FttP affordably, then there is no beating it.

[@davidroddini1512]

5G is great for internet access but fiber is better… for constipation 😂

[@James_Knott]

According to what I read recently, my ISP is planning to offer 5G backup. I'm on a cable modem, but they also offer fibre. They also have several 5G bands between 600 MHz and 3.5 GHz. I have set up several businesses with 4G backup.

[@BPBomber]

AT&T wireless + NetGear Nighthawk 5G modem + eero mesh network via Ethernet cable = fantastic whole house wireless coverage at download speeds ~180Mbps & upload of ~25Mbps for around $43 USD / month. My household doesn’t game but we stream about 350GB of video data per month. We often have 4 devices simultaneously streaming video with rarely an issue. The speed and latency fluctuations are a definite drawback but they’re not so bad as to be a dealbreaker. It’s been nice to finally be able to fully break away from Xfinity.

[@A_2the_lex]

I am on a 4G home broadband connection, waiting on 5G, it is great Except*: when raining or cloudy, connection flat out cuts out, phone remains fine (on the same network) Speed is also limited artificially, provider claims against, but again phone on same network regularly achieves double the speed.

[@jockey12022011]

Located in Australia here. Frustrated at optical fibre speeds, I stopped paying for home broadband years ago. Phone provider has plenty of data (180GB/month) for my phone plan and very fast (5G) and reliable (Telstra). I just hotspot my laptop, pc and smart tv when I get home. Those devices don't need to be connected to the internet when I'm not home. I also get to take my data anywhere I got (ie as it's tied to my phone).

[@skooter8691]

One thing to consider with 5g home internet, at least with tmobile, is where the internet says you are. Ours claims we are in a park over 30 miles north of our location when the code of the tower we connect to is 0.5miles away. This causes problems trying to watch sports... a lot of problems. You WILL need a vpn if you use 5g home internet (even more so if your company lets you work from home and checks if you are home).

[@jenovaizquierdo]

The senteGood video. For anyone considering switching to a 5G router for gaming, don't waste your time. I got the T-Mobile Wi-Fi router and tried to play a streaming game from work using my PlayStation Portal, but the signal was horrible. The quality was like 480p, and I kept losing the connection. I decided to go home and play on the same network, but it was still the same. Get fiber or whatever is available, but avoid a 5G router for gaming.

[@fishgoboom3098]

Switched from Cox to T-mobile and get way faster speeds for less than half the price and barely any increased latency. They have also been more reliable as Cox would have “service issues” every couple weeks. I was skeptical at first but now I recommend 5G internet to everyone. (Depending on their region/location of course)

[@MK.__]

One suggestion - It's better to put the source URL of a screenshot at the bottom of the screen. It interrupts the actual content.

[@PJH088Y]

4G, 5G or even Starlink is a CGNat so for you gamers out there you would need a Router that supports port forwarding and you would need a VPN called PureVPN and pay extra for fixed IP and port Forwarding. Note the vpn is not cheap. Reasoning for this is a CGNAT has a Dynamic IP address as a result your NAT Type would be Strict effecting Match Making not only that if you want external connections like Remote Desktops this also applies to you also.

[@donthompson567]

I must add as well it doesn't matter how fast your internet is You're going to be governed by whatever you're connecting to. And honestly as far as streaming goes you can stream 4K over a 5 megabit per second connection. Honestly anything over 200 megabits it's just a waste of money.

[@Jonathan_O]

I’m a network engineer and I have T-Mobile home Internet. I do live in an urban area Tampa Florida but my speeds are great about 800 down 120 Up latency is always below 100 ms usually below 50ms.

[@Eoin-B]

I used to have fiber in the city (though fiber to hub, then cable to home), I had 150mbs but in the evening contestion made it 40 or so. I'm far in the countryside now, got a 5g satellite looking antane 5ft above the roof and it's stable as hell at 70mbs with no contestion. For the remote countryside it's hands down the best if you fork out for the good antenna.

[@theanswerisfortytwo8481]

We use it as a backup and it is not as reliable as our comcast cable internet, and also the cgnat makes it difficult to use my vpn. However, when it works it is fast and we use it as a cheap backup to our cable internet, because my job is critical. When the cable internet goes out, the speed is adequate for a couple people working from home.

[@Perokoulos]

You should also mention the impossibility to have static IP, use NAT or open ports on most (many all) LTE/4/5G and WISP operators...

[@jaimechavarria177]

I had Verizon home internet in the city of San Francisco, CA with a MMwave Modem! 2-2.6gbits down, and 200-350mbits up! And with the M1 Ipad Pro that I have, it would hit 3gbits down in the area Minna St and Russ St. Only paid 25$ for the plan.

[@stranger242]

I used T-mobile home internet for 2 years, and for 99% of the US it would probably be fine in areas where it was strong. I had no issues 99% of the time, though competitive gaming latency was still not nearly as good, but streaming netflix and working from home all worked fine.

[@keyboard-commentator]

I have the TMO router in the thumbnail. it's great, faster than the cable/comcast i had before. AND, the coolest part is, it runs of USB C, so when the power goes out, you can hook it up to a powerbank and keep the wifi up at home for hours. just depends on the size of your power bank. you could honestly prob plug it into the cig lighter outlet in your car, and have wifi wherever you drive in your car.

[@smitus_hell7564]

(UK) i can only get 3-7mb speeds with what is available to our building(pub) about £38pm 24m contract so i got a 5g router which lives in the attic, with an external antenna - the mast is a few miles away. i can get up to about 600mb, about 400mb on average.. at £18pm no contract. we play halo fine, says high ping but don't really see it. if we move or that i can just pick it up and move it. the main problem i have a few times a week i tend to have to restart the router, problems with speed. overall its great

[@EddyA1337]

Any wired connection, even DSL (which most places that offer DSL offer VDSL2 bonded which can do like 300 down 100 up) is better than 5G internet for gaming, latency being the biggest issue, but for rural areas that could only get satellite, 5G is a godsend.

[@aprxmt4690]

I used Verizon 5G UW internet for several months and absolutely loved it before I moved to a new home where it wasn't available. You simply can't beat 215+ mbps downloads for $25. I was paying $60 for 300 from spectrum before that. Granted it got spotty at times but it was still plenty enough bandwidth for at least 2 hd streams.

[@PenguCC]

T-Mobile's home internet is actually deprioritized from Phones. Since they are a phone service company and not specific for home internet they prioritize phones over home internet. So your speeds can drastically change throughout the day or drop horribly for months. At the time of writing I've went from 200 down and 20 up to 42 down and 9 up. Even with higher speeds my latency is anywhere from 80-100 on a good day, with ping spiking as high as 1000 at around midnight to 3am.

[@samuell.foxton4177]

As someone who manages an office network that runs off two 5G gateways (short term lease and no fibre to the building), and which has line of sight to 5G transmitters about 100m away: no. Even with failover, we still get dropouts requiring reset of the gateways at least once a week

[@CaptainMauzer]

I am in the US and use Verizon’s 5g home internet (and have for a little over a year now). Outside of having to reset the modem a handful of times over the year, I’ve not had any significant issues. I play online games all the time, can’t say I’ve ever noticed a difference between cable broadboand. Downsides: sustained downloads tend to fluctuate their download speed more so than wired connections. You are kind of stuck with the ISP’s shitty modem/router combo (you can technically bridge a router to it, but it’s not ideal…especially for people who don’t know their router has an administration screen). It’s not the fastest thing out there, but for $25USD a month, i cannot complain. It’s just as reliable as my old cable internet service, nearly as fast but 25% of the cost.

[@calebwhite6173]

We got tmobile for $30 a month on our phone plan and it’s fantastic. We have multiple lights and HomePods on the network and 3 tvs, 3 cellphones and two laptops. Occasionally it will slow randomly but it’s very infrequent. We watch a lot of tv but I haven’t gamed at all.

[@MatthewSuffidy]

I was paying like $85/mo CDN on a combined land phone line and 10mbit DSL. Then I got annoyed with how much the land line was costing and that it was breaking down. I got a cell plan for $85 with 20GB of data then it goes slower but did not cost me anything. Well later I upgraded to 110GB for $110 after tax again, and I am very happy with it. At this time it is fine and I can take my internet anywhere. Also I don't have a separate sim for home use, I plug my iphone by usb into a openwrt router. It does the same thing.

[@shaydesofblue2281]

Location definitely plays a role on which internet provider you need to get.

[@danytoob]

I've been using Verizon 5G for about a year now and is been really good. Consistently hovers at 300 down, 20 up. Available cable service for that speed would cost about double (after first discount expires) and I don't like the provider, Spectrum. Super east install...just plugged it in, up and running 3 minutes later, literally. No fiber where I live so this is as good as it gets for now.

[@biswarupd]

In India every I say every ISP provides Fiber Optic + Gigafiber Router where Fiber cable gets directly installed... The installation cost hovers around ₹2k/$23.9 and monthly cost of ₹6-700/$7-8 for 70-80mbps(10MBPS) and believe me the avg speed is almost 12-15MBPS most of the time and there is no data cap... And if you recharge for 3months at the time of new connection the installation is free... And new 5g router is being rolled out in 5g network area for as low as ₹600/$7 for 1TB data with 350+ TV channels with HD & 20+ OTTs... And for a 6 month recharge the installation is free...

[@Weather_Nerd]

Beyond grateful to have TM 5g for the last 7-9 months. Was stuck on Att dsl for uh since 2008; began with 1.5Mb DL plan, upgraded to 3Mb after a year and that was my best option for a good 10-12 years. Finally they let me get their 5Mb uverse plan which actually netted me 6.5Mbps DL and just about 1Mbps UL, and that was a game changer for me with 1080p video finally being streamable lol. The dsl was extremely stable and never fluctuated which I liked, and the ping was great for gaming but boy did big game updates take forever- approximately 2.3-2.7GB per hour download. My T Mobile mostly runs from 130Mb down on a bad day to anywhere from 150-245Mb on average, and upload usually 20-30Mb on a bad day or 40-80Mbps range is my common numbers. Words can’t even express how nice it is to have such speeds! There are nearby cable lines but they never ran them to my road and don’t plan on it either so this is the next best option and I wish it existed for YEARS but better late than never! For reference, the nearest tower is 1/4 to 1/2 mile away, slightly higher in elevation, and we have some trees between us but if all the trees were gone I could probably just barely see it from my home. Modem is in a window. I don’t think it always matters as I have had speedtests be the same but my 5g signal on the modem fluctuates between 3 and 4 bars out of 5

[@nicholaskaralus1904]

I am a isp guy 15 years . With the cell gateway use a different router . Tested Verizon att and tmobile all needed a router I pay $30 a month

[@stal2281]

In Germany, *YES*. It's insane how bad our internet is. I am lucky to have 50 Mbit/s. Only one provider can supply that. Everyone else can give me only 2 Mbit/s. My ping is always over 140 ms and rightfully ISPs only have to deliver about 50% of the bandwidth they advertised. Latency is not included, so they are off the hook.

[@andresoares2110]

Wow, in Brazil ultrafibre optics 550mbps from Tim is the norm for just 16 usd

[@nerd3d-com]

Remember to wrap the 5G router in aluminum foil to protect you from the mind control rays.

[@MichaelConawayOfficial]

This wasn't mentioned in the video but 5G home Internet (at lease with Tmobile) you can NOT port forward any ports and if you do, you need to buy a vpn with a dedicated ip with port forwarding.

[@DIRTROCK11]

I used to have AT&t fiber with a 1000 up and down / 3ms ping I move and the best i can get is t-mobile 5G internet. I've used it for over a year, The service definitely depends on your gateway I've had three different gateways and my internet is substantially better now on average. I can get anywhere between 200 and 500 down and 10 to 20 up depending on the day. For gaming the ping times and packet loss are okay but really depends on the day some days it feels like normal internet some days it's horrible on average you will be on ping times of 30ms to 60ms and can definitely fluctuate with network congestion. Biggest downside for me is no port forwarding for Plex servers or Minecraft servers there's workarounds but they're not great. I would say it's better than most options but fiber is still king.

[@Secret_Takodachi]

anything less than 1000 up & down feels like living in a third world country these day lol (can you tell I live in New England?) I can't imagine what life on a lower speed network must be like. Not when every webpage is so goddamn large, filled with videos & endlessly scrolling nowadays 😂

[@DIRTROCK11]

@@Secret_Takodachimost things you really don't feel the difference but if they offered fiber I would take it in a heartbeat.

[@daemonbyte]

When you're rural and the copper cable gives you 2mb/s then then absolutely it can provide home internet. It's changed my parents access and they'd never have gotten a cable upgrade out there

[@connornelson100]

In my area the only wired internet option is standard copper line,and the best it can ever provide is 10mbps and thats on a 1 in a million to get that. Got 5G internet with 3Three and its so much better. After w little complaining as teh router was damaged its now working great. The lowest speeds i get is around 150mbps and high of 500mbps and around 20 latensy.

[@Sonic6293]

Another drawback not mentioned is that you may not have a static IP address. I went from Spectrum to T-Mobile Home Internet, and I found that my IP address is no longer local. I can't seem to get an IP address for my state unless I have a business account.

[@Johnny_1122]

I have both a 5g connection and a cable. My poor 5g connection was disconnecting me every 30 seconds from teams when i had to work from home due o covid. At this point i decided to buy a cable intrenet, and keep my 5g for backup/load balancing.

[@wakzyon]

you never mentioned that if there is a power outage it could affect the network, the US/UK MIDDLE EAST.. ETC have a more stable power grid, us in South Africa can have outages even though there is power, however even if the power outage is 10/20/30km away there is nothing for up to 10 hours a day

[@ConnerPanaro]

I have this in the UK. I get between 200-500mb down. Which is a big improvement from my FTTC connection which tops out at 80. Getting FTTP soon which should give consistent gig but we'll see