WiFi 7 tested: is it really worth the upgrade?

[@timbacchus]

Thank you so much for this information. You still are the only KZbinr who does this for us. Your information is gold. Please keep it up and I hope you guys had a wonderful thanksgiving.

[@LironSegev]

I am so glad you are finding the content useful! 👍 and thank you for being here🔥

[@brucemckenna7035]

Brilliant comparison Liron. Thank you for your very interesting analysis. Cheers from Australia.

[@LironSegev]

Thanks mate 🔥

[@danmar007]

Thank you for all the work!! I no longer have the patience to do stuff like this, so I'm quite glad there are techs on KZbin who are willing to torture themselves for our benefit. :-)

[@LironSegev]

It wasn't easy 😂 but worth the effort

[@pigatt1]

I got an Orbi system less than a year ago. I think it’s a 6 and I’m pretty happy with it. For what it’s worth paid for it, I think I will stay with it for a while longer.

[@LironSegev]

cool - if it works for you and your speeds, then keep it. Less than a year? def keep it :)

[@robh5695]

Thanks for doing all that testing, Liron. Wifi 7 is worth it if you want that speed gain.

[@LironSegev]

pretty much

[@johnbussey7507]

Thanks!

[@LironSegev]

Appreciate you ❤️

[@mybachhertzbaud3074]

The thing that matters for most people is how well the router handles multiple devices at once. Especially in high traffic areas.🤔

[@LironSegev]

And that is why Wifi 7 is ideal. Because of the way it handles the wireless devices and optimizes the traffic 6:06

[@mybachhertzbaud3074]

Not complaining here but, as I said you have to test using multiple devices at the same time not one device at a time. Also of note, those speed tests can vary wildly depending on which test site is being used. Having setup the wifi for one of our local School districts in my previous life, I ran into so many variables that affect the radio waves it could make Marconi puke.😜

[@johnc2438]

I still am getting yeoman service from my old Nighthawk RX8000 router. Yeah, it's not setting any speed test records, but it's been humming along just fine since I bought it in September 2016 (did a full factory-level reset early last year and restart it weekly, along with my cable modem). WiFi TV reception in the living room a room away is just fine. I'll probably bite the bullet next year, and get a WiFi 7 router. Prices are coming down, and more models are entering the market. Great video, as always. Have a wonderful holiday season and New Year 2025! Greetings from a retired U.S. Navy chief petty officer in the Pacific Northwest. ⚓

[@LironSegev]

You'll definitely see a big difference with the new WiFi routers. 👍

[@m-faccin]

Thank you for this test, for me is a no brainer replacing my wifi 5 router at this point.

[@therotterdamboy]

Love your video and thank you for the time and effort you put into making this.

[@LironSegev]

Appreciate you being here 🔥

[@denningtonja]

Well I bought the Asus on Amazon based on this test. Now I’ll be able to experience it for myself.

[@Mr.Coffee20255]

Thanks for the test.

[@LironSegev]

You bet

[@paulvaz5846]

Thank you 😊 Your test was spot on.

[@LironSegev]

You’re welcome 😊

[@GamingWithBeansVR]

HEY MAN I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS

[@LironSegev]

appreciate you being here!

[@GamingWithBeansVR]

@ HE REPLIED OMG

[@4givenoxygenbarez]

Thank you for this

[@GaryV-p3h]

The question is, is it better to wait 3 years for wifi 8 to come out.

[@Anondady]

Great video. Thanks.

[@ddddaaddaaaa]

i like how you do the speed test

[@LironSegev]

Appreciate you

[@randyyaw]

The vast majority of people do not have nearly the speed of an Internet connection as you do. Most people have 300 to 500 meg. The vast majority of people do not need a wi fi 7 router.

[@LironSegev]

You are mixing internet speed with internal speed. While the Internet speed may be slower, what you get with wifi 7 is much better internal connectivity. This means less buffering, less lag so each device gets a better internet usage.its not just about how fast the Internet is, it's about how much better the experience is for each device with whatever speed you get.

[@GarNelson1]

Very interesting, thank you. What I am looking for is more of a wireless bridge. An easy (but not precisely accurate) way to describe my property is a garage near the property line where the fiber internet comes onto the property. Because I didn't think ahead and there is no underground conduit, I have two concrete walls and about 14 meters of air before I get to the main house. I do not want to string an overhead wire from the garage to the main house--what I want is to wirelessly bridge from the ISP modem in the garage to all my stuff in the main house. I think from your testing, WiFi7 would be worth it even though in the near term, the only WiFi7 devices will be either end of the wireless bridge between the house and the garage. I just need to figure out what those two WiFi7 devices will be.

[@ytguy2010]

One thing to note is that a Wifi 7 router will often have a faster CPU (SOC) than a Wifi 6 router and therefore have better performance with Wifi 6 devices.

[@pontusjakobsson8653]

Thank you for information!

[@LironSegev]

no probs - thanks for watching!

[@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369]

Thanks COOP ...

[@IamLookingforWoody_________786]

By the way, knowledgeable video😊😊😊.

[@LironSegev]

Thanks for watching! 🙏

[@IamLookingforWoody_________786]

​@@LironSegev🥰🥰🥰

[@PhatTony]

Yes, this is great info. Thank you. However, how do we stop our neighbor's wifi from overpowering ours? Where I sit I lose connection to my own router (only 3 feet away) because my neighbor has a stronger router 30 feet away in their house across the alley. No matter what I try, their WIFI SSID shows up 1st or 2nd (sometimes) and my computer loses internet frequently.

[@samuell1329]

I think my wifi cuts out sometimes when I'm near a few meters the wifi signal can be turned off and can't see wifi 7 on my wifi analysis with my app on android, have pointed out to asus but there is nothing to do about it the problem as sometimes I can't use my wifi for several minutes and sometimes have to restart the router and latest firmware my internet got worse at 6GHz, Sometimes it happens that it says open system even though I have a padlock on my router, it is visible as open in the asus router in the browser and maybe something wrong with their programming

[@chriswright8074]

Did you use mlo and the 6ghz channel

[@Cemilaws]

Nice video, i will deploy unifi U7 instead of U6LR to my 50Mbps isp speed in Turkey, i have 10G isp in belgium with pro max router i will be using this via web, hopefully it works.

[@LironSegev]

Nice 👍

[@panaoutsios1990]

What is the wifi advancedsettings are in wifi 7

[@jerryferreira8960]

Always love your videos, but must give this one a C+. Sorry Liron, but there's a few variables that taint these tests. Drive speed between each laptop, and activity on the network to name two. Tests like these need, what you called it, a sterile environment. That will give you absolute baseline results. Then, you can mention that with these results, sometimes the times will fluctuate because of variables.

[@LironSegev]

if the time and speed difference was within seconds of each other, I would agree. But it wasn't even close. Also, the entire point was to see if swapping out WiFi 6 router for a WiFi 7 router would make any noticeable difference. It did. By a lot. So yes, fluctuation will happen but that is exactly right. I hate those tests that remove the real world from the test - it isn't a real world test. In our homes "stuff" happens all the time, sometimes more, sometimes less. And again - it wasn't even close.

[@mamdouh-Tawadros]

Some wifi 7 routers have 10gb or 2.5gb wan and lan. So if you have more than 1gb ISP, you will see a download advantage. And in a 2.5gb environment , wired transfer is higher, but wifi may be less so.

[@LironSegev]

True. Always go wired where you can. We must not forget that some people simply can't because they are renting and landlord won't like it if they dig through the walls lol. or because they can't have wired cables all over the house for esthetic reasons. Also if you have a laptop or a phone you really want that freedom to work anywhere. But yes, wired wherever possible is always best

[@coreywhite3161]

Firstly, awesome channel and videos. Ive beennfollowing for 2 years now... Can you please advise what phone has wifi 7 currently? Is it just apple ? And is your router connected to the net via cable or over the air? Im in a unit in which (in aus) and i get 30mb/s via cable and 100mb/s over the air. I bought a netgear night hawk which has wifi 6.1 and that improved speeds up to 120mbs on avg. Is there any wifi 7 routers available with sim slots and good aerial coverage you know of please as i cant see our nbn improving cable services for years..

[@LironSegev]

hey - I use the Google Pixel 9 Pro which has WiFi 7 router connected via fiber

[@PorsheyAragon]

Hi, i have a question. With 6/6e compatible device, will it still be faster with a WiFi7 router with the wifi 7 mode turned off on the router? Reason I'm asking is cause i just bought the Asus BQ16 and I'm having some intermittent disconnections.(Understandable since it's new and it'll take time before they optimize it) The workaround is to disable the WiFi7 mode and MLO. So i want to know whether it'll be the same as the test you did but with WiFi7 mode off. I would recommend people to stick to 6/6e Routers for now while they optimize the WiFi 7 routers. I spent too much on this 🥲 Great video btw, thanks!

[@OlettaLiano]

I don't use Wi-Fi. My network is hardwired via cat 7 cable.

[@MrYedige]

You don't have a phone?

[@RandomYooser]

Im getting about 900mb/s on my wifi7 router, but my motherboard supports wifi6e. Pretty fast speeds. Once u upgrade my motherbiard to a wifi7 then it will probably be faster, but depends on the internet plan too.

[@R.OCK-STAR]

in windows use *task manager >performance* for real time activity

[@GameNP279]

Bro I'm on WIFI 5 should I upgrade?

[@LironSegev]

I would skip WiFi 6 all together and just get WiFi 7 so that you are future proof as more devices have WiFi 7 as the standard.

[@GameNP279]

@@LironSegev thanks for the suggestion. I'll buy WIFI 7 router this month

[@andyross63]

Removed comment as it was for another video.

[@LironSegev]

I think you commented on the wrong video

[@andyross63]

Sorry. Stupid autoplay next while typing.

[@LironSegev]

haha no probs - it happens

[@kinsley7777]

now if I only lived somewhere that wasn’t still copper 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@LironSegev]

yeah - thats an issue...have you tried Starlink?

[@kinsley7777]

@ Starlink is at the top of discussions in my area … it’s a bit pricey, but so is my acreage in Cali hahaha

[@LironSegev]

I want to get my hands on it and test it

[@kinsley7777]

@ if I decide to bite the bullet, you can come test mine if you’re close to SoCal

[@bikeny]

@@LironSegev Liron, I have Starlink, Gen 2 here at the house I bought last year. Thankfully the previous owners left all the stuff set up. So, it connects to their wireless mesh routers. Any thoughts as to what I'd have to do to use this wifi 7 router? Also, I bought the starlink ethernet dongle ($25) so I have a wire to a Trendnet switch. That way my computer and streaming are wired. A quick speedtest on my pc gave me: Download Mbps 167.84 Upload Mbps 16.49 My Samsung S21 Ultra is showing 260Mbps for its link speed. I do regular stuff on the phone, so not trying to push it to extremes. They generally say 100mbps for the download, so no complaints there. And yes upload is not a zippy connection, but I am not uploading Gigabytes all day long so things seem to be working ok. Thank you.

[@johnlehew8192]

My WiFi v5 router does 422 Mbps down and 318 Mbps up. Fast enough for me. If I use the hardline I get 1000 Mbps up and down on my fiber connection.

[@LironSegev]

Great. If it fits your needs, stick with it

[@gropatapouf5998]

Thanks

[@LironSegev]

thanks for watching

[@gropatapouf5998]

@LironSegev I'd just want to say that last time I've assembled a pc was like 13 years ago, since then build a family and lost my geek fire. I became totally unaware/out of touch with pc tech when I discovered your channel during COVID. You help me getting back on track with excellent videos, so thanks again, continue the good work

[@LironSegev]

really appreciate you and I feel that - last PC I built I was still talking Pentium Pro 😜. I actually want to build a pc just for fun and probably mess it up as so much has changed. Tech never leaves you - so get back into it!

[@VaibhavKurde]

Testing the LAN technology keeping ISP involved doesn't make any sense. That's completely illogical.

[@LironSegev]

Eh ... what? Is there an English translation for this comment? What ISP is involved in the lan exactly?

[@GaryV-p3h]

I'm happy with my mifi that I use at home and when I'm out, I pay £10/$13 per month and get unlimited data, texts and calls, I can run up to 30 devices at the same time which is enough for all my connected smart home devices & streaming KZbin. Unless they come out with something that works better & is also cheaper than £10 per month I'm not interested.

[@F.ginroH]

Most of the devices on my network are still WiFi 5.

[@longrolstral]

It seems worth getting a wi-fi 7 router but not paying more for a wi-fi 7 laptop.

[@LironSegev]

agreed - I like having WiFi 7 as a future proof tech but also so that more of the WiFi stuff in the house can work faster with less buffering and less issues for me to constantly fix lol

[@chrisross1703]

The Asus laptop I bought in March still has only Wifi 5!

[@KooLaidStudios]

I'm still using WiFi 5 lol

[@CharlesINTEL]

Wi-Fi 7 is so 2024. NearLink is a wireless technology that combines the high speed of Wi-Fi with the low power consumption of Bluetooth. Faster than Wi-Fi 7.

[@GeorgesDupont-do8pe]

Wait. Never take version 1 (even if it's version 1 of version 7).

[@LironSegev]

Not sure what you mean? Version of what?

[@GeorgesDupont-do8pe]

@@LironSegev Clue's in your title. to the right of the word "WiFi"

[@LironSegev]

@@GeorgesDupont-do8pe 🙄

[@GeorgesDupont-do8pe]

@@LironSegev Oh come on Mr Segev, you've been in IT long enough to never trust the first version of anything (I assume). Ever use Windows 1? I did. Pitiful but pretty. But then, some people like the "bleeding" edge of technology if they're the curious, dare I say it "geeky" types who like to play around with stuff. After 40 years in IT, that urge disappeared when I was about 23.

[@LironSegev]

@@GeorgesDupont-do8pe how about the 7th version of something?...say... WiFi as an example. WiFi 7 has been out for a while now and it's not an os, it's a global communication spec. Read the white paper. So I am still not sure what you mean by version 1 or 7. But be that as it may, fell free to wait until whatever version you are comfortable with.

[@SilentSavage21]

Love asus but automatic dropped the value if this with the sponsorship

[@LironSegev]

What a weird thing to say. So using your logic, you would rather I show you crappy products that I don't believe in and wouldn't personally buy vs products we heavily researched and used ourselves long before they became a sponsor....yeah that makes a lot of sense. 🤦 People are so entitled. They take all this free content with no problem, but find something to complain about the second there is a company that enables us to continue to deliver free content. I am willing to bet that if I charged for content, this person would be the first to bitch about that too😂

[@tonyn3227]

I'm still using wi fi 5

[@alimohammadian77]

bro i think that your nas storage is bottleneck of your network

[@LironSegev]

eh...what?

[@alimohammadian77]

@LironSegev It seems that when you are transferring files over the network, the speed of the destination drive limits the overall performance.

[@shanshelton3551]

Me with wifi 4 ;-;

[@LironSegev]

ouch

[@johnthemarine2518]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@LironSegev]

💪

[@THE_EVIL_WITH_IN]

thanks for the video I have a question did asus fixed the raptor train botnet vulnerability

[@januszkowalskii114]

Ethernet cable is always the most reliable - no wi-fi for me

[@LironSegev]

yes - but kinda difficult walking around the home with an Ethernet cable attached to your phone no? 😜 (actually saw someone who did that which was pretty funny)

[@januszkowalskii114]

@@LironSegev Indeed. Ethernet cable and going around house with it ? good one hehe :) I like it but is very challenging ;) Why i would use ANY smart device? I am smart enough myself to know that i should not use smart devices... SMART: S - Secret. M - Militarised. A - Armaments in. R - Residential. T - Technology. I never had smartphone, smart tv, smart fridge etc and i never will. As you know there is kind of opt out from the smart device by de-goggling your phone but still i will not use it. Rabbit hole related to the smartphone is VERY deep.

[@chriswright8074]

​@@LironSegevwhat the your internet speed

[@JoshThompson25]

@@januszkowalskii114 for your pc, gaming console, tvs, of course but thats not practical for cellphones, tablets, laptop that moves around, smart home devices, etc

[@januszkowalskii114]

@@chriswright8074 internet speed 1G/bits - 1000 Mbps - 1000 megabits per second, - exactly 1024M/bits (1,073,741,824 bytes)

[@IamLookingforWoody_________786]

I feel my 300 Mbps internet plan fast so why I pay for 1 Gbps plan or for more😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨.

[@LironSegev]

great - we all use the internet differently. If you have no need for faster speed, then stick with your 300. Some of us upload terabytes of data so 300 is shocking. We don't all have to be the same. Its ok.

[@johnc2438]

@@LironSegev Yup. I don't need a large diesel pickup truck. But farmers just a few miles away in the Oregon countryside do. Needs -- and desires -- vary! Yes, if you don't need killer speed, why pay for it? My venerable Nighthawk RX8000 (bought in September 2016) still does all I need it to do. Yes, it doesn't reach my fancy new IoT washing machine in the laundry room at the far side of the house, but I've lived 70-odd years without this "convenience": I know when the wash is done by checking a clock somewhere in the house.

[@gregg2097]

If it’s like 5 g than it’s going to make you even sicker than 5 g does, in my opinion and with out prejudice, as I’m not a doctor, thank god

[@pezz779]

Always good thanks mate respect from Oz 🇦🇺🦘

[@LironSegev]

Cheers from the other side of the world! 🌎