Is a pencil worth $2.75 while standing in front of $10,000.00 worth of Festool drawer units.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Yes
@jessemeyle4016 ай бұрын
Got to save money somewhere.
@richardporter62016 ай бұрын
Ha ha so true. Do like Blackwing but only buy one or two. Festool is on another planet.
@billmellon35176 ай бұрын
Been using 602s for several years; will never go back!
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
🤙
@RUM1236 ай бұрын
Got one for you to look up. A Kuru Toga. Do a little research on them at least. Bet I got you to spend more money lol
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
just watched a video on the Kuru Toga....hmmmmm Thanks ..going to buy a couple .... my obsession continues...
@wittworks6 ай бұрын
I only use pencils that come in systainers.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Really ....
@warrensmith29026 ай бұрын
Been using mechanical pencils since drafting class back in high school in the late 1960's. We were taught to keep those 2mm pencil at an angle and rotate the point as we drew our line to keep a point on the lead. Very important when drawing on velum for making blueprints (copies). Then came the Pentel's with different size and harness of leads. Even today I use, out of the shop, a Pentel 0.5mm accountant's sliding sleeve pencil to sketch out designs in my graph ruled notebook book. For most of my markups in the shop I use 0.9mm 2B lead, which also comes in red and blue. I also have a Pica work-a-like with with colors so I can mark dark woods. In answer to your original question, yes. The traditional "Carpenter pencil" is fine for rough framing work, but when it's time to do fine precision woodworking, I'll use mechanical's all the time. However, they do have a tendency to run away and hide in the shop a lot.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing Warren !!!
@mikeking7470Ай бұрын
Got another brand for you to try: Mitsu-bishi, Japanese, various hardness, the Uni has no eraser, others do. Tubalcain on KZbin recommended them so I gave them a try. The HB for drafting the 2B for sketching. I also have some metal holders for the old drafting leads (about 2mm). And I use the Pentels with my Woodpecker knockoffs. I found a great book on the history of pencils at my library, a gearhead like me (or you I suspect) will love it. The Pencil: A History of Design and Circumstance Paperback, by Henry Petrosk. I'll be trying the Blackwing.
@sedgetoolАй бұрын
wicked cool ... I will order the book ... Thanks !!!
@stiniusdahl97896 ай бұрын
I use the Pentel 1000 graphgears also. I have the 5pc set that includes a 4mm. I also use the Caran D'ache Fix pencil in both 2mm and 3mm. Have all the different versions of the Blackwings. Great pencils but I prefer mechanicals.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the tips!
@Sol-hl2rj6 ай бұрын
Square carpenters pencils can be sharpened with an edge like a knife… and it holds its edge loooong! And no, do not sharpen with sharpeners that makes the rectangular tip round😖 U can get lines comparable to well below a 0,3/0,5..and it won’t brake.. Agreed that a small round is useful sometimes, but very seldom. Sharpen the 2,0 to pinpoint instead.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Cool
@plunder19566 ай бұрын
When I was working in an RC design department (late 70s) I used 0.3mm and 0.5mm. But my workshop mix includes carpinters pencils and deep hole markers, in fact anythuing that seems appropriate. The wall of plastic cases behind you indicates your main addiction. How many tens of thousands is in that wall?
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
quite a bit !!!
@FormerlyKnownAsAndrew6 ай бұрын
You hit the mak on this one. ✏️
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
✏✏✏✏✏
@MattHmm-rq6dn6 ай бұрын
I use a pica 3030 in my side pouch and enjoy almost any pica products. They make a double sided pencil that works great with the white lead side. The best pencil I've ever used but they don't exist anymore is the no blot indelible ink (Eberhard or Stanford later model). They haven't been made for 20 to 40 years but you can find a few from time to time at 17 a peice nose. If you love pencils track one down and give it a shot there's nothing like it. I had to break down and pay 135 for 12 pencils.... I hope I mever loose any
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
wow...cool...
@coolbugfacts12343 ай бұрын
If you ever need another expensive pencil, I love the rOTring pencils, it looks like the NicPro are essentially clones of rOTring. The original factories in Hamburg have shut down which is a bummer, but the quality is still great I think. The 600 is the style with non-retractable lead sleeve, and the 800 has a retractable lead sleeve to prevent damage if it's in a pocket. The 600 also has a rotating lead hardness window, in case you want multiple pencils with different leads. Their leads are also fantastic, they seem to be a little stronger than Pentel but they also seem to write more smoothly.
@sedgetool3 ай бұрын
I will definitely check them out !!!! Thanks !!!
@sadjami6 ай бұрын
The uni kuru toga .5, .3 over ALL these every day, all day. I Have most of them and there's NO comparison to the quality and engineering of Japanese mechanical pencils. This one auto feeds the lead as you write so you don't have to stop writing to click more lead down, among several other awesome features.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
I need to get a few of those....
@GoblinSpanker6 ай бұрын
Are you seriously telling me that Pica pencils aren’t the best? I finally became a proper woodworker with my Pica, and you just pulled the rug from under me. 🤪😂
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Pica is still KING
@sadjami6 ай бұрын
You won't regret it! The Japanese stationary market is on another level! There are some incredibly beautiful and elegantly engineered pens and pencils whilst there are also an incredible number of way over engineered pencils with so many addes features, like a level, self feeding lead and erasers built in compasses. I have the next step up nicpro set and it that has graphite and reasin lead options with the basic grey, while the colored lead is a graphite polymer mix. Despite the colors not being able to be erased cleanly with any eraserin my arsenal, I do like the pencils. I have RA and the weight of the metal gears, components and barrel ensure that I can always feel the pencil in my hand even on the worst days. As an artist and calligrapher that refuses to abandon my craft no matter how much it may hurt my hands the reliability of the heft is something I really appreciate, frankly I depend on I for delicate intracut work. I tried the four candy brand because it's beautiful and I have a penchant for pastels, unfortunately they constantly jam after the original factory load (so on the reload), so much so that the company included a jam corrector/repair device. It wasn't mentioned as an included item in the item description, though I'm not surprised.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks ...cool
@wiltonrand25616 ай бұрын
Ticonderoga 'My First' line of pencils for elementary kids makes about the best carpenters pencil I've ever used. Trust me on this.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
cool
@tatum59596 ай бұрын
I have the black wing subscription because it became hard for me to find them. They drop a special edition every quarter and I’ve amassed quite the collection
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Soooooooo cool !!
@I_identify_as_a_human6 ай бұрын
I’m wondering what this guys favourite tool company is. That has to be 10k worth
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
ok
@ethan3x86 ай бұрын
Hey Sedge.. blackwing collector here :) welcome to the club :)
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
wicked cool ... Thanks
@jessemeyle4016 ай бұрын
With the pentel need to click the holder closed when done. I didn’t retract and it fell. Now lead won’t go through the sleeve. I switched to Uni KURU TOGA every time the lead touches the material it rotates so a flat edge doesn’t form
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
I will Check out the Kuru Toga ...
@N33k56 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your pencil recommendations and general love for good marking tools! I think it is really cool you are sharing what you like and what has been working for you and the whys so that others might learn and find something they love out of them too.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Jamesmyatt13136 ай бұрын
How to say I spend a lot of money on tool without saying I spend a lot of money on tool.
@MattLitkeRacing6 ай бұрын
I have the old school crank pencil sharpener. I mounted it to a scrap so I can clamp it to my MFT lol
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
wicked cool ... i got to get one of those...
@extremewoodworker6 ай бұрын
I have been using the Pica and Hultafors pencils for years. I tend to like the Hultafors better than the Pica because it will not roll off the bench when you lay it down. They also have a much nicer lead dispenser than the Pica. Steve
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
thanks..good to know
@ibarskiy6 ай бұрын
Which ones are Woodpeckers little holes best suited for? I thought there was a specific size there...
@ibarskiy6 ай бұрын
Aha. Gotta watch the whole video, eh. Works with .9 for those wondering
@Shannon-v3r6 ай бұрын
A man like you, one that clearly likes quality tools and accessories, should really look into getting some Festool products
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
😳
@mjf10366 ай бұрын
I believe you intended to say 0.9mm rather than 9mm 😂 Yes Pentel make the best mech. pencils
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks !!!🙏
@Marcus_Caius6 ай бұрын
I am also a big pen and pencil fan. The graphite Pentel kit is absolutely awesome. I love it! I just had a look at the NicPro pencils and I now hate you so much that I order 2 kits. the one you have on your video and the 2.8 3 pacxk carpenter package. Joke about hate 😇
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
No worries ...since I released this video I have purchased more pencils from comment recommendations..... Like I need another pencil.....
@Marcus_Caius6 ай бұрын
@@sedgetool Guess what! I was digging in my stach of pencil and found a NicPro kit ROFL. Now I need to find a nice pencil organizer to make :)
@BW-cw4lq6 ай бұрын
Sedge, you are late to the party! Blackwell is the best in pencils. Blake
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks Blake !!!
@garrypalmer50146 ай бұрын
If you pull the green top off the picca, you have a rubber and if you pull the rubber off you refill your pencil
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thank you
@MattHmm-rq6dn6 ай бұрын
Tracer has a heavier feel compared to the pica 3030 worth a shot if you haven't tried one
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
cool
@AngieWilliamsDesigns6 ай бұрын
There was just a post on the Festool Owners Group on fb about pencils. lol. I didn’t think it was possible to discuss pencils for 20 minutes…. AND keep me drawn in. I love it! LOL. When I moved into where my shop is currently (five years ago) I bought an inexpensive package of mechanical pencils. It was like 30 or something. I thought I would never run out of pencils again. Here I am 5 years later and I’ve had to buy more. I also bought ONE pencil that had white lead for walnut. But I’ve lost it. I too have issues with .5 because I’m always breaking it. I also have a measuring tool that I need a really tiny lead for. And… a thicker one for rough wood. Pencils are important!
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Wicked cool Angie !!!
@myk1200s22 күн бұрын
So sedge... Which one "if" there is one is your go to above all the others ❓
@sedgetool22 күн бұрын
Pentel 9mm
@danshort31476 ай бұрын
So sedge made it 10 seconds more into the video now I just ordered the metal marker.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Wicked cool
@SebastianGomezZana6 ай бұрын
9 mm pencils???Do your homework mate
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
ok
@brokenleadwoodworks6 ай бұрын
Never knew about Black Wings. Thanks for sharing Sedge. Now that T-shirt is amazing and I want one. 😂
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Mousepads by Patrick .....Best t-shirt ever !!!
@kyleolson89776 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you hadn't gone for the Graph Gear 1000s. Outside of the Picas, these are the kings of the workshop. I'm not big on any mechanical pencil that's plasticky. The Graphgear 1000 0.9 has been my traditional go-to pencil fine, but the new Pica Fine Dry is likely my favorite now. 0.9 is the best traditional lead for woodworking, although sometimes 0.7 is OK and 0.5 or 0.3 are needed for edge cases. Anything thinner than 0.9 breaks too much when being used for woodworking. The other favorite pencil has been the Pica Dry Longlife Automatic I'll always have a lead holder nearby, anytime I need to mark surface/cover surface before using the planer. I've got a few 2.0 pencils around with light colored leads. Erasers: get Japanese Foam Erasers. Sakura Craypas is a standard choice. So much better. Another oddball Japanese Pencil: OHTO Minimo Mechanical Pencil. I believe these are intended to be attached to bookmarks and held in notebooks. They're short and extremely thin, which allows them to be used in some marking tools that regular mechanical pencils will never fit in.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
wow ..Thanks..I just checked out the OHTO Minimo on Amazon... cool
@rob-249713 ай бұрын
Pull the green lid off of the pica to replace the led.
@sedgetool3 ай бұрын
ok
@DirkfromDayton6 ай бұрын
We bought the same set of Pentel from Amazon a few weeks ago. My wife took the .3 and the .5. I have the .7 and the .9. These are great. Still a fan of my Pica's for my pouch (Sedgeley from Leather by Dragonfly) and my apron (also Leather by Dragonfly). Great video!! Looking forward to trying the Blackwing.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks as always Dirk FROM DAYTON ...
@joebeaton11016 ай бұрын
You converted me to Pica Pencils & Markers > Love them... And, the 9mm Bics as I have a heavy hand!! I'll take a look at these new items as time permits. Once again > Thanks Sedge for good info!!
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
You are welcome Joe !!!!
@chriskelvin2486 ай бұрын
I just started trying out Picas on the job. The main problem I’m having is getting a piece of lead broken off in the scabbard tip. Then when I pop the pencil back into the scabbard, the new lead sticking out of pen gets torqued over by the broken piece sitting in there. I guess I have to rewrite my brain to clear the scabbard before returning the pencil and/ or fully retracting the lead before putting it away. But, shouldn’t it be idiot-proof?
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
I haven't had this happen to me yet... but.... I just drop my pica into the scabbard and don't push down on it.....
@darkhorsedesign6 ай бұрын
I'm a Pentel P209 kinda guy. I keep a Pica loaded with red for ! marking and laser/builders level benchmarks.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
good point ...
@davem42566 ай бұрын
I recently received the Pentel set as a gift and immediately switched to using them exclusively in my shop. Last week one of the pencils stopped gripping the lead, I reached out to Pentel through their online customer submission form, and today I called their customer service line and I was transferred to Warranty service where I left a voicemail. I haven't heard back from them yet, so at this point I'm less than impressed with their customer service. I'm waiting patiently and hoping for a positive outcome from Pentel. Meanwhile I'll be looking into the other products you reviewed, so thanks for your timely video, Sedge. Great content as always. BTW if anyone has a solution for the slippery lead problem I'd really appreciate it, thanks.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
keep us informed on the outcome with Pentel... Thanks for watching !!
@billfranklin1146 ай бұрын
Hi Sedge, your videos are always so useful. Pentel has a type of pencil called Orenz. It is a game changer for thin leads. A thin shaft encloses the .3mm and .2mm leads and it retracts as you use the pencil. I really like it. Might be worth a look.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info! I will go check it out !!
@VicTesolinWoodworks6 ай бұрын
I’ve been a pencil nerd forever! Blackwings are boss.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
For sure Vic !!
@donwight58066 ай бұрын
have you seen the Ticondaroga three sided pencil. Love that as much as the Staedler drafting pencils. I am as much of a pencil fan. What would you expect from a kid from Maine.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
I had a 3 sided pencil once ...hmmmm I wonder what happened to it !!!!
@russalbright42136 ай бұрын
Great video Sedge! I'm surprised you didn't mention the Pica .5mm lead pencil. I have the .5 Pica, the carpenters pencil Pica and the traditional .9mm Pica. They all have their purposes as you pointed out, but I use the .5mm Pica by far the most. Thanks for taking the time to make the video!
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks... I have not seen the Pica .5mm yet...
@keith76306 ай бұрын
My dad who was a woodworker for 60 years used to use IBM Electrographic pencils. As a kid I used to love those things. Very dark and very smooth. I am sure they are long gone.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Oh wow!
@barriowoodworks6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, Sedge. I’m definitely buying a few of those recommendations. Another 💎
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@joseescoto90696 ай бұрын
Sedge, Four eyes just came out with the brass chunky. I don’t really need one but it looks freakin awesome.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Tried to look it up but website is down...
@oldrudedog6 ай бұрын
I use the graph gear .9 and have no problem with it breaking, just have to have a light touch. I also use the pica for heavy and it works great.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Wicked ...
@AB-nu5we6 ай бұрын
I like my good pencils too. I went in the direction of Japanese made pencils. I do have the Pentel 9mm mechinical pencil. I need more colored lead though. Cool stuff!
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks....
@andysordi99766 ай бұрын
I have the .9 pentel and I love it in combination with my Pica. Those are in my pouch and my .9mm refills fit great in a xxs systainer
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
very cool
@trev24176 ай бұрын
The .9 lead is brilliant I stopped using my woodpecker layout tool because the lead broke so frequently
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
wicked cool !!!
@jasonhagen6 ай бұрын
This was a great video! I could almost smell the cedar of the pencils as you sharpened them! I was curious who makes that dovetail gauge. It looks like a nice one!
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
I bought the dovetail gauge at bit.ly/49c84V5
@danshort31476 ай бұрын
Just added the waterjet resistant to my arsenal. Thank you very much.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Cool
@luzzitan6 ай бұрын
Beste Grüße aus Deutschland😊
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Best Regards from USA !!!!
@JurBols4776 ай бұрын
Haha, great to see there are some common interests - thanks for sharing Sedge!
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
You bet!
@markpalmer30716 ай бұрын
I never knew I was missing out so much on pencils! Do love my pica..
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
🤙
@cleonwalters40936 ай бұрын
You’ve enabled a few pencil monsters ! Yay
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Wooooohoooo !!! Yeah baby !!!
@warrenbarnes66296 ай бұрын
Love the Shirt! LOL. (I’m a Green Suiters Fan)
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Rock on!
@johnmuci91026 ай бұрын
Thanks Sedge! I’ll pick some up
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
cool
@przemysawpogorzelec49016 ай бұрын
IMO best episode about pencils - ever.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
Thanks .....🙏
@cerberus28816 ай бұрын
I like the 9 or a knife.
@sedgetool6 ай бұрын
cool
@LincolnWoodworks6 ай бұрын
That festool sketch pad is wicked cool, i love sketching projects on it! Need to get some more and one of those shirts!