Is A.I. a Threat to the Board Game Hobby?

[@pi2infinity]

Ooooh, I like the question at 5:20 about “At some point, if you become skilled enough at ChatGPT that the results are no longer predictable and boring and bland, is this because of ChatGPT, or is it because of your artistry in coming up with creative prompts?” I’ve never thought about that thought before. Neato!

[@theperfectboardgame]

With time, I learned that when you “Google” some thing, it’s not just typing what you want to look for, but knowing how to target the keywords needed to help Google do better. It’s a skill. I find that it’s no different with ChatGPT. The more I use it, the better I am at getting what I want.

[@khiarastales2091]

I still decline to call AI art prompt operator as "new job artists" since what they did is basically art theft. Using other artist's art then called it their own. It's different than a transition from traditional artist to digital artist. The tool and medium changed, but the artists still need to execute their ideas with skills and knowledges of anatomy, composition, colors, perspective, expressions, etc. So does a photographer. AI """artist"""?

[@theperfectboardgame]

I actually think hesitation to dignify those who embrace new technology is party of our history too. In my own lifetime, I remember scoffing at people who would “text” instead of make a voice call. Regardless of what it is called, I appreciate that you identified “prompt operator” as a skill. It is true that you need a strong sense of what you want to create and there is skill in understanding what the AI can interpret.

[@roberttaylor3594]

It can make something that looks like “ art”…. But ya, it isn’t an artist.

[@Glacierlune]

@@theperfectboardgame Eventually we will find a new balance after understanding the limitations of the new technology. Almost all new tech is claimed to be a panacea and a lot of the push back is a collective trying to find that balance point. Of course this new AI we have almost zero concept of what it could do for us. All our sci Fi novels about AI have been an alagory for slavery. Personally I'm not entirely sure if AI art generators will be profitable enough to justify the servers they operate on. It's a fascinating tool, but the limitations may be it's down fall. And it often caters to a costumer that doesn't intend to pay for art either way. So there may be very little money to keep the operation out of the black. We might get better tools till it's useful. Or we might see it close shop. Or we might get it to specialize enough to be of use to specific fields and be one step in making a final product. I think our current approach to AI is too ambitious and broad. Make it do single tasks and design a OS system that makes it easier to find AI routeens for specific tasks to initiate.

[@AnAngelineer]

A.I. can, potentially, be a threat to ANYTHING. But the root of that isn't actually A.I. itself. It all depends of the way humanity decides to leverage it/interact with it. If humanity chooses to give up its power to make choice and delegate it to A.I., backfiring massively, it will be humanity's fault. Not the A.I's, for instance. And that is why human stupidity is and has always been the biggest threat to anything, and increasingly so as technology grants us monkey-brains more and more power.

[@theperfectboardgame]

Love this. You are right. A.I. is just a tool, BUT it’s a POWERFUL tool and easier to access.

[@sultar44]

I love the well thought out explanation. The sad thing will be that the people with the pitchforks up right now upset over your point of view don’t see the irony that pitchfork makers were driven out of business by the arms makers.

[@theperfectboardgame]

But you know what’s cool? There is still a market for pitchforks. As well as snail mailed letters, radio shows, horses, even calligraphy. I like that nothing is ever truly obsolete.

[@Benjamin_Alexander]

I agree, and you did a fantastic job on explaining everything. It got your message right to me. I was really interested in this mainly because about a year ago i did a research paper for my English final. It was about AI and how it was effecting our jobs, and what could happen in the future. and maybe if you're free at some point in the near or far future, we can talk about it. By the way, have you made a Legends of andor full explanation video explaining all the rules and how to play it I recently got it from you and I would love to play but I don't know how

[@theperfectboardgame]

Thank you for taking a look at this and telling me what you think!

[@theperfectboardgame]

I would love to hear your thoughts on it some time.

[@i8aNooB]

I am a solution architect and have done some llm prompt engineering courses. With code interpreter and the world of possibilities it and custom gpts open up. I think this idea of getting an AI to design a board game which is reasonably good is very interesting, I might just have to take up the challenge

[@theperfectboardgame]

I am sure you will be successful, but I don’t know what type of board game is possible and I’m curious about how sophisticated you can make it.

[@diamondmeeple]

If AI can create amazing games. Great! If AI can put together mechanics and stuff together in a new an exciting way, I got no problem with that. Btw, you have tried Kobayakawa? I really like the small Oink game. Played it on the Oink Steam app, and then ordered it.

[@theperfectboardgame]

Absolutely. I think right now it’s at a place where it can help with brainstorming and drafting, but the real doing is a ways off. I haven’t tried the game. Just watched a rules video. Sounds like a great small game to finish off a game night.

[@2dayichoose]

I’m dipping a toe into AI as I reopen my KZbin channel, as a tool to write my video descriptions and to generate royalty free background music. As an artist I have a lot of hesitations about AI-is it cheating? What defines what’s really art? But I do think it the future and I’m ready to learn so I don’t get left behind.

[@theperfectboardgame]

Congratulations on re-opening the KZbin channel! What a way to kick off the new year. In my opinion, AI art is shaped by the request. It will fill out any blueprint I give it, but to give it an instruction that results in something I actually want is harder than it seems until you try it. What tool are you using to generate background music?

[@roberttaylor3594]

It always bugs me when we say a computer plays chess”…only humans can actually play.

[@Glacierlune]

Omg that plinko analogy is so incredibly good.

[@theperfectboardgame]

Thank you so much! The script for this video was originally too long. The idea for the analogy arose from brainstorming a way to condense my AI overview. Eventually I stopped asking “how can I make it shorter?” And began asking the more ambitious “How could I do it in less than a minute?” That is when I struck upon the analogy and I’m really happy to hear you like it.

[@Glacierlune]

@@theperfectboardgame Ya, it's really hard to expain to people that the AI we have now isn't sentient. Largely because humans naturally assume sentience. This plinko analogy may make that conversation a billion times easier.

[@theperfectboardgame]

It’s also more attention grabbing to discuss AI as if we were approaching the level that is depicted in Sci-Fi movies. It’s a shame that we have begun using the label so soon. “Machine learning” is a better description, but I think it isn’t natural to use because it evokes an action rather than a noun… “machine learning computers” is too wordy…

[@Glacierlune]

@@theperfectboardgame True, I find it really funny how the only sci Fi that got it right is star trek. But not data, or the doctor from Voyager. But more like the holodeck where they just ask the computer to do a thing and it happens. Ment to be a hand wave to keep the story going. We dont really have any sci Fi that incoperates a mindless super single pattern seeker. Like we have now and I think that's one reason why we have no idea what to do with AI. Id love to see a sci Fi with this tech extrapolated without any assumptions it will become some genius sentient creature. Like having on your phone a system that can pick out the AI sub routeen you need for given task.

[@roberttaylor3594]

Before watching the blog, I must say that AI can’t make a game because it can’t actually “ play”

[@theperfectboardgame]

I love this comment. Spoken like a true game lover. I stand corrected. “A.I. cannot run a general game protocol.”

[@zmollon]

Noam Chomsky basically called AI a plagiarism machine.

[@theperfectboardgame]

We already have those. They are literally called “copy machines.” 🤪

[@zmollon]

@@theperfectboardgame lol

[@BoardGameCo]

This was insanely well done.

[@theperfectboardgame]

Thank you so much! It was a lot of effort; I really appreciate your comment.