Is a Mr. Heater Fuel Filter Needed When Connecting To a 20 lb propane tank? | East Texas Homestead

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@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
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@ipman4715
@ipman4715 3 жыл бұрын
My buddy heater only lasts an hour from 1 lb green tank.. Its not leaking and bottom of tank gets very cold
@bigphatdawg2020
@bigphatdawg2020 3 жыл бұрын
So will a F271804 it is a 12 ft quick Connect with Regulator work on a Big Buddy?
@marshallolsen36
@marshallolsen36 2 жыл бұрын
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@Eggmanrocks
@Eggmanrocks 2 ай бұрын
Can you use a 24 feet hose with a big buddy heater
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 2 ай бұрын
@@Eggmanrocks I don't think Mr Heater makes one 24ft long but here's one that should work and there would be no need for a filter since it is regulated at the start of the hose. amzn.to/4eUYJnl affiliate link.
@tomretzloff295
@tomretzloff295 9 күн бұрын
This is the information I was looking for. Thank you. I was ice camping with heater problems. My large tank with the hose wasn’t working. The 1 pound bottles worked. It happened with 2 heaters since I always bring a spare. I ordered a filter. Thanks again.
@ernieferguson9513
@ernieferguson9513 18 сағат бұрын
2 Buddy's over 20 years old. Filters on replaced every two years. Not had one single issue with a Buddy Heater. They are the best of the best.
@trenthall1427
@trenthall1427 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos around about these filters and the use of the connection hose for the 20lb tank and the damage that they can cause to the heater unit ( I found this out the hard way)
@fishlovme
@fishlovme 4 жыл бұрын
This is great info! I contacted the manufacturer directly before I went and bought my fuel line. Exactly as you said, the 10 foot hose is the only one that doesn't need the filter. Here are the part numbers, and the letter I got directly from Mr. Heater: F273701 (Requires fuel filter F273699) F273702 (Requires fuel filter F273699) F273703-60 (Requires fuel filter F273699) F273703-144 (Requires fuel filter F273699) F273704 (No fuel filter required) F273705 (Requires fuel filter F273699)
@nickbarrett3607
@nickbarrett3607 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the part numbers my friend greatly appreciated
@durango8882
@durango8882 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Stephen 👊🏻
@Freakazoid12345
@Freakazoid12345 Ай бұрын
Good info.
@nikolaalokin3341
@nikolaalokin3341 2 жыл бұрын
Thank u for explaining in detail u are the video I been looking for . Finally someone who actually knows what he’s talking about
@billrundell2097
@billrundell2097 4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent job explaining the filter and when needed, There is a tremendous amount of wrong info about the filter and regulator. You nailed it.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bill!
@peterharris6482
@peterharris6482 4 ай бұрын
YES ! Mine stopped after 7 days, thank goodness temp went up, have 20 lb tank and no filter, not good. Found sites to help clean heater, will try soon winter comes
@ICSpotz
@ICSpotz 2 жыл бұрын
Most informative video on Mr. Heater, hoses and filter. Clear and concise....I wish the info sources on other subjects of interest to me were as nicely done as this.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@matthewkubik3874
@matthewkubik3874 3 жыл бұрын
Damn guess I'm just lucky! Been running my buddy heater for 4 years with no filter off my 15 lb cylinders!
@viveviveka2651
@viveviveka2651 7 ай бұрын
Some hoses are fine. Others leak the oil or plasticizers.
@AdventureAwaits1111
@AdventureAwaits1111 Ай бұрын
I have been using mine for over 10 years, no filter and cheap hose. I did have the pilot problem, cleaned it with a qtip and alcohol, takes less than 5 mins. THEN i figured out if I shit off the tank and let the gas in the hose burn off, no pressure is stored in the line when not in use....this seems to have eliminated my issue. Even as it was before, i only had to clean the pilot about once per tank. I just cant justify buying the filter, the fix is simple.
@steffiejoe
@steffiejoe Ай бұрын
@@AdventureAwaits1111shutting off the tank makes sense. I’m new to using propane. Using it to run my generator.
@carlrichards5207
@carlrichards5207 20 күн бұрын
Buy quality hoses that are made for this application.
@AdventureAwaits1111
@AdventureAwaits1111 20 күн бұрын
@@carlrichards5207 some of us dont have money. I havent had a paycheck in 18 months....but a country boy will survive.
@soiboughtabus9563
@soiboughtabus9563 4 жыл бұрын
Well, that explains why my buddy heaters only last a year or two. Thanks for the video.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that but hope this helps.
@ShadowDragon246
@ShadowDragon246 3 жыл бұрын
you can also take it apart and clean it. what I had to do when my buddy stopped working, every line was plugged with that oil, blew it all out with brake clean and let airdry
@koreyhannan9071
@koreyhannan9071 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowDragon246 was it a pain to take apart?
@ShadowDragon246
@ShadowDragon246 2 жыл бұрын
@@koreyhannan9071 nah not at all. just lots of screws, take pictures as you take it apart. I used chlorinated brake clean to blow out all the lines, then followed by 99% rubbing alcohol, and air dry
@koreyhannan9071
@koreyhannan9071 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowDragon246 ok cool
@nowakezoneforever6021
@nowakezoneforever6021 3 жыл бұрын
You really helped me out a while back with refilling 1lb propane tanks and I would have bet a Diet Coke I subscribed to your channel then. I see now that I didn’t. I have the filter you mention and have burned many 20lb tanks thru my Mr Buddy over the last three years without failure even once. Aside, I just bought two of the wood stove fans for my two Buddies. They work flawlessly and dissipate the heat much more efficiently than letting it rise straight up or by putting a fan behind the heater. New subscriber!
@briankrahn2000
@briankrahn2000 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest using a brand new larger bottle if you are going use a 20 pounder. An older bottle is full of rust and clogs the filter very quickly.
@jonnporter6081
@jonnporter6081 4 жыл бұрын
Some bulk propane companies don't filter their gas very well. After I lost a few tank top heaters, I started using the filters anytime I use a heater with a refillable bulk container. The little one pound cylinders seem to be filtered pretty well.
@nancybryson5488
@nancybryson5488 4 жыл бұрын
That is very good info. Thank you.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting us know, Jonn.
@davidshortt88
@davidshortt88 10 ай бұрын
💯 True. One of the stainless lines on the inside goes down then back up forming a trap. I had to blow mine out with brake cleaner.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 8 ай бұрын
I've heard this is an issue but haven't seen it myself
@GrievenceCapitolist
@GrievenceCapitolist 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest , I just ran a filter on a bran new heater . After 1 winter season on a 4 foot hose , the whole system was soaked with oil . Buy a good hose and use a filter and hope for the best . Thanks for the advise !
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! that's no good. I've always run the Mr. Heater brand hoses and haven't had an issue.
@GrievenceCapitolist
@GrievenceCapitolist 3 жыл бұрын
@@EastTexasHomestead I used it as my sole source of heat for an entire winter . If I get 1 year out of a 87.00 ( going price at Walmart )got a new one ) I might be complaining too much .
@jaaron2834
@jaaron2834 22 күн бұрын
I recently purchased a Mr. Heater ...it works as intended or as advertised....I find it interesting that these things are not mentioned before you buy one of these heaters.. Anyway,.. I believe it would be smart to have this filters on all associated products
@inferno1770
@inferno1770 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be the best explanation for our big buddy fuel filters thank you
@theociba3762
@theociba3762 3 жыл бұрын
So true - straightforward with the right context.
@scottr4586
@scottr4586 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I was wondering about that. I think I will order a hose that won’t require a filter. 👍
@sassylady2001
@sassylady2001 2 жыл бұрын
Then you will need Mr. Heater hose #F273704. Otherwise you will need a filter to put on the 20# tank before you hook the propane hose to it.
@stevejohnson7354
@stevejohnson7354 2 жыл бұрын
For about 13 bucks, I will use the filter anyway
@bigolebutch
@bigolebutch 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for translating and illustrating the particulate build up /also described as ‘fluid build up in lines’ problem that causes heater to shut off seemingly for no visible reason. Found solutions through Google troubleshooting, but I appreciate so much more your preventative information and instruction. I wish I had paid more attention last year before the build up from my uninformed ignorance was able to accumulate. Now after clearing out lines, I will definitely get a filter. Great Video!
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Good luck with the new setup.
@reveah61
@reveah61 Жыл бұрын
One of the hoses Hulu showed includes a regulator and you just mentioned adding a regulator would “over-regulate” the gas flow. So why is the other hose an option?
@5400bowen
@5400bowen 2 ай бұрын
I bought the ten foot hise after having problems. It still gave off oil and plugged my second portable buddy. Got the Massachusetts/Canada model snd it solved the problem. I still use the filter.
@Chipster62
@Chipster62 Ай бұрын
I have the small Mr. buddy. 9000BTU portable buddy. I just got the hose F273704 that does not need a filter but I want to be sure and safe so I ordered the filter Mr. Heater Fuel Filter for Big Buddy & Portable Buddy F276163 . I noticed that there are a few part numbers for these filters. I think I got the right one just want to be sure
@lazy986
@lazy986 3 жыл бұрын
So my furnace took a dump about 5 years ago. I have an eden pure in the bedroom, a small electric heater in the bathroom and the same Big Buddy for 5 years to keep the main living quarters comfortable on low. How do I describe comfortable? Well, in the summer I'll turn the ac on and at 60. But like most people I would turn on the furnace if it even got close to that. Lol. So I just say to myself, if it was summer I would be enjoying this. Anyway. I've had the same Big Buddy and only had an issue with it after about 2 years of 24 /7 use in the colder months in Michigan. Replaced the filter and no problem. My shut down process has always been the same. Turn off the 20lb source and set the heater control to Pilot and let it burn out. As far as filter or no filter? Their are impurities in every kind of fuel. So if whatever one owns can accept a filter?? Use one. I appreciate your vid and concern. But before the haters start up again.... because they ways do. My house is a single floor with 2 bathrooms and 3 bedrooms in Michigan. Savings requires cost: I highly recommend getting the power adapter for the fan if your Big Buddy has it. You'll spend a ton on D batteries if you don't. Not too mention you'll reduce waste in the environment. I have a cheap little solar panel system which powers the adapter and our TV for many hours. Or you can do what I did in the past, (while learning) you can purchase a small (Eco Fan ) and wire it to the top of the Big Buddy with a coat hanger. No electricity needed at all and works great. But savings require investment. If it requires fuel, it requires filters and maintenance. I stood in my garage all day..... I'm still not a mechanic, but I do have common sense. Thanks for the vid.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
Most similar devices have a regulator at the tank to minimize pressure. But the Buddy hoses are under pressure. So with a cheap hose, you'll get an oily residue (plasticizer) that leaks out and will clog your heater over time. Mr. Heater part #F273704 solves this problem by using a different material for the hose.
@BruceKlorfine
@BruceKlorfine 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this info! I wondered why the Mr. Heater hoses cost so much more than others. I guess sometimes you do get what you pay for!
@Goonies-xh3qr
@Goonies-xh3qr Жыл бұрын
There is a quick connect behind that 1lb bottle regulator that DOES NOT go to a regulator! If you are using the quick connect (@1:37, brass colors, right side of 1lb bottle regulator), you need the hose with the regulator at the tank! If you are using the hose that screws into the regulators meant for the 1lb bottles, then you do not need a regulator at the tank. If you pull up the Big Buddy parts diagram, there are only TWO regulators (for the 1lb bottles), not three! The quick connect taps into the line AFTER the 1lb bottle regulator!
@supernoobsmith5718
@supernoobsmith5718 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I was about to ask why one of the hose choices has a regulator if it's built in. But now I get it, thanks. With a regulator on the hose with a 20lb, you connect to the quick connect. Appreciate the post.
@johnbalogna803
@johnbalogna803 3 жыл бұрын
We have been using the regulated low pressure house for years no problems so far. in our big buddy heater.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
That's because it's regulated. Therefore the hose is low pressure, and likely didn't leach oily residue. Many are not regulated, and under high pressure, thus they leach plasticizers.
@grabby5
@grabby5 2 жыл бұрын
that explains it.never could get both sides to fire unless using small tanks.regulater inline and regulater in heater its like cancelling itself out.thanks for this info vid.excellent
@bobpope2990
@bobpope2990 5 жыл бұрын
wet gas,,, i grew up in fairbanks alaska in a family owned store 60 yrs ago,.we sold pro;pane,ive never heard of oil in the propane till i started using a buddy heater a few yrs ago,my friends heater got sluded with oil ,,so i took it apart. the gas lines were totaly full of propane smellig oil,you cant tell me this thing got so full of oil just from the hose... its in the damn propane. the producers make more profit that way
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. So would you recommend the filter no matter what hose you're using?
@aleischer
@aleischer 4 жыл бұрын
bob pope is correct.
@SilvaDreams
@SilvaDreams 4 жыл бұрын
The oils come from the propane tank itself as it comes from the pumps when being moved from the trucks to the storage tanks and again when it is pumped from the tanks to your smaller tanks since they don't use purely the pressure from the tank itself. For your average gas grill it won't matter as they don't have anything to clog up before the burners fail anyways but for heaters they will clog up the ceramic plates over time.
@BadWolf3742
@BadWolf3742 3 жыл бұрын
So if it doesn't have ceramic plates such as campy gears chubby then a filter is of no concern???
@IndyPlinker
@IndyPlinker 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the useful info. Other channels are not nearly as thorough.
@RossFelling
@RossFelling Жыл бұрын
I swear I bought a hose (years ago) that said I shouldn't need a filter; however, I'm seeing oil in my Mr. Buddy and buying a filter today.
@Chipster62
@Chipster62 Ай бұрын
I just did the same thing with all these storms now I want to be ready if no power and be safe with no issues. even though I got the hose that says no filter needed i figure what can it hurt to add the filter to the heater.
@RossFelling
@RossFelling Ай бұрын
@Chipster62 Update: That heater no longer works and when taking it apart I did find moisture in the pipes. I just bought a new one last month and will be using my hose filter.
@levelcrosskings
@levelcrosskings 17 күн бұрын
I tried mine with a cheap 4ft hose and it smelled of propane too bad to use. I’ll try a better hose and filter next time
@ronreyes9910
@ronreyes9910 3 жыл бұрын
I've clogged two of the filters so far with my two heaters. So my advise is yes and buy a spare...
@micjakes1
@micjakes1 4 жыл бұрын
You are answering all my rv heating questions. Well done.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad to hear that!
@MIKET5609
@MIKET5609 13 күн бұрын
Keep in mind that the 1 lb. gas bottles supply VAPOR to the regulator on the mr. Heater. It is highly improbable that any rust or scale would ever make it into the metering ststem of a mr. Heater in any circumstance...and thus, there is no need to use a separate filter device with 1lb. bottles...even refillable types.
@zatoichi101
@zatoichi101 2 жыл бұрын
I have a stupid question. I have the Big Buddy and the 10-foot Mr. Heater hose that does not require a filter. BUT -- COULD I add a filter anyway. as extra protection? OR would that be overkill? Would it cause issues with the 10foot hose? Just wondering. (Great video, by the way.)
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 2 жыл бұрын
If you want the extra protection, I don't think it would hurt. Just keep in mind that if you use the quick connect, the filter won't work.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
That hose doesn't contain the material (plasticizer) that generates oily residue. So yes it's overkill, not needed.
@steffiejoe
@steffiejoe Ай бұрын
This makes me wonder if the dual and trifuel portable generators need a filter when using propane. One of the main reasons folks mention using propane is to avoid getting debris inside the generator.
@clayton203
@clayton203 2 жыл бұрын
I figure it will catch any rust also correct, I have a rust problem inside a 40gallon tank, not saying I would ise the buddy filter, but definitely an inline filter other that the small one at the shutoff
@thepubliceye
@thepubliceye 2 ай бұрын
I doubt where the oil comes from because I have removed as much as an ounce from the same line. I think the propane pumping system is oil sealed and lubricated and some oil gets vaporized and can condense in the hose. Propane forklifts suffer from oil contamination in the regulator all the time.
@garrytalley8009
@garrytalley8009 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video spot on information. Very few videos give this very important information.
@dave9351
@dave9351 Ай бұрын
It's NOT particulates from the hose, it's from the propane... oily residue to be exact ! Propane gas can have an oil residue because it is a byproduct of oil refining, meaning small amounts of oil impurities can remain during the extraction process; additionally, lubricants used in the refinery equipment can also contribute to this residue, which can build up in the tanks, hoses, and regulators over time.
@scoldschoolmusic1614
@scoldschoolmusic1614 4 жыл бұрын
Just got this for Christmas, answers the question in a short time. Thanks,
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@NONAME-kw3pu
@NONAME-kw3pu 2 жыл бұрын
good to know. nice to have a working heat source... esp when it is COLD. not too important when it is HOT HOT HOT in SUMMMMMERS, but sure is nice when it is COLD COLD COLD.
@waynenewton7076
@waynenewton7076 3 ай бұрын
How about the steel braided hose? Is that a better hose to use on the buddy heater?
@toasgreece
@toasgreece 2 жыл бұрын
wouldn’t the contaminants more likely be coming from the propane rather than squeezed out of the hose itself?
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
No, the plasticizers used in cheap rubber hoses are the culprits. Mr. Heater part #F273704 is the hose you want.
@xrayron1
@xrayron1 3 жыл бұрын
If rubber is squeezing thru your hose then you are using the wrong hose. They do make hard hoses and I have had one for 15 years and still works fine. Coleman propane hose.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Heater part #F273704 is the one to get.
@tylersathern1076
@tylersathern1076 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the 10 foot hose knowing it didn't need a filter, but didn't understand why it didn't which made me aprehensive that my new heater would clog. Thanks for this video, I get it now.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped
@mopardoctor9966
@mopardoctor9966 4 жыл бұрын
Be sure to use a filter if you are using 1lb propane bottles that have been refilled. When you refill a bottle and your 20lb tank is tipped upside down the debris that is in your tank goes to the outlet valve and to your bottles. Commercial propane can have water, dirt, rust, and oil.
@sassylady2001
@sassylady2001 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting that information.
@philindeblanc
@philindeblanc 3 жыл бұрын
Or with adapter, put the filter inline when refilling.
@staind288
@staind288 2 жыл бұрын
But the 1lb bottles are screwed into the regulator upright just as if the 20lb tanks would be so I'm not sure that makes a difference. The contaminates would be at the bottom of the 1 lb tank
@TimeSurfer206
@TimeSurfer206 Жыл бұрын
@@staind288 How long has it been sitting there, completely undisturbed? I'm not willing to bet my heater on that, on the coldest night of the year. Because we ALL know it's most likely to fail is when we need it most.
@viveviveka2651
@viveviveka2651 7 ай бұрын
IDK. Mr. Heater never recommended that in all their literature, in my experience. It sounds plausible in theory, but I see no actual empirical evidence. And I've never seen it recommended by Mr. Heater. It might just be a theory, an imagined problem.
@scottsmith9030
@scottsmith9030 2 жыл бұрын
Is the filter directional or can you go either way? Filling the small 1 pound bottles the filter fits one way and hooking up the buddy to a 20 lb canister it would filter the other way.
@ItsMeBoom-f5p
@ItsMeBoom-f5p 2 ай бұрын
Will you be really helpful if U can explain how high pressure gas is capable to squeeze oil/oils out of the house PLEASE
@avery7001
@avery7001 2 ай бұрын
Hose #271803 will cause overregulation, yes? So then #271802 12ft #273704 10ft Are the recommended low pressure hoses, yes?😊
@Terry-kt1sm
@Terry-kt1sm Ай бұрын
What you said is confusing. You said that with 2 of the Mr. Heater hoses that have low pressure regulators that we do not need to use a fuel filter. But earlier you said that regulators cannot be used on these heaters because they already have the built in regulator. And that using 2 regulators would over regulate the gas and not work properly??? What did I misunderstood?
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Ай бұрын
No problem. What you missed is that the regulated hoses use the quick connect on the Big Buddy which bypasses the built-in swivel regulator. I hope that clears things up.
@Terry-kt1sm
@Terry-kt1sm Ай бұрын
@@EastTexasHomestead Thank you for explaining that!
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 29 күн бұрын
You bet!
@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures
@Montana_Outdoor_Adventures Жыл бұрын
Good explanation of filters/hoses. Thank you for posting.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@joanne4120
@joanne4120 Ай бұрын
Thank you ,thank you thank you!!! Best explanation EVER!!! ❤❤❤😊
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@DarrelWindle
@DarrelWindle Жыл бұрын
I've used the proper hose for my heater. But it still needs a filter. The gas flow was still inconsistent without the filter.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I'm curious how the filter helped. Glad you figured out what works for you.
@thomastaylor2513
@thomastaylor2513 4 ай бұрын
Yeah I have a question when using Mr heater hose should I still use a filter. For the most part i will never use a 1 pound bottle only a 20 through 40 lb tank
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 ай бұрын
You only need the filter when using a hose. You don’t need one when using the green bottles
@buckrockerm
@buckrockerm 2 ай бұрын
How does the filter remove oil from the gas? I bought the hose that was supposed to not need a filter and it still filled my brand new heater with oil.
@atomictow01
@atomictow01 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a mr heater brand hose that does not require a filter and a year later my buddy heater is filled with oil. Im thinking it was either a counterfeit or you still need a filter. Expensive lesson.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
Counterfeit.
@jonscott831
@jonscott831 3 жыл бұрын
The filter is just an inline canister that allows the oils pressed from the walls of the hose to rest outside the path of flowing gas. They suggest you should replace these annually. There's no way that you're going to fill this canister with oil before the hose itself is ruined, and I'd expect it would take more than a couple of ruined hoses to get any notable amount of oil into this container.
@derekl9702
@derekl9702 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarity on the topic, appreciated.
@itsruf1
@itsruf1 2 жыл бұрын
Observation: fwiw; My oem Mr. Heater filter from Lowes F273699(diagram)/ 73699C (package) reads 300hrs or yearly As a retired engineer I would presume some rubber-plasticizer-oil-chem E-slide rule guys say 300 for a damn good reason. Yearly accounts for storage/ season concerns. I just installed mine going fromgoing from a 20lb tank to Mr. Buddy heater AND refilling 1lb greenies. Also using a spankin' new black hose. (no part # but is Lowes. Why did I go all out? Because I'm having newly purchased Mr Buddy issues. It will prime and stay lit but 50% time won't ligt to low or high. My time aint worth it and getting cold camping aint smart. Gotta say I'm refilling for the first time ever 12 used-once greenies. I want them pure. My 20lb may have gotten contaminates from my local Ace on this recent fill but what ya gonna do? Did oils/ critters/ dust get in possibly? Who knows? but throwing $50 was worth it and I can sleep on it. With green 1lb @ $5 each I'm still a nickle dime at heart and frankly re-filling is kinda fun. P.S. I love to huff a little propane here and there and freeze burn turns on matures.
@JD-mv8tl
@JD-mv8tl 4 жыл бұрын
Can you clarify this... if I buy a hose with a regulator I then would not need a fuel filter is this correct? It’s only if I buy a hose without a regulator that I would need a fuel filter? Thank you for your videos too by the way. Absolutely great
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
That's correct. There is an exception though. That is if you purchase a non regulated hose that is designed to handle the high pressure without leaching oil. This would not require a filter as well.
@JD-mv8tl
@JD-mv8tl 3 жыл бұрын
@@EastTexasHomestead thank you for all your great information. You have a wonderful channel and it is very much appreciated. Keep up the great work!!!
@johnq6123
@johnq6123 Жыл бұрын
Just a bit confused??? Big Buddy 12ft Hose with Regulator and Quick Connect is not really meant for the Big Buddy bc it doubles the regulators considering there is one already built into the unit???
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
I don't think you heard that right. The quick connect bypasses the built-in regulator so that the hose requires one on the hose itself.
@Hundert1
@Hundert1 4 жыл бұрын
👍🏼 thanks for caring and sharing 🙏🎄
@dalehazelton-np2le
@dalehazelton-np2le 2 ай бұрын
Good info. I just canceled an Amazon order for the filter and ordered the 10 ft house that doesn't require it - same price as two filters.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 2 ай бұрын
That's a great point! You will save money in the long run
@jamiemetcalfe7945
@jamiemetcalfe7945 2 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. I've bought two filters and I've tried them both on three different brand new Buddy heaters. I've never gotten the heaters to do much more than light that way. Slows the flow of gas too much. Works fine without the filter but only for a few months. Then I have to buy another heater
@craighellberg4366
@craighellberg4366 10 ай бұрын
I’m a little confused. You referred to the regulated hose but stated earlier that the heater also has a regulator on it, and if both were used would lead to over regulation. So how is it that you would use a regulated hose? Thank you for your time
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 10 ай бұрын
The regulated hose I recommend and mentioned uses the quick connect on the Big Buddy side, which bypasses the built in regulator. Hope this helps.
@craighellberg4366
@craighellberg4366 10 ай бұрын
@@EastTexasHomestead yes. That helps a lot. I didn’t realize that the smaller units only have the regulator and not the quick connect bypass like on the larger unit. Your videos are great. Keep up the good work.
@nV_ICXC_NIKA
@nV_ICXC_NIKA Ай бұрын
Is it possible to simply attach a low pressure regulator to the 20# tank?
@monmixer
@monmixer 2 жыл бұрын
So for a low pressure regualted hose does not require a fuel filter? I have a Procom wall heater and all Procom heaters are low pressure.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
It's high pressure that causes the hoses to leach oil. Most heaters have a regulator at the tank and low pressure in the line, but Buddy heaters have the regulator on the heater, thus high pressure in the line.
@billrundell2097
@billrundell2097 Жыл бұрын
The fuel filter is not for the propane, but from the oil from the hose, that the pressure causes, Alway use filter even on MR Heater hose, this is a plus.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 11 ай бұрын
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@saintpo
@saintpo 2 жыл бұрын
Great information. Understand it much better now. 💯
@craighellberg4366
@craighellberg4366 Жыл бұрын
I am a little confused. In the beginning you stated that using two filters would be over filtering the gas. But then later on you state some hoses need an additional filter. What am I missing? Thank you so much for your time.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
The hose with the regulator bypasses the internal regulator of the unit on the Big Buddy. This is because it has a regulator on one end, and a quick connect on the other end. Hope this clears it up.
@craighellberg4366
@craighellberg4366 Жыл бұрын
@@EastTexasHomestead thank you for your reply. When you say it is suggested to place the filter yearly does that mean the filter connected to the heater or an external filter? Thank you again for your time I just found your channel and I’m binge watching your videos. Really well done.!
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
@@craighellberg4366 Mr. Heater suggests that you replace the external fuel filter once a year. You shouldn't have to replace anything inside the unit unless something goes wrong. Thanks for watching and commenting :)
@marcojavbol
@marcojavbol 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm glad, could you help me with a heater? The pilot light turns on, but it doesn't heat.
@DougHinVA
@DougHinVA 2 жыл бұрын
at $13.00 , it may be cheap insurance to filter the incoming propane that travels thru a hose if needed. Some single burners screw directly on to a 20lb tank for an emergency... So make your choice!
@sandi-sl6sh
@sandi-sl6sh 2 жыл бұрын
Can a 20 pound tank be inside the house ??? Thank♡
@johnd4348
@johnd4348 3 жыл бұрын
So the 12 foot hose has a regulator, but the Big Buddy also has a regulator, but your not to double regulate the big Buddy. Makes perfect sense.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 🤪 Hears the deal, the regulate hose uses the quick connector and bypasses the built in regulator. Hope that helps.
@condor5635
@condor5635 2 жыл бұрын
John D - make sense now?? 12 Ft hose bypasses built in bottle regulators so not double regulating…
@andrewmarkmusic
@andrewmarkmusic 3 жыл бұрын
IMO., the heater shouldn’t be sold without the filter. Very few people are going to use the small green bombs because of how expensive they’ve become. And good luck trying to get a filter in Canada.
@jerrywhitener1708
@jerrywhitener1708 Жыл бұрын
I use the the filter and hose after the heater stop working
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 11 ай бұрын
I hear that a lot
@brianterrill9587
@brianterrill9587 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Buddy and in the manual it says to use a filter with a SHORT hose. but NOT with a long hose as I won't need one. To me this seems backwards. Can you explain???
@BikerBry
@BikerBry Жыл бұрын
the Contaminants ARE NOT from the hose! - Contaminants are from something called "heavy ends" and part of the cracking process. It drops out of the propane when it vaporizes.
@jshepard152
@jshepard152 Жыл бұрын
They are from the hose. Specifically, they are plasticizers that make the hose flexible and soft. Under high pressure (non-regulated) they leach out oil.
@mikekeaton6067
@mikekeaton6067 Ай бұрын
How do you find the number on the hose? Bought several years ago. Only used it once
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 29 күн бұрын
Not sure. The best I can say is to measure it. If it's 10ft, it's probably the one that doesn't need a regulator. If it's 12ft, then I'd use one for sure. But that's not 100% true all the time. Just a general guideline.
@Steve.Cutler
@Steve.Cutler Жыл бұрын
I just bought a brand new buddy heater, filter and 6 foot hose. After a day or so my heater would not stay lit longer that a few minutes. I removed the filter and reattached the hose, and now it stays lit. Is this a filter problem? It was bought brand new when I bought the heater.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
I’ve not heard of this issue. Sounds like a defective filter to me
@caseyjohnson6573
@caseyjohnson6573 3 жыл бұрын
The one with the quickdisconnect has a regulator but you said the buddy has a reg so I'm confused as you said it doesn't require a reg and only a filter
@hikerJohn
@hikerJohn 4 жыл бұрын
Oil can come out of some hoses under no pressure at all. I had hoses for a beer keg many decades ago and they dripped oil when I had them stored on a hook in my garage. They had oil inside and outside of them. I never knew why they did that but I threw them away because of it.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
That's nasty 😖
@sixoffive
@sixoffive 4 ай бұрын
I’ve had 20# tanks refilled and the hose that’s used in the process looks as if it could be contaminating the propane too.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 ай бұрын
Could be 😣
@apathyguy8338
@apathyguy8338 2 жыл бұрын
The first 10 ft hose you showed definitely needs a filter. I had one and it still let a dirty rhino refill tank to clog up and destroy the pipes in a 2-month-old Mr Buddy. So jammed up that high pressure gas along with alcohol only made it worse there was no getting it cleaned again. Ruining the system. That was even with complete disassemble. Also every single time you start Mr Buddy up again using that hose you were going to have to turn the gas off empty the line slowly repressurize it or the regulator inside the Mr Buddy will Peter out and refuse to stay ignited after you've turned it on. This includes if you move it 3 ft in your Workshop. So if you move the heater frequently keep in mind you will be constantly having to take three or four minutes out to re-pressure the hose just to get it to work again. I would recommend never purchasing that piece of crap hose. Other hoses work just fine that one for some reason messes with the regulator and is a nightmare to deal with from beginning to end. Did I mention don't buy it it's garbage save yourself a serious headache never ever ever purchase it unless you are masochistic and then you'll truly love it.
@xxgg
@xxgg 2 жыл бұрын
I forget where I read it but I remember someone saying to avoid certain length version of the hose? do you know anything about it?
@Danielcruz6123
@Danielcruz6123 2 жыл бұрын
Ive seen the quick connect hose that you don’t need a filter ?
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 2 жыл бұрын
That’s right. The filter can not be used with the quick connect hose.
@brettrichards190
@brettrichards190 2 жыл бұрын
The Big Buddy Heater takes two 1lb tanks, one on each side. When hooking up a 20lb tank to one side, what do you do on the other side?
@tommcstacker4216
@tommcstacker4216 Жыл бұрын
Maybe just leave an empty bottle attached?
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
You don’t need to do anything. A bottle would be fine but it’s unnecessary :)
@Eggmanrocks
@Eggmanrocks 2 ай бұрын
Can you use a 24 feet hose with a big buddy heater
@jamelcampbell4984
@jamelcampbell4984 Жыл бұрын
That last part didn't make sense, why use a regulated hose if there is already a regulator on the buddy heater? You already said it would regulate it down too much for 2 regulators. Explain further please.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead Жыл бұрын
The regulated hose bypasses the internal regulator by using the quick connect.
@jamelcampbell4984
@jamelcampbell4984 Жыл бұрын
@@EastTexasHomestead you are talking of the bigger mister buddy, I have the single bottle smaller buddy heater $75. So on mine I only need the hose and filter not the regulated hose.
@darlenepeg
@darlenepeg Жыл бұрын
Do I put 20 hall tank out side of my She Shed?
@Royalslugger
@Royalslugger 4 жыл бұрын
I'm confused. There's a regulator built in the heater which is why they don't recommend a hose with a regulator to avoid over-regulation. However, they sell a hose with a regulator (F271803). Why won't their hose cause over-regulation? What am I missing?
@FuckPedophileBiden
@FuckPedophileBiden 4 жыл бұрын
You are so right and I asked the same question.
@earnieb5318
@earnieb5318 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on which Big Buddy you have.....mine is the larger Mr Heater...it cost the most, but it has the two side connections for the 1lb bottles AND a built in quick connection for an external tank using a hose....the two 1lb connectors have a regulator but the quick disconnect hose connection does not....the regulator may or may not be on the hose you purchase...I've purchased both hoses...one I use in my RV, the other when I connect directly to a tank, like when I'm camping
@tangoindiamike9189
@tangoindiamike9189 4 жыл бұрын
@@earnieb5318 So...if I use the quick connect and a 20lb tank with a regulator at the tank, do I need a filter at the heater?
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 4 жыл бұрын
+Tango India Mike, no. You would NOT need a filter with that setup.
@earnieb5318
@earnieb5318 4 жыл бұрын
@@EastTexasHomestead Nope ...you should be good....regulator needs to be on TANK end of line though
@gregjohnson3596
@gregjohnson3596 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help with this one. I have a Mr heater fan forced heater that is round. It has a regulator on the hose. Will that be ok? Please let me know. Hope to hear from you soon and thank you so much for your help.
@EastTexasHomestead
@EastTexasHomestead 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t say for sure but if the regulator is on the tank side of the hose, I’d bet you don’t need a filter.
@gregjohnson3596
@gregjohnson3596 5 жыл бұрын
Ok thanks for letting me know and for the response.
@jasmin8346
@jasmin8346 2 ай бұрын
I have one of those and I haven't been able to turn it on.
@theociba3762
@theociba3762 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview that explains what i was looking for…many thanks.
@rosalindjackson2863
@rosalindjackson2863 4 жыл бұрын
Are they going to put the fans back on the Mr Buddy????? We need that
@SavageVoyageur
@SavageVoyageur 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a big buddy yesterday and it has a fan.
@johnwingate8799
@johnwingate8799 3 жыл бұрын
Have had 4 of these Only 1 works.after not using a filter or the right hose,can they be repaired?
@bigdog7914
@bigdog7914 3 жыл бұрын
What exactly does the filter do? The reason I ask is that I own a Coleman stove that will operate with the 1 lb talk installed. It will run initially if connected to a 20lb tank but will not operate once the burner is shut off then turned back on the following day. I understand that compounds are used in the hoses to make them flexible and they will leak out into the hose under full pressure from the tank. So I have to ask, what is the solution? Do I need this filter, a regulator, perhaps a stainless hose, or is the stove faulty?
@philindeblanc
@philindeblanc 3 жыл бұрын
for the stove, a regulator is needed. One of the reasons maybe, and you can try it before thinking of something else...If you dont close the line then air can build up and it could take lots of time to get the gas flowing before it reaches the igniter. To purge the air, you can open the gas for a few seconds before igniting. If that is not the problem, another issue I can think of is regulator going bad.
@bigdog7914
@bigdog7914 3 жыл бұрын
@@philindeblanc It does work if you revert back to the 1lb bottle.
@philindeblanc
@philindeblanc 3 жыл бұрын
@@bigdog7914 It maybe the difference in the pressure the regulator can handle. The 20# pressure is much higher and maybe triggering the regulator, while the 1lb is less and it works ok with it.
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