Is a University Degree a Waste of Money?

[@unahp.3751]

You need 25 years experience and a degree by 18 to be hired.

[@IneffableEntity]

We need to just start kicking business owners asses and maybe they will start giving people a chance.

[@peterpamlockwood]

in for a shock.......the world does not pay you for PUBLIC RELATIONS........LOL...LOL....you have been sold a lie LOL....can you do a REAL JOB.??.....not sitting in office and chatting to OTHER GIRLS......there are Cleaning jobs....working on roads.....construction work....factory work........you want to be the same as MEN!!!!

[@unahp.3751]

peter pam What are you talking about?

[@unahp.3751]

@DonkeyLips McGeeOr start a business and bypass the bullshit.

[@mikejackson588]

Even with that experience and a degree it is still hard at any age!

[@THEISAAC1593]

Honestly, finding a job is like trying to fit into a club, if they don't like you, you don't get the job

[@dcjohnson2490]

That dude should have listened to Matt Tran AKA "Engineered Truth"

[@ztruth7792]

Exactly

[@phantompage4304]

Leo Wong he didn't get experience via an internship at university which is vital for a job in engineering.

[@NotShowingOff]

He should have applied to us firms. They have more opportunity. Don’t know if he did. The engineering outside of mining is slim pickins

[@CasiodorusRex]

LOL, Most Engineers look nerdy because they are. They are some of the smartest people on the planet.

[@alexbloddrunk1875]

Today having a college degree is like having a high school diploma 20 years ago.

[@nitinkumar7141]

Absolutely agree with you

[@pradeep128]

@@nitinkumar7141 A high school diploma 20 years ago actually got you decent jobs, depending on where you lived. I live in the New York City area and I had older classmates in college who got good corporate jobs out of high school right up to the1990's, and are now coming back to college now that job market is cut throat competitive.

[@pradeep128]

@Brandon Martin Well yea, our generation has been brainwashed into thinking a higher education is the ticket to success in life, which includes parental and societal pressure. The easy accessibility to higher education also plays a part. Also the fact that good students are held up as model citizens in primary and high school and have praise heaped on them pushes people to strive for white collar professions instead of blue collar professions, but you're right.

[@zephead843]

Alex- That's only true when one gets a liberal arts degree. But even those folks can get jobs with "da gubmint."

[@deepblue188]

True. But it's also harder to get.

[@WaMo721]

Who else learnt more from KZbin than school?

[@Casual_Talk]

😂😂😂

[@MatrixDiscovery]

Honestly, everything you learned from Grades 1 to 9 can be learned on the web. I have seen 6 year old start to learn how to build computers using the web!

[@legalfictionnaturalfact3969]

Everything you learn anywhere can be learned on the net. All grades, through graduate school. Beyond.

[@aravindt]

#DIY

[@if131]

@@MatrixDiscovery not everything. Indoctrination is learned in kindergarten through junior high.

[@kimjong-un4411]

Employers want 30 years experience from 20 year olds.

[@Sthmohtwenty]

Joe Schmoe its a descent way to tell u they don't want u

[@Casual_Talk]

@@Sthmohtwenty 😂😂😂

[@kimjong-un4411]

I’m seeing job ads with this bro.

[@rayh.8222]

this is why you "enhance" your resume

[@leifharmsen]

When i graduated an rmployer wanted 10 years experience in web design when the web had existed for only 4 years.

[@Kermit_the_DILF]

It’s just like what Syndrome said in Incredibles: *when everyone’s super, no one will be*

[@hpm06]

Yup

[@prepordietryin9119]

The supply of college kids outweighs the demand. Employers can pick the absolute best applicants because everyone has a degree. So it's like you said, when everyone is super, no one will be.

[@catelynsilverine8508]

tell that to the ones that are hiring people

[@kimjong-un4411]

The HR

[@billybbob18]

@Sam What is gen z?

[@anthonyroberts2678]

A degree is not worth much when everyone has got one!!!

[@magnusqwerty]

The deflation of education.

[@90AlmostFamous]

Inflated grades doesn't help either.

[@chadyaknow5690]

Anthony Roberts majority of people don't have one but it is common.

[@emilys8890]

I agree. More and more people are getting them these days cause they feel the need to. However now the people who don’t have them stand out also.... and not in a good way. An employer could see 200 resumes and if 180 have college degrees, that’s great but those other 20 stand out. And will most likely be thrown away UNLESS there’s something that makes them stand out. But I do agree. Most majors and career don’t need nearly as much school as most people do. I have two friends in uni paying $40,000-$80,000 for a communications major (want to be a writer tho) and the other is art. It doesn’t make sense. Get a trade and or learn from experience. Take community college and then learn more from job experience. If you want to be a writer take CC classes for English and writing and practice by selling ebooks.

[@zigmeisterful]

emily s This is your perception. You don't need a degree to be successful in life. You can be successful by making good money in a trade, and putting that money towards starting a business, or investing your money in other ways. By doing so you'll already be ahead of everyone else as you won't have a massive student loan to pay down.

[@connieclark1123]

That University teacher said it correctly. They are "selling" education!

[@no1x830]

True that!

[@colt4667]

They are selling diplomas - not education.

[@republitarian484]

@@colt4667 . . . exactly. Formal Schooling doesn't necessarily translate into becoming educated.

[@envitech02]

Yes, that's true. They sell paper degrees and graduates that I don't find compelled to hire. I would be happy to hire an 18 year old and by 23, he would've risen through the ranks and would earn twice as much as a fresh graduate.

[@hassanraza-zc5rp]

They're selling bullshit

[@ja0182]

I live in the US. I have a degree and I’m working an entry level job. Most of my co-workers have a high school diploma. My degree is basically toilet paper.

[@terrao4971]

That breaks my heart to see you write that...

[@annic7995]

@@terrao4971 That is so true.😐

[@cavaleer]

What was your major? I think it's criminal that we spend billions on elementary and high school and people still have to spend more money. Colleges are split in two halves- useful and useless. But colleges aren't responsible and don't tell anyone about this.

[@azharuddinansari9925]

In india we have same problem I am an engineer working as labour

[@azharuddinansari9925]

But one thing good in in India we don't have to pay lot of taxes like USA and we are free to make animal farm in anywhere not in big cities

[@JP-uq4ii]

College is where professors make a living.

[@TheAnarchist99]

@Viggo Stokholm then just try to become a doctor just by watching KZbin videos lol

[@robertmcguckin2713]

Vi K Those that know, do. Those that don’t , “teach”.

[@wolfgangdemmel3598]

The more professors cater to the emotions of students, the more educated they feel, the more they are willing to go into debt for the feel good experience. Selling psychological adult care as education is fraud. There are professors with Million Dollar paychecks preaching equality and students go into debt to pay those obscene wages.

[@CDN1975]

Amen.

[@DeveshFuse]

@@TheAnarchist99 you can became but you need practice. And for medical students also practice is on field not in college.

[@southhillfarm2795]

It's disturbing listening to a young person of high intelligence not being able to find work suited to their education.

[@paulwilliams2024]

South Hill Farm he’s educated not intelligent people confuse the two way to often

[@tonyproducer5582]

@@paulwilliams2024 Idiotic. Does "intelligence" matter if they never applied it and learned concepts? It took us as humans thousands of years to learn many concepts. You did not just come out of the womb knowing things. Also, many people that use that same phrase are the same people that just goofed off all of K-12. You can be taught to think more critically. You can be taught to be more intelligent. Always these people that never bothered to learn anything after K-12 always making these statements to feel special. Guess what? If you never applied your intelligence, it means absolutely nothing.

[@damianmurphy-morris1941]

It’s not disturbing it’s called the real world and my generation seems to think that everything will given to them after highschool 🤣

[@tonyproducer5582]

@@damianmurphy-morris1941 Since the beginning of civilization, the older generations have bitched about the younger generations. Congrats on wanting to fit in with that mindset. They expect things to be as easy for them as it was for boomers. However, the US prices most of its middle class out of higher education (great country). Most new jobs being created are low paying.

[@jl2284123]

You cant just stop at 2 jobs and thats it you have to keep submitting applications if there is paid intership take it many who says there are no jobs may nor really appling themselves and check job requirements update resume

[@Entername-md1ev]

Wanted to provide an update on these individuals: - Christian is now a software developer - Claire is now a strategy consultant in the public relations field - Jenna is now a 6th grade school teacher while running a small business on the side As depressing and sobering as this video is, things all seemed to work out well for these three young individuals at the end despite how bleak it looked for them at the time of this video recording. This is a sign for everyone out there to keep your head up!!

[@smwk2017]

What are the chances of all those international students enrolled in career colleges, thinking that they will get skilled jobs after completing their diplomas?

[@shahmeerahmed2496]

@@smwk2017 they will get kicked back to their countries lol

[@johnshafer7214]

I wish this was true for me. Back in 2000 I graduated from college I could never find work that I went to school for. College is a scam.

[@savageantelope3306]

Thank you for cutting through this video

[@Happiness379]

@@johnshafer7214What was your degree?

[@angelsrosena]

First life lesson: there’s no such a thing as “stable lifestyle”.

[@pettesvoicedemos4022]

What do you mean?

[@beldiman5870]

@@pettesvoicedemos4022 What I think she means is that there are no guarantees in life, there is no stability, which in my opinion is a defeating attitude. It should not be like that, in a proper society, when universities accept you as a student, when the government subsidize part or all of your uni education they should have some obligation to find you employment after getting a degree. Or they should keep universities very exclusive and accept only as many students as they can guarantee jobs for.

[@xraceboyex]

Working in the HVAC service trade and being above average at my work, I feel quite stable (: Even when times are hard, people still seem to be willing to keep their manufacturing and comfort based equipment running.

[@jonnyfranco7]

Rosangela Sena if you master a skill that improves when things get bad, or atleast marrying a man with these skills. These skills take atleast 10 years to master.

[@xraceboyex]

@Shawn Huffman I get paid to go to school, get a pension and 401k, only have a HS diploma, and already make close to 40 an hour after 3 years. No debt. Its still possible, you just have to be willing to work

[@cotylopez3009]

i have a two year degree and in most of my recent jobs my bosses have less education than i do .. i believe its all about who you know not what you know

[@citrusciderr]

Networking is extremely important. Its definitely about who you know, that’s how you land a job peeps!

[@at5286]

Aleeki N. And this is not easy to learn in todays world. You need a sort of narcissism to attract people to you. How many of us actually know the most effective ways to market ourselves and go places? Not many sadly.

[@cletussamboy8650]

University is just another business. Of course the education system will try to make people think you need higher education to land a good job. total bs

[@armansa403]

Definitely true in most places of world, not just Canada 🇨🇦

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

75% of rich people inherited their wealth. Jordan Peterson said intelligence is almost all genetic. Everything is basically luck lol

[@MikeAnthonyVlogs]

*gets a college Ad right before this video

[@naudik4913]

what are you talking about an ad? 'Im a student who is going thru this right now

[@prettyrealist]

Right lol!

[@mono8476]

And in the middle

[@alltheworldsastage4785]

Claire is underemployed, despite how much she tries to passify the situation. Her "situation" doesn't matter in the least, you're an underemployed bartender.

[@ShadowGhost-n8d]

Hmmmmm. Interesting

[@2cents186]

Employers don't want degrees they want work experience.

[@lakersphan]

How do you get experience if you can't get a job because you don't have enough experience?

[@cathymj15]

Employers want someone with a degree and years of experience only to pay you a measly wage

[@WilliamMohamad-uv5fi]

@zoom zoom dumb comment

[@bensimmons6149]

Unless you wanna be a lawyer or doctor etc.

[@katherinelong5411]

Actually employers want both! Degrees and experience plays important factor for applicants to get jobs.

[@cobra-wo3tg]

I remember when I was in high school my parents would tell me about how getting a degree and going to a good school was the ticket to a good job. I was always skeptical of that claim and challenged them whenever the topic arose. I thought university degrees were overrated and that a lousy piece of paper doesn't guarantee anything. It turns out I was right. Nowadays, they are worth even less because everyone has one. Having one doesn't mean you'll be good at your job, it only means you've fulfilled a societal requirement. Question everything, don't blindly listen to what you're told, no matter who told you. Do your own research and make an informed decision yourself.

[@jamesmurphy9105]

Whats sad is smart people don't do the research just obey the social expectations

[@nihilisticbarbie]

What do you do now for a living? I'm curious

[@leylamamat215]

I am a graduate in microbiology. I am working as medical representative...hmm

[@atlasshrugged2u]

Well said, smart guy/girl!

[@ontariofirs7347]

Im glad I did the same thing when I graduated from high school in 2015. And look at me, no crippling University debt!

[@emmanickel8467]

This is why us Gen Z kids in high school are freaking out so much.

[@makingthestartup3384]

Emma Nickel Really? How are things from your perspective? So curious about Gen Z.

[@emmanickel8467]

@@makingthestartup3384 Gen Z kids in high school are having to think about what we want to do in the future. Where will we go to school? Can we afford it? Can we get a job after we get the degree? We grow up seeing all this on the news and we question our future and it's scary.

[@VermHat]

​@@emmanickel8467 Go cheap or stay home. Try to avoid going into debt. Pay your way through school. Only study subjects that lead to economic return on investment. Don't fall for the "college experience" meme. If you don't know what you want to do with your life, do not go to college to discover yourself. Work instead.

[@tashante]

I was like you at that age!! Thinking about my future while in/graduating from high school. I took some part-time courses of what I enjoyed or major in and didn't go full time because I didn't want to get into student debt. I usually self-taught myself in reading through online wikipedia and KZbin, which is so much better than spending $200 on one course in college. I've watched people's videos on KZbin about their experiences in college and how college is worthless to them.

[@makingthestartup3384]

Emma Nickel you guys are growing up in the most uncertain of times in the modern era. Jack Ma said: today there are no experts of the future, there are only experts of the past. I wish you luck.

[@inataylor217]

For anyone wondering where these people are now, Christian works as a software designer and Clair works in business development and communications for an architect company. I’m so glad things turned around for them.

[@Manima108]

source?

[@jaycool9480]

Source?

[@daudjhon5403]

source…?

[@samuraijosh1595]

Press X to doubt.

[@qwertyuioppoiqwe]

Source?

[@ZiFrenZie]

'Networking' is nothing more than using someone to get a job.

[@baiaforev2407]

Yeah it's bullshit

[@codorin]

Yeah.. so... thats how you get word out and get hired. Get used to it. Most jobs are taken by people who know how to network.

[@ZiFrenZie]

It's unethical.

[@codorin]

Lol. So be it if you say. Newsflash alot of jobs are taken like that. And there is nothing wrong, as long as that job is in your feild.

[@markpretty]

The problem is that is the negative association with "networking". I never go out to get something from people, I just like to try to meet someone who may share some common interests.

[@sisifina0923]

If your parents, relatives don't hook you up to their jobs or to someone they know. It will take you ages to get a job. The school system is broken

[@fcm9867]

Sisi Fina09 immigrants has better education they get the higher waged jobs first

[@theong9454]

took me 3 years post grad

[@texasgun2731]

exactly. look at every coffee shop all ran by either asians or women because asians hire only their asian family, and women only hire women. look at every donut shop... all ran by indians. because once in position of power, indians will be able to guarantee a job to their indian family. and with a job guarantee indians can apply for a visa to fly over. same goes for chain gas stations. warehouses? all staffed by latinos. the employees are all related to each other. i understand that small shops are family owned and it makes sense to hire family only. but chains like starbucks, krispy kreme, dunkin donuts, texaco... all corporate chains that should have a diverse workforce but dont

[@yeshelloiamsnek580]

@@texasgun2731 There's always at least one manbun at a Starbucks.

[@packwooddoudou321]

Don't tell me that you too have nepotism!?!

[@rebeccanascimento8234]

This is so so sad, makes you want to give up everything and just live in a cabin in the woods

[@schrempskynate8944]

Oh, they have a 4 year course in that, only $20,000 per year. Including tackle and gear.

[@Polarcupcheck]

I hear you. Makes me want to leave the country.

[@iwrotethis4712]

Polarcupcheck leave the country all immigrants are trying to go.

[@Localtuff]

I would do that but a cabin in the woods is way too expensive.

[@adrianblade5145]

Same. Sometimes I feel like going to an uninhabited island and spend the rest of my life there.

[@darex0827]

Rule One: When leaving with a degree, be willing to go anywhere for the $$. Goal is to destroy the debt, get experience, move on. When you become stuck in wanting to live in a certain area, problems are a real possibility. Life style is a choice, and it can be quite expensive.

[@Liam.keenlyside]

Cant be materialistic, my sister complains about money, but bought an expensive car with the most deckout package, buys starbucks coffee everyday, spends shitloads on gifts and keeps moving to more expensive places.....all in the mentality

[@paulcarpentier6285]

Et voilà ! - move at the end of the world if you have too!

[@Bobo-jy5mg]

Dave J Do what you have to to stay afloat... but don’t just give up on your field. Keep applying in your area!

[@jeep19]

And too many people are trying to get married, kids, and buying a house 🏡 before paying their debt 👌👍

[@starbrand3726]

I wish I could go back in time and NOT get my Bachelor's degree. I would have $55,000 less debt and probably still have the same job I have now.

[@johnshafer7214]

Same here. Graduated in 2000 without debt but no job what so ever. My college degree lead to more problems than it solved.

[@SunnySummer777]

Yep

[@Ramxie35]

My family has multi-million business so yeah don’t need to worry much.

[@SunnySummer777]

@@Ramxie35 good for you! What business is that exactly? And are you guys hiring Lol

[@edwardcurran5590]

I went to a silly expensive liberal arts college because my parents pressured me from age 15 to do so. I was brought up my whole life with the knowledge that I'd go to college after high school no matter what. The assumption was that college would somehow guarantee a career path. But I had utterly no idea what I wanted in school. in fact i rebelled against even being there by taking random classes and getting random grades. The result was, I ended up in debt and miserable. The degree has had no bearing on my career whatsoever. I think being miserable and poor and in debt after graduation was the most constructive part of my college experience, it got me out of my cocoon & forced me to pursue life on my own terms.

[@AllHandlesRTaken]

Yes, my university degree was expensive and not worth the price.

[@AllHandlesRTaken]

No real direct connection with education system and employment.

[@strikingitrich7630]

What did you do?

[@samahf1669]

Andre hopefully you learn how to learn.......... keep learning, do what you love, money will fellow.

[@jez5855]

It sure would have been nice if highschool actually taught us something to prepare us on making good decision for our future careers eh?

[@citrusciderr]

Sam what did you major in?:/

[@firstlast_x]

And I'm over here making 140k doing roofing sales and was debating in going to school at 26. I'd rather try to build my own team at this point.

[@nickneff6926]

140k I’m in school at 30 I’d take ur job in a second 140 is good fkin money dude fk school invest tho

[@RK-ve4xp]

@Strange Watch wise choice. You can make more than 100k if you are wise and get into management positions...

[@vito741]

first last sure you are, big guy

[@Pcarnevaaa]

Good luck when automation takes your warehouse hob

[@juanshaftpatel7488]

@Strange Watch you mean you took a loan to buy a house...still a debt slave

[@thapelomaja8333]

Having degree is like you increase your chances of getting Job, it doesn't mean if you got degree you got a job.

[@dathunderman4]

@@NerdyNEET not if you wanna be a doctor, lawyer, engineer, pharmacist, nurse, etc. Not everyone wants to work in blue collar, idk why guys like you think everyone should just “learn skills” in the “real world” instead of going to school. Some professions require degrees.

[@anoopsurej244]

As an undergraduate, pursuing a bachelor's degree in computer science, watching these videos really cranks up my diagnosed depression and anxiety. That ever looming question of job security and financial security really does numbers to one's mental health. Yikes.

[@Ramxie35]

Anoop Surej still in high school. Grad 12. My choices. 1:business 2: Computer science 3: Finance. How is cs? Is it all coding? Hard/ez? tell me plz

[@christianquinones9347]

Unless you land a job in Google, your not going to have a fun time in computer science

[@thanhvinhnguyento7069]

@@christianquinones9347 why?

[@justarandomchannel5246]

i am assuming you are from India, and if you stay there and try to get a job in India as a CS major, you will have a hard time unless you are a brilliant and experienced student. Countries like USA or Europe have high demand in CS majors, so make sure you have experience, do those free internship, make your CV heavy as possible, then you won't have any problem in the future.

[@precisemotion3308]

Dude why? If you are in the US you can easily move to cities like seattle and almost be gauranteed a job in software. Not only that, but if you are out of a job the great thing about coding is you don't need a job to build your resume! Create your own projects and contributions and continue to build yourself until you do find someone to hire you!

[@joshuacollins7398]

I never finished college. I have no student debt. I was always was good with money. I work for a company. I have a house and my car is paid off. I have no kids and I am looking towards my future now.

[@island661]

You're smart! 😊

[@picklerix6162]

You sound like me thirty years ago. Thirty years ago, I had no college degree, I had no debt, and I also was good with money. I also could not afford to buy a house and I could not afford to raise any children. Marriage was out of the question for me back then.

[@joshuacollins7398]

@@picklerix6162 respect

[@themrmystery47]

well the "I have no kids" is the reason of your success

[@Mav10]

@@picklerix6162 but 30 years ago, things were different.

[@Great_America]

If applying for a lower level job, DO NOT list your degree! You will no longer be overqualified 😎

[@roberthalfull]

That's right. I don't list my degree unless I'm asked. Or I just say I don't have one.

[@skiprocker5751]

Big gap in work history though. You graduated high school, do 2-4 at school. Then go for a job. Well what were you doing for the last few yrs??

[@nakia4230]

Skip Rocker I honestly don’t have a huge gap. My gap is one year. I dropped out of college last year. So I’m lucky. I just say doing food delivery or side hustles.

[@alexisgonzales8996]

D J hahahahaha right .....that's what I tell people lol SMH

[@T12J7]

@@skiprocker5751 You can also lie, you know? Not rocked science man.

[@Ohwell789]

I did my degree and masters in civil engineering. I worked extremely hard at university. I was in the library 12 hours a day. I achieved my 2:1 grade and I thought I was going to be successful. What happened. I fell into an 8000 pound debt and the architects took all the credit for my work not to mention being mistreated by everybody. I now suffer from trauma, have to extra therapy and I'm living in my father's house at age 36. I worked hard at university and this is what I get in return.

[@leahv5892]

I went to trade schools and that’s what worked best for me. Simply because I wasn’t that academic. A 4 year degree is not for everyone.

[@bradley6386]

Yea most trades make 30-50 an hour.

[@chris_k8e]

@Sam what about synthetic biology?

[@kevon5397]

Sam go to medical school bro

[@justdev8965]

@Sam why is biology degree a waste? We're facing climate catastrophe. And mass extinction of wild life. Biologists should be in demand.

[@justdev8965]

@Kay R I was going to ask her the same thing 👍

[@Localtuff]

Going to college was the biggest mistake of my life.

[@muhammadkabeerkhan3244]

Justin Keyes what did you major in? And did you find a job related to your degree?

[@Localtuff]

Kabeer I majored in Broadcasting & Mass Communications. Went $50,000 in debt. When I graduated with my BA it took me a year and a half and sending out hundreds of resumes to land a job in my field. That job paid $10 an hour with no benefits.

[@muhammadkabeerkhan3244]

Justin Keyes damn... Brother I really need advice from you. I graduated high school last year. Didn't go to college cuz I wasn't certain what major to opt for. After a year of contemplating, I've got a few options on the table. I would really love some help man. What degree would be lucrative? Electrical Engineering or Software Engineering or Computer Science? I really don't wanna end up in debt with a job that won't help me repay the debt. I'm really confused. Could u help me out? Thanks man :)

[@Localtuff]

Kabeer yeah man no problem. I went to college right out of high school too and didn’t know what I wanted to major in. I took general electives for the first two years while I figured it out because I knew I would have to take them eventually anyway, And it bought me some time. While I feel that most degrees are useless nowadays, I believe that going into computer science or some type of engineering field would be beneficial. I never thought about the financial aspect of my chosen career field. I simply picked what I enjoyed doing. So you have to weigh out what kind of life you want to live. Is it more important for you to do something you enjoy and not make as much money, or do something you don’t really care about and make more money. Obviously the ideal would be both but I don’t think a majority of people end up like that.

[@muhammadkabeerkhan3244]

Justin Keyes yeah bro. I've come to a conclusion that if I'm going to work for 4 years and get into thousands of dollars of debt, I should probably major in something that'll help me financially. Even if I don't personally like it.

[@victorialadybug1]

And these companies claim they can't ever find qualified applicants. A big lie.

[@curioso4762]

they can´t find qualified applicants willing to work for the salary they want to pay.

[@nickel2442]

I am helping for a tech startup. We have hard time finding qualified candidates, because we don't want a grad with no experience. We want an intermediate to senior professional with years of experience who can be a leader in our company, but guess what, people with successful experience are normally in high demand and have no shortage of work. I am responsible for selecting candidates based on resumes, and so far, I have rejected every single new grad.

[@NauticalCoffin2404]

R Z thank you

[@donbarracuda546]

cryslala03 Well said

[@saimanda_]

cryslala03 hmm dang good point

[@selectivitism]

This episode’s sooooooo depressing

[@cecegichau9785]

When You actually think about it a lot of things in life are pretty depressing.

[@BasicallyMatt]

Cece Gichau Thats why you don’t think about life, just keep yourself busy

[@jimwerther]

If you believe it, it is.

[@zheli655]

They live in far better places than I do, so, is anyone interviewing me?

[@sunnydaze80]

A university degree in the US costs too much.

[@imeldakins]

sunnydaze80 total agree

[@georgewashingmachine1]

I agree.

[@21rosexoxo]

sunnydaze80 it depends where you go. You could leave with a bachelors and be under 20,000 in debt if you go to a community college to complete your lower division GE and major pre reqs. Then you have to transfer to a 4 year state school, don’t go out of state the price of tuition doubles, stay in your state. The CSUs in California are only around 3,300 a semester. Not that bad. Avoid private universities, the tuition is insane.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

Some public schools in the US also offer 3 year bachelor programs to help students exit out quicker, so less tuition and earlier to start making $.

[@tayyabwarraich580]

Beatriz if one goes to community college . This video describes their life after graduation.

[@kevinbaird7277]

Kids sitting around the family table listening to their parents and grand parents telling stories of their careers, life chances, they think and are encouraged to continue along the same path, WRONG, the world the parents knew is gone, the jobs with promotion guaranteed are gone, you had better be prepared to work many jobs, in many areas for less than your parents, no job security at all, don't listen to the people who sell you yesterdays dreams, THINK long and hard about what you want, if it is job for money get one out of school, work up within for low money, you have experience, this alone is worth a lot to prospective employers, they will pay you more, you will be in demand, this is better than student debt, dashed expectations, get real for today's employment.

[@RocketHarry865]

maybe its time for a new revolution to tear down the current rotten system.

[@ayrtong6]

so 4 years experience at McDonald's is more valuable than a 4 year bachelorette business degree ?

[@kevinbaird7277]

@@ayrtong6 No way is that true, i love education, the more the better, what i am saying is the ball game has new rules but the authorities haven't told the players, neither do the parents, every student should be prepared to get a good degree, costly i know, but in the short term at least it might not pay the dividends expected.

[@0doublezero0]

Yeah because they are condemning carriers that don't require a college degree like plumbing, electrician, web developer etc. Thus have created a demand for such degrees that they pay almost as well as those that require a college degree. The problem isn't that we aren't telling them the reality of getting a college degree in this day and age. The REAL problem is that we aren't telling them of other opportunities out there where you can earn a good living WITHOUT a college degree.

[@illegalalien6542]

In today's time yes. Especially if it's the liberal arts

[@maxmoore8123]

1:25 if you are getting an Engineering degree, you need experience and internships outside of school. Its a very competitive field and just having the degree wont get your feet off the ground

[@nil981]

Thanks...

[@StonkeyKong]

Exactly, that first guy was so entitled and hard to listen to. He just expected to be successful just by showing up to school??

[@apprenticephil649]

Still. How do you get experience without a job? He got the degree. What the hell are employers looking for? Cheap labor. They would rather export those jobs to India for cheap.

[@thrivinganarchy5267]

@@apprenticephil649 internships during your college time. Being an engineer is extremely tough and takes a lot of education. If he really wanted a job straight out of college, he could've just gone to trade school and found a job pretty easily.

[@TheSkyHazCloudz]

Yeah, this is why a lot of schools require a year of a co-op where you do an internship in order to get your degree. Maybe he didn't select his school well. Still, he didn't come off as entitled to me, more frustrated and exasperated, which is reasonable given the circumstances.

[@JackyPizza123]

big difference between “professional degrees” and “general degrees” you don’t see nurses, accountants, social workers, or (most) engineers complaining, they’re professional degrees general degrees (most B. Sc, B.A...etc) are research and academic based and require further education to work in their fields

[@JackyPizza123]

SomeGuy28 I’m studying engineering too and this really is something to be addressed. imo engineering students now should realize that they have to seek experience beyond the school curriculum

[@jbb2009]

um as a social worker, it depends. applying for a job had been a process of needing either more education, way more work experience, or who you know.

[@JackyPizza123]

Julz B I think the social worker economy is different in the US, but I’ve heard in Canada there’s a large shortage of social workers. It’s fairly employable for sure

[@jbb2009]

@@JackyPizza123 Possibly, but in our office we have someone from Canada who is interning here because she said they don't do internships in social work up there, which seems backwards given you need experience to get the jobs so perhaps that's why there is a shortage. Luckily she also got a part-time job with us in another department so she gets double the experience.

[@HeyItsAvi90]

Degree that requires a board certification/examination tend to have less competition. I have a degree in physical therapy, I get job offers everyweek even if im already employed.

[@MrMiniPancakes]

Go to a community college. Save money, transfer. Good night

[@theweredragon9887]

Alec G some of us cant do that. My major is very exclusive. NO community college offers my major

[@tristanlau1213]

@@SpaceTimeMimic Or you can go for liberal art colleges that provide generous financial aid like Amherst College, they can make sure that you're debt free when graduating from them

[@similoluwaadedeji5988]

@@theweredragon9887 well...you could do the Gen ed in a community college then transfer

[@christopherdelcastillo0077]

I'm currently in community college and all of my tuition has been paid for 2 years thanks to this one program. Then, I heard there was a special scholarship that would pay all your tuition if you attend a public UC (blue and gold scholarship). So it is possible to get your bachelor's degree with 0$ student debt!

[@MrMiniPancakes]

chris 000777 ten minutes ago, I just read about that scholarship

[@r.j.w7924]

A guy with an engineering degree can't find a job out of 250 applications? There's more to that story...

[@OdinReaver]

Internships, etc. He said he has sales experience. Eh.

[@hamzacardwell2887]

I took out 50k in loans to pay for college and received a degree in mechanical engineering with a minor in material science engineering. My gpa is pretty low at 3.1 but I applied to everywhere I could. I did have several interviews at places near home but nothing stuck. I decided ultimately that I should be willing to relocate and I found a job at a place a couple months after graduation l, which is 3 hours from home. Moral of the story is you gotta be willing to relocate and take what comes your way.

[@rilling99]

Where do you live? Canada does not have as robust an industry as the US.

[@jdea1817]

3.1 is not low at all fi mechanical engineering many say to expect a 2.0 in my college

[@C3Corvette1982]

3.1 isn't that low lol

[@ready40111]

jdea18 2.0?? What school do you go to? I kept a 3.3 or above and even then had trouble getting accepted into my masters program.

[@jdea1817]

@@ready40111 iupui

[@StephJ0seph]

I feel sorry for all of the students in that Sociology class, how are they going to get a job with a Sociology degree?

[@Larindarr]

well actually mental social cultural issues are becoming of great importance now days and are of the few jobs non-replacable by technology.

[@seg162]

@@Larindarr That doesn't answer the question of how they're going to get a job. If you wanted to learn about mental/social/cultural issues you could go to a tailored internet forum, not blow at least 80k on a sociology degree.

[@VladGrim]

@@seg162 I have to disagree, sociology is among the courses that must be learned in school, reading from forums doesn't do anything. Mental health is serious, it can't be self-learned. Sociology requires fieldwork and experience and the school deploys them. It's just like a medical course, it can't be taken lightly. My sister is a social worker.

[@JP-uq4ii]

They can get counciling jobs.

[@JackyPizza123]

Gerd Wiesler as an engineering student (specifically IT related) I still have to disagree with you on this. There is a major difference between sociology and social work that no one is addressing. Social work is a PROFESSIONAL degree and is very employable, you could say it’s the applied version of sociology, but it’s applied enough to be employable

[@MultiAnne36]

Son has 2 BA degrees in finance, makes $19/ hr . Lives at home, can't afford rent and paying student loans. And yes he is working for a financial firm, this is what they pay to start. Sad this is the new normal in 2019.

[@Bank_Da_Bread]

How long did it take for him to get to BA degrees and why did he do so?

[@nrlombardi]

@Rich 91 Uneducated comment. Considering, Goldman Sachs hires Liberal Arts, History grads.... #fool

[@V.E.R.O.]

Tell him to start searching for another job that pays more. I had a friend who changed jobs after two years, went from $40K salary a year to $65K. If he had stuck with the first job it would probably take him a decade to get the $65K.

[@jamesmorgan9801]

It's no wonder why many borrowers are leaving the country for jobs overseas and ditching their loans.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

$19/hour starting is not bad at all. That's 40k/year. I don't know why graduates expect 100k salaries right off the bat. You have to work to get that level. A good average white collar worker can 100k in about a decade.

[@Rexda1e]

Short answer, yes. Long answer, yes with debt.

[@JesusMartinez-ry7bw]

i agree

[@1986verity]

cryslala03 nope, wrong type of government intervention incentivise universities to be a scamq

[@ilikefoodcrazy]

cryslala03 its only a scam, if you're not the scammer

[@jerridombrowski6017]

Absolutely not. Read my post.

[@thelegendkillersshittyduff1335]

Mauricio Alvarez bullshit

[@joeblowjo]

Hence why people are having little little to no kids

[@1982kinger]

Joe Blow feminists

[@ridgemondhigh4891]

And then journalist and politicians sound the alarm bell about depopulation, invite more migrants, who compete with locals for jobs.

[@erics2305]

The funny thing is that if people had more kids and women had to spend more time looking after them jobs would probably be better paying and more secure because there would be less people competing for them.

[@temperateortropical161]

Fewer children. Less money. We can't count money, only currency.

[@rensonromp3273]

@Mr Zuck please do not grow your population you white people.. We Africans got you covered

[@bcnicholas123]

I’m shocked that engineering major couldn’t get anything. I had 3 offers as a finance major

[@mark-shan]

@Tuperwear They focused a lot on Mech Eng guy not wanted. He literally got 4 interviews, but got no offers. The resume wasn't the problem, mans just wasn't good enough

[@jbb2009]

sometimes it's about who you know unfortunately :(

[@popculturecommentary1192]

Usually whoever you intern with in an engineering field will hire you

[@matthewgaiser4995]

He had no internships/summer work in engineering if you look at the resume. I was a new engineering grad last year and most job postings required at least one year of experience as that is what most engineering grads have. Some even have two years of cumulative experience. The molding and teaching happens during those summers. If you want a full-time engineering position, you have to have experience, as most of your peers do.

[@barbaravyse660]

I wonder where he lives. He needs to be willing to move for a job in his field.

[@theguy12322]

A college degree isn’t a level of success.its a bill

[@anthnysalazar2887]

KZbinrs are better teachers than college ones professors ✌🏼

[@ImWatchingYou2012]

Anthøny Salazαr and it’s free!

[@yanelabdelkader8186]

No doubt and there is no sick professors who try to crusk you with exams and all the useless theoretic stuff

[@E-utube]

Sheesh son ain't that the truth

[@jordanneedscoffee]

Literally skipped my elementary statistics course and learned what we were learning on KZbin because I couldn't understand my professor... I aced the class.

[@farhanch1606]

learned all my control system course from you tube and got an A

[@StrumVogel]

Go to school and get an internship on the side. I started out bagging groceries, and fixing computers on the side. Then I landed a gig installing computer monitors at an iconic global IT company. A few years later I work on servers and virtual machines. Now I’m back in school for networking. You just have to keep at it. It’s a balance between education and experience.

[@JackyPizza123]

MOST university degrees aren’t meant to give you jobs!! Unless you do a professional degree like engineer, accountant, doctor...etc. Otherwise people are going into research and academia! If you aren’t interested in research then don’t go!! Trade schools/ Colleges are meant to give you jobs!! I’ll be actually surprised the day trade school can’t give you a job, when plumbers and electricians can’t find work anywhere instead

[@dylanbrod429]

Excactly, college/trade schools have hundreds of connections with trade/construction company. The welding program near me has a 100% employment rate within 6 months of graduation

[@mattcee7113]

There’s a huge demand for tradespeople right now

[@LMCEK]

This engineering student chose not to do an internship. It was his mistake. I did 3 internships, got great experience and references. Plus a full time job upon graduation

[@LMCEK]

@Semper fidelis Semper Paratus What the hell are you talking about? Where did I say I got paid for my internships? I didn't. Why do you think it's easier for a woman to get a job? It's not. Forget University, anyone who reads your discriminatory comment would be happy if you educated yourself before commenting 😂

Deven T Sound bitter? 😒

[@justinmorris2863]

@Semper fidelis Semper Paratus If minorities are getting all of the jobs, then why are the demographics for most of these companies MOSTLY WHITE-MALES. Make it make sense. Ignorant

[@lovingnv3585]

I couldn't agree more, I'm in the exact same program at the exact same school as him. Our university has a coop program, which actually has PAID internships and if you aren't in the coop program you are still able to find and apply to the internships. I just finished first year and am doing an unpaid engineering internship on the side because coop doesnt start until 2nd year. It's all about not wasting time.

[@dionjn.baptiste3918]

@lissa k I agree with you because I have an internship waiting to go to college. So yea the student made a mistake by not making relationships with business owners and working individuals

[@Namronnnn45]

“College is not necessary for success” - A Wise Man

[@juansolis5909]

Colin McCullough how much money do you make a year?

[@8270361507]

Worst thing is students are fed into the mentality that if they work hard and get good grades, they will get a job. Complete lies. Have been there myself. Perhaps everyone in the country should lose their jobs and perhaps we need to start from scratch again.

[@dwaynejohnson776]

This is what happens when Liberals are in power. Jobs disappear, young people suffer.

[@SyntaxOverflow]

Participate in coop program... much higher chance of getting a job upon graduation... I do 3 coop terms as part of my degree... and from previous graduates with this on their transcript... I see very high success rates, working for google and such im in computer science btw

[@victorialadybug1]

I've been there too.

[@potatorekt7046]

Jo Gill While you were studying hard, I saw the opportunity and bought A LOT of bitcoins and u know the story, I am in university now but just do it as a hobby, education maybe be good for the future but definitely make people blind towards current opportunities.

[@potatorekt7046]

Jo Gill When I told people around me to buy it too, they all sneered and told me to focus on study that it’s a scam, it’s impossible to make money without working hard, imao, only one guy listened and bought 100 dollars of bitcoin. To get successful isn’t about “working hard” at all, it’s about how to train yourself to think in the right way.

[@warrior_of_da-Tetragrammaton]

Unless you’re gonna be a doc, lawyer, engineer, or teacher (maybe)... then NO

[@BlueIceAce2015]

What don’t they get? A college degree is only worth it if the degree itself teaches you an employable TECHNICAL skill.

[@johnevans7494]

@@zachary007 Accounting is one. I began a job as an accounting assistant after graduation and it fully prepared me for entry level work in the field. You can't get this job without a degree; there is too much liability involved.

[@vjhicks8533]

Well what about the first guy who got an engineering degree. That’s he type of degree that’s supposed to show a strong technical base. It used to be with an engineering degree from a strong school it didn’t really matter if you didn’t have the EXACT skills on your resume at 22. They knew you had the technical rigor to learn. And as far as the idea companies don’t want to invest in the training... well you are paying those 22 year olds much less than the 40-50 year olds with experience. So that new person you have to “train up” doesn’t cost you that much. And if that training is considered valuable, and you worry about young people getting the training and running to another company. It’s possible to create contracts to require them stay for say 2 years or owe back some of that training cost.

[@BusaLova]

I dropped out of two colleges. All they ever accomplished is make me depressed, disillusioned and self loathing in my failures. Only late in my twenties did I realize I was working in the wrong direction. I will never be a model student. I picked up studying fitness by way of part time courses with no deadlines and now working two jobs in the fitness industry running my own business. Barely 30 hrs of work over 6 days a week and I can afford a house, a car, a motorcycle and a girlfriend. Working for myself and learning skills through real world working experience is soooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better than the isolated, academic bubble that DOES NOT PREPARE YOU FOR ADULT LIFE.

[@DarthMessias]

Owning your own business, man. Inspiring!

[@mujtabaalam5907]

What was your major and which college did you go to?

[@arricammarques1955]

​@@mujtabaalam5907 No degrees for determination, mate!

[@silvertarus1862]

India is the largest producer of engineers in the world 68% are unemployed. Mostly Engineer are working in call centre

[@amersiraz7455]

Silver Tarus funny but sad at same time...

[@silvertarus1862]

@@amersiraz7455This is a dark side of India. Mostly engineering colleges run by politicians

[@bennetjanssen4037]

Then come to Germany! 😊

[@db-ui8bw]

Private hospitals, colleges, schools have become big businesses in India

[@shoaiben4118]

@@bennetjanssen4037 Hello

[@Vortexnicholas]

The problem starts from high school so many teachers and counsellors tell you that university is the best way to be successful and you won’t go far in life if you don’t. Which is a lie. Now the problem with university is that it teaches you a lot about what is ( theory and factual) and not enough practical stuff like how to apply yourself to the real world. Practical learning meaning matching what u learn to real world jobs. But the job market is just crap now

[@DJMCNUMBER2012]

True, but the lies start even well before high school.

[@jasono.1629]

True, which is why high school students should consider blue collar career.

[@thaintriguing1]

I don’t, I tell students in my high school class that college is an option, not a necessity; I keep it 💯

[@Phillyphil123]

The market is absolutely flooded with finance majors, psychology majors, etc. Consider this in making your decision. Look up whats in demand? IT, Computer Science, all health related jobs. Do your research before spending hundreds of thousands.

[@emanuels2000]

Very true. Im going to study data science in a few months, most people in de second year already have a job in IT.

[@NotShowingOff]

I always thought that if my game went south I could be an electrician or a mechanic. Not sure if those are one of those ai jobs.

[@ejames80]

K H that's what I'm thinking on doing hahahaha

[@ejames80]

I got an It major and degree, I still get non paid job offers lol. I better work for a fast.food company or as some profession helper.😇😇😇

[@babatundeonabajo]

Not sure I can agree with this. Again, read your post and it comes across as blaming the young people for decisions they've made when the problem is much much larger than simply the case of making a "bad decision". By the way, a degree in finance or psychology is nothing to scoff at. Furthermore, simply because something is in demand today does not mean it will be in demand tomorrow. It's hard to time the market that way. The reality is is that the economy across many advanced countries for young people is extremely bad. Here in the UK a young person would ordinarily have got his/her first house by the age of 24-25. Nowadays that's unheard of and many young people have resigned themselves to accepting that they will never be homeowners. We need to understand this is a macro-problem, not a micro problem.

[@mikew2610]

The worst message young people are told is to get a degree “to get your foot in the door.” Rarely are they told to start a business with their skills. This also applies to people in my age bracket and I’m 40.

[@lilyshah4608]

Listen people! college is a packing order for the elite and the nerds. Then somewhere the middle class and C, B, D and even F student were told that go to college to "get your foot in the door" If you do not get a scholarship, or have the money, or pick a college that costs more than 5K per year out of your pocket you have no business going to college in the first place and complain later why you are broke. I chose a low paying job with a 3.8 GPA and a full ride scholarship no one advised me on that and no one told me to start my own business, entrepreneurship is not a skill you learn it's a risk you take. I needed my low paying job first to save enough capital, It takes money to make money. Without college I would not be as successful as I am now, there is a difference between a college educated person and a non college educated person, if you really did go there to learn and improve on yourself if you want to pursue college and make it worth your wild don’t major in liberal arts and seek careers that are in high demand (STEM)

[@baiaforev2407]

I know. You can use your skills and start a business or company. Don't just think about being an employee

[@baiaforev2407]

I know. You can use your skills and start a business or company. Don't just think about being an employee

[@MrToryhere]

The woman who worked behind the bar almost saw the truth. Life isn’t about getting a job. It’s about building economic and social wealth. For too long we’ve taught people that all they have to do to be happy is be an employee. But in reality most people in work want to spend as little time working for as much salary as possible, whilst complaining about the boss. The ultimate aim for the top students should be to work for themselves in something they like. They need to build a business, whether it be as a doctor, a lawyer, a tradesman, a hairdresser or a Hollywood actress. Thinking that you can be an employee and have an income greater than the average is a mistake. Yes you may have to work hard for a few years as someone else’s employee when you start out, but you should learn about presenting yourself not as a worker, but as a commercial proposition. You have to create a role for yourself, by showing others how you can make money for them. The woman in this video who is a teacher is obviously so hung up on what things should be like, that she can’t refocus on making things better for herself. She needs to look at ways of making money, not dream about how it would be wonderful if she was a tenured professor. Stop asking the wrong questions and you will stop getting the wrong answers.

[@nattybynature1262]

Very very well said. I salute you!

[@cat-lw6kq]

I worked for AT&T as a tech and loved the job, I like helping customers and the travel. and we get paid really well.

[@carldavidweb]

Very well said!

[@fernandoh3002]

I’m real mad because i went to a 4 year college and was not able to find a stable career how upsetting I believe Trade schools are the way to go.

[@luckilew]

Trades are where it's at. You spend all that time in college just to work for someone who didn't go.

[@Hisham23633]

Trades is the reason people go to university. Young men like myself work for 2 days in the blistering canadian cold as construction workers and say to them selves never again. I had to hide behind a light post from the wind chill. Life is so unfair.

[@conchobar]

Ever looked at the cost of Trade Schools? In the US, they cost as much as state university.

[@everythingeverywhere-r1c]

@@conchobar where? every trade school I've heard of is paid for through the apprenticeship of the company you're working for.

[@devonhill7394]

Yeah Whatever there is actually three paths. 1. Union apprenticeship which is 5 years all paid by the union. And exchange you swear an oath to be and up hold union values. Difficult to get into and application process is about one year to six months. 2. Pre apprenticeships program that an employee sends you to while you work for them your employer pays for this school. Also difficult because employers want to invest their money into someone who has some knowledge of a trade. 3. Private trade school the easy path get to into a trade. You pay out of your own pocket or get a loan from the government. It’s normally 6 month - 1 year program. It puts you ahead of other people without any experience school or on the field.

[@Pcarnevaaa]

Trade jobs require connections. That isn't something you can just walk into.

[@snakeboy7963]

I think the problem Christian is having with these jobs at delis and Staples is he's "overqualified". Basically, these places are looking at his resume, seeing a degree in mechanical engineering, and reasoning that as soon as this guy lands a mechanical engineering job, he's gonna leave, and they have to hire a new employee, train them, give them benefits, etc. so it's ultimately a waste to hire him when there are people who need those jobs and are going to stay at those jobs and be committed to them. They don't want deli slicers, they want future managers and franchise owners. Messed up, I know. But it's an explanation.

[@fetchstixRHD]

It's the most likely explanation of why he's finding it difficult. I know of someone who had the exact same problem, who couldn't find work because they were seen as overqualified for the position, and to be honest I can't blame the companies for it- you don't want to spend money on training someone who'll most likely disappear when(/if) they find something better, when you can just spend that money on someone who is unlikely to leave for some time.

[@FelipeUebio]

Why do you have this picture, Snake Boy?

[@Great_America]

Correct.

[@ShadowGhost-n8d]

That's part of it. Plus, these days workplaces want those who stand out not stuck in a box. A bachelor's degree is far too common nowadays. As are master's degree. So one has to have something that's asset to the workforce i.e arts, media, entertainment, performing, sports industries require more than education, training, experiences, merits, values in specialized competitive fields.

[@Optical78]

I went to college for about 2 months, dropping out was one of the best decisions I've made.

[@terriblelottery]

OPTIC nerve what do you do now? If you don’t mind me asking.

[@chris_k8e]

It seems...

[@LoveByte775]

Alfred M I dropped out of college and got a retail job making $18.30 an hour. It isn’t great, but I know people who have bachelors and make $14-15. Keep jumping to whatever conclusions you want to though boomer.

[@SkyyPiano]

@Ceylon Blue My BIL does biochemistry, and he is 26 and makes way more than $40K. IDK who told you that information.

[@Alexander_Byrne]

A STEM degree like electrical engineering is a good investment, but the liberal arts... Not so much.

[@ouimetco]

I love my philosophy degree and would not trade it for a stem degree.

[@jaycool9480]

True, but not everybody has that kind juice in them. Engineering is one of the hardest majors to get and not everybody likes Calculus, Physics, and chemistry like that.

[@pranavpillai7778]

@@ouimetco great pint. Liberal arts degrees are not as bad as people think. It can work if you had a solid plan. I’m going to go to law school .

[@canadiannavigator3346]

University: Adult Daycare Trade School: Priceless

[@petergriffin1387]

Septimus Severus Got a masters degree myself in criminal justice theory and couldn’t land a job went to a trade school to be a welder and doing pretty okay for myself.

[@wokeeye6441]

Listen Septimus Severus, an emperor is too high born to be involving himself in carpentry.

[@johnpearce9891]

Yep

[@sorzin2289]

An increase in attendance at trade schools means more welders, which means a larger labor pool to pick from which means more unemployed welders. If people followed your advice CBC would end up doing a story on whether trade school is worth it.

[@temple7dialectic477]

Heavy equipment operator here. I got food, shelter, a group of investments, full benefits, nice vehicles. And healthy kids, and date nights with a wife that has put up with me for 15yrs. Trades= solid income in 2 years or less.

[@david7v530]

forget University, forget finding a job, WORK FOR YOURSELF

[@tabularasa9576]

David 7v you still need to find customers

[@dcjohnson2490]

Right! So basically, pick your poison.

[@bonappetit822]

No money, no business

[@nickel2442]

David 7v I did work myself since graduating. I have been self employed in 2 small businesses I own and make pretty good money. But, working for yourself is a hit and miss. You need to be really good at something that other people want. Normally it takes experience working in a company for years to get it. I took approximately 2 years off of undergrad to join a company and that's how I got my experience. It was a fluke.

[@ElevateResumeDesign]

Amen

[@cc3184]

I'm so glad I went to nursing school. Had a job immediately after graduating.

[@jfish032]

lol, k

[@nealangelethy272]

Ik u did. Everybody know that's a field that need the ppl

[@Twitter_Posts]

Lol k

[@cc3184]

@@jfish032 ok what?

[@jfish032]

@@cc3184 okay, you're glad you went to nursing

[@atlasshrugged2u]

*810 people are still hoping their degree will bring them something they're never going to get...*

[@dadt8009]

Don't pick the courses that have the word "advanced", "international", "modern" or "political" in their names.

[@Twitter_Posts]

dadt or “studies”

[@zanir2387]

I have a very serious question: how good is the arts career? i'm not talking about liberal arts but humoristic arts like those guys who illustrate books for childs or do conceptual art for series/movies....

[@sunway1374]

@@zanir2387 This is a good career. Most probably work as free lance although they have regular clients. The problem as in many fields is competition (too many people who are very good). The creative industries and publishers also tend to be based in big and expensive cities. Despite the internet, if you are not living in these cities there is a lower chance your work is being noticed.These days a lot of art work in the areas you mentioned are created digitally, even on tablets. I think you can take some courses and learn these techniques yourself if you are not already familiar. I won't suggest going for a university degree for this. Unless you know that university/degree has a guaranteed link to employment (like some in LA for eg).

[@xPussySlayerx69420]

advanced data structures and algorithms

[@alexphilipose1351]

@@Twitter_Posts actuarial studies is fine

[@imrana3618]

I wouldn’t say college is totally worthless. You can learn the same subject from a community college vs. a top university. I took one accounting course in jr. college and started from the bottom by opening mail for a fortune 500 company. By working hard, i moved up the ladder. Now im a jr. acct and make close to 6 figures. They sell you a college dream kinda like a salesman selling you a new car. You don’t need a maserati to go from point A to point B. You can do that in a used corolla as well. Also be responsible and use some common sense

[@rodeogirl8459]

fantastic comment!

[@BeckySmith-li1fe]

I liked the example makes sense

[@MrMiniPancakes]

Imran A accounting is a well worth it major.

[@victorledezma6652]

Can’t wait to see what you’re gonna do when they phase you out.

[@grapefives7762]

Is the work in the mail room build yourself up thing well still a thing?

[@mph5896]

A degree is a tool used to help people to get somewhere, a TOOL. ITs not a guarantee to a job/career. Be smart about your degree and you will succeed. You need to provide value to a company, not just a warm entitled body to fill a seat.

[@ready40111]

m ph YUP. It is like dating basically. A degree is just a boy/girl - what that person posses and the values they have make you want to date them. A degree is just a helping hand to help someone get a better job if an employers like what they’re bringing to the table.

[@0doublezero0]

Back when the baby boomers and early gen Xers got their degrees their job opportunities were far more abundant because of it, because not everybody had a college degree. However, when you tell an entire generation that you need a degree it deflates the value. So job that may not have even needed a degree to do now indirectly require it and has not only getting a job more difficult but has made it an expensive endeavor.

[@CaseyMiddlecoff]

Thats the problem though. My entire generation was raised on the idea that a college degree WOULD provide a good job and stable career. And it's complete bullshit.

[@_Alimm]

If you're paying hundreds and thousands of dollars it should be a guarantee that you'll find a job to survive.

[@CaseyMiddlecoff]

@WinterGirl If you are buying real estate go with mini storages, small rent houses, or anything you can lease. Homes are so expensive most people just choose to rent. Mini storages are always full and leased ground will always make you money. To not be broke like a consumer you have to think like a producer.

[@rcppop3090]

My employee makes $30 an hour and has worked for me for 14 months. He’s 22 years old with a high school diploma and a strong work ethic. I trained him to operate all the concrete pumps we own and paid for him to get his Class A license. He and his wife just had their second baby and bought their first house just outside of Sacramento Ca. He has not hit his wage ceiling either. He started working for me making $20 an hour. You don’t need a degree to survive in 2020 you just can’t be afraid of working hard. Lord knows my education is poor! Haha High School GED recipient here and 15 years self employed!

[@ivyrainbitch]

Rcp 916 can I apply to your job

[@IsomerMashups]

"I trained him to" is a phrase I love to hear from employers. It seems like too many have forgotten that school gives people theory, not practice. You can't expect someone to have 8+ years of experience for an entry-level job.

[@colonelgraff9198]

And how many college graduates have you hired? My guess: Zero. You don’t want to hire anyone that looks smarter than you. Ergo, you aren’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

[@adaml5851]

@@colonelgraff9198 If he doesn't hire people with education, and there is no reason to think he wouldn't, I bet its because he would be worried about hiring some lazy snob who acts just as entitled as you do while adding little to no value to his business... people like you are the problem.

[@norcoextreme666]

I rather hire someone with a strong work ethic and high school diploma, cause that individual has the drive to grow and learn. Most graduates and students are clueless. They think diplomas and degrees guarantee jobs. Look at all the university and college dropouts making lots of money working hard. Just work hard and people like employers and co workers will take the time to help you achieve.

[@justinlucas5422]

I hate the saying "its not what you know..its who you know"

[@naturallydope6971]

Justin Lucas fact!

[@justinlucas5422]

Chadwicked B theyyyyy tookkkkk our jobbbb! 😂

[@franzenricocruz3398]

I agree.

[@kayb3327]

Justin Lucas it's the truth

[@Thomzz95]

Yep. Even a ba degree won’t help you if you don’t have good connections.

[@prettyhollypolly7553]

This makes me think that the reality is to be entrepreneurial minded. It’s scary to see people with college degrees on the street. If you have an idea, use it and go ahead with it!

[@rackets7991]

Enlist. The military offers training & experience that business cant get enough of....Businesses grab up former military in a heartbeat..Mature, responsible, reliable and results oriented. No maybe its "can do"

[@ncg8224]

@@rackets7991 Explain why there are so many homeless veterans if that's the case?

[@aidynbain1856]

@@ncg8224 Depends on the military trade they took

[@leedaniels7196]

Ding,Ding,Ding!.You are the Winner!.You guessed it!.

[@ncg8224]

@@aidynbain1856 No matter what position you took in the military. Maturity, responsibility, reliability and being results oriented is a BASIC standard. Veterans know this more then anybody, and if they are homeless on the streets that's a bad sign.

[@callmedave1280]

Im in business school and almost done with my MBA. I have a job lined up for after I graduate. The biggest mistake I made as an undergraduate was not interning, networking, or all the essential job hunt activities outside the classroom. Many people make the mistake of assuming the job comes with the degree, where the degree is really just a foot in the door. I'm glad I performed well on the standardized tests and was able to finance my education without loans.

[@benfranklin3638]

20-30 years ago when fewer people got degrees...and even fewer got advanced degrees...they jobs were lined up. People from good schools with decent grades usually got multiple offers.

[@ssj4david]

Well said. These were things I wish I knew. I didn't intern and back in 2011, I finally got my first temp job out of school at $12 an hour, and that's a year after I finished my BBA in Accounting. Happy to say, I'm currently a homeowner in Toronto, but it really has been a journey. Just don't lose focus and work smart

[@oldtwinsna8347]

@@benfranklin3638 They still do at top schools. An electrical engineering grad at Stanford will have tons of companies contacting them. The same major student at No-Name college will have zero.

[@applemyomg]

Could you still intern and network right now at the end of your mba? Managing good grades, jobs, interning, networking, volunteering- my heart pounded nonstop remembering how high stress that was. Never ending exhaustion and backpain. You prioritized and only picked grades and job. That's fine.

[@linnm3605]

Agreed! I'm a people manger and I don't like to hire fresh graduates without any intern experience.

[@sojohnny....8824]

To be honest education should less expensive ; reason being everything is on the internet, liberary. Education is watered down anyway.

[@Baseshocks]

When i was in school electives were mandatory and one elective was a online course "gardening", they don't care what you take they just want your money. School should focus directly on the course all these gen eds are a waste of money.

[@jasonlee6227]

@@Baseshocks I agree. They make you take those courses and keep you in school longer so that they can suck more tuition money out of you. If they were to cut out the classes you didn't need you would be able to graduate a lot sooner, with less debt or money spent.

[@ameliawilder28]

@@Baseshocks yes! I hate taking writ and gen ed when I want to focus on my program

[@tinytownsoftware7989]

Get government money out of education and the price will go down.

[@goran797]

If it was cheaper even more people would clog the job boards with degrees. It's crazy. Other than hiring managers at giant corporations(where you are a number and will get laid off regardless of skill or value), most employers now a days look at someone that is degreed up as too expensive and demanding.

[@kjh311]

Colleges should only get paid if you land a job in your major

[@khumothage4629]

You are on to something.

[@Hoffmanpack]

The College would just turn into the Job Dumbass Have Fun Owing your boss Money to work.

[@mksabourinable]

God this comment is so American. In Canada (which is where this video is from) the colleges are the good guys, the universities are rip offs. The colleges have employment rates of like. 70-98% depending on the program. WITHIN THE FIRST 6-9MO. There's literally even a common saying here: "you go to university to get a degree, you go to college to get a job." Like university is academia, college is hands on training. No wonder the college graduates are getting the jobs. (Also colleges offer WAY more services and are a fraction of the cost)

[@fcm9867]

Jobs are not paying enough to cover student loans and keeping a vehicle too

[@NotShowingOff]

No. That would basically be a training program or scholarship. It would be extremely competitive, and the colleges still need to make money. So the number of colleges would drop. It’s better if college is simply subsidized by govt.

[@hhiippiittyy]

I work in the trades. Most job adverts in the field are for 2nd or 3rd year apprentices, or more. Nobody wants to sign up kids, they just want kids already trained. Companies need to step up.

[@journeymanreefer6252]

hhiippiittyy I know how you feel. you basically must start as labourer. i got a lucky break. started as basically labourer in a mom and pop heating company. they didn't sign me on as apprentice but it get me in. 4 companies and 8 years later I have both of my journeymen in 2 trades.

[@truthspace5525]

hhiippiittyy Nobody wants to train people who leave for more money instead of continuing with companies that signed them up.

[@tach1794]

hhiippiittyy the same.

[@brianhicks6637]

I'm in the union trades, and it's mostly teenage kids that are getting hired new.

[@brianhicks6637]

Yeah. I'm in Liuna in the US, and my local has a lot of boy in their late teens and early twenties. I'm on 24. So I don't know about the truth of them not taking on kids.

[@CoffeeTroll]

I have a bachelors degree in Math/Computing Science, a Teaching certificate, and a diploma and certificate in Traditional and Computer animation. I am now a ROOFER running my own business and doing great. Life and opportunity lead you in strange directions. Keep your eyes open!!! I don't regret any of my educational decisions. Pay off your debts, have a family, and get on with it.

[@EANNE1000]

Education is never wasted even if things don't happen quite the way you expect. That said, it's a tough road sometimes. Keep putting one foot after the other.

[@user-bm6wu9zw9m]

A buddy of mine went to welding school and now does something totally different, he does home remodeling.

[@jimmereid246]

My friend studied sales then couldn’t get a job and stated selling drugs in night clubs, he was told one day by some guy he was trying to sell to, to go home and rethink his life and now he is an engineer on a fully armed and operational battle station !!!!

[@jeanm.9570]

Jimmè Reid Does he still sell drugs at the nightclub tho???

[@johnd6302]

Multiple Assets STream Earning Residuals (MASTER) or Students Learning A Volaction Earning Salary (SLAVES)

[@ilovecali4ever]

The only thing to mention, after completing university it took me about 3 years to land a full time job in my field. 9 months isn't long enough. Even in the 80's when my mother completed her degree, it took her 2 years to find a job. It's one of those things that it may take a while to land that career based on the university degree.

[@LayJohnsonTV]

Not even gonna watch the video but I just read the title “is a university degree a waste of money” and I’m here to provide an answer.... YES!

[@ajanimandara9137]

💀😭

[@bensimmons6149]

Not for lawyers or doctors

[@Obiterarbiter]

Statistically you are correct, but there are many caveats. Underemployment is really high among millennials and the job market is really competitive. I think people are correct in questioning the merit of their education.

[@daniellewilliamson8512]

SharkTank no even people who go to college still don’t know a lot of stuff plus College is a waste of time anyway

[@daniellewilliamson8512]

Josh M lol ok but still even tho if you t a college degree you still wouldn’t know what to do so it’s better to figure out other opportunities without College lol

[@00Noontide]

"I'm offended when people say I'm underemployed"

[@atithi8]

Sums up a lot of people. Why can't you admit you're underemployed and then work your way thru. Although I really loved the way she looked at her job but didn't understand the offense part

[@BriaBarrows]

Lol her degree is talking like girl it’s the facts

[@NisahPooh]

Will your major give you a return in your investment? That is the question that every freshman entering college should ask.

[@Hoffmanpack]

90% of Mothers Gauranteed to say GO To College to their 17 yr old kids

[@cbl6520]

Its the same question I asked when I started college in my early twenties. I chose to major in nursing and walked away from college debt free due to having taken my time going through school and paying for it bit by bit. All in all, it took 7 1/2 years to get my associates degree, but I've had numerous offers with starting pay as high as $35 an hour! I'm currently awaiting an interview for a residency at my local hospital, which starts you off at $32 an hour. Overall, I'd say the return on investment was very good and I'm glad I started at a community college, as it saved me tens of thousands of dollars. I'll be starting my bachelors degree in nursing next year and its only going to cost $6000.

[@schrempskynate8944]

And yet you get could a better starting wage in any trade with 5 1/2 less years spent in a classroom and putting money in your pocket the entire time.

[@goodgirlkay]

Why are schools allowed to take money and give out garbage degrees that are useless in the real world?

[@schrempskynate8944]

^That's a good question. We have laws protecting us from bad cars via a "lemon law". Why not a lemon law for garbage courses like gender studies? Either get rid of these courses, by defunding them , or get your money back.

[@patrickH206]

When I was in college I always wondered why some people had so much time to scroll social media feeds day and night and party all weekend. When they graduated, most of them didn't land a job and complained about life. The ones who did had parents who knew people.

[@dylanbrod429]

Its because many people want to enjoy the 4 years of university partying and scrolling through social media, and getting into debt. After those 4 awesome years they are ready to settle down and suffer for the next 60. My plan is to work hard for 4 years and relax and enjoy the next 60.

[@AlanC19]

Did y’all even watch the video?

[@zheli655]

So you are saying many beautiful young girls out there are struggling with their lives? I wanna save them by marrying one of them

[@hellothere8812]

Three of the most important things you need: qualifications, work experience & connections. A lot of people solely rely on good qualifications, hence why they find it difficult to get a job

[@Glodak]

My glad someone finally said this!

[@RA-pi1lg]

I have BA in banking and finance and MBA finance and I am an uber driver. I gave up after applying to ar least 20 to 30 jobs a day for 10 years 48,000 in debt

[@antonioantro6854]

So we are in the same situation i thought was an Italian problrn

[@ElTitoAndrezz]

What’s your university?

[@kevinr3439]

Did you have internships throughout College?

[@benfranklin3638]

Banking and finance are difficult UFC. So many of the jobs have been outsourced to the oversees divisions of the major banks...and they pay the people a tenth as much. An MBA "might" help but it will only add to the debt...unless you have an "in" at a major financial institution.

[@0311ForceRecon]

@@kevinr3439 People keep mentioning internships throughout these comment sections. Can you explain to me when I should do an internship and why? I just left the military sorry

[@SimpMcSimpy]

Sorry but if you are mechanical engineer and can't find a job then there is something wrong. Move to another city, take some risks in your life. When I started working as IT engineer I worked some time in North Africa countries (where my company had sent me). When I got some experience and earned some money I quit my job and took better one... First steps in life are the hardest but it is the test of your personality.

[@christianfrey7144]

Or he could leave Canada!

[@fisterhr]

Very true Mad Max.

[@BBQBeerKars]

It's easier said than done. Although your advice isn't completely wrong, it is not that the person/persons are afraid of taking risks, it's that this "risk" comes at a price too! So, if you're talking about physically moving from one location to another, that costs money! A part-time job, around 15-20 hours per week, pays you somewhere around $400 to $500 with the Ontario's minimum pay, after deducting taxes, OF COURSE!!!! Now, with this money you have to pay rent, phone bills, and even buy some food for a basic human survival, eh? Please tell me, if this is your monthly story, day in and day out, where and exactly HOW would you save any money to move out? Oh not to mention that you have to put down a deposit for rent wherever you go! Perhaps living in North Africa was good for you, and I'm glad, but as far as the Canadian economy goes, even moving to some of the poorest places in Africa seems like a far-fetched dream for most of the youth, ok? Most, including myself, have volunteered with some of the best-known charities and participated at other community activities for the sake of showing "SOMETHING" in our resumé, I'm not ashamed to admit that. But honestly, this does not work! My story is similar to that guy in this video, landed an Engineering degree only to face uncertainties and ended up working at Harvey's! Once I got there, I found out I wasn't the only one, the place was filled with other recent graduates... So, if you're asking for a solution, Canada should stop with this Humanitarian saga and try to fix what needs fixing. It's a really beautiful thing to help another soul who is in need of help, agreed, but what good does it do anyone to bring them to a freezing country with no provision to pay for a shelter, in other words, NO JOBS!!! It might seem like getting a Canadian citizenship is everything but come on, it also has to MEAN something! Am I wrong here?

[@ravnesjel5305]

@@BBQBeerKars You are talking very reasonable and describe realistic setup. Some people are there just to patronizie, they take their own situation as valid for everybody. Maybe this Mad Max was 15 years ago searching for a job as mechanical engineer, the things changed radically, even in the last 5 years.

[@jonjones2436]

@@ravnesjel5305 Yeah, in the last five years the economy has gotten better.

[@alexissoto5662]

When people ask me "what i do for a living" i tell them "i earn money" 👏

[@GGTanguera]

Yeah, prostitutes, drug deallers, warlords and oligarchs say the same.

[@eurekamreum5458]

I don't remember asking tho

[@TheAnarchist99]

Dumbest comment ever

[@carlkpsplucky5554]

Who cares?

[@ShadowGhost-n8d]

Lmaowroflpimp. Hahahaha

[@donatehilltop]

This is why im bout to sell drugs

Instead of taking them?

[@melelconquistador]

Congrats on becoming a pharmacist.

[@Handsomeboy13333]

After all Biochemical engineering is best Major to go. You can open your own business in the basement.

[@ladydede88]

Weed farming for medical marijuana

[@aidancoll919]

@fbi

[@Aja-Christian]

My favorite "punchline" in this situation in my own personal life is when after 4 years of college and earning my BA in Criminal Justice/Pre-Law the only positions I seem to be "qualified" for are jobs where they want to pay me $11-12 an hour to answer phones, sort mail, and make coffee all day. These jobs out here literally require you to have a BA. . . to do what any competent 16 year old in high school can do. And the jobs I feel I'm actually qualified for want me to have 10+ years of experience!!! I've only been out of school 5 years! These companies stress how much they want you to have experience, but don't want to be the ones to give you a chance and train you up and allow you to gain the very experience they demand of you. And I'm realizing now that it's not just me; out of my small group of friends and former classmates (about 10 of us altogether) only ONE of us has been able to afford to move out and get our own place. The rest of us still live with our parents . Maybe 20-30 years ago we might've teased each other about it but at this point we just see it as being better than living out on the street. I'd go back in time and go to trade school if I could. All having a college degree has done for me is acquire debt and having my future goals pushed back another 5-10 years if not more.

[@zephead843]

Become a cop. They're always looking to hire women with a degree in Criminal Justice. You'll be put on the fast track to promotions. Big city cops make lots of $$$. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[@defaultworkouts]

@@zephead843 every job requires a certain type of personality. you can't be whatever you want to be. it has to match your personality and skills.

[@paweltrawicki2200]

I wish you better luck going down the tough road called life.God bless you.

[@ludwigvonmiseswasright4380]

@Brandon Martin You're right. But even more than 18 year-old's, THEIR PARENTS should have known better! Some kids spend their whole teen years being indoctrinated into higher education. I hope to provide my daughter with both the education (which can be found at a library for free) and a trade or a skill which is needed.

[@N7-WAR-HOUND]

Brandon Martin I’m around 55k a year truck driving with daily home time. But when your a kid everyone LITERALLY everyone says go to college...you are just a kid you don’t know any better... actually saying this is extremely ironic. I went to college and got into debt because I didn’t know better

[@navmaster111]

My current status: It's been 2 years looking for a job. Had very good interviews 99%, still, nothing materialized. Now all the confidence is gone. And salt on wounds is: every now role applied for, they ask why the gap. Welcome to Canada.

[@isaiahthemayor]

navmaster111 sorry to hear that I wish u the best

[@Jack_Danyo]

Completly understand how you feel! Hope you get yourself out of that rut. Degrees in Canada don't equal any job guarantee, its all a smoke screen.

[@lucgh2007]

Anomaly Of Anomalies I already saw like 10 comments saying the same thing: "Come to Japan to teach english". Is the demand really that high? Because if it is im starting to do my research now, since im aggressively unemployed.

[@lynxo5695]

The employment gaps are something no matter what, you have to explain. I've learnt this the hard way. If you've been unemployed for more than 3 months do some volunteering/unpaid work.

[@pinkpearl1967]

"Why the gap?" is such a dumb question when jobs are so precarious. Gaps are NORMAL now.

[@flutist218]

I am now retired and living in a large US city. Each generation has its own challenges. My father's generation came home from WW 2 and had difficulty getting a job. My father worked in a large Fortune 500 corporation. In college I asked my father what I should do. He said "find a large corporation and work your whole life for them." I did so-but 1.5 years into the job they announced they were closing our regional office and I was out of work because I did not want to transfer. My generation was the beginning of a generation where there was almost no chance of working a career with one company and getting a pension. Here I am at 66. I have worked for EIGHT different companies plus one I started myself. One thing that does not change is relationships. Always work to build contacts and relationships in your neighborhood, in your church, wherever you shop--look for your next job. Always be looking young people!

[@TheSnyderWeb]

Wow it hit me hard when the lady said "I work in a university, I work in a place that SELLS education! And I have no job security there and can't afford her kids medicine.. I am sad

[@mackcummy4976]

My dad got a job as a firefighter with a highschool education and average grades. They trained him the job like driving an air brake truck and first aid. These days you have to pay to take those courses first then apply.

[@adamd6648]

mack cummy your dad sounds like he was in the good days

[@bensimmons6149]

Firefighters don’t need a degree lol

[@BANIELDARCO]

i believe the college degree helps get your foot in the door but what truly matters is the unpaid internships and networking and small personal projects. the moral here is that u cant only rely only on the degree to get u a job. experience matters.

[@davideyaliscool]

these people have no internships or anything, they just expect to get a job

[@Eveningbreeze721]

@@signiturelady I guess the opposite, no work experience at all, is better?

[@eliestrations4906]

The bar tender pretending that the degree she has is the reason she can grow in that company. Some people have intelligence and can progress through work experience without an actual 5 yr degree. It doesn’t take a degree to grow in a job. 😅

[@arricammarques1955]

Starbucks barista probably paying off a student loans.