Is Allah A Father In Any Sense? (Christian Argument Destroyed)

[@Jr.GaLaXy]

Thus, you cannot call Allah in any shape and form. Thank you for proving the point that Allah cannot by a father in any sense.

[@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful]

Bro is not even listening. Get that holy spirit checked out is bugging🤦‍♂️

[@TheClassicPug]

​@@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful says the guy with Satan's piss in their ears, cool it lil bro

[@exposingcrossdogtianity]

@@TheClassicPug This is coming from a guy who believes God forced his Prophet to cook bread with sh💩t. Cool it Crossdog.

[@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful]

@TheClassicPug guess who worships three gods?

[@sorlag2496]

@@TheClassicPug LMAO

[@Drmyd836]

Great Job!

[@JathelyHelliya]

You mean worst Job This Guy make many mistakes His video 2:58 don't point out the context Hosea 2:[16] And it shall be at that day, saith the LORD, that thou shalt call me Ishi; and shalt call me no more Baali. [17] For I will take away the names of Baalim out of her mouth, and they shall no more be remembered by their name.

[@deceiver-paul]

​@@JathelyHelliyaChristianity is the fastest decreasing religion

[@magnificentuniverse3085]

As a Christian Ill give you credit where credit is due. This is a consistent and reasonable explanation.

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@@magnificentuniverse3085 thank you for your honesty

[@SheikhJakey]

No it's not, he's full of it. Read my comment I completely break it down and he can't give a response.

[@magnificentuniverse3085]

@@SheikhJakey He never claimed that all the verses in the Bible that call Jesus as the Son of God can be interpreted in a muslim sense. He only argued that islam doesnt have a problem with Jesus identifying as the son of God and pointed out that that's a traditional muslim interpretation given by some of the most respected commentators. He also said that the practice changed because of its abuse, and gave us a similar example from the Bible. He would probably agree with you that John and the epistles in the NT take that term in more than a metaphorical sense... but he can always draw the "Bible is corrupted" card. He probably has an academic consensus behind him here as well. A vast majority of scholars would say that the idea of Jesus as the Son of God evolved from his use to the one we see in the NT and from NT to our modern understandings which we then project to the NT. Ofc, I as a Christian would say that such reconstructions by scholars and muslims are wrong, but I still must point out that you completely misunderstood his argumentation here.

[@magnificentuniverse3085]

@@MuslimOrthodoxy Can you pls confirm or correct my understanding of your argument?

[@Simeonlovesgod]

@@SheikhJakey right ? The argument is so ass I’m doing a refutation rn

[@yinzplaygaming]

Romans 2:5 says, "But because of your stubbornness and your unrepentant heart, you are storing up wrath against yourself for the day of God's wrath, when his righteous judgment will be revealed".

[@Osbourn-q9m]

That's actually a very good argument, well done

[@theologyroom]

I am a Christian who became Muslim. Just discovered your channel. Solid and highly informational video. Hope your channel grows! The Christian argument that Allah is not the God of the Bible because He isn't referred to as "Father" is really pathetic. Firstly, the term "Father" in the Bible is not meant to be taken literally. God is also referred to as a "husband" in the Bible numerous times. Yet, Christians understand "husband" as a metaphor, but still insist that "Father" has to be taken literally! Secondly, God in the Bible does not have literal children. When God made man on the sixth day, he did not say he was producing children for himself. Instead he created man from the same soil that the animals came from! Basically if God's "sons" are not literal, then He isn't a literal "Father" as well. If they're so hung up on names and titles, then we ought to remind them that Jesus in the New Testament never called God "Yahweh"; so according to their logic, Jesus' God was not the "Yahweh" God of the Old Testament.

[@Servant.Of.TheMost-Merciful]

Excellently explained my friend jazakillah khair

[@north7728]

Sorry for your loss brother

[@jamaicanyoute]

Your argument is weak at best. Regardless whether it’s metaphorical or not, Muslims don’t call Allah “Father”. It’s not that we think He’s our literal Father. So whichever Christian insists that it’s to be taken literally doesn’t know what they’re talking about. It’s an easy way to show that Allah & YHVH are not the same. We don’t worship the same God. YHVH refers to Himself as our husband because of how Jesus (who is YHVH) has His bride, the church. This use of language, idea, and metaphor is common knowledge in Christian theology. As a former Christian you should know this. Just like you should know He calls Himself “Father” to His children. If you’re a follower of Christ, you are adopted into His family (Romans 8:15) and He sees you as His child, instead of a child of wrath (Ephesians 2). He calls Himself Father in numerous places. Just like He refers to Baal as a false god. So no, YHVH is not the same as Baal. Funnily enough though, Baal is probably the same false god as Allah. Your second argument is even weaker and really shows your lack of knowledge or research. What language was the Old Testament predominantly written in? Hebrew. What is YHVH? It’s the tetragrammatron, which is only used in the Hebrew language. The New Testament was written predominantly in Greek, and uses the words Kurios or Theos for Lord and God respectively. So there’s no need to use the tetragrammatron. If you want to get technical, every time we see “Lord” for Jesus it’s YHVH. Secondly, Jesus calls the Father YHVH when He calls Himself YHVH and also claims they are the same being, the same essence, same nature.

[@NailTouze-l2k]

You want to twist the God of Israel but you are a blind Guy. Moses, King Saul King David and King Solomon call : YHWH "Father" Deuteronomy 32:[6] Do ye thus requite the LORD, O foolish people and unwise? Is not he thy father that hath bought thee? Hath he not made thee, and established thee? [7] Remember the days of old, Consider the years of many generations: Ask thy father, and he will shew thee; Thy elders, and they will tell thee. [8] When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the people According to the number of the children of Israel. 2 Samuel 7:[14] I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men: Psalm 89:[26] He shall cry unto me, Thou art my father, My God, and the rock of my salvation. [27] Also I will make him my firstborn, Higher than the kings of the earth. Proverbs 23:[24] The father of the righteous shall greatly rejoice: And he that begetteth a wise child shall have joy of him. [27] For a whore is a deep ditch; And a strange woman is a narrow pit.

[@NailTouze-l2k]

I feel sorry for you that the Devil manipulate you to reject Christ Now you have the Spirit of the Antichrist 1 John 4:[3] and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. And this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.

[@Reality24-28]

Another argument to reject Jesus being muslim Refuted.

[@j2shoes288]

nope

[@ryuusuk33]

Alhamdulillah

[@Hannestv4607]

*What your imams don't tell you* Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *this is a mistake in the Qur'an!*

[@Hannestv4607]

*What your imams don't tell you* Allah himself testifies that he has a son and he is the son as Christians understand it! Only the Koran writer was too ignorant to know what Son of God means! Allah's word which created everything is Allah himself too! *The Word Allahs which created everything is the Son of God according to Christianity!*

[@Ondonol_]

​@@Hannestv4607And apsolutly now where does the Qur'an say that christians belive that Jesus being the son of God means that God literaly has a chiald.

[@johnmurphy588]

problem is that no Christian ever claimed that Fathership, sonship terminology is in sexual, biological sense but only spiritual sense. So if you claim quran only solely attacks sexual, biological sense of the word then you claim quran attacks mistake. Therefore Surah 5:18, 9:30, 19:88-93 shows the fact that Allah is not a father in any sense. Surah 2:40-44 - Surah 2:89 - Surah 2:91 - Surah 2:97 - Surah 2:101 - Surah 3:3-4 - Surah 3:81 - Surah 4:47 - Surah 5:43-48 - Surah 5:68 - Surah 6:115 - Surah 7:157 - Surah 18:27 - Surah 35:31 - Surah 46:30 - Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 - Quran confirms 7th century Torah and Christian Gospel and says for us to judge by the Torah and the Gospel (5:43-48, 5:66-68). that the Torah and Gospel is revealed as Allah's words (3:3-4). yet none change the words of Allah (5:116). that we are to expect prophecies of Muhammad within those scriptures (7:157). yet we have full Bibles centuries before Muhammad but our scriptures contradict with your scriptures. 1. If Bible is false Quran is false for confirming false document. 2. If Bible is true you have to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour and there is no room for Muhammad, Islam or Quran. Sahih Bukhari 5134 - Sahih Bukhari 6130 - Sahih Muslim 1422C - Sahih Bukhari 6307 - Sahih Bukhari 5215 - Muhammad consummated (sex) with 9 year old girl (Sahih Bukhari 5134). and the added Islamic commentary states the only reason why she was allowed to play with dolls at the age of 9 is because she had not yet reached the age of puberty for she was just a little girl (Sahih Bukhari 6130). yet she had her dolls with her at the age of 9 (Sahih Muslim 1422C) which is the same age that they consummated (Sahih Bukhari 5134). Muhammad had sex with 9 wives in 1 night in Sahih Bukhari 5215 which breaches what he preached in Surah 4:3 where he says for the Muslim men have only 4 wives. Muslims will rightly point out polygamy in Old Testament however show me occurence in Old Testament where a prophet preaches to have a specific set of wives but then breaches it afterwards. Sahih Bukhari 6307 furthermore shows Muhammad as an imperfect sinner since he repents 70 times daily to God. But this is in incomparable contrast to the moral majesty of Christ who according to both Bible and hadith is sinless and perfect we see this in 1 Peter 1:18-19, 2:20-22, John 8:45-47, Hebrews 4:15-16, Isaiah 53:1-12 we see this and even in Sahih Bukhari 4712 we see a cutscene of all the prophets naming their mistakes/sins but it only says for Christ 'he will not name a sin.' yet in Bible in his sinlessness he claims divinity Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega Beginning and End First and Last.

[@sultanahamed2484]

Lol father son mother relationship exists naturally on earth as natural process of existence not after death not in the skies attributing God as father amounts to belittling his status and divine power why should god be called in worldly names

[@johnmurphy588]

@@sultanahamed2484 Then you are only showing a demonstration as to the fact that the God of Moses for example is not the God of the quran: God is proclaimed as a Heavenly Father to His people in spiritual sense Exodus 4:22-23, Deuteronomy 14:1, Deuteronomy 32:6, Deuteronomy 32:16-20, Isaiah 63:16, Isaiah 64:8, Malachi 2:10, Mark 1:11, Mark 9:7, Matthew 6:9-14, Luke 11:1-4, Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5. yet Allah of quran is not a father in any sense and has no sons in any sense Surah 5:18, 9:30, 19:88-93. yet Allah claims continuity with the previous revelations Surah 2:40-44 - Surah 2:89 - Surah 2:91 - Surah 2:97 - Surah 2:101 - Surah 3:3-4 - Surah 3:81 - Surah 4:47 - Surah 5:43-48 - Surah 5:68 - Surah 6:115 - Surah 7:157 - Surah 18:27 - Surah 35:31 - Surah 46:30 - Sunan Abu Dawud 4449 - Quran confirms 7th century Torah and Christian Gospel and says for us to Judge by Torah and Gospel (5:43-48, 5:66-68). yet Torah and Gospel is revealed as Allah's words (3:3-4). yet none can change the words of Allah (6:115). and you are to expect prophecies of Muhammad within those scriptures (7:157). yet we have full Bibles centuries before Muhammad Codex Vaticanus, Codex Sinaiticus, Church Father citiations, Scholarly consensus. But our scriptures contradict with your scriptures. Quran confirms Bible: 1. If Bible is false quran is false for confirming a false document 2. If Bible is true you have to accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour and there is no room for Muhammad, Islam or quran. Sahih Bukhari 5134 - Sahih Bukhari 6130 - Sahih Muslim 1422C - Sahih Bukhari 5215 - Sahih Bukhari 6307 - Muhammad consummated (sex) with 9 year old girl and the added Islamic commentary states the only reason why she was allowed to play with dolls is because she had not yet reached the age of puberty for she was just a little girl (Sahih Bukhari 6130). yet she had her dolls with her when she was 9 (Sahih Muslim 1422C) which is the same age that they consummated (Sahih Bukhari 5134) Muhammad is meant to be a moral examplar of all cultures of all Muslims of all times according to Surah 33:21 and according to Surah 68:4 meant to be an excellent example. Sahih Bukhari 5215 Muhammad had sex with 9 wives in 1 night breaching what he preached to have only 4 wives for the Muslim men Surah 4:3. Muslims will rightly point out polygamy in Old Testament however show me occurence where any Old Testament prophet preaches to have a specific set of wives but then breaches it afterwards. Sahih Bukhari 6307 Muhammad makes his own admission that he is imperfect sinner and he says that he repents 70 times daily to Allah in forgiveness. This is in incomparable contrast to Christ who is sinless and perfect 1 Peter 1:18-19, 2:20-22, Hebrews 4:15-16, John 8:45-47, Isaiah 53:1-12, and even according to Sahih Bukhari 4712 there is a cutscene of the prophets where they name their mistake/sins and for some reason when it comes to Christ it says 'he will not name a sin.' In Christ sinlessness he claims divinity he says Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and Omega, Beginning and End, First and Last.

[@AtamMardes]

♦"Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." ♦"Religion is founded on the fear & gullibility of many & the cleverness of few." ♦"Only fools revere the supernatural bs just bc a book says it's the holy truth." ♦"The delusional religious fools are cocksure & the intelligent full of doubt." ♦"The religious believe by the millions what only lunatics believe on their own." ♦"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." ♦"It's difficult to free the religious fools from the chains they revere." ♦“To have faith is precisely to lose one's mind so as to win God.” ♦"The death of dogma is the birth of morality." ♦"Religion fools many bc human brain is susceptible to hallucination & gullibility."

[@mohamedagha3541]

So what did you prove oh yeah nothing

[@hildahosey9182]

Literally atheism has no historical presence, absolutely zero and you can't debunk me on this. Atheism as an ideology which is what it is has roots in the French revolution if not after the French revolution when it comes to people like Karl Marx who spearheaded atheism as a ideological movement. That isn't to forget to mention the fact that secular humanism which is the foundation ideology and philosophy to atheism, has roots in the ethical culture movement which was influenced by reformed Judaism. The entire metaphysical and physical framework of atheism as it is is rooted in religion you can't escape religion even when you call yourself a skeptic so stop trying to be smart you're not a skeptic really

[@AtamMardes]

@@hildahosey9182 Unfortunately you're not saying anything intelligent by thinking properly & honestly.

[@hungaman1]

Great video! I subscribed to your channel

[@chantc777]

John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his (only begotten Son),that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.(KJV) Here’s even the Greek version if you disagree: Οὕτως γὰρ ἠγάπησεν ὁ Θεὸς τὸν κόσμον, ὥστε τὸν υἱὸν αὐτοῦ τὸν μονογενῆ ἔδωκεν, ἵνα πᾶς ὁ πιστεύων εἰς αὐτὸν μὴ ἀπόληται, ἀλλ᾽ ἔχῃ ζωὴν αἰώνιον. 👍🏽

[@chantc777]

Hebrews 1:8- But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of thy kingdom.(God the father speaking) Greek version: πρὸς δὲ τὸν υἱὸν· Ὁ θρόνος σου, ὁ Θεὸς, εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα τοῦ αἰῶνος· σκῆπτρον ἀμεταμέλητον ἡ δικαιοσύνης.

[@BenUlziikhuu]

If you guys want to see someone grill the christian religion you have to check out Martin Zender the worlds most outspoken Bible Scholar!! The crimes of Christianity

[@sherif.1977]

Christians themselves call their pastors father… but they insist that Jesus calling God father is literal

[@FollowerofChrist1_11]

We call Priests Father as a sign of respect, we claim Jesus called God Father litteraly bcuz of John 1:14 and John 3:16

[@BusinessShepherd]

I'm a Christian and we don't call Pastors Father's... We call them Pastor.

[@sherif.1977]

@ come on bud ! Why you lie with a straight face …because you happen to be a different denomination of Christianity so that makes my statement not true unbelievable

[@sherif.1977]

@@FollowerofChrist1_11 sign of respect ….bingo!

[@pinkrosesinmay]

Usually it’s catholics that do this, not Christians

[@carbonsoul5121]

great video

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

The Quran itself, regardless of later Muslims, rejects the possibility of Allah being a Father in any sense, even ruling out Allah having a created, adopted son: Q. 39:4, Q. 19:88-94. The term "father" was never abrogated because the eternal, uncreated speech of Allah (the Quran) already eternally decreed that such terminology is blasphemy. It was never authorized in the first place.

[@Smartdehrman]

It was abrogated! Quran is uncreated but it’s not eternal

[@alinbasic8736]

Your comment is absolute nonsense. A word in an earlier language, Spoken by ealier people does not necessary hold the same meaning today as back then, for example BaaI. In ancient judaism they called God father as metaphor, we dont believe they meant an actual father back then in first place so its a meaning that came into exitence later, therfore doesnt even contradict the eternal word of God. Doesnt isaiah 56:5 say the future believers will NO longer be called sons and daughters and will get a New everlasting name ?

[@ConsideringPhlebas]

@@alinbasic8736 No one believes the Biblical Father-Son language is literal, as in biological. But the Quran clearly, vehemently rejects language of 'sonship' of any kind: Q. 19:88-93, Q. 9:30, Q. 39:4. Also, basic words like 'son' and 'father' are pretty clear cut and retain their meanings across time. Compare the Hebrew for son: ben, Arabic is bin. Arabic for male child is walad, Hebrew is yeled. Hebrew for father is ab, Arabic is ab. Same words, same meaning, so your semantic argument doesn't work here. Isaiah 56:5 doesn't say they "won't be called" sons and daughters anymore, only that they'll get a better name.

[@alinbasic8736]

@@ConsideringPhlebas You dont have to teach me about semitic languages, i know the words are the same. But my point is that the meanings differed. The Quran denys a fathership of God because father means Father. Back then they said the same semitic word Ben/ibn or Abb etc i dont deny that - but they didnt mean the same. Christians in the 7th century believed in the trinity of the Father and his only begotten son - for me thats Not metaphoric. As you see the earliest muslim scholars knew that the word was rightfully used in ancient Times. Lets see an example: Mary being the sister of Aaron in the Quran. Why Was she called like that? Because their language had a different meaning ,,Mughira ibn Shu’ba reported: When I came to Najran, the Christian monks asked me, “You recite the verse, ‘O sister of Aaron,’ (19:28) but Moses was born long before Jesus by many years.” When I came back to the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, I asked him about it and he said, “Verily, they used to name people with the names of prophets and righteous people who had passed before them.” ( muslim 2135) I mean dont you believe God called himself YHWH and totally abolished that name in the 1st century BC and let everyone forget its meaning and pronpuncing even though the prophets have the shortened Form of that name in their names ?? Why did he do that??

[@alinbasic8736]

@@ConsideringPhlebas I will give, in my house and within my walls, a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off. A new name - better than sons and daughters that shall NOT be cut off - indicating sons and daughters shall be cut off! If you like it or Not

[@ibrahimy8805]

Thank you for answering all of tht in one video!! People forget abrogation exists!

[@Trwillis9]

The quran says allah cannot have a son in ANY SENSE.. stop the Taqqiya

[@mohamedagha3541]

First of all where does the quran say that second is the father ball in any sense

[@asmrnaturecat984]

any muslim asking for this specific ayah in quran is very much questionable as a muslim, maybe still a muslim but its like christian didnt know the verse "in the beginning"

[@orandegellogaming4793]

Surah Al-Ma’idah (Chapter 5, Verse 18): "The Jews and the Christians say, 'We are the children of Allah and His beloved.' Say, 'Then why does He punish you for your sins?' Rather, you are human beings from among those He has created." Those Jews and Christian’s obviously didn’t think they were born of God physically, they meant it as in the endearing Father provider way you described. This is denied in the Quran, there are enough instances like this where you’d be certainly unorthodox to call Allah your Abba at all. Not only this but the primary basis affirmed by all New Testament scholarship on Jesus’ self proclaimed sonship is a unique one- in the relationship you cannot affirm as a Muslim. Most passages in bringing them up in context would immediately go beyond even the way you think it can be said just as a provider

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

dude, did you watch the video?

[@orandegellogaming4793]

@@MuslimOrthodoxyyes, did you read my comment? But It was beyond an endearing provider Father set of statements in the NT to be abrogated. It was Jesus’ pre existence being the unique son that is of God. Even telling the Father to glorify him as in the glory they had before the world began. Many Father statements are immediately surrounded by context you can’t just say was abrogated as it would never have been true.

[@jamaicanyoute]

He has to ask if you watched the video because he doesn’t want to hear your argument. Unfortunately this is what typically happens. They take things out of context, but can’t reconcile their own false scriptures. They refute logical explanations to reconcile the true Words of God, and will then make ad hominem attacks or go to something that has already been dealt with. Lord help them.

[@orandegellogaming4793]

@ He probably also intellectually honestly feels justified and thought I might have made a sweeping comment

[@kkunknownkk]

​@@orandegellogaming4793 If you pay attention to that verse you brought (chapter 5:18). Allah is not admonishing them for the use of the word children, he is admonishing them for thinking they are special over the rest of creation. The condition to be able to use that term in the correct sense is right in the next sentence "Then why does he punish you for your sins" meaning if they didn't sin...they would be able to make that claim. The verse then goes on to say he forgives who he wills and punishes who he wills. You guys assume Allah has a problem with the word children here, but the problem is in the christians and jews themselves. This make sense?

[@EwaenAdun-c8h]

Allah says he is not the father in your own scripture, you are making up a different meaning so you can make up a false interpretation of the Quran. But let me ask you a question is Allah the father or not. Also in Quran Jesus did not make a single believer and he made a religion a billion plus people follow so how does Jesus deserve to be at the right hand of allah

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

Where does Allah says he’s not a father in any sense in my scripture?

[@akolisaacemmanuel4227]

​@@MuslimOrthodoxy surah 5:18 (your allah denies the Jews being his sons)... Surah 9:30...your fake allah rebukes those who call Jesus son of allah, ...you're god is not a father hence not the God of Jesus😂

[@EwaenAdun-c8h]

W nice assistant

[@Emilio-np4dk]

@@MuslimOrthodoxyI can disprove Islam to you in one sentence bro

[@EwaenAdun-c8h]

Ok I don’t know what you mean to the other guy. But I’d like to ask you a question, was the Bible changed?

[@Truewords-e1f]

No quran said metaphorically or really don't call allah father your argument is absolutely wrong

[@deanmccrorie3461]

Do you have evidence to say you can’t do that?

[@olek5903]

So Paul was Worshiping Allah nice logic 😂😂😂😂

[@azanvideos]

Proof?

[@saadhorsepower8908]

How does the video prove that??? And even if he did worship God, he associated partners with Him and worshipped someone besides Him, giving attributes of the Creator to His creations. The entire point of Islam is to worship Allah ALONE and to absolutely never worship anyone or thing except Him.

[@SemanIsmail-d9z]

Very good information

[@arabianknightrider]

I strongly believe that Issa 3alayhil salam never called Allah Abb/Father, but rather Rabb/Lord. Considering they corrupted their books, it would have been very easy to change the Hebrew word Rabb to Abb by just dropping the first letter.

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@@arabianknightrider rabb to abb? Akhi there’s no such thing as Rab and Abb in Hebrew.

[@arabianknightrider]

@@MuslimOrthodoxy Akhi, yes there is. Look before you leap.

[@Truth21a619]

Wow 🤯

[@sarrinakthersama7025]

Even Jesus pbuh never spoke English or called God the father he said in Aramaic ALLAHA😂

[@toecamle8583]

😂😂 Jesus never spoke Arabic and you acknowledging that Jesus spoke Aramaic mean that you ironically used that the new testament to confirm reliable sources of information when it comes to the historical life of Jesus which has him recorded calling God his father (Abba in Aramaic) which mean the God (Alaha in Aramaic) Jesus was praying to is not the Islamic god allah.

[@1MSubscribersWithNoContent]

ALLAHA is not the name of your god last time i checked. ABBA is the word he used to call YHWH his father

[@alinbasic8736]

​​@@toecamle8583why the anonym author of the Gospel of mark has Jesus calling God as Father/Abba only 4x times and then anonymous John 30 yesrs later has him call God father 112x suddenly ?? And why should we need the New Testament to know what language 1st century jews spoke? History and discovered writings prove that for us, and a messenger only speaks his peoples language quran 14:4

[@patriot-g3e]

​@@alinbasic8736yes they spoke Hebrew Greek which goes against your claim

[@Mortal_Worlds_Researcher]

How many sons does God have according to the Bible? Israel is my son, my firstborn! (Exodus 4 : 22) I will be his father, and he shall be my son. (1 chronicles 13 : 17) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them. ( Job 1 : 6) The "sons of God" saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. (Genesis 6 : 2 ) I will proclaim the LORD's decree: He said to me, “You are my son; today I have become your father. (Psalms 2:7) When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (Job 38 : 7) Adam was son of God (Luke 3:38) Son of God is the expression of special relationship which has been used in bible in many places. 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God. ' John 20 : 17

[@badonlikoy5571]

Jesus is the biological Son of God in the Spirit of Holiness and Righteousness, because Jesus was born through the Holy Spirit of God the Father Most High (Luke 1:35 & Matthew 1:20). No human beings or any Prophets born through the Holy Spirit of God the Father Most High, only our Lord Jesus Christ. Adam was created by God like Animals through only the breath of life of God (Genesis 2:7 & Genesis 1:30). In fact, God destroys all that has breath of life in it (Genesis 6:17).

[@John-D327]

​@@badonlikoy5571 "Biological" Lmfao 🤣🤣

[@enricoairesgomez2769]

You do realize the Quran proclaims the Bible as the word of God and that the word of God cannot be corrupted. So you’re fooling yourself. Muslims are really brainless wow

[@Ondonol_]

Hey will you do refutation videos?

[@fazlan33]

best explanation ever. thanks

[@alexandermccookk]

The term of tanzih (in Islamic theology: Allahs transcendence) rejects this belief terming Allah a father in a metaphorical creator, or father of a covenant. It Implies a form of anthropomorphism. Because the term “father” itself is a term describes the position that Allah can take on titles attributed solely to the likes of humans characteristics (his own creation).

[@NickSmithFitnessOfficial]

Then, by this logic, muslims cannot assert Jesus to be the son of god by means of ordinary affiliation, as if god had a wife.

[@peaceGOD-wo8wj]

John 10:30 - Jesus states, "I and the Father are one." This declaration implies a unity with God the Father, which was understood by His audience as a claim to divinity. John 8:58 - Jesus says, "Before Abraham was born, I am!" The phrase "I am" is significant as it echoes God's self-identification in Exodus 3:14, indicating His eternal existence and divinity. Matthew 28:18-20 - After His resurrection, Jesus declares, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me." He then commands His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, indicating His divine authority and equality with God all this is from the people who lived with Jesus Christ son of God and not 600 years after

[@RationalMuslim1]

Fire 🔥

[@tachitichi5545]

He (jesus) went forward a little,fell on his face, and prayed (Mathew 26:39) Jesus suddenly took on an existence that was lower than the angels(Psalm 8:5)

[@enricoairesgomez2769]

Wait a second Mohammed was actually mentioned in the Bible. “Beware of false prophets”

[@asmrnaturecat984]

doglogic

[@enricoairesgomez2769]

@@asmrnaturecat984 your religion is based on trust me bro and drinking piss as medicine lil bro. Sit down

[@roslanhaikal7242]

alhamdulillah for Islam for calling God, Allah(God). not weird calling like daddy, papa

[@ibrahims148]

Good job

[@123dsj123]

Analytic Truths: Is Allah a father in any sense? According to the speaker in this video, “Yes, Allah is a father depending on what is meant by father. If father means creator, sustainer, and provider, then Allah is a father, because Allah is creator, sustainer, and provider.” * But what does Allah say to Muslims who calls him “father” in the sense that he (Allah) is creator, sustainer, and provider? Allah says, “I beget not - none is joined to me.” [See Quran 112:1-4] * So, even in “Analytic Truths”, Allah is not a begetter - none is joined to him. Allah is not a father in any sense - analytically speaking, of course.

[@DawahSnippets]

Allahumma barik

[@Emilio-np4dk]

I can prove Islam is wrong

[@DawahSnippets]

@@Emilio-np4dk Don't do it :(

[@Emilio-np4dk]

@@DawahSnippets too late little Muslim- If the Quran is true and forever word of Allah, why does it say sperm is made between the ribs and the back bone? We know from basic medical science this is not true, there all of Islam is false

[@adaa1078]

Can i call Allah a mother if I mean it in a way of being a creator, provider?

[@adaa1078]

@ how does this answer my question? Are you saying that when Jesus called him father he was comparing him to human fathers? Obviously not, so my question still stands would it be okay to call him that if it was meant in the same way as when they called him father

[@Nola-2000]

No mother sounds too pagan. Like "mother nature". And I'm a christian.

[@Youtube..Enjoyer]

I think no because it's feminine. Allah refers to himself in the Quran in the masculine form

[@tahabennett7388]

Father, mother, Son, daughter...what do you mean by this? That God can have a family? Infinite number of persons? But still 1 God in essence? 😆

[@tupapisoyyo676]

God directly affirms hes notbti be called baal. allah directly rejected being a father because he doesn't beget . They both made the clear distinction

[@tachitichi5545]

Jesus says"My teaching is not my own, It comes from the one who sent me(John 7:16)

[@YeshuaIsTruth33]

The bible doesn't show Jesus was a post Muhammad Muslim. Ive discuss this with Muslim Lantern and he affirmed the bible doesn't show Jesus to be a Muslim post Muhammad, but a pre aggregate Muslim for which there is ZERO evidence of the term Muslim before Islam

[@alinbasic8736]

There is proof for the word muslim and lsIam before ,,islam'' for example the hebrew term mushlam we find for example in isaiah 42:19 and many other verses is the same word as muslim just in another Form, bible commentators such as J blenkunsopp even define it by using the arabic muslim in his commentary on isaiah 40-55 Also, if yoz Google,,biblehub 7999 shalam'' it Shows you th3 biblical word shalam and its Definition and it literally say islam below. Jewish aramaic Texts from over 2000 years ago call the children of Jethro Salamay / Muslimay All prophets were muslims

[@mohamedagha3541]

Muslim mean someone who submits his well to God and every prophet was a Muslim with different laws that's our belief

[@YeshuaIsTruth33]

@mohamedagha3541 not so, can a Muslim state that he will die for the forgiveness of others sin OR look up to heaven and pray. Jesus is a Jew

[@mohamedagha3541]

​@@YeshuaIsTruth33 we don't believe every in the Bible Jesus said it because then you have contradictions in it mark contradicts Matthew this one contradicts that one and so on So if they contradicts each other how do you know if these were the words of Jesus second sure he was technically a Jew so what we believe as Muslims all prophets were Muslims submitter to God and these religions names came later so we believe news at some point in time were considered Muslims before they rejected Jesus and so is the Christians until prophet Muhammed came and they refused him making them disbelievers besides I have 2 questions I would like you to answer 1.if Jesus is god and he died how do you explain that 2.if he worshipped the father and said he's the only true god in John 17:3 so either Jesus was lying by saying he (the father) is the Only true god or your God has a greater god

[@alinbasic8736]

@YeshuaIsTruth33 your Personal believes are Not an authority for us, nor does it prove Jesus (AS) Not being a muslim

[@jaybjay4121]

Yeah the problem is its that jesus calls Allah(God) father in the literal sense of fatherhood thats why the jews pm those days hated him . Its not becouse of a sense of respect becouse not all indivídual are really childs of God. And sinse some jews used to call him father, why they consider jesus call it father blasphemy?

[@SheikhJakey]

I wouldn't say stretching the definition of father and trying to guess whether Jesus meant it literally or not is "destroying" this argument. Since you are appealing to the Bible in this video, granting that Jesus is allowed to call the Father father, let's look at exactly why you're wrong. John 1:14 - Describes Jesus as the “one and only Son” (monogenēs), affirming his unique origin and relationship with the Father: “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son.” John 1:18 - Highlights Jesus’ unique closeness with God, using monogenēs: “No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.” John 3:16 - This verse declares Jesus as God’s “one and only Son”: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son.” John 3:18 - Reinforces belief in Jesus as uniquely begotten by God: “Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.” Hebrews 1:5 - This verse speaks of Jesus in a unique father-son relationship: “For to which of the angels did God ever say, ‘You are my Son; today I have begotten you’? Or again, ‘I will be to him a father, and he shall be to me a son’?” Hebrews 5:5 - Paralleling Hebrews 1:5, it again references God saying, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you,” from Psalm 2:7 Clearly Jesus is more than just another man, and did not mean "Father" in a symbolic sense. Jesus was the ONE AND ONLY, the BEGOTTEN son, something that no one else could ever claim.

[@Seal-restrain]

Nope you are wrong. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. Exodus 4:22-23 22 Then say to Pharaoh, ‘This is what the Lord says: Israel is my firstborn son, 23 and I told you, “Let my son go, so he may worship me.” But you refused to let him go; so I will kill your firstborn son.’” 1 Chronicles 28:6 He said to me, ‘It is Solomon your son who shall build my house and my courts, for I have chosen him to be my son, and I will be his father. 2 Samuel 7:13-14 13 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. When he does wrong, I will punish him with a rod wielded by men, with floggings inflicted by human hands. Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. Quran [21:26] And they say, "The Most Merciful has taken a son." Exalted is He! Rather, they are [but] honored servants. „they“ is plural, meaning not just one person who has been honored. John 20:17 Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” Quran [3:55] When said Allah "O Isa! Indeed, I (will) take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve[d], and I will make those who follow[ed] you superior (to) those who disbelieve[d] on (the) Day (of) [the] Resurrection. Then to Me (is) your return and I will judge between you about what you were [in it] differing. „My father your father“ „My god your god“

[@SheikhJakey]

Wow! you completely ignored the point. Yes we are all sons and daughters of God, but the verses I gave show that Jesus is the unique BEGOTTEN son of God. the only legitimate son of God.

[@Seal-restrain]

@@SheikhJakey You literally completely ignored the whole verses which show that Jesus is literally not the „only begotten son“. Deal with the facts.

[@SheikhJakey]

@@Seal-restrain None of those verses say that anyone is God's only begotten son besides Jesus?

[@Seal-restrain]

@@SheikhJakey Israel is firstborn son. You got refuted. Solomon is a son. You got refuted Adam is a son. You got refuted. They are all honored servants and not actual sons.

[@JonathanLim-n5b]

A lot of people get confused with the Trinity. So basically Jesus is the Father, He is also the Son, is also in the Holy Spirit. They work together.

[@mohamedagha3541]

So the father sent himself and he died for 3 days which means his not immortal anymore and then he proceeds to contradict himself and keeps playing word games which took you 300 years to figure the trinity out yeah sure

[@Student11113]

That's not how the Trinity works. Jesus isn't the Father. Nor is the Holy Spirit, the Son, or the Father. That's because they are distinct only in relation to one another but are one in essence.

[@hildahosey9182]

No. Christ is God but the father isn't Christ. The father is a personality of the one god wow Christ is the incarnation of God into the material world. ​@@mohamedagha3541

[@shambles9055]

Jesus is not the Father nor the holy spirit bro

[@edafematthew8406]

This is just your personal take and not general You can go and argue it with your brothers

[@mohamedagha3541]

That what you say when you don't have anything to say

[@hmnNonn]

Okay, let's see. Just to make a few things clear to you before I start explaining here. WHAT I"M NOT TRYING TO ARGUE: 1. Whether Jesus Christ is God 2. Whether the Trinity is true or not 3. Whether Jesus is equal to The Father 4. Whether the Bible is corrupted or not WHAT I"M TRYING TO ARGUE: - That The Son is *divinely comparable* to The Father. Again, not equal, but at the very least, comparable to The Father. - I'm arguing *comparability* and not *equality* for you as a Muslim sake. - Also, I'm going to do this by using your statement that you made in the video. I'm simply trying to show that your statement *If Father = Creator, Sustainer and Provider = Allah* is no different from how us Christians believe and argue that Jesus is the divine Son of God. For this I'm gonna assume that you hold the view that only " The Father " would be the one true God of the Bible, given that this is what most, if not all, Muslims would argue. SO, *If Father = Creator, Sustainer and Provider,* then you're basically arguing the case that Jesus is _in some sense_ comparable to Him - The Father. Therefore Jesus is comparable to God. " Therefore Jesus is comparable to God. " is a strong conclusion to make, I know. If you don't understand what the relationship between The Father and Son really is, I'll try to make it brief. According the Biblical doctrine/theology, the relationship The Son has with The Father is complex and unlike that of our simple relationship as humans to The Father. The Biblical text *clearly* makes the case that Jesus is the divine Son of God, which Him being The Son of God and by your interpretation of what Father means, would also make Jesus *Creator, Sustainer and Provider* Why, because of many verses such as the following: _I'm mostly going to use statements made by Jesus in the Bible._ *John 3:* John the Baptist declares that Jesus Christ comes from Heaven and is above all of us humans *31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all.* IF, you're argument would be that anyone who is from heaven is above all humans, then: *John 5:* *20 For the Father loves the Son, and shows Him all things that He Himself does;* and He will show Him greater works than these, that you may marvel. The Father only shows the Son *all things* that He does and to no one else, not even to the angels. The Son has privileges even above the likes of the angels. I can show other verses to support this, but I'll use only John 5:20 for now like I did above. Also, the angles are under Jesus' authority. Matthew 13: Jesus says: *41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness* SO WHY IS THE SON COMPARABLE TO THE FATHER? *John 5:* Jesus says as the Father works, so does He *17 But Jesus answered them, “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.”* 18 *Therefore the Jews sought all the more to kill Him,* because He not only broke the Sabbath, *but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.* The Jews, who were well knowledgeable in their scripture, understood this saying of Jesus as making Himself equal or comparable to The Father. Also, the Jews' understanding of Jesus calling Himself the Son of God, just from the text alone, is different from what you're implying. 19 Then Jesus answered and said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, *but what He sees the Father do; for whatever He does, the Son also does in like manner.* In verse 19, Jesus obviously says He can do nothing by Himself, but He also clearly states that *whatever The Father can do, He can also do.* Therefore, *If Father = Creator, Sustainer and Provider* then Jesus also would be *Creator, Sustainer and Provider* by your definition, because he can do anything the Father can do. He can can then also Create, Sustain and Provide as The Father does.

[@tachitichi5545]

Jesus work under father (John 10:25) He Jesus continued all night in prayer to God (Luke 6:12)

[@AlonzoHarris911]

Yahweh is not Baal in any sense. Ishi is an endearment term for husband. It reinforces a loving familial relationship. Baal or Baali is a loaded term that means several things including husband and by doing so is a reiteration, a technique often used in the Hebrew Bible, but delivers it with a twist. As owner and lord. Muslims should recognize that that prophet's verse is in complete defiance against "the slave to Allah" that Islam promotes. The word also can refer to the pagan god(s) Ba'al (s). In this manner it also condemns paganism. (For quick reference see the footnotes in the Amplified Bible) The Biblical narrators were also poets and mixed the allegorical into their messages giving very profound thought ideas. It's disingenuous of you to present a one sided self promoting exigesis of this verse particularly when fuller interpretations openly available. This is the same intellectual dishonesty you claim of Christians.

[@Shobob]

im pretty sure he was asking this question ironically. He understands that Yahweh is not Baal.

[@Steneyco]

That’s what I‘m saying. He can’t even take verses with full context. Only uneducated Muslims use that tactic. Without lies Islam does.

[@cactusblob1688]

THANK GOD JESUS ISN'T A MUSLIM, HE'S GOD! THERE IS NO ALLAH, ONLY JESUS. MUHAMMAD RASOOL SHAITAN AR-RAJIM!

[@davidespinal7156]

In Christianity, Jesus is uniquely the Son of God, as affirmed in John 3:16, which states, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." The term "Father" in relation to God signifies a personal and relational aspect of God, one that is central to Christian belief.

[@mohamedagha3541]

So you claim he is his son so is he also God or just the son elaborate because I would like to talk to you

[@davidespinal7156]

@mohamedagha3541 In Christianity, Jesus Christ is both fully God and fully man, known as the Son of God. This doctrine is rooted in the Holy Trinity, which teaches that God exists as three persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit. In John 10:30, Jesus states, "I and my Father are one," indicating His divine nature. However, in John 3:16, we see Him referred to as the Son, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son..." In simpler terms Jesus is God incarnted as a Man embodying both humanity and divinity to fullfill God's plan of salvation

[@mohamedagha3541]

In John 20:17 Jesus said" I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God" Therefore Jesus's father and the believers father are the same and he also said my god does that mean god is his own god?or not And in John 17:21 he said "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me" so Jesus the father and the disciples are also one does that mean the disciples are also god? And also in john 17:3 Jesus says "Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent" Which means the father is the only true god and Jesus is the one that God sent a messenger would you agree? And in Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" And both of us know that Jesus is called man and the son of man all over the Bible so how could he be god because if he is then god contradicted himself And in 1 Corinthians 14:33 "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints" the trinity and Jesus's divinity caused confusion which means it's not true right If I said anything wrong or quoted out of context please correct me

[@davidespinal7156]

@@mohamedagha3541 1st: In John 20:17, when Jesus says, "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God," it highlights His unique relationship with God the Father and, importantly, establishes a connection with believers. Jesus refers to God as "my God," which demonstrates His humility and the dual nature of Christ-fully God and fully man. While this verse may lead some to ponder whether God is His own God, it's essential to understand that Jesus, during His earthly ministry, submitted to the Father’s will. This does not imply a lack of divinity but rather exemplifies the relational dynamic within the Trinity. Jesus, as the Son, honors the Father, while still affirming His divine nature. 2nd:In John 17:21, Jesus speaks of His desire for unity among believers, saying, "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." This verse highlights the profound relationship between Jesus and the Father, affirming that Jesus is indeed God, sharing in the divine nature and essence of the Father. The term “discipline” in this context does not directly apply; rather, it is essential to understand that Jesus embodies God’s character and authority. As part of the Trinity, Jesus, the Son, is fully God, and His oneness with the Father showcases the unity in purpose and mission. Thus, His prayer emphasizes the importance of believers being united in that divine love and purpose to manifest God's glory in the world. 3rd:The verse you referenced is from Numbers 23:19, which states, “God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?” This highlights God’s unchanging nature and faithfulness. Jesus is indeed referred to as the Son of Man (Matthew 8:20), emphasizing His humanity. However, He is also fully God (John 1:1), embodying both divine and human natures in one person. This duality does not create a contradiction; rather, it fulfills God’s plan for redemption through Jesus’ sacrificial death and resurrection. In understanding this, we see that while God is sovereign and cannot lie, Jesus’ incarnation as the Son of Man is part of His divine purpose to relate to humanity, understand our struggles, and ultimately provide salvation. The two natures of Christ work harmoniously in the divine plan of salvation. 4th: 1 Corinthians 14:33 reinforces that while God may allow confusion as a consequence of human actions, He Himself is not the source of it. Instead, His nature fosters peace and unity among His people. But in the result of Human disobedience just like in tower of baal confusion will arise from sin but not from God's will.

[@davidespinal7156]

@@mohamedagha3541 1.In John 20:17, Jesus says, “Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.” Here, Jesus distinguishes between His relationship with God the Father and the relationship His followers have with God. Jesus refers to God as "my God," which emphasizes His humanity and submission to the Father, even though He is fully divine. This signifies that while Jesus is one with the Father in essence (as seen in John 1:1), in His incarnate state, He acknowledges His dependence on God the Father. This reflects the dual nature of Christ-fully God and fully man. 2.In John 17:21, Jesus prays, “That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.” Here, Jesus speaks of the unity among believers, reflecting the unity that exists between the Father and the Son. This verse does not imply that the disciples are God; rather, it emphasizes their call to be one in purpose and spirit, just as Jesus and the Father are one. 3 In John 17:3 Jesus declares that he was sent down by the father(God) to speak the Good New of salvation, but he also reveals his divine role and his role has the Son of God. He not only just speak of the Good news but also embodies the message of Salvation. 4.In Numbers 23:19, we read, "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" This verse emphasizes God's unchanging nature and His reliability compared to humanity. The perceived contradiction often arises when people interpret God’s actions or promises through the lens of human understanding. Unlike humans, who can change their minds or break promises, God is faithful and immutable. When He speaks, His word is absolute and trustworthy. 5. In 1st Corinthians 14:33 Paul explains to the Corinthians that God is a God of peace not confusion he only wishes for peace, confusion does not cause by God, but is the rebellion and disobedience of humanity which causes confusion

[@sabirali7704]

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[@JinalynSalonoy]

why muslim call jesus a faitful muslim but islam didn't exist in jesus time jesus time was on 40 AD i think and muhhamad time was on 500 AD and muslim exist around 600 AD

[@Steneyco]

No, God is not Baal in any sense. In the Old Testament, Baal is a Canaanite god worshiped by various ancient Near Eastern cultures, particularly by the Canaanites and the Phoenicians. The name “Baal” itself means “lord” or “master” in Semitic languages, and Baal was seen as a deity associated with fertility, storms, rain, and agriculture. In contrast, the God of Israel-Yahweh-is the one true, all-powerful Creator who reveals Himself as distinct from any pagan gods, including Baal. Understanding Who Baal Was In ancient Canaanite religion, Baal was one of the most prominent gods, believed to bring rain and good harvests. His worship often involved rituals and sacrifices aimed at securing his favor for agricultural prosperity. Baal worship included idolatry, temple prostitution, and sometimes even child sacrifice, practices strongly condemned by the prophets in the Bible. Baal worship became a problem for Israel because it tempted the people to turn away from Yahweh. The Israelites lived among Canaanite populations where Baal worship was prevalent, and they sometimes adopted these customs, thinking it would bring them prosperity or protection. This mixing of worship led Israel to abandon the unique relationship and covenant they had with Yahweh. Why God and Baal Are Fundamentally Different 1. Monotheism vs. Polytheism: • Yahweh, the God of Israel, is monotheistic-the one and only God, Creator of all things. The Bible makes clear from Genesis onwards that Yahweh is not one god among many but the sole, sovereign God who commands exclusive worship. • Baal, however, was part of a polytheistic pantheon. In Canaanite religion, Baal was seen as one god among many and was subject to other gods like El, the chief of the Canaanite gods. 2. Moral Nature: • The God of Israel is holy, loving, and just. His nature is morally perfect, and His relationship with humanity is based on love, righteousness, and faithfulness. • Baal, by contrast, was depicted as capricious, morally ambiguous, and limited in power. His worship included morally questionable practices like temple prostitution and sometimes even human sacrifice. Such acts were entirely against the ethical and moral teachings of Yahweh, who condemns idolatry and demands purity in worship. 3. Nature and Power: • Yahweh is omnipotent, omnipresent, and transcendent, with absolute power over nature, life, and death. His authority is universal, stretching beyond any human concept of gods. • Baal, however, was limited to specific functions like weather or fertility. His power was believed to be limited to the land where he was worshiped, and he had no control beyond those realms. In the Bible, Yahweh even demonstrates His superiority by controlling the elements that Baal was supposed to govern (e.g., in the story of Elijah and the prophets of Baal in 1 Kings 18, God shows His power over the rain and storms, which Baal was supposed to control). 4. Idolatry vs. Spiritual Worship: • Worship of Yahweh forbids physical idols. God commanded Israel not to make images or statues of Him because He is beyond physical form and cannot be reduced to any human representation. • Baal worship, however, relied on physical idols and images, which were placed in temples or homes. Baal worship was often tied to material representations and rituals that were intended to manipulate the god’s favor. 5. Relationship with Humanity: • Yahweh desires a covenantal, personal relationship with His people, where they are to live according to His moral law. He desires their well-being, not just through physical blessings but through holiness, justice, and love. • Baal, as a fertility deity, had no such relational aspect. Worship was transactional; people would perform rituals and sacrifices to ensure prosperity, but there was no moral expectation or loving relationship. Why God Can Never Be Baal For the above reasons, Yahweh and Baal are fundamentally different. God can never be Baal because His very nature is completely opposed to everything Baal represents. Baal is a created being in Canaanite mythology, while God (Yahweh) is the uncreated Creator of everything that exists. The Bible frequently warns Israel that Baal and similar gods are false, powerless idols, whereas Yahweh is the living, active God who alone is worthy of worship. In Hosea and throughout the Old Testament, God calls His people to avoid mixing their worship with Baal’s, as this compromises His truth and holiness. The repeated rejection of Baal worship is a message that there is no true power or divinity in any false gods; only Yahweh is God. This theme emphasizes that God’s people are called to exclusive worship of Yahweh, who provides not only for their physical needs but also guides them to live in a way that reflects His holiness and love. In summary, God can never be Baal because their identities, natures, and roles are entirely opposed. While Baal worship relied on idols and rituals to control specific aspects of nature, the God of Israel is the all-powerful, living Creator who desires a relationship with humanity based on love, justice, and holiness.

[@deistormmods]

You wrote all this arguing a strawman, I feel sorry for you. No one claimed Yahweh IS Ba'al. How slow can you be?

[@Steneyco]

@@deistormmods first read and then argue my points. If you’re too lazy and incompetent for that. That’s not my problem ;)

[@tuhlaajapoika]

"is Yahweh baal in any sense?" No Yahweh is not baal in any sense, many isralites were worshipping baal at that time period, it was a time of apostasy and now God is speaking thru a prophet to his people (Isralites) , that when God redeems them, thay shall now longer worship baal. Just read whole book of Jeremiah and Isaiah to get the larger picture. Id like to ask something too, does the inner God given law in your heart justify sharia law, or do you hear a cry deep in you soul that it is wrong?

[@tachitichi5545]

(Mark 13:32) Jesus wasn't all knowing (Isaiah 46:9) God is all knowing (John 5:19) Jesus wasn't all powerful (Isaiah 45: 5-7) God is all powerful (1 Corinthians 15: 3-4) Jesus Died (1 Timothy 1:17) God cannot die (Mark 4:38) Jesus slept (Psalm 121: 2-4) God doesn't sleep

[@patriot-g3e]

So you are putting your own limitations on god

[@Ex-Muslims]

As salaamualaikum. I am subscribing to this channel just because of this video. JazakAllahu khier

[@Ex-Muslims]

This is very clear concise and to the point. How can I connect with you?

[@serban8298]

You're renegotating the meaning of your own scripture. This argument cannot be debunked.

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@@serban8298 this is the classical orthodox position lol cope cross licker

[@serban8298]

Well, your classical orthodox position is a renegotiation of the text to defend dogma, the same thing Christians often do when struggling to defend their own beliefs.

[@innocentodinkemere4597]

@@MuslimOrthodoxy Trying to wrap my mind on a classical Islamic interpretation of a Christian meaning. Conversely, will a classical pagan interpretation of Allah be the correct?

[@JonathanLim-n5b]

And btw the argument is not destroyed. God is in a spirit form. He can be anywhere anytime

[@hibasabbar309]

Can God be in the bathroom at any time, depending on your statement ?

[@TheTruthIsIslam786]

What? This has nothing to do with where God is. Also, can God be in my pocket by your statement?

[@hibasabbar309]

@TheTruthIsIslam786 I said, based on your statement (God can be anywhere anytime) Can God be in the bathroom? You didn't answer my question But for me, I believe God is above everything, like literally above everything.

[@JonathanLim-n5b]

@@TheTruthIsIslam786 yes. He is a spirit.

[@JonathanLim-n5b]

@@hibasabbar309 yes. He is a spirit

[@GlizzyGoblin757]

have to copy a christian's video style, just like how ur religion copied christianity

[@RoronoaZoro-w5b]

No Yahweh is not baal as Yahweh means I am who I am as said by Jesus.A better question is the name adonai related to baal and answer is No.

[@badonlikoy5571]

Jesus is the biological Son of God in the Spirit of Holiness and Righteousness, because Jesus was born through the Holy Spirit of God the Father Most High (Luke 1:35 & Matthew 1:20). No human beings or any Prophets born through the Holy Spirit of God the Father Most High, only our Lord Jesus Christ. Adam was created by God like Animals through only the breath of life of God (Genesis 2:7 & Genesis 1:30). In fact, God destroys all that has breath of life in it (read Genesis 6:17).

[@tachitichi5545]

we know that you (Jesus) are a teacher come from God(John 3:2) The God of Abraham,Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus (Acts 3:13)

[@contenthubtwo]

YHWH is not Baal. “Yahweh” and Allah could be Baal and Al-Lah most definitely was a Baal/Satan. I don’t get it though… is the point in returning the question to say Allah CAN be referred to as Father in some sense? Or to prove he can’t…

[@abdulamto9324]

I love Ure video

[@mohamadh2391]

No, wrong, allah swt is not the father of anybody and nor anybody can call him that. In no way issah called him father. my brother he can be called رب but he still can‘t be called father

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

watch whole video akh

[@Simeonlovesgod]

Bro is the cheap version of Testify 😂 and btw I will refute this video soon . God bless you all

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@@Simeonlovesgod what is there to refute ? Lmao

[@Simeonlovesgod]

@@MuslimOrthodoxyyou got the complete theology wrong 😂 Jesus is not the son of god in a metaphorical sense but in a literal sense . He is truly begotten by the father and shares the same nature . Can you say I and the father are 1 as a Muslim ?

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@ are you dense sir ? The argument wasn’t that Jesus calls God father metaphorically or not in the Bible. The argument is that if they did call God father, we don’t have an issue because it would’ve been in a correct sense

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@ Jesus said father and disciples are one are they Gods too ?

[@Simeonlovesgod]

@@MuslimOrthodoxy no you certainly have a problem since Jesus sonhood isn’t as understood as you donut understands it . Jesus use as the father reflects the deep and eternal role as a relation in the trinity . We can read this in passages were Jesus says I and the father are one . Are you allowed to say it like this as a Muslim ?

[@hvemkto6013]

السلام عليكم Please search the permisibility of drawing faces

[@SaintMarcion]

W

[@anotherguycalled6253]

underrated channel

[@iggy9226]

nah, he’s stolen @testifyapologetics template for videos; not to mention Testifys are much better.

[@anotherguycalled6253]

@@iggy9226 his entire channel is to ragebait christians and i find it hillarious. So yes underrated channel

[@YeshuaIsTruth33]

3:26 No, is the answer as the term was falsely attributed to Yahweh by man. There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave. 19:93 The Qur'an proves Allah is Baal as Muslims are slaves to their Master.

[@DreamIsh-dy5ix]

I think, Jesus Peace Be Upon Him called anything like Guardian; Like Allah is our Guardian. In Greek they thought this means Father and they translated so.

[@patriot-g3e]

Mhmm no

[@DreamIsh-dy5ix]

@patriot-g3e ?

[@mewnny7477]

Have you ever talked to avery? 😭

[@donzus9218]

na he busy talking to Christians who don't understand Trinity well so he looks like genius, he using the central dawah script like crazy 😭

[@SeekTruthToday_STT]

Your arguments are strongly weak. Weldone

[@marascx]

"Strongly weak" nice grammar there. However, this comment proves that you don't have a sound response.

[@SeekTruthToday_STT]

@@marascx I wish it was worth the time, but if you`re willing to learn, then I will consider it.

[@dominicfernandes-o5t]

Allah is the moon god😂

[@mohamedagha3541]

That's the most ignorant comment I read you probably either didn't watch the video or don't have anything to say therefore you spout these nonsense may God guide you

[@Steneyco]

Allah has 99 names. Father isn’t one of them my dear brother. It’s just facts. You can dance around all you want but Allah is Satan. And Jesus is God in flesh. May God guide you. Jesus loves you brother.

[@hothdog]

huh?, the litteral english word 'God' isn't one of them either, so what's your point?

[@Steneyco]

@@hothdogwhat do you mean? Allah means God 🤣😂 are you a illiterate like your prophet?

[@hibasabbar309]

Basically, you didn't watch the video

[@Steneyco]

@@hibasabbar309I did ;)

[@hibasabbar309]

@Steneyco Probably you didn't because if so, then you will understand that we, the average Muslims, can't call him father, but prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) can do.

[@YungShoe]

Christians😂😂😂😂

[@Usernamebreh]

this was so bad lol.

[@dawah93]

then refute it its always the same noisy kids that r hung up and insult religions but would be real quiet infront of the lions of Islam

[@Usernamebreh]

@@dawah93 lions of Islam hahahahaha. all he did was make an argument based on a false analogy. that's all you Muslims ever do.

[@AlonzoHarris911]

Woof woof

[@dawah93]

@ cry

[@Usernamebreh]

@@dawah93 thats what youll do in hell

[@Bro-tl7qq]

hahahahahahha

[@MkA-p9g]

First of all ibn taymiah is not a prominent Muslim scholar lol only wuhhabis believes tht😂😂

[@Steneyco]

😂😂😂

[@donzus9218]

YHWH was never baal in any sense but according to you Allah was a father in some sense at some time, completely different topic lol

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@@donzus9218 are you dense ? The verse says he was called Baal, and no more to be called that

[@donzus9218]

@MuslimOrthodoxy he was called Baal yes key point is where does it say he was rightfully called such name? he was never rightfully called baal as it was always associated with false diety... but Allah was rightfully called sometimes according to you. just saying the correlation isn't same lol

[@atiqaly6567]

Brother think about this again, and maybe delete this video, i have watched the logic guy lots of times and his questions are very tricky sometimes if you dnt really pay attention you will fall into exactly what you fell into. Let me explain: muslims say in the bible jesus worshipped God, so he is muslim. And they jump and ask well is Allah the father in any sense. And there is the trap. The right answer, is we believe the bible is corrupted and we dont believe in the bible. We believe in our quran only. We say jesus was muslim cause he worshipped one God just like all prophets before him cause thats what the quran says. Then we say even in your own bible jesus worshipped God so he cant be God. We dnt say it cause we believe in the bible we say it to show them that in their own bible jesus worshipped God, so he cant be God. I remember i explained this in one of his videos and he deleted my comment. Wallahu aalam.

[@Teddy-ke6xh]

But don’t you guys still take some stuff from the Bible and doesn’t it say in the Qur’an or there hadiths to refer back to the Torah and Injeel? And since it’s corrupted where is the uncorrupted injeel and Torah?

[@atiqaly6567]

@ we dont get stuff from the bible where did you get that from? And go and read again where it says refer back to the Torah lol youll find the answer yourself. And injeel and torah is corrupted, there is no uncorrupted of those two anymore thats why we say they are corrupted 😂😂😂.

[@Teddy-ke6xh]

@@atiqaly6567 yah makes so much sense because your god couldn’t even preserve his own scriptures that he revealed. Amazing 👍🏿

[@atiqaly6567]

@ bro really christians dnt have brains 😂😂😂 first God does what he wants, if he wanted to create scriptures and not preserve them then he will do so, this is the same thing as some people saying it doesnt make sense if there is a God out there why dont he just make everyone believe in him instead of sending scriptures and prophets? second are you trying to say that the bible is preserved cause if it is, how comes there are errors in there? So God made errors then?

[@Teddy-ke6xh]

@@atiqaly6567 there is no errors Bible is infallible Islam is a horrendous perverted religion thanks for telling em your prophet is the recounting of the anti-Christ in the very likeness of demons

[@carlosdelorbe5540]

I would decimate this argument if we ever debated the topic 🥱

[@karimmezghiche9921]

Decimate it here go ahead

[@MuslimOrthodoxy]

@@carlosdelorbe5540 ok let’s debate it

[@Steneyco]

Yes I know me too brother.

[@kromiekaze2277]

you'd get folded

[@carlosdelorbe5540]

@@MuslimOrthodoxy Alright, Let’s set it up.