Is Assassin's Creed Jade Sabotaging Its Own Reach?

[@mafiartx]

The game is currently in development stage and the developers are currently optimizing the game for the best experience possible. The game currently doesn't support controllers doesn't mean it won't in the future. New features will be added. Please keep an eye on the official sources to never miss an update. Thank you for your explanation and suggestions.

[@An_Able]

Ubisoft continues the trend of shooting themselves in the foot at every possible opportunity. Also... "Why is Level Infinite not releasing Jade on PC or consoles nor providing controller support? Are they stupid?"

[@LeoKRogue]

SO REAL

[@ros4m3r]

Y? ARE THEY?

[@white6505]

why is man trying to instal jade on his computer? is he stupid??

[@AidanCortney]

Aslume's Creed

[@kiwikemist]

PC or console I understand (at least initially), but no gamepad support? Crazy

[@icarusgaming6269]

This really goes to show how much the problem is and has always been the management. Even when Ubi corporate brings on an absolutely legendary developer with an obviously repeatable formula for success, they force their own insane deadlines and restrictions on them, generate *easily* avoidable controversies, and basically just make them into another head of the Ubisoft hydra

[@white6505]

sometimes i wish Ubisoft never got its hands on AC in the first place.

[@Deivid-bn6yw]

I’ve always said that Ubisoft since about 2017 has just been making the worst decisions possible. It’s like their management is on crack, every decision they make is so illogical and just pisses people off. They’ll make ghost recon into a battle royale They make useless rainbow six siege anti cheat They make a pirate game where you’re restricted to a ship which only hinders the pirate experience they’re trying to fulfil And there was that era where after AC Odyssey they thought it’d be really smart to apply the RPG formula to franchises that literally cannot function as RPG’s (ghost recon and far cry new dawn)

[@protectbabysif]

This had literally the perfect recipe to be something I would have genuinely loved. Really lore rich story with cool narrative beats and if they just launched on PC I would have really enjoyed the gameplay loop on mouse and keyboard. I'm trying not to negatively hang onto it as much and think about what could have been but it's just so frustrating how this series limits the potential of their games

[@LeoKRogue]

So many odd choices on their end. KBM would've actually popped off with this game, I thought Odyssey and Valhalla both piloted very well on a keyboard.

[@_gbk_2344]

First off, odyssey was hot garbage. Secondly, its a gacha game.

[@Kaino-wo3vc]

OMG IT'S SIF!

[@SamVarvodic]

I was keen on checking out Jade, but I don't have the hardware so I guess I'll have to give it a miss.

[@LeoKRogue]

Exactly. You and many others I know.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

mobile devices aren't the best place to flex your graphics, look no further than Apex Legends Mobile, game only survived 1 year in the mobile gaming market, on the other hand, BanG Dream! is still living fine.

[@fiel81]

Why are we here? Just to suffer?

[@LeoKRogue]

Every time I can still feel my Hidden Blade

[@nishikantpanda8211]

​@@LeoKRogueThat came out wrong 😂

[@LeoKRogue]

@@nishikantpanda8211 >:]

[@frankkball]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@bigboss4993]

LIQUID!!!

[@TheBreadPirate]

Thanks for explaining the controversy. I wasn't aware it was going to be restricted like this!

[@AidanCortney]

The lack of controller support is really tough, because while those who are invested at least have options to deal with the lack of a PC port (android emulators like BlueStacks or Google Play Games on PC) I can't think of any way to personally add controller support

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, it seems like a huge oversight.

[@trambe25]

You hit the nail on the head, to me it seems like Ubisoft want's the mobile crowd without actually realizing their core fanbase comes from PC and Consoles. Like if league of legends can barely survive on mobile I don't know how they think Assassin's Creed can. Also really curious to see how long Ubisoft can sustain this live service format for. Hoyoverse have their 6 weeks update schedule and rarely miss their deadlines, with new areas available every year. Ubisoft is known to at least support their games for a long time (except hyperscape I guess) but yeah interested to see if they can manage their live services for mobile. Also hopefully a PC version is gonna come out in the future.

[@JustCallMeMiked]

If there's even a tiny chance we even get controller support, it'll probably be at launch or like an update further from the launch sadly 😭

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, and on smaller screens this game's controls are actually a clusterfuck so lacking controller support effectively limits which players have a comfortable play-experience _even if they have a device strong enough_ to run it. The wording they used makes me really doubtful and unwilling to even cope that it's coming or that they care about providing it.

[@AdityaSathya]

Not related but it is so crazy that they changed the whole story of the game. They removed entire cutscenes, missions etc.Removing all the lore intrigue from it and replacing it with this

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, that's not even something I mentioned because what's going to push most people away even before they see any story or download the game at all, is how it's limiting its own playerbase and falling short of modern free-to-play access-standards. Sif was really mad about it though, and after seeing some of the cool narrative beats that were there in _previous_ betas, I'm also just... so confused as to why they did this.

[@wonder2002]

Hold on- what? Jade changed the whole story??

[@NextGenNextGen]

are you fr? they changed it all? what is it about now then

[@imamfn]

Huh? They probably won't change the story, though. Ofc, those cutscenes & animations that are present on the Beta version now aren't final yet and would yet to be changed

[@white6505]

@@LeoKRogue i can't imagine how much they cut out from previous main entries, and how good those games had to be to survive Ubisoft and remain great.

[@drfop112]

Ubisoft being Ubi as usual...I hope they come around. I have the hardware to run it, but the thought of it being really good with such little reach really just hurts my soul. It seems like AC needs to rebuild good faith for a decent percentage of its player base and this is just not the move

[@SuhiroSenpai]

I wanted to try it when it comes out. I knew it wouldn't get a PC client, but I was fine with that because, even if I'm more of an M/K Assassin's Creed player, I was expecting to be able to rely on a controller... Welp, guess I just won't play it

[@rays-tfl]

I'm probably going to emulate this on PC, but the continued downfall in quality standards at Ubisoft are just crushing to see. Hope for them to one day return to their former glory.

[@LeoKRogue]

I hope emulation is even possible and supported, it wasn't during betas from everything I looked into.

[@gandalfsslave1202]

No Controller support is very sad to see. For me it makes it so i can't play the game because of some physical injuries in my wrist and elbow. At the moment i am only able to play controller supported games, and as an assassin's creed fan these news crushed me.

[@LeoKRogue]

It is, I'm honestly hoping the way they communicated that is a temporary statement but conveying no plans for it even is just foolish.

[@krotonval]

I feel like they'll announce controller support or PC after AC Mirage hype is dead, as at this moment this might impact Mirage sales and divert and prioritize users towards other games like starfield or phantom liberty since Jade is free

[@LeoKRogue]

I don't think Ubisoft are too worried about Jade and Mirage impacting each other at all, they're different games for different playerbases that are going to have minimal overlap. Announcing ports generally happens earlier in marketing cycles and controller support is just a comfort-feature that is standard in most games. Those other gachas I listed like Genshin / Star Rail etc, their beta tests have also been on PC while Jade's hasn't been, which is a very, very bad sign: games usually _want_ to test whether they work correctly on _every_ platform -- that's the entire purpose of beta tests, right? So excluding one of the platforms you _intend_ to put your game on is not something a developer would logically do.

[@krotonval]

@@LeoKRogue you make a good point

[@BarniDeDino]

Totally agree. we're literally advising them on how to make MORE MONEY, how are they not just jumping on this man?

[@LeoKRogue]

Maybe they just have a super sneaky plan, according to some people. Who knows, they might be right, but I just don't have it in me to hope.

[@Sebbir]

The decision to not include controller support is straight up mind boggling

[@LeoKRogue]

Truly.

[@zuzisam]

I would love to give it a go if it was on console but I know my phone would burn if even tried it install. But anyways I tried to figure out why they won't do PC and console port and my only answer is Asia market and AC Red. China itself has massive mobile player base and that alone (along with the IP) will catapult Jade to success. But oh, you want your "Asia AC" on PC/console? Not to worry, we got you, Red set in Japan is coming (probably) in 2024.

[@imamfn]

This exactly what I'm thinking 👍. They just don't wanna Jade to outshine their main RPGs

[@LeoKRogue]

That's a possibility but increasing its availability doesn't _reduce_ your playerbase, right? Red's not coming for a while still and that's a lot of time during which they're leaving money and engagement on the table IMO.

[@zuzisam]

@@LeoKRogue Of course it doesn't reduce player base but if that was the only concern we wouldn't have things PS exclusives, I mean, isn't it in their best interest to sell the games all around? Yes and no, they want their consoles to sell more than Xbox, so they make exclusives games - now obviously that's different than what's going on with Jade but my point is, we don't know what kind of deal Ubisoft has with Tencent. Is it possible Tencent would make less money if there was a console port? What kind of price tag do you put on free to play game on mobile without your fanbase tearing you apart for that? Or do you just put it on things like Game Pass and hope the micro transactions will make a profit? Doesn't Ubisoft still want to make their "Infinity" platform for the games? Maybe they want to put it over there with big cheers and fireworks eventually. I don't know, I want to say: "They are not stupid." They know what are doing to make the most money. Or maybe they missed the mark (again) and throw sh*t on the ceiling and see if it sticks because, again, it's Ubisoft after all. (Honestly, no idea, would love to play it, shame it's not possible :/)

[@LeoKRogue]

Exclusives are a very different situation.

[@user-pp8xk8nw2p]

Hi Leo, could you someday discuss interesting changes and mechanics in this game compared to Odyssey? By the way here in China many players are unhappy that "our" AC game looks like free to play AC Odyssey, so its pretty refreshing to hear positive things for the game.

[@LeoKRogue]

I could do that at some point, yeah. It's hard because I haven't actually had a chance to play it myself so everything I've been seeing is through the eyes and words of others.

[@jobaki]

It's so dumb to NOT expand the reach of the game considering ubisoft's current financial situation

[@LeoKRogue]

They've canceled more games in the past several years than most other studios have even _announced_ it's ACTUALLY crazy.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

yeah, even without considering their current situation, it's still a bad decision, i mean, EA made NFSMW 2012 for mobile devices too. and that's EA. unless you're trying to innovate something it's really pointless to limit your game to one device. (case in point : Half-Life Alyx)

[@Flatter_Sine]

Man, they really should reconsider on the platforms available for this game.

[@AverageJoe87]

I hope they pull their heads out of their asses and do exactly that.

[@Hounlaiga]

I'm actually a fan of the Odyssey and would definitely give Jade a try, but the fact that it only came out on a phone prevents that. Too bad though, having a casual AC RPG live service would have been a good tie-up while we wait for the AC Project Red.

[@LeoKRogue]

It really would have, especially because this game has co-op. You can roam around and stealth kill or fight dudes with a buddy, and even challenge tough bosses together synergizing your loadouts. I would've played, and covered the hell out of that. That sounds sick.

[@Miducas]

Random assassin robe question, do you prefer beaked hoods or non beaked hoods? I personally prefer the former.

[@LeoKRogue]

I just love hoods. I have no major preference beyond that but the hood's gotta be there.

[@imamfn]

I'm thinking the exact same of y'all thinking, but I think I can see the reason why. Ubisoft probably wants to purposely split the player between PC/consoles and mobile. Why? I think because Ubisoft doesn't want the Jade to outshine those RPG entries that are yet to come next (this is purely based on my preference since I'd prefer to play RPG game that originally built on Free-To-Play idea & microtransactions around it, rather than those full paid RPG games that come for the past years). Afaik, Hoyoverse doesn't have their full-paid games like Assassin's Creed has. So, it's not a problem for them to put maximal effort into whatever games they made.

[@imamfn]

It's still my hypothesis, sure. But, idk, I have so much hype on Jade more than I have on Valhalla (which went live-service like for around 3 years before its final act ending). Also, since Jade isn't the main entries, IDGAF about the canonical about its ever expanding story.

[@LeoKRogue]

That might make some kind of sense but when you pay for, say, Mirage, you're paying for a complete experience with a beginning middle and end. Jade doesn't provide that -- it's about a daily play-experience with a content drip over time so it doesn't seem to me like they'd interfere with each other anyway.

[@imamfn]

@@LeoKRogue I think the "daily-play-experience" isn't the exclusive thing for Jade/other Ubisoft FTP games, though. Again, it's been proven quite successful with Ubisoft's paid game like Valhalla and maybe GR Breakpoint & The Division 2 from other franchises (since both have similar things with minimal story added to it). Also, I don't think people were giving a shit about those RPGs' side contents from previous games, though lol. And tbf, we still don't know how future RPGs would have their gameplay mechanics & contents. Ex: having a co-op mode or even going with "ever-updating, live-service like" contents like Valhalla, which makes it similar to Jade

[@themedjay358]

Great video, once again. Keep up the great work!!!!!

[@LeoKRogue]

Thanks, I will.

[@sub-zero7139]

when is the mirage dev diaries video coming out? also what’s your opinion on the game informer footage?

[@LeoKRogue]

Are all the dev diaries even out? I haven't been keeping up honestly. Game Informer footage looks good! I want to see more just random footage like that that's just normal moment to moment gameplay, nothing scripted or whatever. The game looks overall very fun. Keeping my expectations low though.

[@sub-zero7139]

@@LeoKRogue sounds fair enough, and they released the final diary a couple weeks ago.

[@Brandon_Y.]

Will you make armored core 6 videos? If you made a starter guide on that game like your elden ring one I would watch it

[@LeoKRogue]

I don't know when I'll get it. :[ I have the money for it but these next three months are like the most game-dense release window of all time.

[@032_m.alfathcirrus5]

Man I just want a flashy parkour similar to this in Red, atleast if they can't make the system deep, they gotta make it flashy... at the very least.

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, I hear you.

[@Broox38]

Oh absolutely. And it sucks. I was actually quite curious about this game, especially before they decided to completely rewrite a genuinely interesting proto Assassin story but this just feels like another middle finger from Ubi

[@LeoKRogue]

Getting rid of that was certainly a choice.

[@JohnArceane]

Jade uses a gameplay loop and a genre of AC game that I have no interest in, being historical fantasy RPG, so by that alone I have no desire to go near this game. However, it's certainly puzzling as to why a company as obsessed with money as Ubisoft wouldn't jump at the chance to make their next Odyssey clone available for all to spend their time on.

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, I've heard there's a chance they don't want to invite judgement from Western gamers early on -- so their strategy might be to prove to people it's a great game on phones _first,_ and once that's passed by, launch it on more platforms once everyone sees it's actually good. Maybe copium but a possibility anyway.

[@hotboxhearse]

china is maybe my most wanted location for an assassins creed game, but its so disappointing to know its being used for the first mobile-only gacha game in the series also the ui layout and icon design is hilariously similar to genshins

[@LeoKRogue]

Granted, it's similar because it works, Genshin is a pretty good open world action-RPG, and a lot of what Jade is doing borders on console-quality gameplay, but... Then again, Genshin also released on PC and PlayStation, where that phone UI isn't on the screen. So the lack of controller support or multi-platform availability (for now) is just a sour taste, for sure.

[@rohit_parashar]

Even if I was willing to burn through my phone, it's really a let down that I can't use a controller

[@LeoKRogue]

It is, for sure.

[@AverageJoe87]

I am a dedicated Assassin's Creed fan, I own every game in the series including the two Nintendo DS titles (Altair's Chronicles and ACII: Discovery) and Assassin's Creed Bloodlines on PSP. I am very, very disappointed that this game is not controller supported. I'm more upset that there's no PC/console options too. I hope that a PC and console port are on the horizon. My question is, why couldn't Ubisoft make this a mobile exclusive for the Asian market and a PC/console release for everyone else? That would be a win-win.

[@LeoKRogue]

Even that's overthinking it, I think. Consoles might not be huge in Asia but Mobile and PC are massive. Those other Chinese gacha games I talked about released their PC versions in China too, so it clearly can be done and it's desirable for them.

[@AverageJoe87]

@@LeoKRogue Ubisoft is not doing good financially and I would think that they would want a return on all the time and effort that they invested into making this game, it would make sense to release it on console and get some profit. Making it a free to play mobile exclusive and locking out the majority of the fan base who would be interested in playing it is not the way to go. I doubt they'll make a huge profit on the microtransactions.

[@michaelm1221]

New 13 mins mirage gameplay accidentally released early by a game review site. Taken down but someone grabbed it first. Footage from first 30 mins and also some from later on. Tons of new stuffs including confirmed parkour design for towers and cliffs, manual jump (maybe), slo-mo weapon wheel on the move..etc. You should check it out. p.s Tried to reply this but the comment just doesn't show up. Replying the link separately this time

[@michaelm1221]

Seems that I can't post external links here🙃oh well

[@LeoKRogue]

I just watched it. I saved it too.

[@michaelm1221]

@@LeoKRogue Nice😁. Did you watched it on bilibili too? It’s not played by the most parkour oriented person obviously but I think you do see some noticeable difference. I’m a bit worried about guard’s vision though, doesn’t seem far enough when you kill a guy in open view and the guard has trouble seeing you. Hopefully the vision cone and detection is consistent at least.

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, not the best player but good enough to see some details. Basim does seem very strong in stealth, it's clear Mirage wants us to feel powerful when engaging unseen.

[@michaelm1221]

@@LeoKRogue just read the article accompanying this footage, apparently combat is still quite viable even with multiple enemies, but not sure if heavy guards was a factor. The assassin focus charges up quite slowly as a way of balance (it refers refilling with perfect assassination, whatever that means). Assassination apparently triggers further than it appears and guards have a stunned reaction window that’s assassination-friendly. Stealing is now a qte mini game with difficulty dependent on skills and npc levels. Also mentions some mission flexibility, ie buying a key item or stealing after. Outfits upgrade seems simple, the initiate outfits upgrades with three tiers and simply reduces assassination noise from 50 to 100 percent.

[@realMG420]

I’m generally not interested in touching games like this. If I’m going to play a mobile game, I’d much rather it be a small, simple, and charming time killer. But I’d absolutely give Jade a chance if it was on console or PC. It‘ll almost definitely pale in comparison to Mirage, but it’s still a new addition to one of my favorite series. I could run Jade on my iPhone 13, but that just doesn’t appeal to me. Trying it out on my TV or monitor with a controller would be great though. Odd for Ubisoft to not recognize that

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, what makes this a special case is that it truly plays exactly like a "main" console Assassin's Creed game in terms of moment-to-moment buttons you're pressing and actions you're doing. You're in an open world. You're climbing architecture, clearing outposts, stealth-killing and fighting enemies. If it didn't have a mobile UI and you set it side by side with Odyssey it would just look like a mainline sequel. Locking that to mobile-only seems crazy to me.

[@Miducas]

Whats your favorite assasin's outfit? In my opinion Edward Kenway has an awesome outfit from the back, and the second worst from the front.

[@LeoKRogue]

Altair.

[@joseortizreflects]

Yes, this game is hurting itself. I'm a PC player and when I heard AC was going to China again I thought "Yay!" But when they announced it was going to be for IPhones or whatever I thought, "No! Oh, well.... Too bad I guess." The reason I bought Liberation is because it came out on the PC. Other games like Bloodlines are still waiting because I don't have a PS Portable and neither do I have an emulator to play that type of game and it never came out officially on the PC. Oh well....

[@deskrabbit2190]

I would love to play this game but if it's on mobile only there's no chance I will. Absolute no brainer that they've passed up

[@Idarak1]

Last game I played on mobile was Angry Birds... even if I had the hardware I'm not interested in playing an AC game on a tiny screen. Guess this'll be the first game in the series I miss out on on

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, what sucks about it is that the only thing that makes this a "mobile game" is that... it's an Assassin's Creed game running on mobile devices. I know that sounds stupid to say but it really is a full-featured console-quality game that would play perfectly great on consoles or PC.

[@Idarak1]

It looks great and I'm obviously behind the times where mobile games can do this. I still haven't played Valhalla though so with that and Mirage I'll have plenty of AC to keep me going for the next year+ @@LeoKRogue

[@idealityofsang]

Jade seems interesting to play but... I play on console only unfortunately. It looks pretty cool

[@Kaino-wo3vc]

Wish they brought back Ac Identity, that game is my childhood

[@LeoKRogue]

Identity was actually super cool haha

[@NoahStavish]

I'm not playing Jade because I don't have the hardware to support it. If it came to PC or Xbox, I probably would play it because I hate myself. Also as a game dev working on a game that's going to launch on PC, console, and mobile, I see no reason why Level Infinite wouldn't do the same.

[@Gabriel-l]

I think the intended market for Assassin's Creed Jade is the Chinese market. Seems rather evident from the point you made about Ubisoft's nothing burger response to controller support. Mobile is the preferred choice of 'gaming' for the Chinese by a overwhelming margin, if you can even call mobile games 'gaming'. Regardless, it seems like Ubisoft will be taking advantage of that preference.

[@LeoKRogue]

Be that as it may, Hoyoverse and Kuro Game are both Chinese companies, whose main audience is also Chinese mobile gamers. They both offer controller support and PC ports while Jade is offering neither. At least controller support for mobile devices would be very reasonable in this case, I would think. And yeah, modern mobile games with AAA-quality gameplay are getting better and better nowadays, so there's really no excuse to limit this thing's reach. See again, Genshin Impact, Punishing Gray Raven etc.

[@LastGreatDen]

I was going to pass on this one until they announced the closed beta. Something clicked, and I wanted to apply! Big fan of the series, dabled in Genshin, lets give it a shot yeah? Until I get to the question asking what kind of phone I have, and I realize there's no way I can run this, and I *just* got a new one. "Oh well, at least I'll be able to try it out on PS4/5!" I feel like the game really does not want me to play it, and more and more I feel inclined to listen

[@LeoKRogue]

Exactly my experience. I genuinely want to play this. It won't let me.

[@rafaela00002]

Didn't know they are making a gatcha game, but yeah might check it out if it was on pc, especially if it's a better version of Odyssey (couldn't get into both Origins and Odyssey because I didn't enjoy the gameplay :( ), but even if my phone can run it, I don't have space for an open world game

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah. :[

[@lorywolfsong1885]

Ubisoft keeps shooting in its own foot. Absurd.

[@sondersensei1499]

Can't we emulate it? I heard about bluestock or some sort of emulator some years ago, surely there are options for pc gamers?

[@LeoKRogue]

I tried but it seemed unsupported, and no one I talked to managed to emulate it effectively.

[@prxtatape6457]

I feel as though they’re doing that because Jade is presumably coming out the same year as Red.

[@prxtatape6457]

They don’t want them to be indirect competition with it

[@LeoKRogue]

Possibly. Still a bad decision though -- players who are buying full-price games and players who play free-to-play titles aren't a 1:1 overlap.

[@pattyotk]

I was willing to get a new phone just for this game, but that was dependent on controller support

[@LeoKRogue]

Alas..

[@huyvouc9785]

My phone is nearly out of storage for big open world games like AC Jade (I will definitely not sacrifice Blue Archive on my phone for more storage. My cute & funny students will stay). So if AC Jade gonna have a pc port like Wuthering Waves or HSR in the future, I will try it.

[@LeoKRogue]

I'm definitely not willing to buy a new phone just to play one game, not when I have a PC and PS5 that I already play everything else on. When I play F2P games I really love, I always spend money in them to get something I want and support them since that feels fair after I've already gotten value from playing it free-of-charge. I am not alone, there are many, many players who think exactly like me. Those people aren't being captured by Ubi and Level Infinite in this case, and they could be.

[@huyvouc9785]

​@@LeoKRoguetotally agree. Besides, having AC Jade on multiple platform is better, since people may switch between devices at any time. Back when I played Genshin, I used to play on my phone whenever I'm at school, and played on PC whenever I'm at home. It would be more comfortable that way, since my phone battery also need to be recharged after the time I play games at school.

[@Ishpreetb264]

Lack of controller support is my biggest issue with the game.

[@woodearthdvd]

It failed for me the moment it required yet another login to play in addition to uplay. Hearing no controller and pc/console just sealed the deal. A pity since there are even less Chinese base open world action adventure games compared to Japanese. This should have been the next AAA AC game instead of Red. And could have been their chance to make an Asian Trilogy.

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah, if I had a reasonable way to just comfortably play this, I would be very willing to try it out and give it the benefit of the doubt. As it stands I can't even launch the game at all. I wonder how many people are in my position, with Jade not really considering them important enough to make itself available to them.

[@FarazIFM]

I like having the ability to play on my phone but man give me a console port as well

[@navaneethsivan5861]

Even mobile shooters provide their fan base controller support and pc emulator with separate servers So why a single player mobile game doesn't have it??

[@matheuscifuentes3906]

i hope we will be able to at least use google play games on pc to play it or an emulator, because man, my smartphone will surely die trying to run this

[@LeoKRogue]

I hope so too but during betas I didn't find people who successfully emulated it. Even if it was possible though, a native port is always a smoother experience.

[@AkkayaOzgun]

It seems like Ubisoft are reaching into their gamer psychology bag. Mobile players invest their downtime into their games, while console and PC gamers have dedicated and less frequent engagement on a busy day. Daily/weekly walled content appears like more of a grind on dedicated gaming sessions while they're simply a reality of mobile gaming on your phone. Mihoyo has notoriously struggled with their PC and console players' demands surging beyond their available gameplay, limited by phone storage and performance requirements for mobile users. Mobile gamers have also been shown to engage in microtransactions more frequently in the same game than their PC/console counterparts. Pushing their gamers to a unitary option ensures they're maximizing chances of microtransaction engagement while utilizing the advantages the confines of a mobile platform provide against cross-platform availability.

[@LeoKRogue]

I've been playing Genshin and Star Rail since release and I promise Hoyo does not care at all about their players' desire for more consistent content than their games can release. Does it suck a little sometimes? Yeah. But this is the kind of game structure you're just not supposed to play that way and it took me a while to embrace that. On the dev and publishing side they truly don't mind at all, it barely affects them or their success. People still play, and they still benefit from being on more platforms, otherwise they wouldn't keep releasing new games on everything, they'd start locking them to just mobile -- but they don't -- so clearly they're happy with it. Again, Kuro Game do this too. And NIKKE. And Snowbreak. And most other gacha that are on Steam, for example. There's basically never a reason to refuse access on a platform if you can provide it, because even if people complain, you still got their playtime and you still got their money. Businesses want to make money above all else. If _all_ of these companies' analytics _showed_ them it was BETTER not to release on PC/Console, they would stop doing it. Instead, they just do it _more._ What do you think that means, and how smart do you think Jade is for ignoring that insight?

[@AkkayaOzgun]

@@LeoKRogue Mihoyo has a strong dedicated team with experience in this field. Their approach, much like Kuro and other mentioned gachas, are more indicative of Asian dev, publishing, and marketing culture than it is to gacha as a whole. American gacha is relatively new, and it makes sense for Ubisoft to limit their risk and concentrate their release to a unitary platform; it contains reviews, experience, and criticism to the confines of a mobile platform and doesn't risk flopping a potential grand cross-platform release. Ubisoft definitely has the tools and resources to release this on multiple platforms, and I think the decision to release this game on mobile involves a mix of purpose built player containment through game psychology as well as cost based resource allocation and an American corperate structure. I doubt this is meant to release as a cash cow, and rather more as a proof of concept before corperate gives the go-around.

[@mysetlist2118]

Yea I don’t like playing mobile games with enough specs to turn my phone into hot plate especially with the summer heat and my sweaty hands

[@LeoKRogue]

For real. It gets awfully uncomfy very fast.

[@Hefferr]

jade will be good for odyssey fans but at the end of the day, their practices make it really hard to feel any real attachment to it.

[@LeoKRogue]

I feel it'd be good for many more players than just those, since it's not actually developed by Ubisoft, which is something _I've always wanted_ and been curious about -- an Assassin's Creed game crafted under another team, another studio, another culture, another set of design principles, a sharper _vision._ Level Infinite certainly did do that, but... many of us won't even be able to actually play it. Wack.

[@DishonPlays]

this video describes my exact reasons i stopped playing the beta. all i want is backbone support. also no reason to not release this on pc

[@LeoKRogue]

Definitely, and I couldn't even play it due to lack of compatibility.

[@SIlent5130]

I dont know alot about this game info is it a gacha assasin creed game or how does it make money

[@LeoKRogue]

It is a gacha. You can pull for Gear or buy cosmetics.

[@jeremy123577]

See how money hungey ubisoft is, I'm surprised they would cut out a big potion of players in the first place

[@LeoKRogue]

Certainly confusing, yup yup, especially since _the blueprint_ for gacha success is very visible to anyone.

[@matteh-4013]

I have tried the beta and I was thinking the same thing. It’s a shame cus I won’t play it even tho I hade a great time with it but being only on mobile is a turn off.

[@matteh-4013]

To be fair tho they could port it later? at least I hope 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ht0sia]

Jade looks interesting, but Ubisoft already made a decision for me, so I am not gonna play it because I don`t plan on buying a new phone for just a one game. it is a real shame that Ubisoft sabotages it`s own game, again.

[@LeoKRogue]

I'm very much the same. I _will_ play this and talk about it / make videos on it if it arrives to a platform I'm already settled in on.

[@izamanaick]

ac fans expecting more a tale as old as time

[@LeoKRogue]

Not really about AC fans - just industry standards when looking at other games in the genre. Easy!

[@s0daapoppin]

It's like Level Infinite and Ubisoft don't want success and more profits. Like come on, it's a no brainer to launch multiplatform and add controller support.

[@mor4l422]

agree with most things u said tbh, id probably play it if they released a pc port, might even try playing it on an android emulator (tho thats probably against TOS but who cares, everyone did it with pubg mobile too)

[@realgamergirl4638]

can't wait to play this on my ouya

[@LeoKRogue]

LMAO

[@emmaelstad341]

From what I've seen the game is ok looks alot like odyssey as you said. It has a cool chain takedown feature

[@LeoKRogue]

It has so, so many cool mechanics and bits of design in it that deserve to be tried and discussed by a way bigger playerbase, honestly. I'm very unhappy with its stubborn unwillingness to make itself available on more than phones.

[@emmaelstad341]

@LeoKRogue I just watched another video the game is fully fleshed out could've been amazing on anything but moblie

[@arifsalahudin6673]

The only mistake is they make it f2p. I mean how could they make us play a free game 😯 I have no complain tbh 😂

[@LeoKRogue]

It's really not a mistake, if you look at others with that model. Free-to-Play is the most accessible and approachable, and with big IPs or brands makes much, much more money if monetized correctly than any full-price game could ever even dream of. Honkai Star Rail and Genshin Impact are free. If you're curious and want to be stunned, look up how much money they make.

[@emmaelstad341]

@@LeoKRogue big corpos stealing from us street rats

[@Omar-Asim]

Why did the internet community accept Genshin Impact but not Diablo Immortal?

[@LeoKRogue]

Because Diablo Immortal has bad game design, bad gameplay, bad progression, and coasted on the game-feel of Diablo III. Everything "good" about DI was already done for it by Diablo III previously, it has no strong or unique ideas of its own. Genshin Impact was an incredibly innovative game that basically spawned its own subgenre, inspiring tons of contemporaries. It's also much less predatory than Immortal -- like MUUCH LESS -- and it semi-regularly provides new experiences while (slowly) improving itself over time. TL;DR people accepted Genshin and not Immortal because Genshin is simply a much better videogame. :)

[@sarmenti586]

I was gonna play it but now i know my phone cant run it since i only hse it to play fire emblem heroes and didnt pay much, i wont be able to play on my pc either

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah... :[

[@DaimaGokuedits]

They definitely aren't gonna win a whole lot of support closing off console players, Very dumb move by Ubisoft giving their current financial difficulties.

[@LeoKRogue]

I'm sure they don't feel they "need" it, but other mobile-only games don't require a phone THAT strong.

[@DaimaGokuedits]

​@LeoKRogue I got my new Phone 2 years ago so I don't know if my phone cuts it when running this game.

[@maazmasood6601]

Nothing against mobile games but to see ac reduced to this, it's just tragic

[@LeoKRogue]

It'll be a good game. That's the issue. That it's good and preventing itself from being played by more people.

[@robertjv]

For a mobile game it seems to be more hyped up by Ubisoft a lot

[@LeoKRogue]

It's basically a console-quality game running on phones, which is why it takes such a monstrously strong and expensive device to even run it.

[@miqs9]

It's kinda weird ubi doing it exclusive on mobile especially after whole diablo immortal drama... At least if you greedy don't do it half assed

[@LeoKRogue]

Yeah.

[@geraltofrivia7448]

Genshin impact is not on xbox. It's like every game like this is actively avoiding the xbox platforms

[@LeoKRogue]

I believe Hoyoverse have some kind of deal or contract with PlayStation, yeah. Xbox still has fewer users in Asia than PlayStation, PC or Mobile does, so that might be a factor as well.

[@geraltofrivia7448]

@@LeoKRogue that's correct. However there's plenty of people from the us and Europe (places where the xbox is more popular) that play the game. While I do own a playstation 4, it's a pain to keep it out in the open when I could be enjoying it on my series x. I hope we get it sometime in the future

[@mirukuteea]

I wonder how jade will implement its gacha system. It'd be lame af just having weapon and skin gacha..

[@LeoKRogue]

You play as a single character that you create, so there's no pulling for new units. It's Gear. Different weapons can have totally different passive skills, active skills and depending on type, movesets/animation-sets. There's gear you can find in-world as well but most of it isn't highest-rarity so you still have a reason to pull if you want something super unique, flashy or powerful. It makes sense.

[@mirukuteea]

Although it makes sense it sounds awful for anyone who's played any gacha because there is just very little variety some skills and gears can provide for the gameplay, when compared to a game with a roster of 20-ish characters that will keep growing.

[@LeoKRogue]

@@mirukuteea I imagine they think they can get away with it because the amount of actions and abilities a single Assassin's Creed protagonist has go above and beyond what any single unit can do in any other gacha game you can think of. Depending on how unique weapon skills are they can really come up with anything that interfaces with Combat / Movement / Stealth pillars.

[@pekboy2000]

Ubi hehe xd I like the sumeru bgm doe 😩

[@LeoKRogue]

Yes v_v Port Ormos is amazing.

[@triplezeroxz5875]

Funny, I think I have a phone strong enough to play Jade and have literally 0 interest in it. Better chance to sell me if it was on console.

[@Pinheader]

The moment I heard this game was going to be strictly a mobile game, I immediately lost any and all interest in it.

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

It’s literally made for the Asian market it will be super successful just less so in western markets I will just emulate it on PC

[@LeoKRogue]

If emulation is even possible / supported, yeah. So far no one I know has had success with it.

[@Deatheyebolt]

this is good for moblie

[@LeoKRogue]

It is! But it's bad for the game.

[@sauloaugustomartino803]

guess I'll stick to the french catgirl

[@LeoKRogue]

French catgirl is supreme.

[@HarryJamesE]

Never seen a company so out of touch with the fanbase

[@LeoKRogue]

Blizzard gives 'em a run for their money, but in recent times, yeah.

[@toxpov3612]

i mean nintendo actively hates the people who play their games

[@HarryJamesE]

@@LeoKRogue we're all just praying Mirage delivers 🙏🏻

[@1313fina]

I don't even play Genshin on my phone, what makes you think I'll burn up my phone for something thats gutted beyond recognition? They obviously want to replicate Genshin's success, but they can't even get the basic formula right. Also, is that the Port Ormos OST I hear👀👀👀?

[@LeoKRogue]

LEGIT. I don't even play Genshin on my phone, but I can tell you I've spent an embarrassing amount of money on it on PC, and most big content-creators for the game have done the same, also on PC. Yes, that's Port Ormos. ^_^ Love that song.

[@adonisvillain]

I would not play of it does not compatible with my Dualsense. Playing on touchscreen is pain and shitty UI also

[@LeoKRogue]

The UI is very, very crowded on smaller screens, as well. Even moving the placements of touch-buttons around doesn't help much on those devices.

[@tomrobinson3372]

Sadly I bought an iPad for this game fuck me

[@LeoKRogue]

Ah, the delay news must have really hurt.. :[

[@tomrobinson3372]

@@LeoKRogue ye but il just play origins and mirage while I wait for it and red I saw your smoke bomb video for origins and it really has changed the way I play I know it’s late but I don’t know if you know this but I’m almost sure that fire affects smoke the same way it affects tools in origins so if you hold a torch the cloud will be bigger but I keep on going backward and forwards on that sometimes it seems it does sometimes it doesn’t keep up the great vides

[@LeoKRogue]

That's actually so interesting, I didn't know that. I'll check it out next time I have the game installed.

[@CrossfeetGaming]

I wasn't interested in this game when it was announced.... and somehow I was even more uninterested after this video. I didn't even think that was possible.

[@LeoKRogue]

LMAO

[@andytoskovic]

Bluestacksss?? 😏😏

[@LeoKRogue]

Not supported, sadly. Tried every which way.

[@andytoskovic]

Ah that’s a shame, having no access to a certain game nowadays feels so outrageous

[@Ic3h0rnEt14]

"Plays like Odyssey" *Pass*

[@LeoKRogue]

But _better~!_ It's why I'm interested, it makes a lot of important improvements that shouldn't be locked to mobile IMO.

[@Sampras8491]

Time to undust bluestacks

[@LeoKRogue]

Didn't work, sadly. Tried on BlueStacks, LDPlayer, MuMu. I wish, though, maybe it'll be supported post-release.

[@Sampras8491]

Well , if not , Ubi wants Jade to fail as maybe one on ten people have a phone poweful enough. Even more it seems to be an mmo. I cant see sitting on your phone for 3 h straight to play it@@LeoKRogue

[@qahiko_]

:3

[@LeoKRogue]

v_v

[@CartonOwO]

X3

[@sylnz97]

common ubisoft L

[@angelolima4811]

Just bring it to ps5 please and bring back immortals fenyx rising 2 no one needs another Clancy or crew game to many already

[@LeoKRogue]

Haha, I think their players would be a little upset at that, but yes, this game deserves to be on PS5/PC/Xbox.

[@angelolima4811]

@@LeoKRogue i think they will get over it after a week not that good

[@LeoKRogue]

You underestimate the passion of fans lol

[@angelolima4811]

@@LeoKRogue yeah true fans not recycled games

[@LeoKRogue]

Many would accuse our favorite series, Assassin's Creed of being "recycled" too, you know. ;] of course we know better

[@lukismilenar]

Sadly oddysey was the most successful. The worst game in the franchise. The least AC game MMORPG, lacking depth game.

[@LeoKRogue]

It's honestly quite a solid game, it was just created inside of the wrong series. It does a lot of really, really good things that could've been fixed and iterated on -- and that's why I was intrigued by Jade since it actually does fix a few of those things (unlike Valhalla which just threw it all away and made some of it worse; like stealth in ACV is basically unplayable.)

[@aweigh1010]

Real sabotage is AC Red having some african protagonist instead of a samurai, THAT's hard-core sabotage.

[@TYR1139]

Dunno about an African but why a Samurai, those are would be more of a Templar. Show off police under the control of the powerful that kill people if they gey looked funny by sticking by a code made up by rich people. Playing some Ninja to kill Samurai would make more sense

[@LeoKRogue]

The protagonists are an African Samurai who's a guy (this has historical basis, look up Yasuke who was a real person) and a Japanese Ninja who is a girl. Those are pretty sick IMO and you're crazy if you don't think so. Next time please stay on topic.