Is BeamNG a PROPER Rally Simulator?

[@ferrettankror1]

BeamNG dev here, thanks for the video, so cool to watch, and the awesome feedback! :DDDD

[@OverNightLuthier]

@@ferrettankror1 any plans for a rally career mode?

[@punchplay8662]

As somebody who spends way too much time doing rally courses in Beam, I can attest to the feedback. It feels really good, though not as good as dedicated rally sims. Overall my biggest problem with beamng is, as she stated, the cars feeling as though they're always floating. Thank you and the rest of the BeamNG team for the hundreds of hours of entertainment I've gotten as I violently roll off a cliff! I've been obsessed with y'alls project since the tech demo released!

[@knowyourjoe8826]

I would request that you take a look at "SleepyPants SimRacing" video about BeamNG and the suggestions presented there. I believe there are a lot of pointers that many would find appealing.

[@Lord_VerminaardGaming]

I've been playing BeamNG since mid 2016 or so, and the amount of progress they make in each major update is absolutely staggering. I can't wait to see what the future brings for this game.

[@Tulizukka]

Potential of Beamng as a rally sim is huge. Especially Beammp. First of all "open world" maps where it is possible, even now to create Rallies with service parks, road sections and such. Then if you want you can get out of your vehicle in the grouping and talk with others while seeing their avatars physically present and out of the car (even if they look funny). I even had experience where my friend and few randoms drove rally cars in Johnsson valley. When one was driving others where physically out of their cars cheering on the outside of the turn on top of this crest. Like it was so fun experience having real people to watch you drive. Might be a niche thing but i like that kind of immersion. You could in theory even have service park where other players fix your car. Then of course the modding, physics, etc. The potential is there and its huge

[@oppositeclock]

I don't think many people see beamng as a great rally sim as such, which is fair, because it isn't one. What it is though is in my opinion, a great base for one. There is an obvious temptation to back that opinion up by the damage model but it's much more than that. The way the suspension behaves, how natural the weight transfer feels, how you can feel the drivetrain working beneath you, how you can realistically slide the car according to the surface...

[@QUICKLAPS]

Preach brother Preach

[@Exteriti]

isnt beamng like an ultra sim?? so it should be a great sim overal?

[@dakaodo]

@@Exteriti Great sim overall does not necessarily mean better than a specialized sim focusing on a more narrow topic. BeamNG is a very detailed mod overall, but 1) it's not specifically optimized for simulating rally conditions, and 2) sometimes those details can interact in ways that disrupt a specific sim use case where a more dedicated and focused sim game may have been designed to handle those issues better. Personally, I love BeamNG. I remember bouncing off trees in Dirt Rally, yet suffering little to no damage. In BeamNG, grazing a curb or tree can spell death for the wheel alignment. The damage is great not just b/c of the cool factor, but b/c it provides a strong incentive to drive cautiously if the goal is to finish a race or stage. IRL rally cars DNF or limp to the finish with significant damage, and Beam really captures some of that.

[@DavidDyball]

I spent 2hrs getting FFB right in Beam today... It was a lot more work than any other game, but its good now. Time well spent though.

[@YegorDenisov]

@@DavidDyball any advice? Feels so wrong to me that I didn’t even try

[@DavidDyball]

@@YegorDenisov I used this video as a guide and then went from there. Generating your own LUT file helps massively in getting the output to your wheel correct. Then its a lot of time spent tweaking strength and smoothing. If you're doing gravel rally make sure you're actually testing on dirt when testing. I did it in the grid map as suggested in the video and had to redo it on dirt because it didn't feel right. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqeZl5iIZsaEeqMsi=WA0LPAXFM2jCDmkz

[@YegorDenisov]

@@DavidDyball thanks!

[@SP.Spittlebug]

beamng is the best! if you like rally the ai pacenotes mod is a must.. there is also a recce mode and you can make your own pacenotes or edit the existing ones

[@vmlm4825]

always a good vibe with Emree, i found this channel with a richard burns rally video, now I'm getting started in sim games :)

[@AaronRheins2]

Gotta love Beamng

[@giuniral]

I think the devs could improve the physics a bit. The vehicles feel a little too bouncy at times. It’s not a deal breaker, though-I love this game! Even with a controller, I spend a lot of time on rally stages and wish other rally titles had the same level of damage simulation. When I mess up a corner, I still feel rewarded by how realistic the crashes are.

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

It's not issue with physics, it's issue with cars and setups. Stock setups for most cars inside base game as well as many popular mods are straight up awful. Some cars also have really questionable kinematics or base parameters. Another common issue is cars having way too high unsprung weight, as it's easier to avoid game crashes that way - making jbeams is a mess and require a lot of optimisation if you want to have light car that doesn't explode).

[@BadWallaby]

RLS Career Mod is next level for spending hours messing with Beam in ways you might not normally :) I built a drag racer then a truck and bought a trailer to tow my car lol It's just so fun

[@prolosertheatomistic8101]

Been experimenting with BeamNG with rally the last week. I've been pleasantly surprised, the weight transfer, feel of weight in the car and general suspension simulation feels great. I think where it lacks is a more complex tyre simulation (in terms of heat and wear), but I have a feeling the devs will eventually add this too, given the level of detail and simulation in every other aspect of the game.

[@ekloki]

Beamng is the best car game never made... For offroad, rally, drift, truck, fun, carrier, etc etc.

[@HolidayBrick]

Biggest issue for me with BeamNG is the FFB. Motorsport gary's mod is right on - there is plenty of jank, but a lot of fun to be had!

[@oppositeclock]

FFB is better than people are giving it credit for. Also it's constantly being worked on. Last two updates saw noticeable improvements in that regard. There is still some input lag unless you run it at like 120 fps though. Some low speed shakiness is present as well but I guess it's a fair price for such an organic, complex physics engine.

[@3A--Axel]

To me it's one of the best in the market ...

[@givemeajackson]

0.33 improved the FFB a lot on DDs

[@mike_gread]

I just stumbled on this video, very interesting I have to say. BeamNG feels very realistic on less high level cars, like entry-level rallying (old sh*tboxes and stuff), but is getting more and more realistic on the pro rallying level (like Rally1 and Rally2-like configs for WRC)

[@andychicago8295]

in 10 years, BeamNG is the new iRacing. 😂

[@potatoes5829]

"motorsports gmod" is the best description of beamng I've ever heard

[@autbo]

Try the enhanced interior camera mod for an improved rally experience! Really helps with smoothing out the bumps and making things feel a little bit more intense. Disclaimer: I made the mod

[@TheQuietBeast]

Wow! Thanks for sharing, this co-driver mod you got seems great, need to try it! Love the BeamNG.Rally mod for their Italy maps add-ons. And also PJS Drift & Rally for some scandinavian stages, feels like home :)

[@CheffBryan]

I love doing goofy races, mainly driving '92~'99 Hirochi Talent on the Rally Italia 1986 maps. Got some 20+ routes to take and the developer said he's making pace notes as well. Definitely recommend the two mods together!

[@DickVanPaiton]

If that was the THAT was the most difficult task in your life, you are truly blessed

[@THommersom]

If you have friends to play with, beammp is a mod that let you play in multiplayer, this you do not want to do with strangers, because there are to many people who only want to crash, but wihth friends it is realy fun, you can see your friends crash, or you do not see anything when a car is in front of you. And do realise that every car is tuneable the standard cars are good for every thing, but if you realy want to rally, you have to tune your car. Great to see you tried it out, for rally, but there are also a lot of people who do roleplaying in the game, or just cruising, it can be a car game for everybody.

The most popular driving simulator software on Steam for a reason. They have still lots to do ( a never ending goal ) such as surface deformations and native multi-player but the team behind BeamNG is amazing and hence so is their software. The only software where the graphics and physics are one, and not separated out. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKnTc5Jjj7GCebssi=9QNgJWFEJQbxvlO-&t=41

[@v-333]

3:55 you can change that in options>controls>force feedback>{your wheel's axis name}. my settinngs are : force : 750 on 4 - 4.5 nm wheel smoothing : 30 automatic secondary smoothing : disabled secondary smoothing : 30 correction curve : enabled and also, i almost forgot : angle of rotation : 1:1, same as your wheel hope this helps. you can fibd videos more in depth of this subject.

[@fufuzinha]

loved watching her, feels good and less lonely watching other women in racing!

[@Zap_Games]

Sim racing is for everyone!

[@PebelWasTaken]

Relatable

[@vertachi8066]

Bruh

[@TOGSolid]

Check out Cookie and Cars if you haven't

[@mattgrover3096]

I never see anyone representing me and my kind in really.... I'm lonely.

[@jeffreylyons1531]

You can export your automation (car factory tycoon game) into beam ng, it’s a simple 1 click then your driving a car you designed which is really fun.

[@soloshooter5806]

I just started sim raceing this week, beamng is really good, good luck.

[@samohtlp1985]

thank u overtake you are grait😊

[@spacelube5845]

The Hirochi sunburst has the worst FFB from all of the Rally cars in the game.

[@v-333]

3:22 wait until you try the civetta bolide groupe 4 rally gravel/rally asphalt/track

[@martineering.evoluzione]

In the next months this game will be more than enough in rallies or Dakar

[@Cedar77]

If you feel like your car is floaty, try some other tires. Though I would agree that anything other than tarmac is not yet quite there.

[@gvnrchmnd]

You’re bang on the money when it comes to FFB. It’s pretty terrible right now but I’m hoping this is what the guys at Beam are concentrating on first and foremost.

[@nobeam]

You should try Spealer’s Flood Escape Crater Map together with the flood mod by Daniel-w. See if you can escape the flood 👍🏻

[@calinpetrescu9128]

This is the only driving game that gives me a sens of danger as I accelerate. A single mistake can end the race.

[@xDriver69x]

This looks very fun!

[@gameboyterrorysta6307]

The issue with BeamNG is that it has great physics and "base" but content itself (both official and mods) significantly lack in quality. Most high performance cars (outside of extreme offroaders) have god awful stock setups Car parameters can be just insanely "wrong" for the type of car represented. Main issue is unsprung weight which is way too high for a lot of cars in the game.

[@alxti]

try the bohemoth time trial on italy that comes with the devzero time trials, its a very challenging 40 minute stage

[@itGurt]

Its too bad triple screen support doesnt work properly without Surround and the UI cant be adjusted when using triples to not be stretched over the screens. Simple UI tweaks have kept me from investing more time

[@vincenzoilautismo]

tip : get the bonnet camera and increase the FOV to 100. you will have a better realisation of speed this way. the cockpit cam is bad

[@amr9347]

we need a modlist for the mods used on this video

[@nexusdog]

Is there an option in BeamNG to turn down the damage model? I've only dabbled with it, but some rallying looks fun I just don't want to have to worry too much about wrecking the car?

[@OverNightLuthier]

@@nexusdog That is the point! Lol

[@SP.Spittlebug]

there is no real damage model in beamng as like in other games, the damage is part of the physics of the game and every part of the car is actually simulated so if you hit something you will get damage depending on the actual forces that interact with the car

[@THommersom]

A group is making a mod, that gives you cars were all the damage is gone, it is called simpelNG, maybe it is comming out in december.

[@godieinafirenow]

Beam is my favourite driving game by far but it's not perfect. The FFB wants to just whip your car out in the most bizarre ways, sometimes it just back and forth with no reason to it, Other times like on tarmac it's good. I feel like the tyres and car weight is perfectly simulated but grip isn't, surely the devs can have the road react to the car and actually have grip, it seems random at times.

[@anonharingenamn]

For me I just can't seem to get FFB right in Beam NG. Esp, not for rallying or drifting.

[@mickaelsflow6774]

Easy! Escape the Flood is a great mod. Not quite Rally, but fun, especially in MP. But yeah, rally wise, the physics are not quite there, but it's fun. Or fun enough. So people come back to it.

[@pokofresh]

Yes, the answer is yes

[@mcgc3430]

I like her so much too. She is the best!

[@ricepony33]

You should just do a video of some crazy crashes, lean in :)

[@TheSytak]

How does it look so much better than ea wrc?

[@ross-carlson]

It doesn't - you're settings must be wrong. It's not even close.

[@martinakesson4003]

I realy love this Girl ❤

[@MrJeanjean2009]

FFB is indeed pretty bad and underwhelming, I hope they can update it because the game itself is great. For the floatiness of the cars I kind of "cheat" and raise the gravity from default to around 14 and it plants the car more to the ground.

[@OverNightLuthier]

I disagree, the ffb feels better than ever. For realism sake but I think you are wanting more effects so you can know what the cars are doing through your hands, am I correct?

[@MrJeanjean2009]

​@@OverNightLuthier I agree it does feel better than before. The caveat is that I'm using an old G27 wheel so it might be why BeamNG feels "clunky" I have to lower it a lot so it doesn't shake all my setup, but comparing it to RBR is night and day in my experience where in RBR you indeed feel everything under the car and it feels smooth. Maybe with a Direct Drive I would feel differently, not sure..

[@OverNightLuthier]

@MrJeanjean2009 i see, yes that would definitely make a difference.

[@ilkerrbr]

Beamng ffb so weak and non details after playing Richard Burns Rally

[@SP.Spittlebug]

i play both.. ffb in beam can be much better with good settings.. also it is improving at almost every update

[@ilkerrbr]

@@SP.Spittlebug pls share your settings i love beamng but when i compare it Rbr and Beamng i dont want to play Beamng with wheel anymore

[@SP.Spittlebug]

@@ilkerrbr look for a video by talks with noise. you need to generate a lua file for your wheel and then work on the settings

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Console is it for?

[@GreenJ93]

Nope

[@bluebird8004]

Console? Sorry mate. PC

[@guidofoc7057]

I play BeamNG every now and then (mostly addicted to AC/ACC) and I find the off-road rallying experience rather good. On tarmac though the cars behave weirdly, or maybe it's me. I would prefer to see AC fully modded to support soft surface physics and rally features, which thanks God is happening.

[@MichaelParktheFirst]

Emily always nails her deep dives into rally games. Never shys away from the nerdy details but keeps it short enough to not drag on.

[@izhangt3787]

Ahh simracing, new games? Nop fun? Nop, just spend money and watch videos about rbr

[@mynameisray]

I mean you really don't know what you're doing.. soo..

[@mesfigas]

you sound honest about BeamNG. its a crash sim Nothing more even Elite dangerous has better physics if you land on a planet and go for a ride with the SRV.

[@ross-carlson]

As a sim racer and Elite Dangerous youtuber this sounds ABSURD to me. Wow.

[@mesfigas]

@@ross-carlson play a proper Rally sim, instead of a crash sim

[@GreenJ93]

Beamng wasn’t made to just be a crashing sim, it’s made to be the most realistic driving simulator

[@mesfigas]

@@GreenJ93 i tried it for rally but its not there yet.RBR ,EAWRC,DR2 all of them feel better.BeamNG developers has done a lot of offroad work but it doesnt seem to focus Rally.sorry but so far is more of a crash fun game.maybe after a few years be a rally sim.also aseeto corsa csp preview tried to add Rally but hasnt tried yet.I dont believe Rally sim is too easy to make.

[@SpaceGood.]

@@mesfigas BeamNG is not a crash simulator lmao. It's the most realistic vehicle/driving simulator out there.