is Black Ops 4 Zombies any better 5 YEARS later?

Black Ops 4 Zombies just turned FIVE YEARS OLD today - and the zombies landscape has changed a HUGE amount in that time.
Is Black Ops 4 better now in hindsight than we thought at the time?
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[@MrRoflWaffles]

so we liking this new format? drop a couple more likes on the vid and I'll post another one like this later this week 👀

[@harleyjs4565]

It's really entertaining just listening to you talking while you're playing

[@Sicmunduscreatusest949]

loving the new format interesting to hear your thoughts on these topics

[@cal6041]

1000%, I love any content you put out, but this was dope to see!

[@NoBrakes219]

Very engaging and enjoyable

[@AzraeIlIl]

The overall atmosphere on all the maps on black ops 4 was breathtaking but on the aether story side of things I feel like they shouldn’t have used the old map formats like the tag der toten map. It’s sad to see the budget also decrease because I was really hoping for an animated cutscene for the final moments we had with our characters we grew up with too. I think treyarch should keep the feeling of spookiness and breathtaking views such as IX or even the mystery box but also I feel like treyarch should get rid of the operators and bring a set zombie crew that interact and talk about the story to make ourselves feel more involved with the story

[@Teziiy]

I genuinely enjoyed just seeing and hearing you talking whilst playing a zombies map. honestly, i feel like you should do this again.

[@haque1974]

I agree

[@Antwon167]

Same

[@feenix1033]

I agree, but I feel like that's probably because we're hardcore zombies fans who want to reminisce. Zombies has been an utter disgrace ever since Cold War. Unless we get something like BO4 zombies back, I don't know how Milo can continue doing anything other than this and pivoting to other games. Aint nobody gonna wanna watch Milo playing a bunch of objective based Warzone maps with Zombies in them.

[@project4200]

Yes👍

[@xavierdaniel4608]

Agreed!

[@snoopystock6928]

I love the casual zombies videos. No insane lore talk, no insane Easter egg hunt. Just Milo playing zombies and talking about what he wants. I really really really love this milo

[@MrRoflWaffles]

noted, snoopy! more to come :)

[@ProjectSerpo90]

⁠@@MrRoflWafflesi second that Milo. And I agree, I really miss Chaos in hindsight. I absolutely hate that it’s the only COD zombie game I couldnt beat one Easter egg on but oh well. The maps were really cool and although I never got to play Ancient Evil, watching you, Noah and Dalek play…it’s one of my favorite looking maps and I love the story in it. Would love more of these videos. Hope you get feeling better soon brother, getting older is no fun. Love from the USA.

[@MonkeyD.Moritz]

@@ProjectSerpo90why did you never get to play ancient evil? I never did either cause I had to stop playing a few days after release (went abroad) and I just redownloaded the game and am probably going to buy the dlcs lmao bo6 got me hyped for zombies again

[@DestinyCool202]

I really wish Treyarch were able to do what they originally wanted to do with BO4 zombies, but they had to take over Sledgehammer’s 2020 cod spot since their game wasn’t ready. Treyarch has been getting screwed a lot.

[@zombieman34]

I really hope because they haven’t put much into what they were forced into for Vanguard and MW3 (2023) that CoD 2024 zombies is Top 3 because they’ve basically had 4 years, even though 2 of them had like 5 people off to the side making Vanguard and MW3

[@edgard142ndofwelshdale7]

I will not believe the heresy and lies I am hearing. We’re not old. You’re .. idk. You’re wrong! Shadows of Evil is only 2 years old! You can’t fool me!

[@TacoFusion]

Well now they’ve been getting the most time a cod game has ever to be developed so hopefully their new game really pulls through

[@jeremyroberts8822]

@@TacoFusionsort of. They’ve had a lot of time but they’ve also had to pull teams of people away from their game to work on others. They’ve had to work on every game since Cold War. Vanguard they had to do zombies for, MW2 they did the ranked for and MW3 they had to do the zombies for so yea they’ve had some time but they’ve also been interrupted at every turn. They’ve been the most reliable developer so activision always makes them work on other stuff when they should be able to just 100% focus on their own game

[@TacoFusion]

@@jeremyroberts8822 in terms of their zombies team I’m pretty sure the B team worked on Vanguard while the main team was working on their future title and I’m assuming the same team that worked on Vangaurd is probably doing mw3 because I doubt Activision would want to take their main focus off of zombies.

[@mrgadd]

I would love a year of milo just talking about zombies tbh, i could watch for hours

[@YODA88YODA]

I think IX is one of the best maps to ever be released. It’s aesthetically pleasing, stands out, the Easter egg was enjoyable yet difficult, and introduces a lot of fun mechanics. In terms of this video format, I think this is one of my favorite videos on the channel now. I’m a big podcast guy so being able to listen to you talk about all of this AND seeing the gameplay as a complete product was really well done. Please do more!

[@jordanw4344]

I feel like ix is the weakest out of the chaos maps, but i still put it top 15

[@bigandhairyrichard6333]

IX is so dissappointing, they used the colosseum and barely actually used it, you get a tiny room upstairs, the temples and then everything else is underground -the boss room, setting was wasted so badly

[@MrRoflWaffles]

thank you so much for the feedback YODA!! ❤❤❤

[@TheLazarusOperation]

​@@bigandhairyrichard6333You're definitely in the minority on that one chief

[@jcselement]

I mean IX appeals to casuals and noobs which is the majority of players so yeah, doesnt mean he's wrong tho @@TheLazarusOperation

[@trimuno]

My favorite memory of BO4, is playing a match of Tag Der Toten with randoms, with one of them talking to his girlfriend on the mic the entire match. Eventually, he needed us to cover the zombie so he could use the bathroom. The other guy hopped on mic to say sure, and I just let the zombie chase me. His girlfriend took the controller just in case, and the new round started. She downed, but I just made sure that I could do my best to save them, and he came back a lil mad, but he got his perks again and whatever. Eventually, I had a thought. I never completed the Tag easter egg, and I always did easter eggs with people where I was the only person that knew the steps. So I started doing the steps sometime in the 20's. Eventually, I got on the mic and asked if they wanted to do the easter egg, and they said sure. Whenever I needed them to do something, they'd do it. We ended up doing the final step on something stupid like round 39, but since I didn't even finish the video walk through, and they had no idea what was going on, we ended up losing that game. They just thought it was fun that the entire map went red and they had no idea what I had done. Some comradery with some random people. In a general sense, Black Ops 3 is where most of the people I used to play with stopped playing. Whether that be the games fault or just life choices of theirs, the game as it stands still created memories and moments I can't get anywhere else. I've been with it since World at War where Der Riese pack a punch was such new feature, and seeing it grow into what it is now is kinda disheartening, but I also understand that somethings aren't entirely in the control of the devs. I can be sad for the direction that zombies has gone to, but at the end of the day I don't get on as much as I used to either. I'll slip on the occasional Black Ops 3 Origins, or ask my cousin who has cold war to hop on, but now I just relegate it to something I have fondness over. I don't play BO4, but I also don't play Black Ops or BO2 either. Just BO3 and Cold War. I might give BO4 another chance here soon, because I only played Voyage once, and hated it. Don't remember anything from Alpha Omega at all, and remember trying to do the Blood of the Dead easter egg only once. The appeal never got me, and I did not enjoy any of the Chaos maps. Whenever I see the map with the oracle on tier lists as something better than other maps, I get confused. It never made sense to me, but that's just one man's opinion.

[@jonahkolell]

I only bought BO4 because a good friend bought it and said he would play zombies with the group if anyone else bought it. I hadn't played since bo2. The game originally felt weird and out of place. But after doing the IX Easter egg, I was hooked. Also, in hindsight, having the juggernaut health boost as a default in the game made it better. Allowing for diversity in perk biuld. After the first dlc came out, they updated the game so that having all four perks gave you the speed cola effect for free. If this perk system was brought back I would be interested in buying zombies again

[@tenmiozi]

Honestly, the new zombies mode makes BO4 look like a masterpiece and I love every piece of it.

[@bigf00tgaming37]

I mean BO4 zombies has always been a masterpiece, the problem was it got rushed out before they could fix the bugs and crash issues. Game was not stable, so if we lived in the world where it was stable then it might've been better than BO3.

[@BudRV]

Same here

[@parkerdavis7859]

bo4 was literally always the best game in the franchise

[@KomodoVenomX]

@@parkerdavis7859take your meds

[@danskrr]

@@parkerdavis7859no it’s not lol, it’s always been bo3

[@Vextral4653]

i actually remember reading an article saying that the reason why when you're older time seems like it zooms by is because you're no longer absorbing information anymore. mainly meaning you're no longer in school constantly learning new things

[@MrRoflWaffles]

that is kinda tragic tbh i miss the days of my brain being a sponge haha

[@ItsNolanRMG]

Liberty falls makes bo4 look like a masterpiece

[@doublea5482]

dude why is he so happy with the new black ops 6 zombies when he was saying this 10 months ago, it literally is cold war/MWIII zombies lol. 15:20

[@the_seer_0421]

But then you remember terminus exists

[@DrMonty-yr1kc]

@@doublea5482Well he saw new trailers? Things change in 10 months jfc 😂

[@ey1615]

@@the_seer_0421 Then you also remember that the gameplay is doodoo like in CW

[@the_seer_0421]

@@ey1615 the gameplay isn't bad in cold war, most of the gameplay systems are well implemented and the general gameplay is fun just way too easy and can get boring faster because of that. If they up the difficulty, at least in terminus then it will be probably great.

[@pufko]

I honestly think it would be cool if they made a dedicated zombies game that received updates based on the active COD game. Imagine a persistent game, where we receive new maps and story throughout the year and the devs aren't pulled in 30 directions. It is so frustrating that Zombies always feels like an afterthought rather than a priority nowadays.

[@Fxrrxt2x]

I think anything that isn't Warzone is just an after thought to Activision. I heard MP fans have been getting shafted, as well. Honestly, how much work do they really even put into Warzone? From the outside looking in, it doesn't look like it's changing apart from getting new maps. It's not like Fortnite.

[@Jack-bs5kt]

Trust me, if this was more profitable than putting a mediocre mode in every single new cod title, they would do it.

[@SleepyKurisu]

Man I would honestly just be happy having a game where it's every treyarch zombies map before coldwar all using the bo3 system with current day graphics

[@danw8326]

Even if you had to pay 1/2 price of the full game every time a new games comes out I’d pay it. $35 for new zombies every year/couple years? Hell yeah

[@obi-wanjabronii]

We've been wanting that for a decade and I've accepted it's just never gonna happen, at the most we'll get a complete release of every map but that's all

[@DefinitelyNot_Ai_Probably]

02:15 when your talking about time flying by, my grandma used to say “the days are long but the years are short” and it’s always felt true to me

[@ThePSNnerd]

me and my buddy did every easter egg in bo4 over the summer for the first time and it was one of my favorite gaming experiences, massively underrated imo

[@TeddyRicketson]

how did yall handle Voyage of Despair boss fight with 2 people? Been brutal for me and my buddy

[@ThePSNnerd]

@@TeddyRicketson you both need helion salvo upgraded and get hommonculus and crackens and we used some elixirs like ammos and insta kills, just make sure you and your buddy take turns throwing hommonculus and watch for the que from the boss the light it up with the salvo, it took a few attempts for us but youll get it. we also both had the staff of ra and if someone goes down you revive with the staff and they keep perks, you can also plant the staff down and if you go down it doesnt matter because the staff will revive you with your perks

[@EnoBuddy]

i did literally the same thing with a Buddy. To platinum this game was the best game experience I've ever had with any game. BO 4 is certainly not perfect but for me the best game out there.

[@thereesebonneau]

Was it really?? Looking back I didn’t play enough BO4 so I’m going to go back and try it. Which maps are actually good could you tell me where to start ???

[@EnoBuddy]

@@thereesebonneau XI is an awesome map, it's the most fun tho I would say..Dead of the Night is the second best, then voyage(where else can you play on the titanic), ancient evil is good too..I would recommend you to start with XI...bo4 is so good, I've bought it a second time just to get all achievements once again..

[@evanschedler8636]

Imo they should definitely continue the chaos storyline, weather that is by merging the stories or just going back. I would love to see what they can do with the potential settings for chaos maps

[@starlightrains]

Bro it’s been 4 years let it go 😭 Plus Blundell doesn’t work there anymore, so it would be awkward to continue his story

[@tails1152]

@@starlightrains Yet it's not awkward continuing with anything Aether after both original creators being gone?

[@evanschedler8636]

⁠@@starlightrains I’m just hoping for what’s best for this community. Just because Blundell is gone doesn’t mean that they can’t go back to the story, I get what you mean though, and it’s definitely unlikely. I really just hope their next game can have a decent story, and not just throw all that out the window for gameplay, like Cold War did

[@starlightrains]

@@evanschedler8636 I don’t see how bringing chaos back would be good for the community, as it was in the least played non-vanguard zombies game.

[@bahishim]

the chaos story was great it was the perk changes and other things that caused the drop in players but the chaos story and maps were the best part of bo4@@starlightrains

[@joshporter5459]

You've always been the man for any zombies info. Thanks for all the work you've put in over the years, and helping me so many times to figure out things on zombies.

[@Yujiboygaeming]

Dude wtf i actually really enjoy milo playing zombies casually and just talking about whatever its so relaxing lol i hope you feel better soon about all of your health problems milo! and i hope you do more content like this i loved this video!!

[@ItsNifer]

My biggest fear with future Treyarch Zombie titles is that not only is it going to be on the IW 8.0 Engine (MW19 engine), is that now with MWZ they have combined and intertwined the dark aether story with COD Campaign. The issue I see with this is that now Dark Aether has to be aligned with campaign's storyline. It worries me because it will limit the creativity and the art direction that zombies will go through in the future.

[@Aldragon]

They don’t have to do Dark Aether for their own games now though, so maybe it limits Dark Aether but if they wanted to abandon that and go back to its roots more, then that would be a big plus for me instead of a minus.

[@causticcoconut715]

I cannot stand the MW engine like I do not want to see health bars over zombies heads 💀

[@ad16]

@@causticcoconut715oh dw you can turn those off

[@Daddy-Saxon]

I dont think you know what a game engine is ​@@causticcoconut715

[@Daddy-Saxon]

​@causticcoconut715 that is a design choice. Not the engine.

[@DropHazard]

I can't remember the last time i actually watched through an entire video of someone live comming gameplay without tabbing off just having the audio in the background.

[@macthefish7999]

BO4 Chaos story was my intro to zombies. I gotta say, still my favourite (despite the crazy number of EE steps sometimes). So very very sad they didn't continue the story.

[@CodestarOW]

I’ve been playing BO4 a lot lately trying to grind 100% challenges and honestly I can say I enjoy every map. After learning the BO4 system properly it’s honestly quite fun

[@Midnight7Marauder]

Blackout still fun too

[@Rowan_0161]

I don't know why it got/gets so much hate, The chaos story was great with every map being great imo, there isn't mutch I would change other than replacing the eather story with more chaos maps and therefore giving the ending to the Eather story it's own game. Alot of the complaints I hear about Bo4 happen in previous games but people seem to overlook them

[@riot9179]

@@Rowan_0161You are right. Aether in BO4 should have never existed in my opinion. After playing Ancient Evil, i literally didn’t want to see aether never again. And here we go, we got this trash ass dark aether story.

[@Underworlder5]

@@Rowan_0161 people also complain about the chaos crew, but... well, what do you expect from a crew that barely got time to develop before it got axed? every main crew had their quirks emphasized in the first couple maps while getting fleshed out later on. IMO the entire chaos crew did have potential, and actually did improve in ancient evil. i particularly found bruno to be more interesting than first impressions suggest. the gentle giant is a rather trite and boring archetype in my eyes, so i was fascinated by bruno having a hidden violent side, and that he deliberately cultivates the gentle giant persona to repress his true brutal personality. as a result, you get one line where he somberly reflects on how violence gets glorified in history, then another line where he bellows out visceral threats to the zombies

[@Rowan_0161]

@@Underworlder5 I completely agree, all of them are so interesting imo and feel important to the story, in the aether I felt that Richtofen was the only important character and the others were side characters, that's not me bashing it as I love them but like you said we went from no story in WAW to a new cast with little story or idea where they were going with in Bo1 to developed characters in Bo2 - Bo3, the cast of BO4 had a task set out that all 4 were Passionate about, the development between maps imo was good with them being strangers in Voyage to freinds in AE, I also love how it's a Cult and that bruno is unaware and unwillingly a part of it, it gets to a point where he is trying to fight it but can't

[@ravensmansand8285]

12:12 The fact that milo thought the SDM was a bad gun shows how little he played bo4 zombies… 1 shot headshots til 34 and then is always a 2 shot headshot no matter what round. It’s just a better drakon

[@LankyGinger22]

It's crazy when you mentioned about time passing quick. I used to watch you play bo3 and was so hyped and now I'm 18 just finished college and nearly in university

[@mitch.paulsen]

I definitely like the style Milo. My favorite memory of blops4 is playing SO many rounds of IX

[@CalixtoGarciaIniguez1898]

Black ops 4 zombies was a fun and I enjoyed playing that game.

[@zombieman34]

BO4 was hugely underrated, now it’s still underrated. BO4 was, is, and might always be a Top 3 zombies game

[@jahtheplug.no5021]

Horrible fucking take

[@KenpachiDP]

Top 3 is crazy lol.

[@bryan_350_5]

@@KenpachiDPbo3, bo2, bo4

[@zombieman34]

@@KenpachiDP what’re in your top 3 then?

[@catamount_gaming_8592]

Preach it brotha

[@nayeonfanatic]

I did basically a full 180 on BO4 zombies. When it first came out, BOTD and IX kept me and my friends quite entertained when it first dropped. But once we played for a few days, we were turned off by the Blood Easter egg and the constant blue screens and other glitches/crashes. We couldn’t complete the map. I came back around a year or two ago and did all the Easter eggs with my brother, and man. The game really grew on me. It’s not quite BO3 level, but it’s pretty damn close. The Easter eggs are a rewarding challenge, the gameplay loop is fun, and it has some of the most unique maps in the franchise

[@seanhodgkins821]

What i miss most of bo3/ bo4 is that a lot of the maps are just really cool concepts. Look at this map compared to say cold war. The atmosphere and setting of these maps is so cool and unique while cold war maps are just too realistic and boring facilities. I think there just trying to turn zombies into a serious game mode but zombies was at its best embracing the madness

[@Fxrrxt2x]

That's why I've always said that Cold War was basically missing the personality of Zombies, and the characters we played as, didn't help. You could play Samantha, which was super cool, but she was $20 DLC. I still loved CW Zombies gameplay wise though.

[@X82BIGBLUE82X]

Everything in Coldwar Zombies was generic and made for casuals.

[@itschris619]

2:20 when you start to mention that days start to rush past you - as you get older each day/month/year will be a smaller portion of your life that you've already lived. A kid turning 10 will be significant since that year represents 1/10 of their life, but someone turning 50 won't be since that 50th year will only represent 1/50 of their life. It's crazy to think about like that but just a reminder to try and savor all the days you have now

[@OMGitsPanther]

Milo, more content like this would be fantastic

[@ShonufZ]

That coin u shot was 1 of 3 for the ee song, good vid 👍

[@ThaMago96]

Im still having fun on BO4 to this day, i have over 1000 Hours on zombies alone, love going for challengs on that game

[@kekikus5026]

My favorite memory of BO4 was just talking about it with my friends and wishing to play it

[@nathanielcockayne2376]

The jump slide movement from bo3 was something else

[@fjorland_norsk3996]

not gonna lie the aesteatics of bo4 zombies was top tier. Each map felt like you were brought into an amazing new world. Its too bad most of the accomplishments they made were overshadowed by the flop they did with perk system and the core gameplay feel of the maps.

[@starlightrains]

I feel like people who say bo4 didn’t deserve the hate weren’t around at the time. It killed the community when it was at its absolute peak. People don’t understand how big of an L that is for a game series.

[@spideyfan1024]

Fr. During Bo4's life cycle was possible the worst time as a zombies fan. (Besides Right Now) The game was buggy and broken, The story was a mess, The game had weird/bad gameplay decisions, and the game was just piss easy. As someone who was very active in the community during that time, It baffles me that people can come onto here and claim that BO4 "Didn't deserve the hate" or "It was overhated"

[@WolfXBlade]

Thats the COD fan base for you xD Community during BO4's life cycle: - This is too goofy and cartoon - Perk system sucks - No factions - Certain maps were lackluster - Game constantly crashes/bluescreens Years later: Hmm maybe we took this *underrated* game for granted 🤪 lol

[@Fxrrxt2x]

​@@WolfXBlade I guess that's just the phenomenon that happens when the new games are worsening over time.

[@riot9179]

@@spideyfan1024It’s incredible how you are wrong in every fucking point lol. BO4 is actually harder than BO3, talking from experience since WaW. The Chaos story was literally amazing, the gameplay was really fun and it got the right innovation without killing the core gameplay of the mode. It wasn’t BO4 that killed the community, it was the community that killed an objective good zombie experience because they were following yourubers hearsay. Remember, that trashy ass dark aether story, along with that soulless boring Cold War zombie, was your fault.

[@Heisenberg-bb5fq]

I was around and loved it and i was right i mean lock at cold war now the game still does not work to this day crashes all the time, game mechanics are trash, maps are trash, wonderweapons are trash. Even bo3 crashes more often noverdays than bo4 that's a joke. Btw everthing after cold war doesn't count for me anymore it's trash cold war was the last good zombies we got and most likely will ever be even bo6 does not lock to great, i mean who thought gobblegums were a good idea to bring back that's so stupid. Gobblegums destroyed bo3 so hard it's not funny.

[@isaacjeterphotography]

Legit man, I feel you on Shadows of Evil seeming like it was yesterday when it was released. I was seventeen when it came out - a junior in high school - and I have no idea where time has gone. Years 18-23 were relatively slow, but once I hit 24 and am now almost 26 I feel like I have been noticing myself aging in real time. There is a YT Shorts trend occuring recently where it shows a photo/video of one's previous self versus where they are now whilst playing "Forever Young" in the background with the caption "when you slowly start noticing your childhood features fading" and completely concur. I go gym regularly, play football and skateboard, and eat healthy and I still notice my energy levels are not like they were two or more years ago. You just have to take care of yourself every step of the way and hope that later adulthood is rewarding. God bless, good to see you are still making videos.

[@leedagaming81]

Quality atmosphere and production on bo4 was elite

[@cultivationplus6719]

Im a huge zombies fan and I found with vanguard and mw3 the zombies world ended up not zombies. Fun in their own ways but I love the Easter eggs and play feel of bo2 and bo3. Bo4 was kind of the last zombies game that still had that tradition feel to it.

[@cal6041]

What a great video with awesome topics! It might also be weird to say.. but it felt nice and I felt less alone with my health issues at 25 y/o when hearing about yours, makes me feel less alienated, thank you, I needed this 🧡 (super down to see more gameplay/comms) big ups always Milo! 🙏🏻

[@cashmoneycockburn9502]

Voyage of Despair really soured my opinion of Black Ops 4. And I was butthurt about the loss of Jugg and the new HUD. But Coming back to the game and playing especially IX and Ancient Evil, I really had a blast playing B04, so much that I regret ever trashing on the game.

[@spire259]

I enjoyed BO4 when it came out. Good to see some more coverage on it. Crazy it's five years old now.

[@Sinxii]

much love Milo, been following you for 10+ years. Really lovely to see you just playing zombies and talking about everything from zombies to personal issues, really love seeing you in this light! thank you man x

[@AForesaidDisco]

Personally when Bo4 came out I played it very casually, never truly got into it. But now 5 years later it's honestly the main zombies game I play. The updates really helped and I'm actively attempting to complete all the Easter eggs which have proven to be interesting and the right amount of difficult, expect classified haha. At least it doesn't crash anymore when attempting the Easter egg though

[@BunnyPlays651]

I don’t consider anything Vanguard did as Canon to Chaos. Sure Alistair was Mentioned, in a radio but that’s it. Love Chaos though, hope it continues one day with the Chaos Crew. Ancient evil left it on a cliff hanger, when people were starting to enjoy it. Also loved seeing you play Bo4 and explaining the Map lol

[@joshuamacfarlane7781]

I will never forgive the community for how they treated bo4 zombies. It’s the peak of *style* in zombies, they just fubled some of the mechanics (which I personally don’t mind anyways). But I feel like activision took the negative reception as a sign to stop trying to be flashy and experimental. Now it’s just warzone but with zombies

[@SpydrByte]

I been playing since waw and stopped after bo3 released and just stayed on it. I just got a used copy of BO4 for Xbox because I ain't paying $60 for a PC release. I went into this past weekend with an open mind. Positives: Map, character and sound design are amazing. Guns sound and feel amazing. Negatives: literally everything else. I got my first crash 10 minutes in while setting up a custom class. I just literally started the game. I wish I recorded my laughter because how silly that was. Point system limits strategy and Play style. 200 health with specialist is absurdly op and takes away early progression stakes. Movement system was a downgrade from BO3. I never played coldwar or other zombies modes. Maybe BO4 is the least sinful of new age zombies but in my eyes, the downfall started here and the collapse was cold war with warzone and mp elements thrown in. Zombies is dead and BO4 was the first shot that did it in.

[@TheUltimateNavigator1]

@@SpydrByte I mean yeah you are kind of right with that. Bo4 imo is a downgrade from bo3 but is still great in map design but mechanics wise it did cause what happened with cold war and onwards but I think it ages better with each play, like at first it's very overcomplicating but the more you play the more you enjoy the game and like the new changes, I think the maps really sell it for me. Chaos maps are so different and are just amazing imo unlike cold war which when you first play it the game is absolutely amazing but the more you play it the more you realize it's so bland and just not well made. I also play PC though so I never experienced any crashes. I didn't have issues with the point system as I think it allows you to strategize with other weapon classes like snipers and shotguns but I agree with the specialist thing tbh. 200 health isn't an issue as the zombies are faster but the specialist is basically just a wonder weapon that you spawn with.

[@DylanoLandman]

My favorite memory in Bo4 Zombies isn’t made yet, it involves “Beating the Blood of The Dead Easter Egg” solo and Co-Op with Friends. I guess I may be able to plant that Memory when I’m 80 years old..

[@RavenCFD]

Clicked on a MrRoflWaffles video for some fun zombies, ended up getting an existential crisis within the first 4 minutes, then started pondering the smells of each zombie room. Maybe a future video for the zombies drought? Love you Milo!

[@SneakyG67]

i was IN LOVE with that mansion map, i know it wasnt top 5 maps or anything but i loved the celebs in it and it was pretty fun. all these maps were just good goofy fun BUT not the best

[@nathanielcockayne2376]

Had a solo play on 9 and it's great. Mod of the dead and voyage of dispare are great maps tbh. And the escargot I've had a few times and it's great

[@theboswellbros3784]

MRROFLWAFFLES I’ve been going through the same pain and aging with my body that u have been going through. I hope u know I’ve been growing with you throughout the years and growing up with your videos. I’m 28 about to be 29 dude and all the changes to my body and how time changes it really makes me feel sad but with your videos time feels more bearable ❤

[@Itz_Chloe_619]

I liked this chill Milo talking level with us while playing COD

[@moriwitch1821]

This was very comforting for some reason lol, you should keep doing vids like this

[@runescapelover9347]

I would love to see you do more of this type of content. I love hearing you talk about zombies but i also really like the more laid-back, podcast type content like this. Its something thats not very common in the zombies communtity and i would definetly tune in everytime

[@RogueEch0]

During your beginning comments about Black Ops 3 being 8 years old and Black Ops 4 being 5 years old, you mentioned that you feel the "time going by faster" thing. I heard the phenomenon described and explained as "A single year feels like it drags on forever for a 10 year old because it is 1/10th of their life. Meanwhile, a year to an 80 year old is only 1/80th of their life, so of course it feels like a very short amount of time."

[@mrmeownandez732]

I loved the gladiator map

[@EVERYDAYS29]

I got some stream and videos of it on my Chanel ☺️ have a good day

[@CarpetBanana]

IX (9)

[@DeathBaseTURBO]

Mate I still remember when WaW was coming out and they released the zombies trailer as the bonus mode, I was 16 when that came out, and seeing the first dlc for it as well Verukkt, people going wild over what the writing on the wall meant and the noises, who is this Sam person the zombies scream. I'm 31 now

[@rickyt5179]

9 is one of those maps that mw should take notes on. Very good intro map for bo4. It’s r ound base but has many challenges, makes for a good training map and it’s designed very well having closed/ dark spaces and wide open/ lighted areas. It’s a bit easy but a fun map to go high rounds with.

[@ConsoleBeast10]

Thinking of the zombies mode and the youtube community of it. It has a sweetbitter taste. You Milo and other zombies youtubers have been accompanying me through my teenage days and it's just beautiful to witness that we're growing older and can look back on so much. It's been hell of an adventure thus far. Nice to see how each and everyone has made their way through life but still enjoying zombies all together.

[@stancompton4069]

in relation to the pink coin there is a fixed coin spawn in all 4 towers that when shot will play a copywrited song ps. the other coins are all different collors

[@115sleigher9]

To be honest given the modern state of zombies BO4 feels like a great game that we didn't appreciate it at the time due to its changes

[@bloontd452]

black ops 4 is so underrated keep it up milo great work

[@Spongeblud.sigmapants]

i agree

[@DanHosler]

Not underrated but under appreciated for sure

[@primedasymmium]

It amazes me when having followed a youtuber like Milo for more than a decade and growing up through the same phases with those people you're watching for years

[@nathanielcockayne2376]

Dude I've just re downloaded this game due the mw3 zombies looking trash for a true og zombies fan stand point. And it's just as good as ever. You know what it is. You know the score nothing more

[@crab-time1]

this format is really good at creating more personal and down-to-earth content which i love, especially from a much larger channel like this. it creates a much better connection compared to some other channels that just blast typical youtuber jargon down our throats, and it shows that you actually care about your audience. id love to see this style again!

[@MrRoflWaffles]

thanks crab!! I'll definitely be bringing it back :)

[@BudRV]

I still want a Milo, and Code Name Pizza,Noa.. And couple other KZbinrs as playable Characters. I've been talking about this for a few years now. The zombie community and especially the Devs owe them a lot! Could you imagine paying as Milo, "Hello Guys" and some of the other things he says! Be awesome!

[@henry3441]

Would be awesome to see you stream playing through every bo4 map again

[@RussThe3rd]

I remember when this first came out, I thought it was just okay, but going back to it recently made me appreciate it a lot more. It was so awesome. The direction zombies has gone since this game is kinda sad. It has no soul and I feel like it’s lost its identity. I’d kill to have zombies feel like this again.

[@RockerxxRicardo]

The problem with chaos is that they introduced it in the worst way imaginable. They started the storyline at the same time the aether story was still going on. Aether should have been all their attention or left it behind in bo3. Chaos didn't have any time to shine because it was a battle between the aether fan base vs the chaos fan base. Since chaos got so much hate they dropped it.

[@Fxrrxt2x]

Yeah... That was definitely poor management on their part.

[@krle7970]

Aether had soooo much run time already, chaos was new.

[@TheGibbletz]

The Pink coin bit absolute killed me... I remember the day one streams when chat would blow up about the pink coin LMFAO

[@troggy1898]

Milo your health problems (back pains) is from carrying the zombies community.

[@JonnyDouglasPhoto]

This was my favourite map of BO4 but I can’t believe it was 5 years ago. That doesn’t even make sense in my head. You’re definitely right about time going by quicker when you’re older. I feel the same way just now. I mean to think we’re half way through October already is nuts.

[@fillipe4700]

Chaos Story is better than Dark Aether story

[@AnthonyAvila-ph3cz]

😂😂😂😂

[@AnthonyAvila-ph3cz]

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@TheUltimateNavigator1]

100% agree. Dark Aether is really pointless and they're just doing the same exact thing the Aether story did. Like did we really need a 3 game long epilogue to the original ending?

[@tylercoursey7826]

This was seriously such an entertaining vid, I love this style. Keep up the great work and i hope you get better soon Milo

[@Richtofens_revenge]

Bo4 been good 🐐

[@gamerdeol2694]

Ayy

[@doublea5482]

so let me get this straight, milo understands that cold war is generic feeling 10:18 but cant see it when its happening all over again with black ops 6....

[@intuitionedits2.032]

A few complaints aside, I absolutely adore BO4 zombies.

[@blair..]

the thing abt the chaos story line is they always did stuff as a collective and it felt weird. im reminded of the introduction to the 2.0 characters in origins and the intro to the chaos characters in voyage

[@FTFJohn]

BO4 was the last decent zombies. Also yes time flies the older you get.

[@the_seer_0421]

Hell no. It was literally the game that almost destroyed zombies and then cold war came out the basically fix it. The game was plagued by terrible design choices, from the maps to the core gameplay systems and the story or stories were all over the place and has no clear direction. The only genuinely good thing that came out of the mode was the art direction and how it ended the aether story. I will say that the majority of the chaos maps were noticeably better than the aether maps.

[@FTFJohn]

@@the_seer_0421 I disagree but IW Zombies is my all time favorite and most people hate it. I wish the Willard Wyler story line with Lee Ross would continue!!

[@the_seer_0421]

@@FTFJohn it's better than vanguard, I'll give you that

[@redspy6089]

@@FTFJohnI think people really only hate iw zombies because people did not want another futuristic game. Imo it’s a top 5 zombies game

[@nirvana2197]

Health issues suck, especially chronic ones. Hope you find some relief!

[@matthewgrisham3553]

No it just doesn’t look as bad now cause of how much more garbage zombies got

[@rh3medy]

Never thought you would make this video!! Always great when You upload!

[@NellaOnYT]

Damn sorry to hear about all your pains growing older but I’m right behind ya!

[@dayumdoesyt.222]

I loved bo4 zombies, easter eggs were all possible solo and when cold warcame out it really shined.

[@stingrayslapper1595]

I cannot believe BO3 is nearly a decade old. Obviously the community was peak back then, but beyond that. BO3 was beautiful, SOE is still the best looking map EVER imo. Just crazy man

[@Stemboo]

Origins, mob of the dead and buried are 10 years old. Die rise is almost 11 years old after this December…..how time flies. And I still play all of these maps on a regular basis, mostly mob of the dead.

[@drunkenromeo]

I’ve been back to playing old zombies lately too I think we’re all coming to terms with it being over

[@ChronoTango]

You say Cold War was Facility based, but an interesting point to consider is Nacht was the only non facility map up until TranZit.

[@flat---line]

I was a QA tester for BO3, and all of us were pretty disappointed with zombies. It felt like a huge change to what we loved about the mode. Getting way too complicated story wise when we all just wanted to kite zombies for hours. The Easter egg was massively long and took even us testers a while to get it down.

[@b2daj105]

i love this milo chilling playing some zombies and telling us all about his daily life love you milo you are the best we love you

[@Xacc_]

that sucks man. Im only 21 and ive got tinnitus in both ears from constant other problems with my throat and its hard living life at the same time. no matter how much times you go to a doctor, nothing changes.

[@wazaaup4993]

live commentary while playing an old zombies map would be perfect for more videos.

[@memesouls8653]

Honestly I liked BO4 zombies because it felt way more accessible and replayable than the old zombies. Old zombies just felt overly challenging on certain maps to the point it was hard getting past even round ten. On the other hand, Cold War made zombies way too easy in my opinion. I think BO4 zombies hit that sweet spot where it didn’t feel like you were going to die within the first two rounds but also it was challenging enough that you didn’t get bored and were constantly on the edge of your seat.

[@asoingbobgaming5465]

Nah it’s the other way for me at least. I feel like bo4 is so hectic with all the constant boss zombies and crazy zombie AI. Obviously you have more stuff to deal with them but to me it feels like the game starts being hectic at the early rounds in bo4 as opposed to the older games where it gets gradually crazier.

[@memesouls8653]

@@asoingbobgaming5465 I agree with the hectic part, but I don’t think that necessarily makes it harder per say. The zombies and even the bosses are honestly really easy to deal with in this game plus the bonus HP and the improved movement mechanics just makes rounding and evading zombies so much easier. Grant I will say the hectic part is what makes it stop from becoming to easy by making you have to always be on your toes. But compared to maps like Five and Origins, BO4 is a piece of cake. I will admit though that the Easter eggs are stupidly hard 😭

[@CrackSparrowGaming]

Damn dude, your making me think right now. I have been watching you for over a decade. We are getting old homie. It’s crazy how many ups and downs we have had in this community, hopefully we can get some more ups before it’s to late.

[@Blade12311]

I loved the video format! Also my fav moment from BO4 HAS TO BE Blood Of The Dead! The whole map atmosphere and the EE hunt and the EE cutscene! THAT EE ENDING CUTSCENE WAS SOMETHING TRULY SPECIAL! 😄

[@FPSBurns]

That’s how I feel about world at war. I realized it came out 15 years ago and that means I’ve been playing zombies for over half my life.

[@FPSpsychoYT]

2:53 funny enough I have a similar issue. Not my throat, but my skin. Doctor's still don't know for sure so they're assuming it's "psoriasis", however psoriasis is usually itchy, and the rash I have isn't itchy in the slightest. It's mostly gone now but it's apparently gonna come back for the rest of my life on and off. I have a few minor patches on my arms at the moment, I almost wonder if the whole covid shenanigans caused a bunch more bodily issues to develop out of the blue that threw Doctor's a curveball. Hopefully it recovers in the near future though! I despise sore throats.

[@spn_1784]

Hey fps you are the goat thx for uploading very good videos you are the best zombies player

[@AiRsTrIkExXzZ]

I always liked BO4(even the zombies) and when everyone else disliked it I kinda got sad Also something else that’s mind boggling. Cold War came out 3 years ago this year!

[@Saiku]

I was talking to my grandpa about time going by faster and faster every year. I asked him if it ever hits a point where it sorta evens out and stops feeling like time just keeps speeding up. He said "Nope, it just keeps getting worse". Scares the shit out of me.

[@Fxrrxt2x]

I know BO4 was or still is controversial, but I loved it. As a camo and challenge grinder, and also a solo player, it was perfect for me. My only gripe with it was the apparent budget cuts surrounding the Aether maps like Alpha Omega and Tag Der Toten. But, even those 2 maps are still WAY better than vanguard.

[@PureFred]

im with you. the light faded after bo3 for sure.

[@murco_]

besides the obvious issues with going against jason’s wishes, i dont actually have any issues with chaos being in the dark aerher story. it fits in the new timeline made after bo4 in the early 20th century before everything else in dark aether