Is Case Law Useless?

[@JamesDonald-bl3zp]

That same cop that attacked Carolina pulled a gun out on a man for Jaywalking, that tells me all about this cop !

[@roxycarmichael1678]

I believe it was Manuel Mata. He spoke at a city council meeting about it.

[@yellowtexasrose]

The city council ignored Turner v Driver too. They kicked out auditors with cameras up telling them that they were not media. FW is very corrupt from the top down

[@Ssledge09]

As long as qualified immunity exists cops will do wrong. Even good cops will do wrong because of no accountability

[@johnsmith1953x]

This is 100% true and accurate. Unless you start seeing cops crying going to prison for 10, 20, 30 years, NOTHING will change.

[@glennwall552]

​@@johnsmith1953x nah here in Australia we often have thug cop and no QI.

[@johnsmith1953x]

@@glennwall552 Aren't u lucky!

[@bipolartyranttroller]

@@johnsmith1953xI disagree. The whole reason for this video is to talk about case law…..Case law is what make “Well established law” which is a key component of Qualified Immunity being denied.

[@marcusthomas6998]

That and police unions

[@Charlie-Saringo]

Drug alcohol and steroid test should be mandatory after every injury or death incident.

[@johngalt97]

All government employees should have to take breathalizers before every shift.

[@bipolartyranttroller]

I disagree. I just think that every violation of anyone’s Civil Rights should be a mandatory Federal charge of 18 U.S.C. § 242 Deprivation of Rights under color of law.

[@donnapizzo9599]

i am convinced that if the insurance companies demanded all officers and their supervisors were taught civil rights and they refused to cover any officer that has more than one civil rights violation complaint in there files there would be far fewer criminal cops

[@BewarePeople-od2bd]

🤔🤔🤔

[@marklindsey579]

I say case law is useless until you get to the appeal process. Many judges will ignore caselaw hoping you don't have the funds to appeal.

[@Ssledge09]

Cases are dragged on for months, sometimes even years, so people can't afford to sue

[@throughmylens5127]

25:07 the way he attacks her sure makes it look like it was retaliation for her activism.

[@RayBob-f2y]

Sir in my opinion you are the most deliberate and considered speaker in the civil rights copwatch community today. it is wonderful that it is spoken by one as young as you are. Thank you for your conviction.

[@patrickirwin3662]

Legend

[@ImNotHereToArgueFacts]

Texas Municipal League is for the corporations. The individuals are required to have oaths and bonds that can have claims made against also.

[@davidsmith5523]

If a cop needs to batter into unconscioysness a small unarmed and well known woman. To be able to safely arrest her while other cops stand around not needed. Then he is incompetent at best. Vicious at worst. Technicalities not withstanding, Carolina must have a case against him on some level. Excessive force at the very least. If not? Your society is doomed.

[@Bruce4lmighty]

Too many people think Laws prevent crime when in fact, Laws exist to punish criminals for their crime…

[@georgecraytin9838]

It is to give the govt power. `Why do we need laws to keep the cops from beating or falsely arresting people

[@jelynn4civilliberties]

Case law is always important. We The People just need to continue to voice our dissent and opposition to how our servants are conducting themselves and failing to follow said precedence.

[@Will-ch8he]

Case law doesn’t help at the time, but after the fact if you decide to sue it can help.

[@jayay5943]

Except most people cant afford to

[@dthav]

Lee Harvey Oswald yelled in the Texas theatre “ I’m not resisting”.

[@ImNotHereToArgueFacts]

Independence from taxation Look at all the taxes we're imposed with today. Our forefathers would be ashamed

[@SmoDiego]

Useless as long there is Qualified immunity.

[@TheBattousaiMedia]

@SmoDiego I think you mean useful. Qualified immunity is only granted when there is no established law. Case law is established law, so it will be rendered useful.

[@SmoDiego]

@@TheBattousaiMedia Okay Thanks

[@jpharrod2]

Caroline hired a defensive lawyer to win the case against tyrant and the city qualified immunity. Then CJ will step in for the civil suit.

[@jpharrod2]

And Caroline’s husband hired the lawyer while she was in jail.

[@mitymac]

its useful but you have to be ready to go the distance ✊

[@herbalman6337]

Yeah but in real time reality who has that kind of time or resources to take time out & 👉🤑 a bag to fight for said rights that should be all ready in the books 📚 & should be honored, but now days it seems these narcissistic 🦨 pathetic👮‍♂️ pathological 🤧 racist 🤮 thugs feel 🤷 no 🙉 more👨‍⚖️obligation 👩‍⚖️ to 🤮 honor ⚖️their "Sworn Oath" to serve & protect that aspect of "WE THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS" is over family 👌🏻!!! Amen 🙏!!!

[@sketch6995]

And that takes money. 5 grand right off the bat.

[@ImNotHereToArgueFacts]

Thinking we might need a People of Texas Government Oversight Board. That or a revolution

[@obijuan-]

WHEN we want to see change from the LEADERSHIP in the PD and SO, and that change rolls down hill to the cop/deputy on the street we must change how they keep their dollars. WHEN we change the rules, the law, that takes the settlement or lawsuit payout from the specific department, i.e., the department or sheriff office, we will see change. WHEN they can't pay salaries, overtime, new hires, new cars, bullets and coffee, they will change. Wait, we are not finished. We also will pass laws that hold the “involved peace officers”, be it patrol/deputy, supervisor, commander, or chief/sheriff for their failings. Each found to be responsible for will help personally accountable for the first $50,000 not to be paid by the city/county or city/county insurance. While we wait for federal law or state law to make this happen, we must tackle the local city/county to change it there. Now, they also need a carrot. When a department can go 1 year, 2 years or such without citizen complaints, no lawsuits we reward them. As long as the city/county or their insurance pays the settlement or lawsuit, NOTHING will change.

[@obijuan-]

The cops are trained and told to say stuff that is also not true while on camera - body camera so the DA and police can pile more charges on top of the stuff they are already doing. This also helps when they start striking charges off in exchange with pressuring to take a plea. Cops and public servants don't read or bother to read the law. Academy doesn't teach law, they teach tactics, filling out reports, torture and how to hide a girlfriend. So case law doesn't matter. We see the reaction on many cops faces with someone tells them the name of case law and they roll their eyes. The only two they know, Terry and MvP. otherwise, they dismiss it because it shows they don't know.

[@yellowtexasrose]

I got kicked out of the Fort Worth city council meeting while wearing my beloved Battousai shirt. I'm going back though.

[@tenin982000]

why did you get kicked out?

[@yellowtexasrose]

@@tenin982000 I was kicked out for shouting that Krueger needed to be fired when the council was restricting people to make public comment. Others got kicked out for shouting for his termination too. Some got kicked out for recording. The mayor is a tyrant who hates the 1st amendment and ignores Turner v Driver just as much as her corrupt cops

[@renebernays5774]

this is such an important conversation to have thank you

[@n8iv386]

It sure hasn't detered Law Enforcement from ignoring citizens who film government employees in the course of their duties, and in fact, I believe it has made it more prevalent.

[@Charlie-Saringo]

Tax payers pay tml and attorney to defend the the violator . Nobody pays but the tax payer.

[@419sourced3]

Truly appreciate your hard work and dedication!

[@throughmylens5127]

46:08 Phoenix has threatened the DOJ for investigation into their departments violations.

[@imbalancedstatus8824]

It won't stop a thug from arresting you. But it may make for a big pay day

[@michaelbyrd3880]

Good to see and hear from you doc!

[@michaelgrant4077]

The real problem isn't the lack of case law, which is very helpful for illegal arrest, but an empty pocketbook and lawyers who value the $$$ over extending legal help as needed. No money, no justice in America. Been there, and screwed because I was pennyless at the time. I don't trust the legal system in America now. Our legal system only works if the people we elect, are ethical. honest and morally straight. Where are they??? Bottom-up changes are due for change, as Battousai commented.

[@markbailey2199]

The only place case law can be used is in the court room. But that is only after years of lawyer gymnastics. In the streets it’s the law of the sovereign military and they don’t care about courts. They are in it for what they can do in the moment. And the more punishment they can get away with, all the better. What a better definition of a police state can we have than the state of the nation now.

[@jamesstewart1229]

Thanks for your time and all the informational videos.

[@walterheisenberg9278]

Truner vs Driver was even use by the prosecution in DeCastro Vs. Nevada.

[@Exploitiv]

Case law is mostly useless because it doesn’t bring charges to the officer that breaks the law and constitutional rights. It only holding the department/city liable in a civil court and that only takes money away from the people not the actual department and if it does the department has insurance that caps out or umbrellaed. That means in some states have law in place to protect them from civil liability. This is where they know they can do wrong and break the law with impunity.

[@OldManTimeAudits]

We The People

[@Lemonarmpits]

I agree we are all that can fix it

[@johnturan4467]

It’s great if people are willing to follow through and take it to court, appeal court if necessary.

[@marcusthomas6998]

It should be every lawsuit the same cops involved in,the lawsuit amount should increase or police should get their own insurance.

[@CodyAF333voluntaryist]

Useful to the system against it's self. Useless as it doesn't matter, the gov, it's enforcers and pawns will do their criminal behavior no matter.

[@johngalt97]

Case law can be overcome by legislation. SCOTUS doctrine allowing LEOs to lie almost without consequence, and qualified immunity should be reigned in legislatively. The courts are in place to clarify the intent of law, not to create law.

[@JoshingU]

That is what the constitution is for. We don’t need caselaw to further define and limit our rights. Caselaw is great if you are a cop. Best example is Carolina. They did not adhere to the caselaw, because they know how to use some other nonsense caselaw to get away with it. Ask all those cop watchers that get arrested and charged

[@herbalman6337]

Listen bro you are absolutely 💯 % correct but only if one has the time & 👉💰bag to follow through like yourself, but unfortunately most of us out here do not, now with that said, on the local level the system ⚖️ has flipped out & now wrong is right & right is wrong even though the system knows very well what our "WE THE PEOPLE'S RIGHTS" are👌🏻; Now in my opinion, the only reason why i feel that they are even bothering to even listen or honoring case Law at this time & that is because if they didn't you are correct again, once that got out "NO HONOR EVEN AT THE HIGHEST COURTS", then correct again total unpredictable random lawlessness pandemonium tumult termoil, which is exactly where we are today in this sad 😔 sack nation👌🏻 "Ace"😢!!! Amen 🙏!!!!

[@manipantsuk]

We feel equally sorry for and scared at WTF may happen going forward. Also, apologies but there is rather large element of humour. UK Citizen

[@mule1995]

"Land of the free, because of the brave!" Q: How many COPs does it take to throw someone down the stairs? 😏 A: None! He fell. 😡

[@roxycarmichael1678]

Happy to see you 😊. Enjoy your work.

[@glennwall552]

One of my States (nsw Australia) best case law is Carr vs New Town police. Which in a nut shell says if the maxium penalty is a fine you can't be jail but must be issued a court appeearance ticket. Odfly I met him in a pub at 3 am . Story was he was on his way to his brothers funeral when a cop hasseled him do ends up attest for a fine only offence the cops refused to release him till 4 pm after the funeral and wake. Cop hated him so laught about it. Luck cameras had been onstalled. He then sued won cop was fired after Judge wrote to Commissioner.

[@glennwall552]

That cop had already been fired once before for excessive force but arbitrator forced them to re employ him.

[@wigalert]

Thanks!

[@The-KP]

0. Without caselaw, without restricting lower court judges to higher court precedents, judges would be able to re-decide the logic of settled law with each case. That means wide variance in whether police misbehavior is criminal or not. But even with the system of caselaw in place, this Roberts Supreme Court has been upending it by un-logically re-deciding existing caselaw according to their own whims, based on political motives. Dobbs a recent example. "Qualified immunity" another, where civil rights claims that you and I would be liable for THEY are not, if there hasn't been a prior case making it clear. Which basically sets up a roadblock preventing progress on civil rights vs police. As I'm sure it was intended. To preserve the asymmetry of police power vs we the people. @Battousai

[@USMC6976]

They do that to try and justify their use of excessive force. They think they are the only ones recording, or, not recording.

[@bchap1233]

Depends on the case. Terry v Ohio and Penn v Mimms kinda screwed us. Others have helped such as your own.

[@Charlie-Saringo]

@@bchap1233 TVO needs to be overturned, no crime or infraction = no detention!!!

[@bchap1233]

@@Charlie-Saringo I agree. That case set the precedent for a lot of abuse of power.

[@reflect.]

The question is what is it useful specifically for? Will caselaw prevent a cop from assaulting you? Probably not. Is it possible that it might help you get a pay out after the incident? Sure. It’s a long shot, but possible.

[@throughmylens5127]

40:27 the compassion from the female officers for an attack on another female was none existant. They had the responsibility to stop the crime against her

[@yellowtexasrose]

Instead they turned her camera off

[@MikeEvans-d2y]

It’s like officer safety . Another load of bullsh#t 😊

[@yellowtexasrose]

I think the auditing community needs to take advantage of Artificial Intelligence to write And file lawsuits pro se when they have no resources for attorneys. It could also be helpful because there are a lack of CJs out there to take the cases. There are already sites on line

[@walterheisenberg9278]

I think people are getting confused what Turner Vs Driver case law establishes, it only establishes that you have the right to film police without detention or arrest. I think lays a good foundation for cop watchers, but it does not fix the bigger problem of police over-reach.

[@Lemonarmpits]

I back Trump but two months ago he said he wanted to give the police complete immunity because they are getting sued for doing their jobs.. good thing I'm not going to vote this year

[@throughmylens5127]

36:48 25ft law lol cops will continuously advance toward the journalists to force them from the area.

[@throughmylens5127]

They will really hate the Laser Measuring devices

[@imbalancedstatus8824]

Is it me or the Battousai living large... Unless my lying eyes are deceiving me.. 😂

[@glennwall552]

Phillip yout several case are often mentioned on police cases must make you proud.

[@GohanVsLuffy]

This broadcast was very smooth

[@fatmike131]

@ battousai, why or how could he claim qualified immunity? Qualified immunity does not protect against criminal prosecution. I know you know this I’m just putting out there for others to understand. Qualified immunity is a judicial doctrine that shields public officials from civil liability (i.e., money damages), unless their actions violated “clearly established law.” Mullenix v. Luna, 577 U.S. 7, 11 (2015). It has nothing to do with criminal liability and offers no protection for police officers facing criminal prosecution. I don’t see how it could even be brought up. Is it a crime for a person to pick up another person and slam them face first on the concrete. It’s plain and simple. Yes that’s a crime. If courts asked what was the reason to pick up that person and slam them on the concrete face first? (1) Because she didn’t follow a lawful order (2) Because she was resisting me attempting to place her under arrest. (3) Because she was interfering, walked into the crime scene and I demanded her to go across the street and she didn’t listen. (4) Claim officer safety. I was just so scared of this women I had to do something. J/j. But there are probably a lot more made up situations this pig could try and argue. (1) can you slam a person on the concrete face first for not following an order in this situation? (2) What did she say and what did she do for you to claim she was resisting. (Watch body camera) (3) How did she interfere? Was there a crime scene? And if so was it a secured crime scene. Demanding her to go across the street , was it a lawful order? (4) officer safety, courts… why you such a pussy? Bottom line is slamming a person on the concrete face first a crime. I would argue yes. That’s not what qualified immunity is for. So basically I’m asking on what basis do you think he would have to ask for qualified immunity?

[@TheBattousaiMedia]

Everything I'm referring to is for the civil lawsuit. Not the criminal case.

[@rebelstudio2720]

Yes, it is useless. You have to learn their US CODES to use against them to win. CFR Codes too.

[@throughmylens5127]

I need to finish reading Distorted Pillars see how bad things use to be.

[@georgecraytin9838]

It is not useless if the judge agree with it other wise you might as well talk to the wall

[@Lemonarmpits]

Batman are you getting gray hair ? Keep up the good work my brother..

[@christinekelly8766]

Hey Batman you're looking good.☺️

[@Overonator]

Don't vote for authoritarians at best or fascists at worse.

[@howardclegg6497]

Case law is only as good as what the judge says or does not say about it.

[@ramjam720]

To me case law is a double edged sword. You have cops wrongly citing "Pa vs Mimms" to force people out of their car without any reason. But IF you can cite case law on point to a cop in the middle of an interaction, especially when it is being recorded, it will absolutely strip away their qualified immunity.

[@nicksavage4763]

NO IT IS NOT‼️ But Should be Left to Skilled Lawyers in the Courtroom AND NEVER LITIGATED ON THE STREETS OR THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION on SOCIAL MEDIA CONDUCT YOURSELF AS PROFESSIONAL AS the Public Expects of Police and officials and later, in court case law will support your defense. COPS WHO VIOLATE RIGHTS DONT CARE about CASE LAW, Rights and have CONTEMPT FOR THE CONSTITUTION. STOP RESISTING IS TO CRIMINALIZE CITIZENS AND JUSTIFY A COPS UNLAWFUL BEHAVIOR. LIKE DEMOCRATS ACCUSING EVERYONE ELSE OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING. FROM THE RULES FOR RADICALS PLAYBOOK--> ACCUSE YOUR OPPONENT OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND KEEP REPEATING IT.

[@christinekelly8766]

You got to start somewhere.

[@ImNotHereToArgueFacts]

IDK, Turner v Driver was what...10 years ago? How useful does it appear in Fort Worth today? IMO, it hasn't improved anything.

[@throughmylens5127]

35:24 national problem more like a mental illness issue within the profession

[@walterheisenberg9278]

The problem is that most obstruction laws are vague, and the mantra of officer safety gives the police unlimited power to define what is obstruction in their mind. The old police "you have the right to film but where I say you can film". This is the problem that really needs to be addressed our rights vs. Officer Safety. Are we a pseudo Police State or are we a country of people with rights. That is the problem we need to address or we are just going to see more Carolina Forth Worth arrest but someone my get killed this time around.

[@cstover8454]

So why can't some useful public employees get a rico action against the right here gang they are coast to coast federal local state international and they run through the chain of command that's a whole lot of conspirators I would think it should be easy to link them togather

[@paraxray]

Walking through this one bro

[@patrickfaul834]

Very useful

[@greebuh]

Case Law is not law.

[@JamesDonald-bl3zp]

That comment,,,Turner v Driver, i bet came from Driver himself, id bet money on it, hes a sore loser, you reckon ?

[@rockyhighwayroad7365]

RESPECT!

[@Solo-_-..]

✊🏿👍🏿

[@JamesDonald-bl3zp]

Explain caselaw

[@chrisrus1965]

Why would you upload this without editing out the first part?

[@TheBattousaiMedia]

It was a livestream...

[@bryancollier704]

I missed it 😅

[@jeffreyhowll1392]

Hi Al

[@Bob9961]

You really should prepare an outline for your speeches. It took you ten minutes to get to the subject of the video. On the title, case law is absolutely useless. You have to rely on courts to get any benefit from it, often after a protracted appeals process. That takes years. Justice delayed is justice denied. I find that useless.

[@Ssledge09]

Caselaw is useless

[@christinekelly8766]

0

[@s1nnergy]

dude great mind but please practice articulation

[@s1nnergy]

had to watch on 2x speed

[@Transparency-for-all]

Kind of like this video. Useless.

[@walterheisenberg9278]

Kruger should be charged but we know that he will claim she fell...

[@NotOkayPolicing]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJbHq3Wrid5jq68si=VC0_mCm_XVaqVBaE The link provided is a video showcasing the disdain and contempt that this local small town government has for the constitution, American citizens, and their rights. These events occurred 02/28/2023... they are still trying to pursue charges against me criminally. I intend on filing my 2nd ever lawsuit against those involved in my arrest 😤.

[@walterheisenberg9278]

Case Law is important 1.

[@walterheisenberg9278]

Raise Property Taxes again

[@tonycurtis6898]

Miss that face man hope to see More of it

[@andreaspinosi3635]

Scusate se insisto ma in qualsiasi paese civile questo non succede quasi mai,se succede tutti i notiziari nazionali ne parlerebbero, in Italia il caso Cucchi un ragazzo ucciso dalla polizia, se ne è parlato x anni fino a che i responsabili sono stati condannati. Ora sono in galera, come dice la legge.

[@Charlie-Saringo]

Tax payers pay tml and attorney to defend the the violator . Nobody pays but the tax payer.

[@TheBattousaiMedia]

Of course TML will defend their client. At the end of the day taxpayers will foot the bill, that is why it's important to get involved in these matter at the local level. If there is no change vote them out.

[@patrickfaul834]

Very useful