Is Charizard the BEST Starter in Pokemon Red/Blue?

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Jrose11

Jrose11

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@thestalost8486
@thestalost8486 2 жыл бұрын
After you're done with Blastoise, too, I think the perfect Pokemon to do next would be Raichu. As it is somewhat an evolution of a starter.
@Xpwnxage
@Xpwnxage 2 жыл бұрын
He did Pikachu 4th right? Then he probably is doing Raichu next!
@Bodhinaut
@Bodhinaut 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea friend!
@joshuasharrock466
@joshuasharrock466 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, isn't this the way we all did it back in the day? I started with Raichu
@elefantepolski7456
@elefantepolski7456 2 жыл бұрын
I believe all of these are pre-recorded
@derrickscott1630
@derrickscott1630 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so... Raichu is better!
@michaelangelopicon5691
@michaelangelopicon5691 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else watch these and NEVER get tired of Jrose11 explaining the gen 1 game mechanics? I think what sets this channel apart is the commentary and good ability to tell a story.....
@dublex22
@dublex22 2 жыл бұрын
It’s the most niche content I watch and I love it everytime lol glad I’m not alone
@tmgthemariogamer3676
@tmgthemariogamer3676 2 жыл бұрын
BADGE BOOST GLITCH
@amtoyumtimmy
@amtoyumtimmy 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking this. It's so calming...
@Jacob42086
@Jacob42086 2 жыл бұрын
@@tmgthemariogamer3676 rival fival! 😂
@DanielRyanScott
@DanielRyanScott 2 жыл бұрын
Jrose11: "What is the badge boost glitch? Well I have explained it in depth in my other videos, so I wont do that here. But a quick summary is... " (Jrose11 then explains the badge boost glitch in extreme detail for 5 minutes straight) Me: "Ahh yes, classic Jrose" *Sips coffee*
@ChrisMcGiggity
@ChrisMcGiggity 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really glad you left in the "okay that part out" . I love when youtubers do these 30 day challenges and we get to gradually see them going insane. I thought for sure with the ammount of times you've played through these games it would have taken a lot longer than 4 days but still pretty funny to see. Praying for your sanity man. Love all the work you put in these videos are absolutely great! PS really hope to hear a count impression at some point during these 30 days! (Or multiple times) I know you think the joke got old but I loved hearing it every video
@willysmith2990
@willysmith2990 2 жыл бұрын
One haha, two haha, three haha, four haha… just amazing!
@daysgobye
@daysgobye 2 жыл бұрын
Time stamp?
@kjartanvalur3960
@kjartanvalur3960 2 жыл бұрын
@@daysgobye 13:15 and 13:25
@TheGerkuman
@TheGerkuman 2 жыл бұрын
I love that it's the editor that decided to keep it in, and then clearly JRose enjoyed how it was edited and gave it the thumbs up.
@dublex22
@dublex22 2 жыл бұрын
One ha ha ha
@theconceptofde4th298
@theconceptofde4th298 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on first trying your arch-nemesis, that ledge on route 22. You inspire us all.
@mrgonzalez8838
@mrgonzalez8838 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like most of Charizard's popularity is because 1) he was one of the only Pokemon that Ash has in the anime that fully evolved, and was very strong ( I wish Bulbasaur and Squirtle evolved) , 2) He reminded people of Dragons, 3) lots of people did really like having it as a starter despite any comparison to the other two
@N12015
@N12015 2 жыл бұрын
I would say it is kinda the weakest in its original gen, then the strongest with the stat split, then the weakest again due to rocks, then being carried by megas being overtuned. Venusaur has been consistently better than Blastoise, as simple as that.
@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825
@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought about the fact that charizard was the only final evolution in ash's team. Thats a good point that may hold some weight in Charizard's popularity compared to the other Gen 1 starters. But still I think that mainly (and my favorite one is Venusaur) a dragon is "cooler" overall than a turtle and a weird ¿frog?
@LiquidDestruction
@LiquidDestruction 2 жыл бұрын
Charmander is playing gen 1 in hard mode, we just like the challenge.
@Desh2012
@Desh2012 2 жыл бұрын
Idk playing through gen1 with Charizard didn’t really feel all that hard tbh. Maybe because most didn’t force themselves to use only one Pokémon but using Charizard really teaches you about using the other Pokémon more because the other two are very easy to use vs Brock.
@luizbezerra4373
@luizbezerra4373 2 жыл бұрын
It's not hard to figure out: between a flower frog, a turtle with cannons, and a freaking dragon, the dragon is much more appealing to kids
@firedrake110
@firedrake110 2 жыл бұрын
Gyarados is so spooky in this run. Sure, it has a 20% chance to miss *THE* *PUMP* but the odds are the same it just crits and kills you outright lol
@ext93
@ext93 2 жыл бұрын
The pump 💀
@MIrfanPerdana
@MIrfanPerdana 2 жыл бұрын
I see Gyarados can't help itself from failing NNN.
@phoebe5114
@phoebe5114 2 жыл бұрын
I am now and forever referring to Hydro Pump as *THE PUMP*
@Pyxis10
@Pyxis10 2 жыл бұрын
My Giant Snake used The Pump.
@crims0ngrin
@crims0ngrin Жыл бұрын
THE PUMP
@travisromero9528
@travisromero9528 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the month of Jrose. I can watch all of his previous gen stuff, but I still have the new generation content I get to watch after this. I wish every month was Jrose month…
@xard4spl
@xard4spl 2 жыл бұрын
One of the very few content creators that I actually watch back to back when a new video is posted. And then usually go and watch a couple of the old ones for good measure 😁 Thank you Jrose11!
@matthewnoland2008
@matthewnoland2008 2 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be one hell of a month man! Keep up the awesome work Jrose!
@AndrooTheNerd
@AndrooTheNerd 2 жыл бұрын
Charizard really started to get better in Gen VI with its Mega Evolutions but I’m very curious to see how he does here. There’s not a lot of Rock moves in the game to handle him either.
@kaptainKrill
@kaptainKrill 2 жыл бұрын
No, but there is both Aurora Beam from Lorelei and Hydro Pump from Lance. Those tend to be roadblocks for Pokémon weak to ice and water, and Charizard is both.
@KaoruMzk
@KaoruMzk 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, the mega that saw competitive play was Y because of drought, even though most people were overhyping the X mega for being a dragon... on the same generation that introduced fairies lol
@AndrooTheNerd
@AndrooTheNerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaoruMzk I believe the Fire/Dragon at least offsets since Fairy isn’t very effective against Fire IIRC. It has that going for it but yes Y was definitely better IMO.
@AndrooTheNerd
@AndrooTheNerd 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaptainKrill Right I can see Lance being a roadblock for sure. At least with Lorelei Fire is neutral against most of her team.
@billy_naing
@billy_naing 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndrooTheNerd In Gen 1, Fire does not resist Ice.
@firedrake110
@firedrake110 2 жыл бұрын
Charizard, talking mad shit about Venusaur: "I'm so fast, I can do whatever I want. Watch me first-try the elite four and rank S with Mewtwo" Dewgong, the first pokémon in the Elite Four: "I'm about to end this man's whole career"
@Charizard-kz9cg
@Charizard-kz9cg 5 ай бұрын
😑
@GrudgeyCable
@GrudgeyCable 5 ай бұрын
I hate that icy women specifically because she’s stopped so many of my runs in red and fire red 😂 I love my charizard and my dragons so water and ice are always a pain lol.
@chucktaylor2172
@chucktaylor2172 2 жыл бұрын
The month of Jrose is upon us and I'm very happy about this. Merry Christmas to all of us huh? Thank you Jrose for the videos you give us. I love them. This channel and Mr Ballen and Swagkage are my favorite channels and it's not even close
@adrthegreatball4596
@adrthegreatball4596 2 жыл бұрын
I got off early from work today and have a week off right as you started the 30 days of uploading. The stars aligned perfectly.
@gasparguruoftime5475
@gasparguruoftime5475 2 жыл бұрын
The Venusaur/Charizard vids have been a blast to me for a personal reason. I've always loved Charizard the most, and as a kid I'd only train my starter like most people did. I could *never* beat the Elite Four with him solo though, even though he was in the low 70s; I'd get as far as Dragonite if I was lucky. I remember getting frustrated and restarting to choose Bulbasaur. Solo Venusaur is what finally allowed me to beat the game (complete with Body Slam Spam™). Watching this video and seeing why is so fascinating, right down to the Dragonair/Dragonite Agility spam against Venusaur being what most likely pushed me over the hump to finally winning way back then. Good times. So anyway, even though Charizard is still my favorite, I can somewhat verify Venusaur as the better solo of the two.
@powerplay9422
@powerplay9422 2 жыл бұрын
Jrose: Please edit this out AJ: I shall not!
@chicarbiomed
@chicarbiomed 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect video to listen before I fall asleep to nap while I’m sick. Good nostalgia right into dream land
@moonrabbit99
@moonrabbit99 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you doing the same with Venusaur, Charizard, and Blastoise but in gen 3! Would definitely be interesting to see the comparison with their more diverse move pools. Anyway, keep up the great work! 😁
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming 2 жыл бұрын
From what I can guess, he likes RBY’s unique mechanics more, and the Gen 3 Kanto games also have that little bit with the Sevii Islands. I’d like to see this too, but I’m not sure it would be something he’d be interested in.
@Neceroe
@Neceroe 2 жыл бұрын
@@bdt2002gaming though he does prefer rby he has done frlg in the past more than once so entirely possible
@lizard1255
@lizard1255 2 жыл бұрын
@@bdt2002gaming you can skip the Sevii side plot can't you?
@bdt2002gaming
@bdt2002gaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@lizard1255 To be honest, I can’t remember
@OtakuJuanma2
@OtakuJuanma2 2 жыл бұрын
The whole schpeal "no just kidding, edit that out" was hilarious. Thank you editor for NOT editing that out.
@jkip974
@jkip974 2 жыл бұрын
Did I really just notice that your former intro music has it's own remix now in the background at the start of the video? It sounds great and I feel stupid I didn't hear that earlier! Thanks for entertaining us JRose!
@Beller94
@Beller94 2 жыл бұрын
We needed jrose month. Love having videos from you this often!!!!
@SodonaBalalaica
@SodonaBalalaica 2 жыл бұрын
Watching JRose slowly descending into madness is the best way to unwind after a long day 😁 Thanks for another great run mate best month ever ✌️
@conza1989
@conza1989 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the month of Jrose, plenty of content I can't even keep up
@Urahara451
@Urahara451 Жыл бұрын
18:09 one of these days I’m sure he’ll realize that if he wants to set up against dewgong than he should attack it once before. It is programmed to always use rest turn 2.
@daltonking6956
@daltonking6956 Жыл бұрын
Ah, the most nostalgic run for me, basically how my boyhood runs would go, with a Pikachu and what ever else I felt like filling my team with be. It didn't matter what the rest of my team was I had Charizard and he was going to be doing all the work
@halfjaw3367
@halfjaw3367 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm, as well for my favorite poke. Your content is amazing and loving the month of Jrose, can’t wait to see Blastoise if he arrives on turkey day! Enjoy the holidays everyone
@Igorcastrochucre
@Igorcastrochucre 2 жыл бұрын
The sad part is, Jrose just did Moltres, arguably the best Fire-types, the Charmander line, the only one with some coverage, and Ponyta, the strongest pre-evo, so every Fire run after this one is gonna be miserable.
@GymLeaderMatt1987
@GymLeaderMatt1987 2 жыл бұрын
Vulpix is actually deceptive. It was in my top 5 pre-evolved mons for a while.
@primobrickhouse
@primobrickhouse 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yes!! Long live Jrose and his pokemon challenges!!!!! Day 4
@michaelt4663
@michaelt4663 2 жыл бұрын
Loving the months of videos so far. My wife was in the room and asked if a no money spent run was ever done. Keep up the great work
@davidbenjamin8265
@davidbenjamin8265 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was a kid I remember bringing my game boy with me when my Dad took me to work with him. It was a school arranged take your kid to work day. He worked in downtown Cleveland and had to go to the courthouse a lot. My Charmeleon evolved into Charizard when I was with him in document storage.
@trev_jackson
@trev_jackson Жыл бұрын
I watch these while i'm working during the day. i work long hours and they help pass the time. thank you for cozy commentary, JRose! been a fan since the Magikarp solo run!
@Alice..M
@Alice..M 2 жыл бұрын
Just finished the venusaur video before bed last night and now I can watch this while eating dinner! Thanks jrose!
@joshuasharrock466
@joshuasharrock466 2 жыл бұрын
I get it.. Charizard is hot but.. Blastoise is going to be a blast
@21stcenturyrambo16
@21stcenturyrambo16 2 жыл бұрын
I think your doctor can give you a cream for that.
@joshuasharrock466
@joshuasharrock466 2 жыл бұрын
@@21stcenturyrambo16 yeah I used the voice type and noticed a problem
@MazterP28
@MazterP28 2 жыл бұрын
And Venusaur is gonna leaf the battle
@joshuasharrock466
@joshuasharrock466 2 жыл бұрын
@@MazterP28 I'm sure we're gonna make Jrose proud with the corn in this thread
@chardellgill
@chardellgill 2 жыл бұрын
Loving these every day uploads!!! Keep em coming!!!
@balthazare18
@balthazare18 2 жыл бұрын
Noticed the upload rates gone up, hope you don't get burnt out but so long as you don't it's a win for us
@weakestlink20
@weakestlink20 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love Charizard, there’s no denying that it flat out sucks in gen 1. The Fire type being so much worse against Ice types really hurts, you essentially have no Flying STAB, and Charizard has very lacking hitting power in gen 1. The only things it really has going for it are badge boosting with Swords Dance, access to Earthquake, and good speed. Just save the Charizard usage for FRLG, it’s far better there.
@wswordsmen
@wswordsmen 2 жыл бұрын
As a Venusaur shill, I approve that it totally outclassed Charizard in this challenge.
@jaynelson7564
@jaynelson7564 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out for those that have been missing the theme song intro, he actually played it in the background for like the first minute
@holdenwoofter5896
@holdenwoofter5896 2 жыл бұрын
Having a video to watch while I eat my lunch at work everyday is a good send! Loving the consistent content
@davidshepard-alenko4232
@davidshepard-alenko4232 2 жыл бұрын
This fiery boy is my childhood. So much love for the mon. Charizard was just the coolest thing in the world to me as a 7-year-old. A pleasure to watch, as always Jrose. Thanks for the awesome content!
@NegattiveCreep
@NegattiveCreep Жыл бұрын
Charizard is a very decent starter comparing with other gens imo, but can't compete with Venusaur or even Blastoise, they are just superior. In Char's defense, he/she has the best design and a really OP move pool overall.
@sammy7335
@sammy7335 2 жыл бұрын
God I love, LOVE it when you use an orange pokemon palette. It just looks so damned classy
@Merricktherox
@Merricktherox 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, I was just catching up to your most recent uploads and already blessed with another one!
@DiabloTommaso
@DiabloTommaso 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about bodyslam the move was not traslate in italian until gen 3. I have no idea why
@perkypenguin1663
@perkypenguin1663 2 жыл бұрын
Fire types in Gen 1: oh boy! The game has been quite smooth! Surely I’ll destroy the last of the game! Lance: allow me to introduce myself
@Growhio330
@Growhio330 2 жыл бұрын
i know this isnt sustainable, but i love the every day videos! thank you!
@bobjones4469
@bobjones4469 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing this as a kid, I picked Charmander and it was the only Pokemon I used. I pretty much one shotted every Pokemon in the game, and this is a small part of the reasons I grew out of Pokemon so fast, they are such simple and easy games. I also didn't care about collecting Pokemon. I suppose these two reasons why I grew out of Pokemon are the very same ones why Pokemon is such a behemoth of a franchise, casual gamers like the simplicity, the easiness, and the collecting.
@Bodhinaut
@Bodhinaut 2 жыл бұрын
TWO IN ONE DAY MY BRO?!? I LOVE YOU MAN!!! 😂
@TrueN8-bit
@TrueN8-bit 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's about what I expected. A very solid effort throughout the game, but just has so much difficulty with that wall at the end. Charizard is great. Maybe if Gen 1 was set up a bit differently it would be number 1 among starters. But as is, Gyarados creates either a luck barrier or a power barrier, it's a pick the best of bad options situation. So as is, Venusaur is better than Charizard. But will Blastoise prove to reign supreme? I personally don't think so, since in battle items are not allowed in this challenge (which makes a huge difference), but I look forward to finding out. Fun Video.
@grifftown
@grifftown 2 жыл бұрын
Charizard finally here! Iconic pokemon, but with the Gen 1 wackiness I'm looking forward to seeing how this goes. 🔥 Should be interesting
@Leartes20
@Leartes20 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Charizard my fav Pokémon ever - a gift that keeps giving thanks jrose!
@poliant9683
@poliant9683 2 жыл бұрын
the misty sprite looks actually perfect in this color palette lol
@Lukavitahdu1
@Lukavitahdu1 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't do so well for one I have loved so long... hopefully my little Sandshrew makes me proud when it's his turn
@kalkuttadrop6371
@kalkuttadrop6371 2 жыл бұрын
Someguy calculated that, with ALL trainers taken into account(not just Gyms), Blaistoise is the best option type wise. It also has a decent move pool and avoids Venesaurs biggest drawback of psychic weakness and Charizard's biggest drawback of earlygame struggle. I expect it to do decently well, but only get a couple spots above Venesaur, probably around Snorlax
@ClaraFinn
@ClaraFinn 2 жыл бұрын
Blastoise's only badge boost move is Withdraw while Venusaur got both Growth and Swords Dance, and it's slower and has lower Special than Venusaur. I can't see it beating Venusaur for this challenge specifically, Venusaur wasn't really held back by its Psychic weakness that much because Psychics all have terrible defence. Venusaur also benefited from the good AI problem with trainers like Lance
@lenlimbo
@lenlimbo 2 жыл бұрын
Agatha's lottery may put a dent on Blastoise 's performance. It doesn't have the status moves of Venusaur, nor the speed of Charizard
@sheer_1
@sheer_1 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with your analysis is that these challenges entail a minimal amount of battles, minimizing the importance of being effective against random trainers and maximizing the importance of effectiveness against gyms and the E4. Blastoise is almost certainly going to be below Venusaur.
@ClaraFinn
@ClaraFinn 2 жыл бұрын
@@sheer_1 I can’t see how the final evolutions are going to differ much from the first stages, they share many of the same strengths and weaknesses, and Squirtle was significantly worse than Bulbasaur and quite a bit behind Charmander too. Which shocked me at the time honestly, but with my increased knowledge of how this generation and Jrose’s challenges work since the start of this series, it does make sense
@kalkuttadrop6371
@kalkuttadrop6371 2 жыл бұрын
@@ClaraFinn Nope
@Ciran87
@Ciran87 2 жыл бұрын
I find it interesting that the game mechanics included seem to matter the way they were intended to when you do a run with a single pokemon rather than a full team
@youtube-kit9450
@youtube-kit9450 Жыл бұрын
The game in general is way more balanced for one to max. 2-3 pokémon than a full team. The exp is way too little to have your team be close to the elite four if you try to raise 6 pokés evenly, you have way less stat EXP to run around aswell, and the gargantuan amount of pokémon that have a useless movepool that need TMs to kit themselves out even decently vs. how there barely are any good TMs just puts you at a huge disadvantage with 6 pokémon, with basically no advantage given to you for raising 6 pokés, since again, so many pokés don't even get STAB moves, or only hilariously weak ones.
@nightmare348
@nightmare348 2 жыл бұрын
Charizard definitely didn't do as well as Venusaur, but he still did great. Lance in particular was such a choke point.
@snakeywakey3893
@snakeywakey3893 2 жыл бұрын
If it had its 109 Special (attack) of later gens, I bet it would have been really good.
@garylloyd9949
@garylloyd9949 2 жыл бұрын
After gen 1 is done. I'd love to see how this running tier list would compare to on for fire red and leaf green.
@LINKRETROGAMING
@LINKRETROGAMING Жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing, it truly shows and compares what is the best Pokemon for the adventure!!! I love Charizard and want to give a try to Speedrun with him, any% no in battle items right? here you have a new subscriber, also recently new content creator of retro games! KEEP GOING!😁
@berenerchamion4998
@berenerchamion4998 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see Venu above Charizard! ❤
@boomerleo89
@boomerleo89 2 жыл бұрын
Just want to say thank you to JRose for putting in the time and effort for these videos and to have one each day for a month.
@Learnjapanesefromsomeguy
@Learnjapanesefromsomeguy 2 жыл бұрын
After having done so many of these videos, I would definitely consider you a Pokémon expert. I think it would be fun to give us (the viewers) a guess/prediction of the time you think each Pokémon will end up with before you start the run. I imagine that you could guess relatively accurately, but it would be fun to see how close your prediction and the actual result would be.
@Awesomnialistic
@Awesomnialistic 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos and love even more that they’re daily now!! You’re spoiling us (don’t stop haha)
@Pauljepper70
@Pauljepper70 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Jrose doesn't do classical Intros since he knows we all come back and know what's going on ^^
@The13thKnight
@The13thKnight 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered doing a Light Orb Pikachu run just for curiousity’s sake? A real glass cannon, but could be fun for an easier challenge
@ivoackermann15
@ivoackermann15 2 жыл бұрын
at this point explaining why critical hits do less damage than boosted normal hits is in the "explaining badge boost glitch" category. we know.
@Ryan-xo9tf
@Ryan-xo9tf 2 жыл бұрын
Jrose is definitely in my top 5 favorite KZbinrs. Cheers mate
@olenweaver298
@olenweaver298 2 жыл бұрын
If you notice not a single pokemon weak to hydro pump is in the A tier maybe that's something you should consider since that's what slows most their progress. You probably could of won off just a missed hydro and a second swordsdance against a Dragonair.
@DemonRaticate
@DemonRaticate 2 жыл бұрын
Well… I think the idea is that unlike Brock where you literally get screwed because you have no options, the E4 is where you should have a majority of the options available to you. As such, there will be no handicaps for the points you struggle there. If Agatha can bump someone down, Gyarados can and should.
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay 2 жыл бұрын
Being slowed down by counters is how Pokemon is supposed to work. Zapdos would beat Mewtwo if there were no pesky Rock/Ground types but there are and that's why it's scored like it is.
@olenweaver298
@olenweaver298 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be real electric types don't have anything slowing them down besides maybe Brock in the beginning and that just depends on the starting moves they have. I'm just saying the fact that fire clearly has a harder time against the elite four just bc there are actual good water moves being used while electric has it easy bc Bruno is a joke and rhydon never stops anyone. Obviously Pokemon is about types countering others but when a run is measured by level and time but one Pokemon stopping the run for over a hours time proves how some types just have a clear advantage in this gen while others struggle.
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay 2 жыл бұрын
@@olenweaver298 looks like someone didn't watch the zapdos video. Bruno was the only e4 member that even posed a real threat. His onix were the perfect counters to it even when locked into rage. It got so bad that jrose had to mimic ice punch off hitmonchan just to Win and that wasn't even a consistent strategy cuz hitmonchan was the second one sent out. Also rhydon and golem are use primarily in competive for their ability to wall electrics.
@kaptainKrill
@kaptainKrill 2 жыл бұрын
@@DisplayThisOkay hard to believe the zapdos video is over 2 years old. Lots of folks here probably started watching long after and haven’t gone back. Then again, as someone who subbed right after the charmander run, I’m shocked we’re coming up on 3 years for this madness. Where has the time gone?
@roamingnyiad
@roamingnyiad 2 жыл бұрын
Finished and Charizard did surprisingly alright though apparently still had some difficulty in choice parts. Here I thought Gen 1 would've just mis-treated the 'Zard with BOTH Brock and Misty back to back, but only Misty actually mattered out of the early game trainers. Anyway, cool to see these again and I see Blastoise either doing SUPER-amazingly OR INEXPLICABLY poorly, based on how these solo runs go. I would THINK coverage for Blastoise SHOULD be good, but...yeah! Hope to see this trilogy of fully evolved starters reach its fitting conclusion soon!
@N12015
@N12015 2 жыл бұрын
I think it will be in the middle. He now should know that using withdraw to boost should be a good strategy... I hope he fixes the silly mistake of not using withdraw to badge boost.
@dimensiongamer534
@dimensiongamer534 2 жыл бұрын
The month of Jrose has been a real blast so far, cheers!
@ahadmrauf
@ahadmrauf 2 жыл бұрын
I used to love Charizard solo runs in Gen 3 (or at least the Charmander evolution line, barring cheat codes), metal claw was a game changer against Brock
@DemonRaticate
@DemonRaticate 2 жыл бұрын
Heck in future gens it gets motha fricking Dragon Rage at low levels. Yeah… they gave him a lot over the gens.
@ahmadbassam2898
@ahmadbassam2898 2 жыл бұрын
It's not, ember deals almost the same damage. In og gen 1 onix has no rock moves So fire red made that battle harder for it
@PieceOfGarbageYT
@PieceOfGarbageYT 2 жыл бұрын
So this is just an idea but I think after you’ve completed the first form evolutions and final forms you could maybe try and solo with the middle evolutions like Kadabra and make a Jrose11 mini series of sorts given that there’s only 13 of them excluding metapod and kakuna.
@Dime-bz6hc
@Dime-bz6hc 2 жыл бұрын
He is going to do all 151 original so he’ll get to the middle evolution’s eventually
@PeCzech
@PeCzech 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dime-bz6hc I don't think he will be able to finish these runs with all 151, as there are some Pokemons that simply cannot do it, but I hope we'll see a videos with them anyway, just to see how far they can go.
@SquallLionhart409
@SquallLionhart409 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeCzech There's precedent for Jrose trying to beat Red/Blue with a Magikarp and finding it was impossible, so we'll probably see how far each can get before it becomes fully impossible or realistically impossible.
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay 2 жыл бұрын
@@SquallLionhart409 Pointless for Caterpie, Metapod, and Kakuna beacuse they all get stopped at the same point as Magikarp. If he was going to do a meme impossble run Weedle is the only answer since at least Agatha is at the end of the game.
@HaydnG266
@HaydnG266 2 жыл бұрын
@@DisplayThisOkay Weedle would only be possible with use of X items in matches, there is simply no way it could get through E4 even at level 100 without.
@ChiNOo2211
@ChiNOo2211 2 жыл бұрын
Jrose is the best bar none!!! Keep it up man the month of jrose is upon us gather and give thanks
@xgalex6191
@xgalex6191 2 жыл бұрын
Man I'm so hyped to see these videos again!
@suckieduckie
@suckieduckie 2 жыл бұрын
Don't wanna be that guy, but if you need three turns against the Gyarados anyway, why not two swordsdance instead of two bodyslams?
@imdeonerik
@imdeonerik 2 жыл бұрын
This has been awesome to watch these, thanks for the month
@sparkywayne6766
@sparkywayne6766 2 жыл бұрын
Ahoi JRose I´ve got a pretty dry month with work und studying before me. I genuinely look forward to your videos after work. They are perfect for calming down and appreciate something I absolutly love. Thank your for your hard work and dedication.
@daisythegoddes3483
@daisythegoddes3483 Жыл бұрын
Nobody is talking about how beautiful this sunset-like, charizard-colored Kanto really is
@beezleboo6506
@beezleboo6506 2 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you give Charizard rock slide in place of flamethrower? Good for all those pesky flying types like Gyarados and Aerodactyl. Think the elite 4 would have been a lot easier.
@semihkarabas6185
@semihkarabas6185 2 жыл бұрын
Love this keep going Jrose!
@THEREDHOTWRECK
@THEREDHOTWRECK 2 жыл бұрын
A golden age of JRose is upon us Still waiting for legendary runs in G/S/C
@hermesonaires7047
@hermesonaires7047 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't undertood why charizard criting often is bad... Like... What?
@Necrofitz
@Necrofitz 7 ай бұрын
Gen 1 crits are stupid. They ignore your stat buffs, which means say you cap your attack with 3x Swords Dance, further enhanced with badge boost glitch shenanigans, the crit will only do damage based off your base attack stat.
@hermesonaires7047
@hermesonaires7047 7 ай бұрын
@@Necrofitz Your point being? How a nearly 100% crit chance is "often bad"?
@lohnesj95
@lohnesj95 2 жыл бұрын
Jrose really needs to hit 300k with all of this fantastic content he's been putting out.
@masterdex9508
@masterdex9508 2 жыл бұрын
Nice run, wasn't expecting Charizard to do so well!
@patrickfrei9322
@patrickfrei9322 2 жыл бұрын
Came home from an evening full of beer... was cool. But i came home to this, this is amazing! 🧡🖤
@CalamityCallie
@CalamityCallie 2 жыл бұрын
I remember playing the game this way as a kid lmao, starting with charmander and using only it in battle (though with items). So curious to see how this will turn out!
@EEHEEH10
@EEHEEH10 2 жыл бұрын
I would be funny if st the end of the video Jrose will say "btw kadabra is not my favorite pokemon, it's actually charizard. Haha I tricked you"
@jj48
@jj48 Жыл бұрын
The rival's Blastoise with Charizard's color scheme looks rather terrifying.
@Oso-Gaming
@Oso-Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I did a Charizard (via evolution) solo run a few months ago and ran into the same Gyarados wall you did. My strategy was to open with body slam and hope for the paralysis for more opportunities that hydro pump would miss. I managed after a few attempts and beat the game at level 67. Once Lance was down, the Champion was a joke.
@MAZZ0Murder
@MAZZ0Murder 4 ай бұрын
It's been a long time, but I forgot that Charizard had zero access to flying moves in Red/Blue, making that second time more of a hindrance than not. Yellow gave it access to Fly at least.
@SquallLionhart409
@SquallLionhart409 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding Hydro Pump missing, there is a a 4/5 chance for Hydro Pump to hit per attack. This means there is a 16/25 for two to hit in a row. That's better than 1/3 for at least one missing. It also means that you have a 59% chance of getting a miss in two attempts (four total Hydro Pumps) meaning that "lucky" misses really aren't that lucky. It is actually UNlucky to have two attempts at Gyarados both die to Hydro Pump.
@iiBULLETTii
@iiBULLETTii 2 жыл бұрын
Jrose I have been binge your videos and have loved them all! The most Annoying part now is that I gotta wait till you release your next one.. I should have taken my time as watching your videos urges me to watch more!! Absolutely love the content dude!.
@fsanmiguel666
@fsanmiguel666 2 жыл бұрын
Charizard has 109 Special Attack in Gen II onward, not 100
@MaterClaritas
@MaterClaritas 2 жыл бұрын
ok so i just realized. for all these situations where crits are bad, could you set up focus energy to avoid them sometimes
@tinkerer3399
@tinkerer3399 2 жыл бұрын
The possibility has come up before but I think it was figured that usually it isn't the best option. You want to avoid crits when you are using another boosting move like Swords Dance which means you only wind up with 2 attacking moves and often you want 3.
@bongosmcdongos4190
@bongosmcdongos4190 2 жыл бұрын
It's usually not worth the the lost moveslot
@nickporter9264
@nickporter9264 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Blastoise will do very well. Run it with Surf, ice beam, earthquake, and body slam and you’ll be golden.
@edwardcollins8102
@edwardcollins8102 2 жыл бұрын
Problem with that is the same problem Squirtle had, no harden for Badge Boosts. And Jrose relies on that to an abusive extent.
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardcollins8102 Blastoise has Withdraw so it can boost.
@edwardcollins8102
@edwardcollins8102 2 жыл бұрын
@@DisplayThisOkay I didn't mean it's not a level up move, but what would you drop for Withdraw? Surf for STAB, Ice Beam for Dragons and Aerodactyl, Earthquake for Agatha, and Body Slam for Lorelei. I guess giving up Body Slam would work, but that's a major loss there.
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardcollins8102 How's it a major loss? EQ is better than body slam in every way other than PP and flyer's being immune. And the're both TMs so you can just replace body slam when the time comes.
@PhoenixMasta
@PhoenixMasta 2 жыл бұрын
I think Blastoise may be the better starter just by how good Blizzard is in Gen 1 and the fact it is quite bulky. Surf, Body Slam, Blizzard and Earthquake I think is the winning set for the Elite Four.
@schtreg9140
@schtreg9140 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say I do think your assessment on final level + in-game time misses one last aspect: Number of walls. It's kinda weird that Charizard gets rated in low B tier even tho in the entire run it really only struggled against a single Pokémon which is Lance's Gyarados. Think about it. The position, move set and rest of the team made Gyarados such a shitty match up for Charizard since it couldn't set up against it and had to sustain more attacks after (Aerodactyl). If it wasn't for this single Pokémon, heck even if Lance simply started with a different Pokémon, Charizard would have finished the game much sooner and at a much lower level. I think you really should keep these things in mind when doing the final rating.
@ragefacile4832
@ragefacile4832 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@DisplayThisOkay
@DisplayThisOkay 2 жыл бұрын
Every fire type gets walled by Gyarados. Ponyta was one of the best prevovled runs until he reached Lance and the final rival fights because of Dos. Moltres was better than Articuno and Zapdos for most of the run until the Gyarados spam and the end of the game(and Lorelei). Both of these pokemon got their crap scores because the amount of effort they needed to get past this one pokemon. Charizard isn't special and got the score it deserves.
@KINGBADASS100
@KINGBADASS100 2 жыл бұрын
When you’re done with the starters, I’d really like to see you do a video for Vulpix!
@TheMagicalAnimatron
@TheMagicalAnimatron 2 жыл бұрын
The come down at the end of the month is going to be killer...
@Manuel_Flaggschiff
@Manuel_Flaggschiff 2 жыл бұрын
Love those Videos, It's pure nostalgic for me :D
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade 2 жыл бұрын
At 23:56, the Special increase from the BBG would have made a second Swords Dance viable as the second Hydro Pump most likely wouldn't have knocked Charizard out.
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