1:32 "..cannot do blind test because I'm alone over here." 4:32 ..has an assistant with him.
@PenPeng4 жыл бұрын
I recently had to convince a friend that there is no difference between Dshot1200 and 600 because he hesitated to upgrade to Betaflight 4.2 (on a new copter) because it had no Dshot1200 (whatever version his FC shipped with still had Dshot1200). Thank you for making this video
@mikaelbackstrom4 жыл бұрын
Thats enthusiastic developers for you. I once spent 3 months when I was 25 optimizing a function in an app I developed just because the code looked ugly and I knew I could make it run better. :) As one start to run of time every day one learns to look at the expected result, swallow the pride and be ok with "good enough" as long as it works as expected.
@BBFPV4 жыл бұрын
Indiana Spychalski 👍
@VincentFischer4 жыл бұрын
Or he just finished season3 of yellowstone.
@David__4 жыл бұрын
Nice practical video Pawel! Thanks for sharing :) It would be a little tricky to test consistently, but would be interested to see if there is much of a difference in flight time + motor temps.
@IanF-FPV4 жыл бұрын
Pretty informative test. Thx Pawel.
@TonyBear933 жыл бұрын
New to FPV and had no idea PWM was as bad as it is. Great video!
@mihavuk4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out Pawel. 👍
@MCsCreations4 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting testing, Pawel! Great comparison! 😃 What about with airplanes? Is there still a problem with DSHOT? What do you recommend using? Thanks! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@marinehm4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have a Matek F722std. I was running Dshot600 and had weird oscillations. Changed to Dshot300 and the oscillations went away, it flys great! Maybe I just needed to tune it better? I don’t know.
@snugsel54124 жыл бұрын
Should have started with Howdy! :P
@uavtech4 жыл бұрын
"Howdy partners!"
@magicalpencil4 жыл бұрын
Do you think it could be the same thing with PID loop speeds? I've always wondered about the loop speeds verses actual physics, even if the quad flips at 2000* per second the cpu still has like four cycles per single degree of movement if you run at 8k. Unless I'm wrong about looptimes, which could be the case lol
@blair.nichols4 жыл бұрын
I think you should team up with a "pro" pilot or two and hand them quads to blind test. Loop time and ESC protocol changes woiuld be interesting to know if tyhey can tell the difference.
@karlsonsjekabsonsneiburgso42714 жыл бұрын
Next inav version needs point of interest circle mode and follow mode
@AdrianoCasemiro4 жыл бұрын
I can't tell which PWM protocol is best, whether Dshot does it better. Two things I can say without a doubt. 1 Your flying is fabulous, greatly improved over the last 2 years. 2 that cowboy hat fits you nicely too.
@EnglishTurbines4 жыл бұрын
Oh dear, this is going to upset some Beta Flight Fanboys...probably the same ones who bang on about latency constantly.
@CesiumSalami4 жыл бұрын
I think you have completely the wrong fanboys ... BF eliminated DSHOT1200 and PROSHOT and encourages DSHOT300 for many build configurations as they don't feel the gains from higher rates are worth the (possible) troubles. FL1, Emuflight, Butterflight, Helio those are the groups that would encourage PROSHOT/DSHOT1200/DSHOT2400 OR 4800, or just Multishot instead of DSHOT600. Or KISS at DSHOT2400.
@BrianWebbN4 жыл бұрын
One word: "Duh!" Seriously, thanks for the analysis. I remember all the excitement about DSHOT when it was first being developed and the speculation about how fast it could go, just wondering why? Of course, the bi-direction digital protocols that are coming out now are much more exciting, and, I think can have much more of an impact on performance... assuming there's enough bandwidth to get sufficient telemetry back in time for the FC to have time to do anything with it, while it's waiting for 10 million bits of redundant information being sent to the ECS, just because...
@tedhancock684 жыл бұрын
Some ESC manufacturer was about to release a DSHOT4800 motor controller and KZbin will hear from their lawyers soon! LOL
@chrisleech15654 жыл бұрын
On safari with Pawel :-) This dissertation makes so much less ESC envy for certain. At least for a hack like myself.
@playcss19924 жыл бұрын
imagine if he would have forget to save the changes he made and was flying all the time with dshot 600 :-D
@FPVUniversity4 жыл бұрын
that would be awkward, right?
@MarvinBoydCo3 жыл бұрын
Question, so I have a 10 inch muscle quad running APD 120A ESC’s and radix pdb and radix FC. For some reason I find that proshot 1000 runs like crap compared to Dshot600 even though technically proshot should be better. Think this has something to do with my FC not being an F7 and rather it being an F4?
@53roger4 жыл бұрын
It sounded to me like the motor rpm was a little sluggish using dshot 125. Nice flying
@Siamect4 жыл бұрын
Good pilots only need one motor update per air-gate :)
@BiyaheroTVOfficial4 жыл бұрын
Hi Pawel, can you do 6 vs 7 inch build? Advantages and why would you prefer one over the other? I would love to hear your opinion. Thanks more power.
@FPVUniversity4 жыл бұрын
My opinios is as follows: I stopped flying 6" :)
@BiyaheroTVOfficial4 жыл бұрын
@@FPVUniversity I assumed that 6" might be almost the same as 5" for you? But anyway, by you stopped flying 6" says a lot. I might go with the 7 inch. Thanks man. 🍻
@rongeernaert12084 жыл бұрын
I have 8 blue DYS 40 amp OPTO esc's with SimonK firmware, but I dont now what type (Dshot or PWM) ?
@peterboy2094 жыл бұрын
KK2 compatability?
@swimbeyonder4 ай бұрын
How do you not have aany video break ups? I have fatshark with achillee module and i have always interferences
@FPVUniversity4 ай бұрын
Good quality VTX good quality antennas and good wiring are a key
@audiogek4 жыл бұрын
Dying? 10:03 seemed like the typical whiteout the micro eagle has.
@13FPV4 жыл бұрын
Indeed! Same here...
@joecaraco75034 жыл бұрын
Nice hat!
@danarrib4 жыл бұрын
Nobody, absolutely nobody, needs more than DSHOT300 and 2kHz PID loop frequency.
@larson1753 жыл бұрын
I use 300 and 4khz pid loop :D
@litterbug40234 жыл бұрын
Next test, digital servo signal rate 50hz vs......
@PenPeng4 жыл бұрын
You forgot to test Proshot. It's obviously the best. I mean it has PRO in the name!!1!one!!
@bogenriederlukas4 жыл бұрын
Is there a difference in power efficiency?
@andreas-ohman4 жыл бұрын
No, I tested this a while back: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6XMmqyYiql9hcU
@porroco4 жыл бұрын
FL1 use Dshot32 64 multishot proshot, which one is better for freestyle
@mik4394 жыл бұрын
dshot - protocol do not need to calibrate esc so it is better )))
@maybenikhil4 жыл бұрын
dshot is better even if you aren’t caring about performance it just had more features available
@tedhancock684 жыл бұрын
That's literally the only reason why I use DSHOT.
@jannesbosma98014 жыл бұрын
the looptime is also maximised on ESC speed?
@reptethetetlen4 жыл бұрын
was that an Eagle 2? it is not going to die it just has this white screen thing when light conditions rapidly change
@FPVUniversity4 жыл бұрын
Yeap, Eagle 2 Micro. But from all 3 I have, only this one makes this trick
@michalkonopinski4 жыл бұрын
Paweł Spychalski , zobacz oscarliang.com/fix-runcam-eagle-screen-white-out/
@FPVUniversity4 жыл бұрын
Oscar has everything :)
@josephfreeman52894 жыл бұрын
Dshot1200 on my Aria esc hahaha
@tjburke794 жыл бұрын
I use dshot 2400 🤷♂️
@user-so6lm2ts3b4 жыл бұрын
Странно почему так мало подписчиков у человека который является одним из разработчиков inav...
@igorchuevskyi57714 жыл бұрын
Because he is speaking english but not all pilots know it well and the next obstacle that INAV not so popular in the USA or EU as it popular in Eastern Europe where people mostly speak Russian.
@AlvaSpeed4 жыл бұрын
Multishot looked faster/cleaner.
@FPVUniversity4 жыл бұрын
I think it's due to lower light level and camera using longer exposures
@FlyturboKwad4 жыл бұрын
Yes $1,000,000.00 is better than $1.00.
@DavidHanniganJr4 жыл бұрын
Why are you always trying to convince people to fly old shit? Progress man, progress.