Is DSHOT the best ESC protocol?

[@24kJames]

1:32 "..cannot do blind test because I'm alone over here." 4:32 ..has an assistant with him.

[@PenPeng]

I recently had to convince a friend that there is no difference between Dshot1200 and 600 because he hesitated to upgrade to Betaflight 4.2 (on a new copter) because it had no Dshot1200 (whatever version his FC shipped with still had Dshot1200). Thank you for making this video

[@mikaelbackstrom]

Thats enthusiastic developers for you. I once spent 3 months when I was 25 optimizing a function in an app I developed just because the code looked ugly and I knew I could make it run better. :) As one start to run of time every day one learns to look at the expected result, swallow the pride and be ok with "good enough" as long as it works as expected.

[@David__]

Nice practical video Pawel! Thanks for sharing :) It would be a little tricky to test consistently, but would be interested to see if there is much of a difference in flight time + motor temps.

[@marinehm]

Great video. I have a Matek F722std. I was running Dshot600 and had weird oscillations. Changed to Dshot300 and the oscillations went away, it flys great! Maybe I just needed to tune it better? I don’t know.

[@IanF-FPV]

Pretty informative test. Thx Pawel.

[@mihavuk]

Thanks for pointing that out Pawel. 👍

[@magicalpencil]

Do you think it could be the same thing with PID loop speeds? I've always wondered about the loop speeds verses actual physics, even if the quad flips at 2000* per second the cpu still has like four cycles per single degree of movement if you run at 8k. Unless I'm wrong about looptimes, which could be the case lol

[@karlsonsjekabsonsneiburgso4271]

Next inav version needs point of interest circle mode and follow mode

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty interesting testing, Pawel! Great comparison! 😃 What about with airplanes? Is there still a problem with DSHOT? What do you recommend using? Thanks! And stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@blair.nichols]

I think you should team up with a "pro" pilot or two and hand them quads to blind test. Loop time and ESC protocol changes woiuld be interesting to know if tyhey can tell the difference.

[@BrianWebbN]

One word: "Duh!" Seriously, thanks for the analysis. I remember all the excitement about DSHOT when it was first being developed and the speculation about how fast it could go, just wondering why? Of course, the bi-direction digital protocols that are coming out now are much more exciting, and, I think can have much more of an impact on performance... assuming there's enough bandwidth to get sufficient telemetry back in time for the FC to have time to do anything with it, while it's waiting for 10 million bits of redundant information being sent to the ECS, just because...

[@AdrianoCasemiro]

I can't tell which PWM protocol is best, whether Dshot does it better. Two things I can say without a doubt. 1 Your flying is fabulous, greatly improved over the last 2 years. 2 that cowboy hat fits you nicely too.

[@EnglishTurbines]

Oh dear, this is going to upset some Beta Flight Fanboys...probably the same ones who bang on about latency constantly.

[@CesiumSalami]

I think you have completely the wrong fanboys ... BF eliminated DSHOT1200 and PROSHOT and encourages DSHOT300 for many build configurations as they don't feel the gains from higher rates are worth the (possible) troubles. FL1, Emuflight, Butterflight, Helio those are the groups that would encourage PROSHOT/DSHOT1200/DSHOT2400 OR 4800, or just Multishot instead of DSHOT600. Or KISS at DSHOT2400.

[@playcss1992]

imagine if he would have forget to save the changes he made and was flying all the time with dshot 600 :-D

[@FPVUniversity]

that would be awkward, right?

[@MarvinBoydCo]

Question, so I have a 10 inch muscle quad running APD 120A ESC’s and radix pdb and radix FC. For some reason I find that proshot 1000 runs like crap compared to Dshot600 even though technically proshot should be better. Think this has something to do with my FC not being an F7 and rather it being an F4?

[@53roger]

It sounded to me like the motor rpm was a little sluggish using dshot 125. Nice flying

[@snugsel5412]

Should have started with Howdy! :P

[@uavtech]

"Howdy partners!"

[@chrisleech1565]

On safari with Pawel :-) This dissertation makes so much less ESC envy for certain. At least for a hack like myself.

[@BBFPV]

Indiana Spychalski 👍

[@VincentFischer]

Or he just finished season3 of yellowstone.

[@rongeernaert1208]

I have 8 blue DYS 40 amp OPTO esc's with SimonK firmware, but I dont now what type (Dshot or PWM) ?

[@peterboy209]

KK2 compatability?

[@tedhancock68]

Some ESC manufacturer was about to release a DSHOT4800 motor controller and KZbin will hear from their lawyers soon! LOL

[@BiyaheroTVOfficial]

Hi Pawel, can you do 6 vs 7 inch build? Advantages and why would you prefer one over the other? I would love to hear your opinion. Thanks more power.

[@FPVUniversity]

My opinios is as follows: I stopped flying 6" :)

[@BiyaheroTVOfficial]

@@FPVUniversity I assumed that 6" might be almost the same as 5" for you? But anyway, by you stopped flying 6" says a lot. I might go with the 7 inch. Thanks man. 🍻

[@audiogek]

Dying? 10:03 seemed like the typical whiteout the micro eagle has.

[@13FPV]

Indeed! Same here...

[@swimbeyonder]

How do you not have aany video break ups? I have fatshark with achillee module and i have always interferences

[@FPVUniversity]

Good quality VTX good quality antennas and good wiring are a key

[@porroco]

FL1 use Dshot32 64 multishot proshot, which one is better for freestyle

[@jannesbosma9801]

the looptime is also maximised on ESC speed?

[@bogenriederlukas]

Is there a difference in power efficiency?

[@andreas-ohman]

No, I tested this a while back: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6XMmqyYiql9hcU

[@reptethetetlen]

was that an Eagle 2? it is not going to die it just has this white screen thing when light conditions rapidly change

[@FPVUniversity]

Yeap, Eagle 2 Micro. But from all 3 I have, only this one makes this trick

[@michalkonopinski]

Paweł Spychalski , zobacz oscarliang.com/fix-runcam-eagle-screen-white-out/

[@FPVUniversity]

Oscar has everything :)

[@Siamect]

Good pilots only need one motor update per air-gate :)

[@danarrib]

Nobody, absolutely nobody, needs more than DSHOT300 and 2kHz PID loop frequency.

[@larson175]

I use 300 and 4khz pid loop :D

[@litterbug4023]

Next test, digital servo signal rate 50hz vs......

[@mik439]

dshot - protocol do not need to calibrate esc so it is better )))

[@maybenikhil]

dshot is better even if you aren’t caring about performance it just had more features available

[@tedhancock68]

That's literally the only reason why I use DSHOT.

[@PenPeng]

You forgot to test Proshot. It's obviously the best. I mean it has PRO in the name!!1!one!!

[@joecaraco7503]

Nice hat!

[@josephfreeman5289]

Dshot1200 on my Aria esc hahaha

[@tjburke79]

I use dshot 2400 🤷‍♂️

[@AlvaSpeed]

Multishot looked faster/cleaner.

[@FPVUniversity]

I think it's due to lower light level and camera using longer exposures

[@SSDBlender3D]

Странно почему так мало подписчиков у человека который является одним из разработчиков inav...

[@igorchuevskyi5771]

Because he is speaking english but not all pilots know it well and the next obstacle that INAV not so popular in the USA or EU as it popular in Eastern Europe where people mostly speak Russian.

[@FlyturboKwad]

Yes $1,000,000.00 is better than $1.00.

[@lookman04]

the video's title is grammatically confusing

[@DavidHanniganJr]

Why are you always trying to convince people to fly old shit? Progress man, progress.