Is DSP Amplifier the right choice for you? Yes, but maybe no...

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@yonson_racing
@yonson_racing 3 ай бұрын
I have an older Mosconi D2 100.4 DSP in my truck, it's been amazing and it's so small that it fits easily right behind the factory display!
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 3 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@20smgreen
@20smgreen 3 ай бұрын
I've run the Arc Audio PS8-50 for 2 years now and love it. However, I do miss my Mosconi 6to8v8 DSP, but this Arc piece is a dream. Eventually I'll be stepping up to its replacement, the Blackbird.
@KINGZSPEED
@KINGZSPEED 3 ай бұрын
I am running an AudioTec Fisher Helix V8 MK2 for my 3 way front stage and rear fills and a Helix P One MK2 for subs. I have limited space and Helix and Brax have the best DSP’s and DSP amplifiers. The V8 75x8 at 4 ohms and 120x8 at 2 ohms and DSP on board. Helix P One does 1500-1800 watts at 1 ohm. Both are super small for what they can do.
@melissathompson7229
@melissathompson7229 3 ай бұрын
When customers can't afford everything at once i try to have them do a DSP amp on their stock speakers with a subwoofer and then add new speakers as budget allows. Much better results than going with good speakers but no way to set them up properly
@MotoAtheist
@MotoAtheist 2 ай бұрын
People have been setting up car audio without DSP for decades, so DSP is hardly that dire. Most new decks have enough built in DSP to get the job done for majority of people.
@goyslop4289
@goyslop4289 2 ай бұрын
​@MotoAtheist dsps are more tuneable than most aftermarket decks, and a must have if your using a factory radio. Anyone that does car audio somewhat seriously knows this.
@MotoAtheist
@MotoAtheist 2 ай бұрын
@@goyslop4289 Desirable, but not dire. Depends on their budget and goals. The majority of car audio sales are to people not looking to build showcase audio systems. People who keep the stock head unit are usually on a really tight budget and just want some improvement which typically means replacing door speakers adding a subwoofer and one amp to run it all and that maxes out their budget. You tell them they need a DSP due to the factory radio, they'll most likely rather spend that money on a new head unit which will have all the DSP they need. My head unit has DSP and EQ and gets the job done fine, my system sounds great and it wasn't some overly expensive head unit either, middle of the pack at most. The only addition I plan to make is bass restorer epicenter at some point, but it's hardly dire also. As for your "Anyone that does car audio somewhat seriously knows this." Well, that same person would also know to push for an aftermarket head unit before keeping the stock one.
@aleyer_s
@aleyer_s 3 ай бұрын
Bought Match 7-channel DSP amplifier. Spent about half a year to tune it correctly. Happy with results.
@jaydawg116
@jaydawg116 Ай бұрын
First time I've seen you cover mosconi products (pop in from time to time) Definitely give Orca some love, they're probably the most quality audio distributor in North America, and Nalaka and his crew are great to work with!
@bdavbdavbdavbdav
@bdavbdavbdavbdav 3 ай бұрын
So pleased with the Audiotec Fischer MATCH I’ve put in stealth. Fantastic that it can be run on a T-Harness and removed in no time to drop it back to stock.
@blackmachismo08
@blackmachismo08 3 ай бұрын
Yeyyyyyy I love Mosconi amps! I have a 130.4 and a 1/10 and to me they give me they are the best sounding amps I have ever used!
@jettycatmeow5412
@jettycatmeow5412 3 ай бұрын
What a great video. Straight forward and to the point with good recommendations.
@theycallmeherbie
@theycallmeherbie 3 ай бұрын
I prefer to have each component separate. If the DSP is built in, and said amp fails and or a single channel fails, your out $$$. If each component is separate, it's a lot less money to replace. I always "show off" components. I've never liked descrete builds. My entire trunk layout is a "display" meant to look like a computer motherboard/circuit. With enough room for just a single 10" sub. There are amps, processors, batteries, inverters, game consoles, old school capacitors from the 90s in the trunk. No DSP though because I kept everything era appropriate for a 99' Maxima. This single 10" physically hurts my teeth on certain frequencies.
@realrussia7490
@realrussia7490 3 ай бұрын
Dsp is a must, if you are looking for Sound-quality, where the most important thing is the possibility to work with sound delay.
@jp1087
@jp1087 3 ай бұрын
DSP is great if all of your amplification is class D. I'd like to see a company design a class A amp with built in DSP. Something like that would be reminiscent of the good ol' days where people had two or more 30-band eq's in their SQ builds.
@yonson_racing
@yonson_racing 3 ай бұрын
I'm not sure of any Class A amps with built in DSP, but Mosconi does have a couple Class AB amps with built in DSP.
@bc8Sooners
@bc8Sooners 3 ай бұрын
People usually buy amp + dsp in one because of limited install space and also need more than 4 channels, Class A usually larger in dimension.
@coolme241
@coolme241 3 ай бұрын
There are plenty of them I have one 10ch with 12ch DSP
@pt4269
@pt4269 3 ай бұрын
This amp is awesome. I have the v1 version. This one is V2
@andrewkenny742
@andrewkenny742 2 ай бұрын
Vxi amp owner, have really enjoyed playing with tunes thus far. Still learning slowly but next step is get a microphone and start dialing it in further.
@dennisrothmel
@dennisrothmel 3 ай бұрын
would love to see a Mosconi pico + focal build from you someday!
@JessieC576
@JessieC576 2 ай бұрын
Any advice on how to give my non bose/non amplified? I already have the T/loop harness matched to my make and model base trailboss silverado. Just want to know what I'll need next. I'm also adding Rockford fosgate prime speakers/tweeters and a possibly a sub in the future. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Awesome Chanel BTW. My vehicle is a 2021 trailboss custom.
@TylorSwain12
@TylorSwain12 3 ай бұрын
Hi, hoping you can help me. I'm torn between JL audio RD400/4 and the Sony XM GS4 do you have any advice for these 4channel amps, thanks
@DarronSanderson
@DarronSanderson 2 ай бұрын
My dream system would be (3) Mosconi Zero series, A-Class beasts (1) for tweets, (1) for mids, (1) for midbass. Then, a Mosconi Zero D-Class bridged to the subs. 💰
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 2 ай бұрын
That's a very nice system! Get it!
@DarronSanderson
@DarronSanderson 2 ай бұрын
@@CarAudioFabrication yes sir Mark. Focal M TBM tweets and M3.5s in custom apillars. M6.5S in kicks. JL 12" prowedge. DM-810 DSP. For hires source, Astell&Keen SP3000 DAP. 4grand just for the hi res player lol.
@jaydawg116
@jaydawg116 Ай бұрын
Also- 1 more drawback for a DSP amplifier. Typically- if you're going apples to apples, same audio company providing a dsp and multichannel amplifier, compared to the same company's all in one dsp amplifier, the dsp amplifier will typically (most companies, not all) have less RMS output per channel than the standalone dsp upstream of the multichannel amplifier. Mosconi doesn't have this problem in their Pico or ONE line of products, but other audio companies may. For instance, another audio company that I use in my shop is musway, for those customers who cannot afford mosconi but want quality on a budget. Their DSP 4 channel amplifier is the M4+, which will provide 100wx4 at 4ohm RMS. Comparatively, i could set them up with the DSP68 and the non DSP 4 channel provided by musway, the FOUR.100. This amplifier is 130x4 at 4ohm RMS, Same line of thought applies the more channels you add, the 6ch dsp amplifier is 70wx6 rms and the non dsp amp is 120x6. This is a common occurance in a lot of amp brands.
@gain6786
@gain6786 2 ай бұрын
Any tips for proper installation for speakers that are mounted to the door card (not the door body)
@whatswrong8428
@whatswrong8428 2 ай бұрын
I wish there was a playlist on his channel on all his how to
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 2 ай бұрын
It's essentially my whole channel, come watch! I do have some more targeted playlists as well
@RobertMoore-vc2kq
@RobertMoore-vc2kq 3 ай бұрын
Hey love the content .... im looking to build out a cx9 and would have 13 drivers before adding subs what in your opinion would be the best way to do this? I have a few ideas but not sure 100% ill be using alpine s2 speakers to replace all current locations adding 4 tweeters by way of 8inch components up front and 4inch components in the far rear pillers. Do you maybe even have a link to an old video of yours if its a lot to cover thanks in advance .
@rydgomez2
@rydgomez2 2 ай бұрын
Are there plug and play wire harness available for DSP when replacing factory amplifier
@JG-pj3bg
@JG-pj3bg Ай бұрын
If I had a more complicated system I would add a DSP but the new system I am building has only 6.5 coaxial and 6x9 coaxial and 2 slim 10 inch subs and a aftermarket radio , there’s enough crossover control in my basic setup already but I will add a line driver
@donutlord501st5
@donutlord501st5 2 ай бұрын
Just finishing a 1974 VW bug. Time to install the audio system. I have watched numerous videos on this channel to try and figure out the best system. I love the idea of a DSP I’m just curious if a good head unit would be good enough. My plan is to use 6.5 components w/tweeters up front in kick panels with 6x9 coaxial in back with 10 inch sub. Looking for any tips or advice. This car is for my son who really enjoys music and plays several instruments so quality over loudness. Thanks
@MotoAtheist
@MotoAtheist 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the built in head unit DSP will be plenty fine for that setup. Just make sure the head unit has left and right RCA out for front and rear and separate subwoofer RCA out.
@GladiatorJT20
@GladiatorJT20 Ай бұрын
Is a DSP good for a ground zero coaxial SPL speakers
@centralcoaster33
@centralcoaster33 3 ай бұрын
Does the JVC KD-T920BTS head unit crossover, with slope, gain, size, distance, and output control count as a DSP? I'm having trouble figuring it out, but treating it like one. Thanks for the videos!
@k24hybrid
@k24hybrid 3 ай бұрын
Just took a brief look at the JVC smarphone app and in the "Receiver Settings" it show time alignment, EQ and the crossover you mention i imagine is "Speaker/Subwoofer/Car Settings", then you have the main components of a DSP 😁. Of course, the EQ on a regular DSP would have more featurws (like more bands, more adjustments, etc), but that stereo has nice options to play around with 😁. Very cool to see advances features in single din units, although they are normally high end and expensive 😅👍👍
@andrewkenny742
@andrewkenny742 2 ай бұрын
@centralcoaster33 somewhat of a dsp but nowhere near as much flexibility as a real dsp. My kenwood has some pretty solid dsp settings too but I don't use any of it having a VXi amp and waaay more flexability there.
@jsfkmm
@jsfkmm 2 ай бұрын
Quick question I have a 2018 gmc sierra 1500 with the factory bose amp what do I need to but becides a aftermarket amp to bypass the bose amp
@Karl_08g
@Karl_08g 2 ай бұрын
Im thinking of upgrading my sound system. I'm thinking of running 3 amps with 8 channels totally. Right now I'm running a head unit with a built in dsp and 4 ch output. Should I upgrade to a head unit with 6ch output and dsp(it's cheaper) ore Should I get a dsp with 8ch? One of the amps have 2ch output.
@RAVI-HUB
@RAVI-HUB 2 ай бұрын
I got 1200-watt JBL subwoofer with built-in amplifier in box. Can i connect tweeter and how? I have no idea about the amplifier because everything was builtin
@dannyavalos9873
@dannyavalos9873 3 ай бұрын
I have a 2020 Cadillac CT5 with the bose system can you ad the DSP amplifier to it or do I have to replace all the stock speakers?
@selahbishop9120
@selahbishop9120 3 ай бұрын
i am buiding a system with a tablet as the main deck coming from the audio jacks into the dsp but is there something that should go before the dsp is my question.
@megames800
@megames800 3 ай бұрын
Which coaxial speakers have nice audio quality but still a very nice price?
@Technotranceism
@Technotranceism 3 ай бұрын
It's really preference, but I've always liked pioneer.
@aleyer_s
@aleyer_s 3 ай бұрын
I installed Alpine S series into the rear doors and really liked them. Though tuning is done for the front row, there's something in sound I like more when sitting in the back
@eclypse3d
@eclypse3d 3 ай бұрын
What you suggest to add to an audio system from the factory that already has a 900watt amp?
@_FJB_
@_FJB_ 3 ай бұрын
Speakers
@Jonathan_Doe_
@Jonathan_Doe_ 3 ай бұрын
Depends what you’re not happy about with the current setup? If the factory head unit doesn’t have DSP, you could tap into the loom between the factory head unit and the amplifier and fit a DSP unit there to time align/EQ the signal.
@angelnoguera1209
@angelnoguera1209 3 ай бұрын
Would you set your crossovers on only the dsp? and set the amp to 0/flat and headunit
@melissathompson7229
@melissathompson7229 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@jimmywilson1388
@jimmywilson1388 3 ай бұрын
What amp would you use with a single Sundown 8? Also how should I go about wiring an amp with the factory head unit in a 2008 Escape? It’s the limited so it has a factory sub from audiofile or something like that…😂
@jasx1485
@jasx1485 3 ай бұрын
What is the sundown 8. A dual 2ohm ,1ohm or 4ohm. It really all depends on how you can wire the subwoofer
@jimmywilson1388
@jimmywilson1388 3 ай бұрын
@@jasx1485Oh shit the bed… Idk 😅
@jasx1485
@jasx1485 3 ай бұрын
@@jimmywilson1388 I wrote on this comment before it got edited. I just seen were you put what amp for for the 8.
@jimmywilson1388
@jimmywilson1388 3 ай бұрын
@@jasx1485 Haha I think I’ll just take it to somebody… It sounds complicated
@jasx1485
@jasx1485 3 ай бұрын
​@@jimmywilson1388 it's not to complicated but there is a learning curve fo sho
@delreytamayo6283
@delreytamayo6283 3 ай бұрын
Are there any 5 channel DSP amplifiers?
@abdulgamietlanders
@abdulgamietlanders 2 ай бұрын
I have an active subwoofer that doesn't turn on, I know all the wires are okay because I connected two different amps and they both switched on, what could the problem be
@superfieryandre1
@superfieryandre1 3 ай бұрын
Dsp is always the best way to go
@KernelFault
@KernelFault 3 ай бұрын
You can tune a system, but you can't tuna fish. Yuk, yuk!
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 3 ай бұрын
Hahah that's a grade A dad joke
@Technotranceism
@Technotranceism 3 ай бұрын
🤦
@lancekanewhart6086
@lancekanewhart6086 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@SinisterBlackShadow
@SinisterBlackShadow 3 ай бұрын
😂
@joelglover9400
@joelglover9400 2 ай бұрын
Lol Oskool
@photographcenter8456
@photographcenter8456 2 ай бұрын
Man I need some help with my system. I went with ds18 pro audio speakers on a 3k taramps and I know they Aren’t SQL speakers but they are less sound quality then the crappy oem speakers in my truck yet only a little louder. My buddy said I need a dsp to tune it correctly and make them louder but I’m just as concerned about the quality and don’t know what to do. Again I get my expectations maybe were too high but I find it hard to believe the quality would worse than stock! Hope you see this and thanks in advance.
@forsaken1776
@forsaken1776 3 ай бұрын
With so much factory crap using the factory radio, do you have a vid on figuring out what it takes to put a high power system in while keeping the factory unit? or a way to do that and replace with a better head unit?
@melissathompson7229
@melissathompson7229 3 ай бұрын
If your vehicle is covered use Idata AR, Amp Pro or Axxess DSP and itll give you a flat 4 or 5 volt output and clean up the crappy signal
@MotoAtheist
@MotoAtheist 2 ай бұрын
You can get adapters for most vehicles that allow you to swap out the factory deck with an aftermarket and still keep all the steering wheel functions and any other vehicle communications intact. You can can get amp bypass kits as well for any factory amplifiers that may be installed. Some vehicles are more of a challenge then others, but there is usually a way to get it done.
@connorbishop3289
@connorbishop3289 3 ай бұрын
Aw man I love to have one of your builds in my car. I did my own but it’s budget and frankly meh. Maybe one day in the future haha. Would be awesome if I would be able to help, work, and learn beside you too (obviously not deducting any charges, just maybe the time it takes you haha). Cheers man, love the content and information :)
@_FJB_
@_FJB_ 3 ай бұрын
He should offer classes.
@connorbishop3289
@connorbishop3289 3 ай бұрын
@@_FJB_ he so shouldddd
@thatguykai479
@thatguykai479 3 ай бұрын
Keep self teaching yourself and perfecting the craft in Your car we’re lucky we even have the capability to look up everything nowadays on google or KZbin to do it yourself. Back then everything was trial and error a lot of people had to fail in order to learn but nowadays so many have failed and are able to share that experience to us so we can learn from them. 🤙🏽
@jmswillow5969
@jmswillow5969 3 ай бұрын
You don't have to break the bank to have great sound. Biggest tip is sound deadening. A good line driver. Good quality rca's , wiring and quality amps. Fisgate amps still are the best bang for your buck. Do not use CCA power and grounds. Use OFC.
3 ай бұрын
Choosing the Audison Forza DSP amp was the worst decision I made when I started building my system. It overheats even when idle for just a few hours, with the trunk open and all trims removed, if the temperature is over 25°C outside. While it looks good on paper - compact, with lots of channels and plenty of power - it’s too good to be true. Don’t make the same mistake I did, or you'll waste a lot of money and time
@hakaandrei
@hakaandrei 2 ай бұрын
Hey guys i have a question , i have a DB MF15R , i was testing it in free air for a bit trying to get it lose with 300 400 w only for 20 30 mins and the magnet got so hot i couldn't touch it , i saw that on the back of the sub there is a sticker that covers that small hole for the coil . Should i cut that out or (Idk if that a cooling feature or whatever im a beginner) ?
@MotoAtheist
@MotoAtheist 2 ай бұрын
Yes, that is a cooling hole.
@Valverde713
@Valverde713 3 ай бұрын
Most head units come with a DSP built in, is that not sufficient enough?
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 3 ай бұрын
No they do not. Head units do not even come close to the channel to channel processing capability of a real DSP
@roadlife9312
@roadlife9312 3 ай бұрын
Maybe I over looked it, no pricing,and where to buy?
@bradlycriswell1990
@bradlycriswell1990 3 ай бұрын
big money, looking like around 1500$ for a 400 wrms amp/dsp At that price you could buy a 1000.4 4 channel and a nice dsp and get way more bang for the buck,
@silverevans7763
@silverevans7763 3 ай бұрын
I tried a DSP I had it installed and sounded like crap. Where I live there is no audio shop that really knows how to tune it. Lasted 3 days had it pulled out.
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 3 ай бұрын
Let's use some deductive reasoning here... If the shop didn't know what they were doing... and didn't know how to tune it, that would be an error of the installer... not the DSP.
@silverevans7763
@silverevans7763 3 ай бұрын
Yes I know that I would love to add the Helix mk3 but in Texas where I live I can't find a Audio Shop that can tune it . That's the most important thing for a DSP. Front doors Focal es165kx2 rear Focal EC-165K XD600-6V2 CLS10"W7 XD600-1V2 the most important piece missing is a DSP then I would have a bad ass system. I love you're videos Mark keep them coming.
@gjkrisa
@gjkrisa 3 ай бұрын
dsp i guess really are not that big i’ve seen diy plans that use pi picos but are not documented all that well so still have not built one.
@jonathanharris185
@jonathanharris185 3 ай бұрын
Yee first
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 3 ай бұрын
Let's go!
@duffy1678
@duffy1678 3 ай бұрын
Make a video hooking up a dsp I'm new to this. I'm used to Rockford fosgate amps.
@CarAudioFabrication
@CarAudioFabrication 3 ай бұрын
I have a few on the channel!
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