Is Eternal Sleep Any Good In Elden Ring?

[@emma6681]

i wish i had eternal sleep

[@AlejandroMartinez-fw3gt]

Do not, I heard that it's eternal

[@Peanutman2341]

Yeah

[@akif.trk6147]

Real

[@adamhajda2408]

So true😔

[@MorrisseyCullen]

Thioller’s burner account

[@ItchyPeenar]

it does somewhat upset me when devs add in really cool but op status effects because you’ll never be able to use them except on normal fodder enemies who already die without much trouble

[@windrider2190]

Nevermind the fact that 95% of the bosses in SotE are immune to Sleep, making Sleep builds basically pointless in the dlc.

[@foxywoxy1915]

@@windrider2190Yeah, Thio’s AoW is the only saving grace for the status as even the stagger will proc its bonus damage but you don’t get it until… after you beat everything

[@BenefitCounterbench]

That's why I respeced my Trina character. Thematically it was fun to create but pointless, so I modified it to be Marika-build as it has more tools and Holy dmg is not trash in the DLC

[@hardgay7537]

@@windrider2190 That's odd, considering most of the base game is vulnerable to sleep or drowsy. Halfway through the game I respecced because you basically need two St Trinas swords to keep up with rising sleep thresholds. The added stagger makes up for the low damage, but when enemies stop getting drowsy, the build just becomes the worst powerstanced straight sword build.

[@itzfactionyt]

@@windrider2190I wish holy was more useable. Most bosses have high holy res and holy weapons re probably some of the coolest in the game

[@maskedmisfit364]

I wish there were more bosses that could be put to sleep.

[@BaezileCarnivera]

Eternal sleep acts exactly the same as sleep except that for a few seconds after the enemy is put to sleep (proper sleep like with the bears, not stagger sleep like what happens for Tarnished) you can wail on them and they won't wake up. After the few seconds are up, the enemy will be put into the normal sleep state which will cause them to wake up when you hit them.

[@JustYourFriendlyLuluCultist]

Depends on the enemy. Caelid dogs, for example, sleep indefinitely. "Powerful" enemies, like trolls and runebears, act like you said

[@BaezileCarnivera]

@@JustYourFriendlyLuluCultist This is true, but the enemies that are put to truly eternal sleep are usually pretty weak and can be taken down easier with other means especially when the cookbook for the pots is in the DLC.

[@avalidnamepls]

To make it easier, look at the...mist...from sleep. If its a deep purple, go ham. If its a light purple, be ready to fight when you hit it

[@amiz1372]

@@BaezileCarniverathose bears are no joke so that interaction is actually really nice but other than that eternal sleep is pretty mid

[@alexromero2211]

Eternal sleep also does this with the stagger. if you hit enemies while in an animation before they get the regular sleep stagger it will remove the sleep effect and it will never happen. If you do this with the eternal sleep they will still stagger after their animation finishes. This is much better if you want to sleep into stagger combo. It's very niche but has its uses

[@SuitorASMR]

Honestly it would be so cool if you could put the Lion to sleep and he would have a unique phase in doing so since he is just 2 dudes under a carpet id imagin its the dude in the bag who falls asleep which causes the head to go on a rampage leaving the other behind

[@curtisthecactus]

LOL that would be a sight to see

[@marystone860]

Teaches Miquella to chuck St. Trina into a hole, left her for dead! It's like, you not only fulfilled her wishes, BUT, you kinda had St. Trina fighting WITH you! You kicked that thing's A$$, with her ACTUAL sword! Still cool, I think!

[@EricIsntSmart]

I really wish it was good, because it's my favorite status effect based on its lore alone, and saint trina is my favorite character (Also there is technically one other weapon that inflicts eternal sleep, you just can't get it until you've already beat radahn)

[@EmeralBookwise]

Eternal sleep is pretty much what regular sleep from the base game should have always been, and I really wish instead of adding eternal sleep, they had just buffed regular sleep.

[@mangafgc2891]

Thiollier hidden Needle is actually insane

[@EricIsntSmart]

@@mangafgc2891 if they ever make sleep actually good, the hidden needle would hands down be my favorite weapon. Against enemies that can actually fall asleep it's so fun and strong and still not super overpowered

[@Vinnyyt2233]

Its good to have you back, love the content, missed you man

[@josephdellavecchia7828]

I like the idea of eternal sleep, but there should have been more sleep weapons. At least some way of dual wielding sleep weapons without going to NG+

[@Necromancer-CC]

You could always use the regular sost, but yeah, maybe a spear would have been nice

[@josephdellavecchia7828]

@Necromancer-CC i wish but sleep and eternal sleep are two different status build ups

[@henrryeaeaea]

​@@josephdellavecchia7828Are you sure that it doesn't work just like the differents versions of poison and rot? Where the only that matters is the final blow that sets the specific type of proc. At the very least, at the players end it must be the same build-up because we don't have a new effect bar

[@josephdellavecchia7828]

@henrryeaeaea I did very limited testing so that may be the case. If you can verify ir know somone who has, I would greatly appreciate it.

[@HowardsCat]

@@henrryeaeaea It does indeed work like that. You can use either sleep or eternal sleep to build up the bar, but what you use to finally fill it entirely is what determines which of the statuses takes hold.

[@dawnweaver2529]

7:30 was so goofy I love it lol.

[@oricipriani1609]

Looks like Curtis's back on the menu boys!

[@Curtisknuteaon]

Thanks for the research, also nice fight w Radan!

[@glasspsyche3514]

and when his people needed him most, the king returned

[@emanuellegalvan4123]

Always enjoy rewatching your videos keep up the great work Curtis ❤

[@Shadowolf1181]

Note : There is a mushroom sellers bell bearing right beside the cave for the 2 head turtle talisman. Lets you buy the mushrooms you need for this.

[@henryduncan1826]

Curtis posts on the day i have one of my exams? Must be a sign that i have good fortune

[@powerseatmusic]

If you’re gonna do sleep, maybe do it in your convergence mod series. There are better weapons and a lot more sleep inflicting options. It would make a good watch.

[@9amesstarthere]

I started messing around with sleep recently in my ng7 cycles. Currently at ng+20 and been a sleep lover since +13. A surprisingly large variety of enemies are weak or prone to sleep, some of them being obvious ones like bears and godskins and others not as much so like every beastman and animal foe, almost every humanoid enemy, etc. Sleep in general gets a bad rep for not being OP. Its good. ER players have a hard time giving anything a chance unless it can destroy something or cheese.

[@zangatsubankai]

YES! YES! YES! YES!! He's back! Real happy to see Curtis back. Makes me happy to see these vids.

[@curtisthecactus]

We're so back

[@zangatsubankai]

@@curtisthecactus Glad to have you back, sir.

[@nousagi7437]

Your drip kind of reminds me of FF Dark Knight class without the helmet, or maybe a darker version of Kain from Blood Omen 2, friggin love it

[@outlaw446]

Glad my favorite Cactus is back. Also you think you'll check out Garden of Eyes mod soon?

[@nghthawk-ri8zj]

Elden Ring: We introduced a new more powerful type of sleep. It's called Eternal Sleep. Have fun. Everyone: Does it make enemies sleep forever? ER: Lol. No. Everyone: Okay, but is it useful in PVP, at least? ER: Also, no. Everyone: So what's the point? ER: You can make bears hibernate. Oooooooooooh. Innovative. Give us your money.

[@CraigCR]

Finally. A page I like after going thru dozens of Elden ring channels lol subscribed 💪🏾

[@rudcol8164]

Can't wait to see what the convergence mode is cooking

[@firmomitted5536]

Some of the information in video is wrong. The Hippo can be slept, so can Gaiuss and the Putrescent Knight, it's just stupidly difficult to do so. There's also the fist weapon you get after defeating the final boss and following Thiollier's questline.

[@curtisthecactus]

oh okay, thanks for this, I tried and cross checked with the wiki and they must've been wrong

[@protanesniffer]

Im surprised midra isn't a sleeper, considering that in lore sleep quells madness, and frenzied commoners are weak to sleep

[@foxywoxy1915]

They also aren’t missing their heads and aren’t now Frenzied Flame itself

[@protanesniffer]

@@foxywoxy1915 haha you got me there

[@Trollinsa]

6:05 man, I tought it was the headless ape from Sekiro 😭

[@sirmallboii9285]

That character and armour reminds me about that dude from adventure with the black armour

[@DanEthan-b7u]

Curtis will u soon play convergence mod including dlc?

[@kennethstiles9000]

Love to see another video from you. cant wait to see more.

[@curtisthecactus]

Editing the next one right now!

[@aislingwalsh09]

I was in the top 0.2% of your viewers this year. Great content keep up the good work

[@bot-tg7ik]

He's back!!!! ascended mod dlc when lol?

[@GxGNoir]

Exactly what I was looking for, thank you

[@somebody4094]

welcome back

[@someguynamedmatt3753]

The way the thumbnail was I thought there was an update to convergence that possible made the sleep class into the new sleep but sadly no

[@curtisthecactus]

it's okay, new convergence on the way

[@BiggieCrescent]

Wish we had more weapons, only the Fist weapon and the two St. Trina swords is such a bummer 😭🙏

[@willowplayzwhatifs]

Holy shit you actually did my recommendation 😳

[@ashleighbush9811]

I'd love your sliders! Theyre great

[@The-Sound-Vault]

Very appealing thumbnail I must say

[@somebody4094]

curtis is back just in time to experience the convergence 2.1 update

[@curtisthecactus]

damn right :)

[@The1RealVoltican]

An armor drip I’d wear… if you love DnD: Thoiler’s armor [Altered] Thoilers Set Instead of the Helm: Black Hood It’s the rogue complete set

[@ZEZO0394]

Dude that was hell of a consort fight👏👏👏

[@curtisthecactus]

Thanks!

[@stravvman]

11:42 What makes you think this sleep was eternal?

[@serges.a.s1841]

Ayyyye been a while since you uploaded. Always happy to see your videos. I'll probably watch i later tho, i have to work a Lil bit on those eternal home works before going to sleep (shitty pun intended)

[@aphidamas1]

There is a weird bug with eternal sleep where if you kill an afflicted enemy they get stuck in a limbo state where they do their death animation but don't change to the ragdoll state or give you runes. You can't walk through them or move them like normal dead ragdoll enemies. If you walk far enough away you do get the runes so I think the level geometry despawns and the enemy actually dies from a falling death.

[@Eldenszay]

The legend is back🎉😊

[@rileymiller3154]

The tree avatar boss is the embodiment of the phrase "how many times do I need to kill you to stay dead?"

[@Impetuous_Productions]

Proud of u my guy, he'll of a fight

[@Promised_consort_Limeowl]

Hes back yes

[@EdynFox]

Dude, the fact that i know the exact video where u took that character appearance because i also did a run of pure sleep itens/weapons 😂

[@curtisthecactus]

LMFAOO

[@seanbrooks5863]

He’s back yes

[@arianightrose4792]

I love using sleep in the dlc when you get the needle. Non bosses sleep forever and you can just beat them to death and bosses can be hit multiple times before waking up.

[@JoyHunter11]

hes finally backkkkk

[@WizelBalan]

I wonder if it is a good strat to use sleep/et sleep on bosses that it works on and then swap out to a heavy hitting weapon like the chicken wing for some big free damage while they are waking up.

[@Jebsabitch]

Curtis convergence plus dlc is know avaliable it looks so good i cant wait to you play it

[@curtisthecactus]

I'm going to start recording it as soon as I wake up tomorrow!

[@amiz1372]

may i just say that radahn fight was very impressive

[@trueclp111]

at 1:14 you said its the only weapon with eternal sleep wich is not correct there is another called Thiollier's Hidden Needle

[@curtisthecactus]

oh my fault! I should've clarified that it's the only obtainable one from the start of the game!

[@squidwardshouse830]

What was the small tree animation when you went to a site of grace? Is that a mod?

[@DooMIInIIiik]

Next vid test eternal sleep to base game mobs boss and npcs

[@DemonKingHiei]

My head canon tells me if the hippo could sleep, he would have dreams where he kicks his legs like a dog running Also FromSoft missed a great opportunity to have the black knight with the tongue have his tongue hang out when he dies the sleep animation

[@timelineenjoyer]

i just like the visual effect of sleep. but somehow mixing it with bleed and a weapon with huge stagger like gs w giant hunt might be viable, esp for pvp

[@Sarnan90]

great PCR fight my guy.

[@SophiaTheAll-Knowing]

I think the sword was meantto be dual wielded with the normal st trina sword. Not sure if thay would chage damage output. But i bet NG+3 with two velvet swords is crazy.

[@Nelekroce]

To be honest, the Divine Beast Dancing Lion spends any time except battles sleeping, so if I slept all the time I wouldn't wanna fall asleep either lol

[@LTM_216]

bro is abusing sleep and backshots 💀💀

[@curtisthecactus]

damn right ;)

[@Neon-bq8ni]

Hi! Please play Lords of the Fallen that came out last year. It is such a beautiful game, and a well polished souls like. One of my favorite ever right after DS3, Lies of P and Sekiro!

[@curtisthecactus]

Will do!

[@Neon-bq8ni]

Awesome! Just like elden ring spells are almost essantial for the game, I made a sick radiance build. Can't wait to see what you'll make! ​@@curtisthecactus

[@spygaming1204]

Easy sub just for the name bro, I love your name

[@GxGNoir]

i hate ghostflame dragon being immune to sleep when it is literally sleeping when we find it. dancing lion too

[@danielrobinson7872]

Strong enemies are outright immune, and the build up is so slow that I can’t even proc it before killing weaker ones. Completely useless.

[@topgamingclan692]

Would be cool if you could remove bosses from every ng+ if you kill them with eternal sleep

[@Goku-zu3rk]

You teleported yourself into the dlc? Why did you not give yourself max materials?

[@curtisthecactus]

good... question...

[@Goku-zu3rk]

@@curtisthecactus what mod did you use anyway mate? The grand merchant doesn't seem to work currently

[@null64799]

Tip: Elden ring has one problem your character is short so guess what that means any big boss that has a cross attack especially midra and radhan just crouch and you dodge it instantly

[@Kohcreed522]

You could dual wield the normal st Trina’s sword with the purple one. Idk if that’d do more damage

[@DarksheeYT]

sleep was my fav stat when i first found it... thought it would be amazing.. until i realized quickly that fromsoft gave it no love whatsoever

[@IsThatKris]

Every enemy should be susceptible to any status effect besides lore based immunity like Malenia and Rot. Otherwise there’s simply going to be useless ailments

[@KamadakeX]

Now do it again, but with the other Eternal Sleep weapon; Thiollier’s Hidden Needle 😉

[@curtisthecactus]

LOL

[@enterusername6953]

Twice. Fromsoft decided to waste the potential to explore the Sleep status twice. How did they do that when the DLC has St. Trina in it? Eternal Sleep is lackluster, bosses in Sote are immune to sleep, no unique sleep enemies, little unique sleep weapons. You even have a Remembrance boss (PK) you fight before meeting St. Trina but he doesn't have sleep powers, but FROST? What were they thinking with that design choice and wasted potential? We could of had a cool sleep boss to fight and they blew it. Might as well get rid of the whole status effect with how much potential they fumbled. St. Trina being in the cinematic trailer was so misleading.

[@Rin-st8jk]

great video, its a pity that Sleep, Madness and Deathblight are so underwhelming at pve :(

[@curtisthecactus]

For Real!!

[@RoseyRosin]

Best way of beating ancient dragon senesax is hit him once run let him do a long move and run back took me a while to figure it out but once I did easiest dragon fight 👌🏽

[@robertyobe9624]

The godskins are watching this and just giving up

[@curtisthecactus]

LMFAO

[@kotenks9007]

I Wish that eternal sleep is worth using against bosses but sadly the Demi-human queen and Red Bear (Not the NPC) bosses specifically start off being inflicted with Eternal sleep but end up going to Normal sleep so they'll wake up when provoked, Eternal sleeping mobs don't wake up even if they're hit at all so sad to say that eternal sleep has no main uses against bosses as they don't go to Perma sleep state at all I tried this with a troll and although its not a boss it procs eternal sleep but after a few seconds it goes to normal sleep with no hesitation to it waking up.

[@hygrave2892]

No, but eternal insomnia is quite effective. After it procs, you get to see a world that, in your mind exists quite profoundly. The ten pound bags under the eyes, matches the lethargic walk of the downtrodden. No remedy I am afraid, even a flask of red bull tears only makes you jittery, and sleep pots don't work. But if you take the "S" off of pots, you may just find a special herb of many blends and spices, which will make you feel like a real godskin noble, complete with the massive weight loss and excess skin too! Eternal sleep? Nah, try eternal sobriety. A much different and pretty challenging effort, even St. Trina was on the juice... Her/his own juice, but juice nonetheless.

[@Eldenszay]

Btw eternal sleep last longer and they don’t wake up when you attack them like normal sleep

[@MrMerokii]

Thiolliers needle also gives eternal sleep so you technically could use it as well but it requires you to rush consort 🤣

[@curtisthecactus]

LMFAO that should've been how i started, fist only radahn to get the needle...

[@dingleburrs2714]

its a shame that sleep doesnt work on midra as in lore its implied sleep was made to counter the effects of madness.

[@KodexTheArchivist]

Ah yes. The true villain of the dlc...Skibidi Mater.

[@curtisthecactus]

Skibidi Mater

[@itzfactionyt]

For mats why not spawn them in like you did with pots? Just helps reduce grinding time

[@curtisthecactus]

Once I was in the DLC i wanted to do things legit, i just didn't wanna kill the bosses required for all the golden seeds etc.

[@TFGYouKno]

So eternal sleep doesn't work on any bosses.. which is a shame really but i understand the reasoning. Instead it acts like a super sleep, giving you an extra few seconds of the sleep effect.

[@JamesJackson-y5r]

Eternal Sleep is basically the Godskin skip status

[@amiz1372]

could you test this vs the godskin duo?

[@DemonKingHiei]

What I want to get-Eternal Sleep What I try to get-Sleep What I get-No Sleep

[@FlossyB]

5:15 without context is an incriminating line😭

[@curtisthecactus]

LMFAOO

[@PoyoDesuka]

Eternal Sleep is very good, except on any enemy who isn't vulnerable when falling asleep. ... so, nearly every boss.

[@curtisthecactus]

LMFAO

[@LovelornDreamer]

I wish I was eternally asleep, and I also wish that the velvet sword of saint trina was a light greatsword

[@oaomkjuuj3472]

hes actully pretty goated at elden ring

[@dismalruins2629]

Ngl when I first played the dlc with the unnerfed perfumer bottles I still gave up on sennesax just a stupidly busted ancient dragon

[@DO7_3]

Eternal sleep works on all bosses just gotta hit them hard enough

[@SquishyOfCinder]

If you can sleep a boss you can eternally sleep a boss. The mechanic is just different from enemies to bosses.

[@Rezzhuanne]

12:22 - WOMP WOMP

[@Timmy_toe-toes]

When is the next convergence run