Is Florida State Head Coach Mike Norvell The Long-Term Answer?

[@bobbymiller5742]

Yes he is, absolutely he is the best and right guy for fsu.

[@princepage632]

Yes

[@terrysmith3695]

I'm a Memphis fan and I said our main advantage is our coach (who was Norvells OLine coach and currently HC at memphis) knows how Norvell coaches and his schemes. Norvell hasn't evolved, maybe it would still work in the G5 but not at FSU. Norvell had some teams at Memphis with a great talent pool in Tony Pollard,Antonio Gibson, Darrel Henderson, anthony miller and great QBs. Coaches have to evolve. What works at one school in a lower division will jot work at a premier University like FSU. He was great last year with a solid veteran team and QB in Travis. Since Travis' injury, his coaching has been below mediocre. Because he hasn't evolved or put in a scheme that best fits that QB and team. Adam.Fuller is not a good D Coordinator. His defense at Memphis was atrocious. I pray to God FSU can turn it around this season foe the sake of Memphis

[@philipwilkins3812]

So many people are making assumptions on what’s wrong with the Noles. There’s something certainly broken with this program. The program and not the coach.

[@willymontes6692]

He is the coach ! No question

[@jimmyjam5453]

Its going to take FSU 3 years to recover from this.

[@37gdog]

No one wants to admit that this is carry over from sitting out the bowl game. It created a quitter, selfish culture, they quit on their teammates and the coach allowed it. These weren’t high draft picks that sat out either.

[@charlesplott7758]

Mike could take some heat off himself if he would just do something different. It's been Groundhog Day for all three loses. We definitely need some changes with the staff. Is it time to throw out the head coach....I'm not there yet. But I'm really starting to think the heart and talent of JT and friends may have made Mike look better than he really is. If DJ starts next week, I'm turning off the game. And I'm not a fairweather fan. I've been a sold-out fan since 94.

[@na_k]

Brian, some corrections on the record vs. P5 & ranked teams: 2016-17 - 1-1 vs. P5, 1-2 vs. ranked 2017-18 - 1-1 vs. P5, 2-1 vs. ranked 2018-19 - 0-2 vs. P5, 0-2 vs. ranked 2019-20 - 1-1 vs. P5, 3-1 vs. ranked He did punch far above his weight class, especially at Memphis, which hasn't been good historically. Though Fuente did most of the heavy lifting of the program prior. The interesting thing are the huge swings from year to year, which is similar to his time at FSU.

[@jcorner17]

I thought he would win 10 games or so every now and then, but I never thought he would always have be a national power year in and out. The reason I say this is because he has never coached at a big time program and don't know what big time recruiting looks like. Recruiting has shown that over his tenure.

[@florawind44]

They gave him too much many when Saban retired, they are stuck with him. This could set the program back 5 years like the Florida Gators becuase this season is impacting recruiting wich will make it even harder moving forward to be promininent like FSU of old. Either keep him and settle with being a above average, fringe acc title contender, or pull the plug, eat the cost and try to find the guy that will get it back to FSU being national title contenders.

[@guygrimes6209]

Too big of buyout. Coach N has been good for program. Is there a “play” clause in some of these NIL transfer students contracts? It appears that way or our depth is non existent. If he is forced out I’m thinking Prime is a candidate but I like the Gus bus better. Currently, do we even have a dual threat QB? DJ is probably QB1 but provides no run threat. O line is a mystery. We struggle to block our bread and butter counter trey and our OT’s haven’t figured out the fastest way to the QB for edge rushers is inside. A lot of our sacks are direct paths to QB. Makes absolutely no sense (9th grade mistake and fixable). Toafili (5.5 ypc) and Lucas (6.5 ypc) need more touches. Lucas doing returns? Run more stick, mesh and hitches to make it easier on QB and OL. Our DBs have too many coverage busts. Cal will make us look like Swiss cheese if we don’t fix this. We play SLOW! Slow to adjust slow to react especially at QB, LB and DB. DL is also a mystery. If we have a 4-5 star from UGA getting a huge # of snaps and a 3 star from Colorado State getting much less snaps but they statistically have the same number of tackles how does that work? The bid name experiment has failed and should be OVER! at this point, play your players with best stats and game grades and let’s GO! Coach these guys up and don’t worry about feelings or next year’s transfer portal.

[@ericlofroos2405]

Not yet, but his staff’s seats are burning!

[@jodylane9889]

Plain and simple, FSU needs to go after Lane Kiffin, should have went after him hard after they fired Taggart, he would have everything he needed to keep FSU at an elite level every year, if Florida ends up getting Kiffin and Mario has Miami turned around now, FSU could be in deep trouble because Kiffin with Florida and Miami would kill it on the recruiting trail. FSU job wouldn't be to big for Kiffin like it is Norvell, just think about this, Norvell has started 3 of his 5 seasons with at least 2 straight losses, 1 of the seasons was 4 straight, this year 3 straight so far. Ive said it from the beginning that FSU job is way to big for Norvell

[@LO_Seminoles]

Kiffin has to be close to done at Ole Miss

[@michaelbee2165]

​@LO_Seminoles By done, do you mean ready to leave Ole Miss done? He has a team that is very likely going to contend for the SEC this year. That means the CFP and this team is ranked, I think, #4 on the AP? OM could well contend fir a national title this year. He sure isn't leaving OM mid-season. I think he's got everything he wants at OM. He'd have to plain WANT to go somewhere. I don't think $ alone would pull him away, and I think he'd have more interest in UF than FSU.

[@SportsIconsTV]

No he's not

[@SurferRC]

Its DJ, if the offense can score just 3 TDs a game we would be 3-0! Need to start brock or luke. Period.

[@LO_Seminoles]

The QB change is coming IMO

[@palmbeachcane9523]

@@LO_SeminolesIt’s not all DJU. No offensive line,running backs and receivers that can create separation and catch the ball

[@goodnerarts1206]

Absolutely! Reminds me of Dabo - give him an NFL quarterback, and they are instantly Title contenders. Without a QB, they are lucky to make a bowl game. This is the problem with some of the QB-heavy offenses.

[@palmbeachcane9523]

@@goodnerarts1206 It is the most important player on a team. Unless you have top talent on the line,receivers and running backs a qb can overcome some deficiencies in talent.

[@fjb3544]

Defense is good enough to win. Not great but enough if the offense can stay on the field

[@goatiestgoat12]

MN can not recruit, or develop players, but unfortunately, FSU is stuck with him, AD needs to make him fire most of his staff, Shannon, Atkins,Fuller,all need to go!! Go get Jeremy Pruit, and a good O.C, and damnitt, start paying the recruits, and not the portal, Had they paid, we would have Bolden, Hunter, and several more players, and would be in a good spot!!

[@quincymonroe9778]

If they put solid, verifiable assistant coaches around him, he can lead this program. He has proven that over the last two and a half years. He’s loyal to a fault like Jimbo was. What Nick Saban and other modern coaches lat Ohio State, Texas, and Georgia successful is the fact that they were always looking to improve their staff. Mike has to grow to that level.

[@CanesFan-z6k]

You have the ex head coach for the Canes, the master mind of that Canes dominate defense in the late 90’s and early 2000’s. Randy Shannon was brought in to recruit South Florida, but once you’re a Cane, you are always A Cane. He is looked at like a traitor and a liar, and not a very good person down in South Florida.

[@fjb3544]

Look at Alex Golesh at USF. 14 games a coach and they gouge Alabama for over 200 on the ground. Southern Miss for over 300 on the ground. But we haven’t ran for 300 all season with “better athletes?

[@svdagoat7972]

Doesn’t matter he bought in Pat Surtain Sr that alone should be a South Florida pipeline with what he did at American Heritage but unfortunately it’s not

[@Duchydog]

Brian - forget it his contract is such that he’s not going anywhere unless he decides to leave on his own accord. Just 6 months ago the fans were lighting candles at the Church hoping he stayed. So to answer you he’s the long term answer good, bad or indifferent. Move on!

[@brianjp72]

I think I read his buyout number is 61 million

[@kelseydickey7123]

He'll definitely will be on the hot seat next year

[@svdagoat7972]

Norvell had a one done team 2 losing seasons puts together an undefeated team they leave to the nfl and reality is it’s back to losing, it’s like those college basketball one and done teams, the only thing that can save it is if they can get a win now that Alex Atkins is back from suspension! But in all reality Norvell lucked up in the portal because he can’t recruit for nothing UF and Miami have losing seasons and out recruit an undefeated FSU let that sink in..

[@richardbass3586]

These knee-jerk reaction fans need to calm down. The worst thing to do to a program that got screwed with the snub- is freak out and burn it all down. Coach Norvell has shown us that with hard work, discipline and the right leadership off and on the field- we can make good changes. I do think he needs to hire some recruiters who know what they are doing. Please, please Coach Norvell start Brock or Luke next game. I actually think that if he starts DJ for next game- the fans might burn the Florida capitol down- figuratively, not literally. Go Seminoles!

[@michaelbee2165]

The best recruiters are also excellent coaches. Kids coming out of High School aren't committing to the school. They are committing to that coach because they believe that coach can get them to the NFL. If they believe he can do that then he's a good recruiter. For a lot of kids, it's every bit as important as how far the school is from home, NIL, and path to playing time (and most will never have an NFL career).

[@michaelgraham3153]

You can't bring up the loss against Georgia he didn't have almost all of his starters

[@stormingbacku2670]

Mike’s seat is ice cold. 😂 You guys are dreaming if you think he gets fired any time soon.

[@Chris-rg9iw]

Its hard to pin the blame on any one thing. But these are the big ones. NIL and transfer portal changed the game. Guys are getting paid and seem very uninterested. Kids you recruit leave for a starting spot instead of waiting their turn. Tate is a great example. If you cant have a kid whos been there 4 years ready, thats a problem. And 2, no one mentions this. I live in MI, and have heard it for months. If DJU was worth anything, Jonathan Smith would have brought him to MSU. Smith could have made it a condition. Get DJ what he wants to come. Think about it. Most new coaches would want a qb who knows there system

[@michaelbee2165]

It'll be interesting in a few years to see how programs that rely on the transfer portal stack up vs those that rely more on traditional High School recruiting. Either way, coaching sfaff are going to have to re-recruit their roster to some degree or another every year.

[@danielp.sullivan8417]

Yes. Great man. Great coach. Great Recruiter. Don’t be like those bad fan bases that treat coaches terrible.

[@flch95]

Should have just kept Tate lol. If he could beat UL on the road in 2022, pretty sure he would not be 0-3.

[@adspur]

Three straight home losses.This doesn’t bode well for the rest of the season

[@michaelsin1968]

Yes. Needs better recruiters and assistant coaches

[@johnny5735]

Recruiting comes from the top, and dont think Mike cares for recruiting that much, so neither do his assistants

[@adam-thesportsguy6147]

Can’t afford to fire him…so it doesn’t matter. Fact is he’s well on the way to 3 losing seasons in 5 years…that should tell you all you need to know!

[@MichaelMadden-g8q]

At the rate FSU is loosing games the will loose millions of fans and eyeballs making them less desirable to the BIG or SEC!!!

[@ronaldburkins-lv6xk]

The SEC or Big 10 might still want them as an easy win for the top teams. They would be like Vandy or Mississippi State in the SEC or Indiana or Rutgers in the Big 10 so don’t count them out yet😂😂

[@FLbowtieguy]

Hes not the kong term answer...he has ro fire sone coaches and hire a big name OC... problem is who wants to coach at FSU rn.. nobody

[@na_k]

I think the problem is the type of pro style QB they signed. Brady White wasn't mobile, but he was really accurate, fairly quick delivery, and had a good IQ as far as not turning the ball over and making poor throws. DJU doesn't have those intangibles. I just don't understand why they settled. Missing on Ward, there were still better options than DJU. McCord, or even a Maalik Murphy, who transferred to Duke would be much better. I was convinced Mike couldn't lead FSU to a natty. Last season changed that, assuming he'd improve the staff & recruiting. But I just don't think he's that guy, he's too loyal to staff. Most of his coaches at Memphis got hired away, so he was forced to replace them. Well, no one wants his FSU coaches, so I can't see him making a change unless he's forced by the AD. The fact that no one is trying to hire away his staff should be telling to him that they aren't good.

[@tommywatterson5276]

FSU...you spent Ft Knox to buyout Jimbo Fisher. Can you fire Norvell and buy him out so soon after Fisher ?? Last year Norvell and the Knolls were upset they weren't selected in the championship playoffs after winning everything and the ACC title too. There's something else going on, fix it, and buying out any coach there right now isn't an option.

[@signalmanfive2127]

Ok, we gave DJ 3 tries and it hasn't worked. Time to move on.

[@Theprccollector]

Is he sitting inside an Oakley store?

[@torrencesmith1725]

You ppl are delusional thinking we were bk when clearly we aren't . Now it's going to talk another decade to become relevant bcuz we're loosing recruits as we speak not because of the coaching alone but because of the product on the field

[@na_k]

Agree. Everyone was saying "we're back, we're back", I was like pump the breaks. Until the recruiting is consistently top 10 at minimum, FSU is winning multiple ACC titles, and regularly in the CFP, FSU is not back, just present.

[@gmm06f]

@@na_kwhat an easy thing to say a 0-3

[@goatiestgoat12]

even with an elite recruiter. FSU aint gettin shit until they are in Sec, Or Big

[@Gemini-0524]

With the way he’s recruiting and not developing the players he do recruit. I’m gonna say no he is not the coach to lead us you can’t depend on the transfer portal every year

[@fjb3544]

Has to recruit better

[@palmbeachcane9523]

You can’t afford to fire Norvell and you can’t afford to keep him. He can’t recruit & can only get portal leftovers. 13-1 & you can’t recruit? Get ready for a couple of wins this season and not enough wins for a bowl this season and a couple of seasons after that. Every position is bad except punter & kicker. I called the losses to Georgia Tech and BC. Look at his history 3-6,5-7 & on the hot seat. Built a portal team before everyone used it & won 10 but lost against every ranked team. No one left & went 13-1 last year and didn’t play backup players to build for the future. Got a $10 million a year contract with most coaches getting big raises and long contracts. Another bad coaching hire & stuck with all of them for 8 years.

[@edl7454]

When you win 3 in a row over us then you can talk. Your clown coach had exactly one last transfer portal player then FSU has had.

[@palmbeachcane9523]

@@edl7454 You are not going to a bowl for years. Ward is the Hiesman favorite and DJU is the worst qb in football. FS💩 is the only P4 team without a WIN 😂😂😂😂. Cal is going to win this week and Norvells will still make $10 million a year 💩💩. Miami will win against FS💩 for years to come and it will be worse than 52-10 probably 63-3 😂😂😂😂💩

[@palmbeachcane9523]

@@edl7454 You can’t even win 1 game?💩💩💩💩💩

[@caleb7137]

Dude, I get it. It’s ugly. But it’s 3 games

[@victorwilson8563]

I think what bothers me the most and I’m a lifelong FSU fan is all the hype that was around this team..Media saying FSU was going to be very good..Hearing that Norvel said this is the most talented team.. The climb series on how hard they work and hyping them up even more and this is the team we are supposed to support? Yes I am a true fan, but there isn’t any heart or will to win from these players..It would be different if they played with passion but man they are dry and dead out there….They are confused and half- hearted in most of the plays..One both sides of the ball..Ryan Fitzgerald is the only one that is consistent and getting after it and He is the kicker..Wtf! I mean I’m glad I bought no tickets this year because this is hard to watch!

[@Bless863]

Has to learn how to recruit and stop relying on one year rentals.

[@Vashaun11]

Patrick Surtain is the only coach I can say should stay. Everybody else I don't know, I think it's a mix of the coaches and the players just not giving it, they set guys up but players just can't get it together. Maybe mike is too soft on players and coaches? idk

[@torrencesmith1725]

You ppl always want to blame the coaches for players not being discipline, mentally weak, physically soft, and not doing their assignments . What are you watching? The players play! He has righted the ship the past 3years. Now all of a sudden he can't coach? Please

[@na_k]

So he bears no responsibility for signing DJU over better options? Who evaluates and signs the talent? The players don't sign themselves. 2023 was a special year, but it was also a bit of fools gold. They maxed out on the portal and got a bit lucky, but relying on that every season and not addressing HS recruiting is risky.

[@michaelbee2165]

​@@na_kYeah, Norvell did really well in the portal it seems, until now. You can evaluate the tools and the physical measurables and player rankings against your needs. But evaluating character is a whole different animal. I think that's more so the case with the portal than HS recruiting. My own opinion is that relying predominantly on the latter will more often result in a stronger lockerroom and winning culture (and winning seasons) in the long run.

[@tommygunzz8117]

I remember when he took over the Memphis H.C. job just because that's when VT poached Justin Fuente away from there.

[@MichaelMadden-g8q]

Sorry but after 4-5 years this roster is all Norvells and his coaching, or lack of as you could say!!!

[@RyanSmith-fb8rf]

Yes absolutely keep him for another 10 years 🙌

[@jaqondnorris8889]

I don't think so I think he's loyal to a fault and that's his problem he's also stubborn when it comes to his play calling no matter how many times we've seen counter isn't gonna work he continues to run it

[@christopherroberts8530]

These are the coaches you can hire that FSU should have hired when they hired Norvell. Deion, Urban Meyer, and Jimbo got FSU a title Fisher. Oh and I also forgot, you can put the whole NCAA on notice and call my Coach, The Hoodie, Bill Belichick. Now Bill won't accept but just to have the media circulating his name with us would put fear in all of college football.

[@TurboNFRStwoK]

I’m not sure how good of a coach Deion is, as a coach he gives me Willie Taggert vibes. Great with the media, able to create massive hype around the program, talks a big game, had big time success at smaller programs, but then the results on the field once in the power 5 (now power 4) dont back up all the talk. That said, Deion with the FSU brand at the very least would be a recruiting powerhouse. If it turns out he really can’t coach at the P4 he could easily surround himself with good enough coordinators to get the job done, I just don’t know if he would actually do that.

[@LO_Seminoles]

@TurboNFRStwoK - Deion can't even do clock management right. He's not the guy.

[@MichaelMadden-g8q]

Sorry butDion is a great recruiter but a lousy coach!

[@christopherroberts8530]

@@TurboNFRStwoK you gotta understand Deion is coaching Colorado. Ain't no talent in Colorado. Bring him home and now we got something. Look at the big schools surrounding the state---Georgia, Alabama, Clemson. Their roster is predominantly Florida. What made Bobby, Bo Shem, Jimmy Johnson, Steve Spurrier, and Jimbo so great? They could recruit in house. You're telling me those kids want to leave home? Look at what Mario Cristobal has done in recruiting the state even with the trash seasons and in-game decisions he made. And your telling me smooth talking cowboy hat walking Neon Deion can't do the same?

[@christopherroberts8530]

@@LO_Seminoles you understand Deion is coaching Colorado. Ain't no talent in Colorado!!!!! Bring him home and now we got something. Look at the big schools surrounding the state---Georgia, Alabama, Clemson. Their roster is predominantly Florida. What made Bobby, Bo Schem, Jimmy Johnson, Steve Spurrier, and Jimbo so great? They could recruit in house. It is clear Norvell can't recruit period let alone in house. Look at what Mario Cristobal has done in recruiting the state even with the trash seasons and in-game decisions he's made. And you're telling me smooth talking cowboy hat wearing Neon Deion won't be able to land these guys? This is where yall lose me. Yall cosign on an unproven guy in Norvell but won't sign off on guys like Deion, Urban, and Jimbo. Never forget Deion smooth talked FSU out of Travis Hunter.

[@tb6133]

0-3, but they thought they should be in a better conference to get more revenue. Mountain West wouldnt even take them right now.

[@907hurricanes]

Give norvell a lifetime contract please! He's great for miami recruiting!

[@gmm06f]

Image typing this

[@AndrewMcNutt]

Too bad he won’t be able to attend Nick Saban’s Coaching Rehab Program to revive his career after he gets fired 😂

[@1_Lost_Soul]

12 - 0 to 0 - 12? 🤔

[@prmath]

Are the coaches responsible for the “athletic ability” of their players ❓Coaches can only work with what they have on the their teams. Would a college coach be held responsible for his team being beaten by a top tier NCAA team……. NO ! Of course not. Just COOL IT….. 🤷🤷🏿🤷🏻It’s just a game

[@michaelbee2165]

Uh, well, yes they ARE responsible for the athletic ability of their players. The coaching staff selected and signed those players. What do you mean they can only work with what they have on their team? Do you know what recruiting is? The transfer portal?

[@ShawnPaul-gy7mc]

No he’s not our guy. Go get a proven winner from a P4 next time.

[@EricSchumann007]

Be carful what you shush for it’s 3 games

[@dpresxo]

jimbo fisher.

[@chengyuguo]

Bama got good coach from Washington

[@fjb3544]

Time will tell. Haven’t played anyone

[@CamWard4Heisman]

Too late

[@dannyvalles6624]

Mike needs to make changes at the coaching position simple

[@timkinley1779]

Sounds easy when you put it like that. But you have to convince top-tier coaches to come to FSU. Just because you love the school, doesn't mean you're entitled to the best coaches. They make decisions based on what's best for them, not on what's best for you.

[@LO_Seminoles]

Firing is easy. Now, who's Norvell going to hire?

[@LO_Seminoles]

@timkinley - Elite Post!

[@KerryCarson-r3n]

If the answer is to lose and suck at football, then yes, he is

[@LO_Seminoles]

Wow

[@richardchestnut2075]

They lose 3 straight doing the same thing every game ,without changing the Noles will lose every game

[@grimygrime]

I honestly never thought Norvell was the guy to bring us back to national prominence. However I did think that he would keep us competitive but unfortunately that wasn’t the case.

[@LO_Seminoles]

After 13-0, it's hard to argue with your point

[@FSU.Rob.1999]

It scares me how god awful Brock is … or has been practicing for them to not even give the kid a shot

[@elamar7773]

Look no further than the offensive line

[@idigbebop]

We need player IQ tests. We have got to be smarter.

[@chengyuguo]

CMN is not QB coach and he found a very junior no experience Tony as QB coach

[@LO_Seminoles]

Norvell has coached QBS for Arizona State (2012-2015).

[@FLbowtieguy]

​@@LO_Seminoleshe obviously can't recruit or develop QBs if we don't have one QB that's any good.... JT was superstar

[@palmbeachcane9523]

@@FLbowtieguyI thought Norvell was a qb guru and DJU was going to be better than Travis.

[@joejackson9295]

Hakeem Williams was talking shyt about playing for Miami and no offense.. I've had the popcorn out for a few years watching them all fall... Clemson Florida Florida St.

[@ronaldburkins-lv6xk]

Clemson hasn’t fallen. We’re playing Miami or Syracuse for the ACC championship.

[@IRatherbeTrashthanADemocrat]

Overreaction at this point, but no. Though he did have to come in and clean up Fishers and Taggart's messes and it was a mess. And it takes years to establish a recruiting pipeline, not just 1 or two years and it takes just as long if not longer for players to pan out. He did well in the portal which probably saved his job. Nothing from this team shows me they're going to turn it around this year at all, just like nothing I saw in DJU said he was going to be good for FSU ( though it definitely is not all his fault there this bad). Norvell will have to come back super strong next year or it might be a wrap for him.

[@LO_Seminoles]

Do you feel Norvell turns it around?

[@FLbowtieguy]

In year 5 he's starting over... No way I can defend that...he's not a good coach he's not a good recruiter...if we we're as good as people say last year we would of whooped every one .too many close games last year with the talent we had...

[@palmbeachcane9523]

@@LO_SeminolesNorvell is running to the bank. He cannot turn this around for years. What is his history makes anyone think he can turn this around?

[@wminer6567]

His record against top 25 teams at Memphis ,,,,,, no Power 5 schools would play them ,,,, they always want the Tigers to play at their place ,, karma is a &%#@!

[@dewaynehutchins1194]

How did fsu go 13 0 now o 3 don't understand it dj is not a fast qb he is slow the online is trash can't open up no holes to run the ball can't block why in pass protection this hole staff trash not developing receivers rbs tight ends lb deline dt s weak every where it's starts with the hc fuller trash to players not in position to make plays this is a bad staff not just dj the problem how ever plays qb is in trouble to many negative plays on first and 2 3 and 10 every drive this is bad playcalling to

[@Theprccollector]

Question how many points you think Miami is gonna hang on you guys? Lmaoooo GO CANES!

[@beebs6456]

to answer the question, no🤣

[@Arab2020]

Im glad you are having this discussion, because alot of programs wont talk about because they live though rose colored glasses, but Norvell problem is he cant recruit, he didnt want Travis, but he cant win without him, you bring in DJ and look be a coach and bench him, but you wont, he wont get us a NC cause he cant recruit

[@Arab2020]

He had a shot at a NC last year and it was took from him, ill give him that but i don't think he will have us in contention every year

[@chengyuguo]

Dj = James Blackmani

[@na_k]

Sorry, DJU is worse. James was a competitor, tough and had heart, if not the physical tools.

[@chengyuguo]

Michigan State did good job

[@BThompson850]

I truly believed that Mike would keep us competitive throughout his tenure at FSU. After last season, my perspective shifted to maybe be a national championship head coach. But now, my mind is going through different directions. How can a program look this bad in year five? Did Jordan Travis really cover up this many issues? Why select DJU when the offense needs a mobile QB? And I have soooo many others.. I’m sorry for the long post, just frustrated.

[@nCARNICK1951]

Wow! All the "Is Norvell the guy" talk!! Really? Last season was pretty good!! Nobody talking that then!! Most programs would KILL for a season like that. 13-0 - Coach of the Year!! ACC champs! Not helping by being a hater after an awful start. There are many programs that would love to have Norvell as their coach!!

[@alvinjones4352]

Dan Mullen

[@jawayne224]

if anyone looked at his career at Memphis it was ebbs and flows with him. win 8 then 10 then win 8 then 12. it wasn't a constant flow. thinking about Urban he was 17-6 at Bowling Green and i believe 22- at Utah so he had a history of upward trajectory. I never thought he could be the man here. i thought he was our Mark Richt

[@chengyuguo]

Dj = James blackman

[@johnshields8992]

HOW BOUT THOSE 0-3 STINKYNOLES. GO CANES!!!

[@thejokesterdad2707]

I like norvell but if he's gonna stay he's got put the right people around him 1000 percent and if there was ever a time you wanted deion his kids be gone to nfl problem is huge ass buyout

[@charlzd1546]

As a Miami fan, I tried to have a factual conversation with some Noles fans about Norvell and his reliance on the transfer portal. If you don't undergird your roster with great recruits, the portal is only a temporary fix. None of those fans wanted to listen to me. It has nothing to do with fandom and everything to do with knowledge of the game. You must RECRUIT! Deion will find out the same thing at Colorado,

[@flch95]

Th misconception is that this staff chooses not to recruit HS at a high level and prefers TP. The fact is the staff CANNOT recruit HS, they just can’t, so success in the portal is by necessity not preference. If this staff, and most staffs for that matter, had a choice they choose HS over portal every time all day every day twice on Sundays.

[@edl7454]

Miami has had one less transfer portal player signed than FSU.

[@workforcefreebee4406]

@@edl7454 our evals are significantly better and most have worked out. i will just leave it at that. the Loafer man is great at evaluating talent

[@workforcefreebee4406]

GO CANES! this^ 1000%

[@charlzd1546]

@@edl7454 do you mean this year or for the duration of Norvell's tenure? My point is to look at the final rankings of the last 3 classes of FSU and Miami.

[@alanrobinson9021]

That lawsuit against ACC looking pretty thin at this point

[@SurferRC]

Why? Still bring in the most views even when winless 🤦🏼‍♂️😂🤡

[@LO_Seminoles]

I was thinking about that

[@ThomasMilton-gn1bf]

We don't play like other schools if he doesn't fix this we won't show up for games business around the campus will go down it's a extremely big thing in Tallahassee Go Noles for life

[@joejackson9295]

Norvell was following the portal King.......Manny Diaz..😂😂😂

[@darondawson6566]

stands will be empty and merchandise sales will be atrocious as well

[@LO_Seminoles]

I hadn't thought about that. You're right though

[@DanielMartin-gv5uc]

There were upper deck empty sections at LSU-SC. Gaming industry laying off. 0-3 doesn't help.😢

[@michaelbee2165]

​@@DanielMartin-gv5uc I'm having trouble seeing how FSU's 0-3 start has anything to do with attendance at LSU-SC or gaming industry layoffs. FSU is a major brand. No doubt about it. But not THAT major. 😂

[@allensaunders449]

I worry about the future. Last season it seemed like Florida state was Florida's best program. All of a sudden not so sure. Miami is killing it, even Florida has better young talent especially at QB. I don't like the makeup of Florida states roster and recruiting going forward

[@LO_Seminoles]

Recruiting....that's going to be discussed in the live show at 4 pm EST

[@timkinley1779]

So you can't build a team around the portal? Starting to see the light for giving scholarships that have not much interest in the actual program. They don't have any pride in the jersey, just the check.

[@jcorner17]

I thought he would win 10 games or so every now and then, but I never thought he would always have be a national power year in and out. The reason I say this is because he has never coached at a big time program and don't know what big time recruiting looks like. Recruiting has shown that over his tenure.