Is For The Stars A Real Competitor To Star Citizen?

[@PatrickFisker]

Is For The Stars A Real Competitor To Star Citizen? LMAO - Not at all. Far from

[@brussy1]

Right? Snail games. It's going to be closer to their other games like ark, dark & light, the pirate one...

[@adonis1273]

@@brussy1If SC is known to be buggy i don't want to know how bad for the stars will be like, i'm feeling like it's going to turn out like Ark but set in space.

[@CmdrMoros]

@@adonis1273 Yeah ARK new/old still buggy as shit.

[@solomonmitchell6048]

It looks more like a competitor to Starbourne 2 or star atlas. Even with all the bugs, star citizen is on a different level

[@marcuswynn89]

its gonna be galaxy wide with billions of stars, star citizen will only have like 5. terraforming hybrid voxel tech, building custom ships while being an mmo rpg this game has the potential to surpass what CIG is doing

[@DaynoG33k]

@@marcuswynn89 Remember this comment, quality over quanity. Star Citizen has a set lore for 100 systems and it will be an ever developing game. Star Citizen, even in its buggy alpha, has no real competition. This game is made in UE5, limited to 32bit floating point system. SC's engine is made in 64bit and is the only one so far. Generic UE5 space game, nothing more. Snail Games has a worse reputation then CiG. No shit this will flop.

[@Aszourus]

@@marcuswynn89 no it does not and if you think so you clearly know nothing about what star citizen is doing. the star engine they had to develop for star citizen has technology that did not even exist just to make the things they are doing possible

[@Cramblit]

Lot of cope here. CIG funding is going downwards. That means the game could end development in a year or two if things don't even out. This means the game could never come out.

[@IllusiveSpartan]

@@Cramblit Trending downwards from pandemic levels when everyone was spend more money online yet its still more funding than the first eight years of development.

[@heru_ur6017]

Snail Games USA , hard pass. Whenever Tencent is involved it never gets finished and dumped.

[@whatever833]

As soon as I saw the snail logo I stopped the video

[@bloop140]

Um...baldurs gate 3.

[@jeremyhenry3126]

Star Citizen competitor? Not even in the same league. Starfield thought the same thing. Look at them.

[@Warsheep2k6]

Even if it is , good i like my spacesims

[@namaikikitsune]

Did Bugthesda ever claim they were making an SC competitor? Serious question because I can't remember anyone making that comparison but people online. Starfield is just like FO or ES in space, so it's a space adventure which it does better than SC and it's closest competitor the Outer Worlds but that's it.

[@jeremyhenry3126]

@namaikikitsune Claim. No claim. Didn't matter. Facts are facts. It's not a competitor.

[@jeremyhenry3126]

@Warsheep2k6 More are never bad.

[@whatever833]

I'll be honest it wouldn't matter if this game looked halfway decent or not The snail games is involved so automatic no

[@Nope-55]

Snails game is a shit company they take your money and run. They never finish a game like dark and light and server locked ark survival and it’s owned by a Chinese company.

[@boabplz4107]

It's the developers of Ark, who list Ark as a MMO - there is no mention of player count on any of the press materials I've been able to find. The video on their corporate site also says "Some" planets will be terra-formable, and dig-out-able - some is a number greater than 1 so we'll need to see where that actually lands. The world assets look straight out of Ark, it looks to be in UE5, sure you could frame that as pre-alpha but Snail games is also not known for thier follow through. Add to this that the SEC told them in June they have till the end of the year to get their share price over a dollar or they are getting kicked off the NASDAQ, and oh look this gets announced in August. This isn't going to be remotely close to SC, it's more likely to be an Empyrion clone if it ever does come out. I also can't find any mention of the "Billions of stars" you are saying in your responses the game is going to have - based on everything actually in their releases it could have 1 star and 5 planets and that's it. It's an untrustworthy dev (Look into the BS around Ark 2, and the pivot to Ark: SA) in trouble, yet again chasing trends. Save your money and your hype, stay away. (And if you really want to play something like this that's out now, look into Empyrion - Galactic Survival out now on steam.)

[@Dominus-Noctis]

Star Citizen is THE space game.

[@clovernacknime6984]

Star Citizen is THE whaling simulator from the whale's perspective.

[@Dominus-Noctis]

@clovernacknime6984 *Whale Sounds*

[@quellor202]

This is more like Bathesda's Starfield. Smaller in scope then Star Citizen. I bet it will be out before Star Citizen too.

[@marcuswynn89]

This game will be bigger in scale than starfield

[@theinformedocelot]

@@marcuswynn89 HUFF HUFF HUFF HUFF HUFF HUFF HUFF HUFF

[@whatasaverl6456]

That UI is pretty much a complete ripp from SC along the the avenger titan schematic they showed 😂

[@theinformedocelot]

look at all the angry incels screeching its going to kill SC xD its like people cant seem to comprehend that building your own engine AND server meshing tech takes more development time than ubisoft shitting out a franchise title on a dated engine.

[@doodle548]

One of the main reasons sc's ships are so amazing is that they hire actual industrial designers (instead of just concept artists and game designers), this leads to a product that looks more believable, they are made using real design principles, and rules!

[@Astelch]

thats about the only thing sc does well. Its not the gameplay/bugs/etc. Its all in the ships that give the player a real feel to them. We may have the same bugs for half a decade but one thing we can say is that sc ships quality have gotten way better since last year

[@heru_ur6017]

LoL, No

[@jebidyah]

Really?! Is that why 95% of the ships are useless, half baked and make zero sense for the actual game….wouldn’t hurt for them to let someone who understands it’s a game to join a meeting once in awhile…

[@the_babbleboom]

i can't tell if this is well deserved mockery of CIG or if you actually are so dumb to believe what you said.

[@ephalanx1]

Probably not entirely the case. A large reason is, it is a focus of theirs to ensure that it is done like actual manufactures. Also they established a standard long ago by hiring movie level talent to concept their spaceships. You dont need to have actual industrial designers to create well designed theoretical ships, but you do need a good base level understanding of basic engineering. That said, some of these artists do have backgrounds in some of that, and do research to align with real world concepting techniques.

[@bnotapplicable7000]

I guess I'm a bit like others opinion wise. SC is special to me because it isn't just animations. Their ship systems for example are REAL simulations. So you electrical really does have simulated power running through the cables, your hydrolics have REAL hydrolic fluid and venting. When these things get damaged, it isn't pixels of animation, it's the real deal, you losse power because of electrical leaks, you lose functionality because you fluid really is venting. That's amazing to me and part of what makes it special. But that said I was one of the first backers of Empyrion Global Survival. I still love that game and still play it! They all have their place

[@4hire565]

On the whole deeper mysteries on SC, There was a giant idea thread on Spectrum about it. Even CR jumped in once to comment, they are working on the bones, muscles and flesh of the game. Bet my ass they got stuff planned

[@ephalanx1]

Of course they do. A lot of the alien content is locked behind SQ 42. Vanduul, Xian, etc. They dont want to spoil those mysteries. SC already has a vast library of alien histories, lore, etc. These other games are not going to have 13 years of lore build out over time. They wouldnt have had whole alien languages developed if their histories were not being considered. People are really underestimating the time SC has had to flesh out their lore. Thats going to be replicated in 2-3 years.

[@soliitudegaming7275]

How is this even the same genre? its not. Its just ARK in space.

[@whatever833]

And will be just as buggy and just as unfinished with even more paid content

[@_FutureFocus]

These developers are missing what makes SC what SC is. That goes for a lot of people who don’t like it for its bugs and long development time etc. SC has that magic sauce! Whether you like SC or not you can’t argue what its doing for “indie” game development and the space genre specifically. It isn’t any one thing, the sauce is the sauce. I would love for another company to begin development of a game in any genre that has THAT special sauce, but sadly they only come around once every few decades or so. This just isn’t it.

[@marcuswynn89]

CIG has lost the sauce

[@whatever833]

These developers work for a company that is known to do literally anything to grab dollars they are struggling with money and they're just launching another game because the SEC told them they have to the end of the year to get their share priced over a dollar or they get kicked off the NASDAQ.

[@myrchantkobold8268]

Ok, so "For the Stars"is nothing like star citizen in scope. You can have a party and as they specify "Choose to enter contested regions to fight other players for control of the galaxy". The game is Wow in space, which can be good don't get me wrong. Procedural planets with POI meshed in is great, star citizen is doing something like that too but in a different way. SC wants to make it so when it rains.. it turns dirt to mud and low areas to puddles.. That is nothing like any other game would ever attempt. That is why I support the insane project that is SC. This is also why no project will come close, they can copy it but only on a surface level.

[@marcuswynn89]

Bro you can terraform planets in for the stars and you want to talk about rain puddles 😂

[@Aszourus]

@@marcuswynn89 bro if you make a planet that looks like lego but you can terraform it doesn't make it more impressive than a planet that literally looks and fucntions like a real 1. your argument makes no sense

[@ephalanx1]

@@marcuswynn89 Lets see how that turns out first. There was little detail as to how that will work, let alone how that will look or play. The game will have trade offs. There is no replacement for SC's 13 years of dev work in a shorter time frame from a smaller studio. Looks like it has some promise, but I don't see it catching SC in terms of fidelity or depth. Scale yes. But Elite, NMS, and Starfield do that already, yet none have come close to knocking SC off the pedestal, let alone establish themselves as true competitors. SC just has a massive head start. If SC fails it will be due to SC.

[@DJLKM1]

Publisher Snail Games, Say no more, steering well clear.

[@NozomuYume]

"Iron from a volcanic region is going to have more heat resistance than iron from a jungle." -- Uh. What? Is it a different isotope of iron or something? If it has a substantially different heat resistance then it's not iron.

[@demonicsquid7217]

Sci-fi Iron. Plot device iron. Iron for plot armour? Iron for clothes irons! Underwear and sock crafting confirmed.

[@ronnieo9571]

Here is something I learned from the film industry. Usually, with films, when they are good, they show you nothing until the trailer. They know they have something amazing so they just drip tiny trailers out, and buzz builds from word of mouth about these tiny 30 second or one minute trailers and then they drop the film on the buzz and boom --- usually -- a winner -- amazing. And they drop it on a Wednesday before the weekend to let the buzz build - maybe a week before a major holiday - and then lines develop when the holiday weekend arrives - all on word of mouth. They make a ton of money that goes on for a year. But if they dropped a ton of money into a bomb they know they have one weekend and then its over as word of mouth will kill the film. So before it drops they do everything they can with little infomercials about the making of the film, little documentaries, trying out of desperation to pump up a big weekend. They tell you everything they can. And then the bomb drops 2 days and box office drops through the floor. Done over. Game companies should learn from this. Sometimes they should just keep their mouths shut. CIG too can learn from this. They tell me too much.

[@ephalanx1]

CIG has a completely different funding model. They cannot do that. It was billed and funded as an open developed project. For every statement like yours there is an opposite that expects them to show everything. Cant have it both ways. Also this game while it will have a lot of things, it will not replace 13 years of SC development in a shorter amount of time. You will have massive trade offs. Whether that be scope, scale, fidelity, quality, concurrency, etc. Nothing comes for free in the game industry.

[@ronnieo9571]

@@ephalanx1 Yeah free has nothing to do with my point. The funding model has nothing to do with my point. Further I never said anything about this game replacing SC. My point is that sometimes new projects like this...say too much, and SC has been doing the same in my opinion. Some things don't need hyping if the thing itself speaks for itself. Re for every opinion like mine.... I don't think you understood my point at all. But yeah, there are many opinions out there. One more time, when something is really good, it is not in need of any hyping at all.

[@ephalanx1]

​@@ronnieo9571 I see, your response was about this games 'hype' and not SC. My bad. I misunderstood.

[@Craggon]

This looks like it could be a fun Space ARK, but it doesn't look like it'll be anything at all like SC which is great. We need variety not one-upmanship. Also at 9:11 that's 100% an AI generated ship. I've seen enough AI generated ships and there's no way that's not one of them.

[@metamorph8343]

I was gonna say, its 100% AI generated, I've been playing star citizen for years and while some of the hate is understandable overall its an extremely impressive game which is no way a scam. I paid 45 dollars years ago and have had over 1000 hours of fun, doesnt seem like a scam to me.

[@Maxxmentum]

SC started doing the space wrecks to explore, then basically stopped. Pyro was supposed to have more of that, but I wonder if that is the direction anymore.

[@ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue]

Xbox Series S - That answers your title question.

[@canop1601]

Was talking to the community manager. Said to look out for 002 in about 3 months

[@marcuswynn89]

I’ll be on the lookout for sure

[@lukri4209]

Definitely too early to say. It's easy to say you'll do things at a similar or more extensive scale than Star Citizen, but we've seen how long it took CIG and how much they've had to physically grow as a company to get to where they are now. Seriously, even if you argue CIG's inefficiency as a reason why they've taken so long and why this studio might do better, by doing so, you're assuming these people are also immune to incompetency, whether it be to bad decisions or feature creep. They will probably release a significantly boiled-down version of their ambitions for launch, then release updates with this functionality later on, which may or may not be a better development cycle relative to Star Citizen. Regardless, I don't think they'll ever surpass the depth of gameplay Star Citizen is striving for, even if they have more of anything on paper.

[@ephalanx1]

Yep. What people will come to understand is there are no short cuts. 13 years of SC development will not be superseded in a shorter time frame. There will be massive trade offs with many of these competitors. Which is fine, but expectations must be tempered.

[@akastrak2235]

the question is : is there any loading screens between all we've seen in this vid ?

[@Bland-79]

Star Citizen will be the long delayed partially built version of what we all dream of and will be the only one to get as far as they will until AI can do the work without huge amounts of money and time and bureaucracy that comes with the crowd funding model that made Star Citizen possible to the extant it is. This will not make it out of the beginning stages or will never be anything close to the dream of Star Citizen.

[@Akram_Alkhateeb]

more like no man's sky competitor rather than Star Citizen

[@marcuswynn89]

Nah this will rival star citizen

[@Akram_Alkhateeb]

@marcuswynn89 even their pitch and demo is completely different to star citizen initial kickstarter. It looks more like no man's sky in the sense of different alien species, emphasis on resources, base building, ships ...etc. Star Citizen has a completely different orientation. It's not heavy on 1 aspect alone but incorporates everything in. For example, multi crew ships and gameplay were initial goal, aliens species were set from the start (vaduul and Banu - they even have complete lure and language). The scope of star citizen is bigger with a near realism approach. But let's see how it will pan out. Maybe it will turn out cooler than we expected

[@Aszourus]

@@marcuswynn89 it's not

[@ephalanx1]

@@marcuswynn89 Come on bro, cap. What is this some edge take? You know good and well that is not rivaling SC. And if someone says this down the road, they will be gaslighting. Smaller company with less dev time on the books.. and that's going to jump in front of SC? Are you being paid?

[@COMMANDERHAWK22]

shes not for the streets shes for the stars !!!!!

[@andrewdavies3584]

Yeah.... no way. 😂

[@vik12D]

Star Citizen NEEDS competition. We'll see if CIG can produce a profuct of if it was vaporware all along...and the lawsuits to follow. I want Star Citizen, but I want a working game more and this delay delay for ships sales needs to end.

[@Billy-bc8pk]

Competition can only exist if they put in the time; CIG spent eight years R&D'ing groundbreaking tech. No other AAA publisher is going to do that. That means they either have to wait for a middleware company to do it (and Epic really has no reason to since they're making billions from Fortnite and every body licencing their engine already), or licence the tech from CIG.

[@StarCitizen23]

Star Citizen has the potential to be regarded as one of the greatest space games of all time. However, it is important to note that the game is still in its alpha phase, with much of its content and features yet to be fully realized.

[@theforgottenguise7971]

not even close

[@MooneShadow]

Looks interesting but the scale doesn't seem to compare to Star Citizen yet. But it does look pretty good.

[@Void_Tiger_]

A single-player game is NEVER a competitor for a multiplayer game. While this game looks interesting, I'll always prefer a game I can enjoy with others.

[@M3SA-gaming]

SpaceCraft is another interesting one to react to. This one looks neat too.

[@marcuswynn89]

Link it brother

[@DarkWolfStar]

looks like a Atlas in space kinda vibe idk if i like it tbh

[@canop1601]

and i agree game devs should look at other games and take what works and trash whats not working. idc if im playing a COD clone if the clone is better then COD thats the important part even if the clone adds only 1 thing that makes it better

[@BoDandy]

No game that uses default engine character animations is going to compete.

[@Alias_Reign]

The game look very arcady to me, the only thing that really matters in a space game in my opinion is the flight model. I need to see what the flight model is like. Can I use a two stick setup or is this a gamepad type game? Looks more gamepad to me.

[@maxjergens]

I see woke women and that could be really really really really bad. Is this a better Stars End?

[@marcuswynn89]

CIG literally has a male dev with a fruit pebbles patch on, whats more woke than that?

[@maxjergens]

@@marcuswynn89 That why all the women look like gay lady boys. I am one that would rather keep real world politics out of games as they are an escape for most all that play them.

[@Senkuda]

It's a competitor to NMS.

[@jhonsmiththe6th]

Look at there logo were do u think they got that from Gaijin War Thunder i bet that's there mascot (logo) the snail like they could not think of any thing else by side a snail

[@nickstinger4709]

Voxel games trend to become untenably data heavy. Many have failed. It's hard to put much faith in this.

[@PlayForTheStars]

Looking forward to showing off more soon!

[@marcuswynn89]

We the players delegation appreciate you!

[@heru_ur6017]

Tencent

[@Chooie6]

Perhaps better than starfield or the kinds of early access games you might find on steam but Star citizen is a different animal. Potential hopes and dreams a good team those are important yes but it doesn't look like anything groundbreaking and new looks like trying to win off some Star Citizen frustration which i get there's plenty of that I'm there too. Being on all platforms is a limitation and one that i think will mean no joysticks only game pads. If you like it cool but eventually you'll be back in Star Citizen.

[@errgoth]

Actually, Star Citizen has obviously aliens and those have religions as seen in the trailers, thus alien places and history will be all over. But none of it is in the the game atm. I don't think we will see anything before the release of SQ42.

[@marcuswynn89]

The old SQ42 gatekeeper cope

[@errgoth]

@@marcuswynn89 it's what it is. It's what they showed. Sadly can't help you with your phobia

[@OrishiBlackMoses]

Guessing this title was to get clicks to your video, well it worked clicks and comments. I will give you this game. This game does have some things that SC doesn't have as of yet.

[@ephalanx1]

We need to calm down with the J Pritchard stuff. I mean he is not the only person to develop flight models. It's taken on a whole new level of over praising without even knowing the full story behind the scenes. Same thing with Todd Papy. I mean, people act like they were on the dev staff, etc. The old flight model was unchained and was going to eventually be reined in JP or not. It was like a unbridled engine in car before any regulations or standard were put in. The glazing of JP has gone overboard. You got people out here acting like hes some rockstar.

[@stefanw2500]

So also if you look at Snail Games game records. I don't think this has much ground (no phun intended) for being a great game. Also when they say MMO, they might mean self-hosted server-player with 50 players type "MMO".

[@Persuasion94]

Yeah, this isn't going to be able to compete with Star Citizen, and with CIG making their own tech that has taken over a decade to come up with and literally just a few days ago created their first step to become an actual online game, I doubt anything will be able to compete with them. This might be in the league of No Man Sky or Starfield. But Starfield is pretty much at the bottom of the barrel so it's not hard to compete with that.

[@Broccoli_32]

Oh look, another “competitor” that’s just going to end up being a bigger scam than SC. Dual universe 2 vibes

[@moviesandvisualfx5663]

Planet to space vice versa ? IF so it IS an SC killer AHHH no MP .not for me :(

[@johnevans8328]

looks ok......time will tell

[@Clifton_Dynamite2020]

No first person....

[@Nemoticon]

Does it look interesting and cool? Very much so. Does it look like a competitor for Star Citizen? No way, they don't share anything in comparison other than being a sci-fi based genre game.

[@princepookie]

noall the perks that makes on interested in star citizen, mjaority isnt found in here

[@canop1601]

the idea of a voxel on top of mesh looking dig out a cave for a underground world?? lol

[@marcuswynn89]

Yeah it’s going to be good

[@Timme249]

@@marcuswynn89 If it ever will be a reality in some years ...

[@arashiko_amai]

ships in Elite and starfield dont looking cool is your personal subjectiv impression. cant agree that.

[@marcuswynn89]

They fugly

[@tsrmmercy836]

THEY USED AI RENDERS TO SELL THIS GAME 😭😭😭😭😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭GOOFY AHH COMPANY

[@MidAirMamba]

I feel like this video wasn’t a showcase of the game, just a star citizen sucks video. And tbh yes star citizen has made some mistakes by not making bug fixes a high enough priority and not prioritizing gameplay experience high enough but honestly im still pulling for star citizen. A game with no publisher so no extra red tape. And if this game rivals star citizen good because star citizen does need a competitor bad if nothing else to push them compete with something else and force them to elevate certain priorities that should be higher

[@ephalanx1]

The fact is, there is no short cut to SC 13 years of dev time by a smaller company in a shorter time frame. Anyone willing to believe that is fooling themselves. Not saying you were saying that either.

[@epicshade3463]

Just saying who cares as long as the company makes a solid game.Just saying some of you all are turning gaming comparisons to the problems with politics and politicians. How many games today come out as a solid game today is a problem in itself. Must games today have been half way done.When we get past this as a whole then bring this to the table. I'm looking forward to Star citizen and if they end up being a competitor that's fine but that means its got a long ways to go before it even comes out or we see it.Some of you all will treat one mechanic in the game like its going to doom the entire game just because its not what you like. Just because I dont like white cars doesn't mean that it shouldn't be an available color to other people.

[@tsrmmercy836]

Me when I want money and decide to sell dreams to hungry space dweebs. Bluddington used generic models and big boy words to try and sell the game 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@Severance8859]

Ruined 51 seconds in, literally 2 seconds into their trailer. Snail games? Thats an absolute no for me, don't carw who the dev team is, if Snail is the publisher. Blacklisted them long ago and have no interest in anything attached to them. Beware if Snail games.

[@QuotidianStupidity]

This looks like it wants to compete with no mans sky, seems very generic

[@QuotidianStupidity]

“There’s no large structures in SC” Did you not see the stations in Pyro? Why would their be ruins to explore on planets that were never colonised

[@marcuswynn89]

You missed the point of what I was saying, I’m saying star citizen has no mystery

[@marcuswynn89]

You are getting blocked,

[@QuotidianStupidity]

@ you wanted to wonder strong a large structure and think about what happened. You can do that in Pyro. Makes no sense for there to be old ruins on a planet that wasn’t formally colonised

[@QuotidianStupidity]

@@marcuswynn89 for what? Your channel is hardly in a position to be turning down views for no reason

[@alexdafreguesia]

starship v2

[@efritz7]

No. Not from Snail. Snail get rekt. Again. This is StarArk/StarAtlas. Which is fine. But... yeah XD Look into Snail Games. Have fun And what they mean by lore hidden in the game, means no mission/quest system, but make your own damn content. That's their corpotranslation.

[@whatever833]

I was interested in this game for all of 5 seconds and then I saw snail games was involved.... I'm out!!!! Its a conplete no

[@Clifton_Dynamite2020]

Looks like an unreal engine game and them crappy character fortnite Delta force movement... horrid

[@TheRenul]

can't trust snail games

[@FNLastname]

looks like a rip off of dual universe and no mans sky, nothing like star citizen. plus, star citizen has more lore that is not implimented yet. hell, they even created their own ailen language, both spoken and written. this game just looks like a budget cash grab of no mans sky.

[@rayfighter]

so, by your own admission (and you really didn't need to tell us, your comments speak enough rofl), your only expertise is play computer games and drive cars, and make videos about it. And you are doing Star Citizen content, but not recognizing Calix Reneau, the lead designer? Would you only recognize Chris Roberts, because you slap him on your thumbs? Common dude.... this is low

[@marcuswynn89]

Bro the fuck are you talking about?

[@rayfighter]

@@marcuswynn89 I didn't hear you pointing out that one of the game designers on video come from CIG

[@marcuswynn89]

This isn’t a video about fucking CIG

[@rayfighter]

@@marcuswynn89 oh so CIG doesn't develop the Star Citizen. You are such a "bro" it's fucking hilarious at this point. Fuck off

[@demonicsquid7217]

This looks like crap. It also looks like a cash-grab targeting players disillusioned with SC over the last year.