Is Harrisburg's Nightmare America's Future?

[@luvr381]

Need to do what Iceland did, and prosecute and jail inept and crooked politicians.

[@aintnuttinbutathanghomeych8343]

luvr381 He has been😝

[@luvr381]

Thank god

[@maro7125]

luvr381 Iceland is also 99.9% white homogeneous with a shared culture

[@luvr381]

+FiFi roth and?

[@adamkalman6011]

AND? if you don't understand that point then you are probably part of the problem. I bet i know who you voted for.

[@HEDGE1011]

Amazingly they failed to mention that Reed, a Democrat, was charged with almost 500 counts of theft, fraud, and corruption after he left office. He pled guilty to 20 and was sentenced to probation. [Wikipedia.] Astonishing mismanagement. I'd be furious if I was a Pennsylvania resident that had to pay to clean up that mess. Sadly, this isn't the only case of epic and inappropriate spending by local governments in the US. There's a reason limited government is a good thing.

[@Pumpkin3.14pi]

In Texas you get a statement about where your local taxes are going. So if you see that they are spending money on the school, you will see construction on the school. Texas is the best state in the U.S..

[@shizz3086]

Reed was a Republican. I'm from Harrisburg and I saw first hand how he destroyed the city

[@rlucas7374]

@@shizz3086 He is a Democrat you worthless liar.

[@HEDGE1011]

Sean Epps He was a Democrat.

[@orgabaa]

Brian R4520 we need that in California I think...I’d be curious to see just how bad our mismanagement is. I’ve lived in California my entire life, born and raised, and I’m sad to see what it’s become...I love this state, but I’m considering moving to another state

[@dawnm.h.reeves5717]

If the president can serve for at the most 8 years.....than no more than 8 years for ALL politicians! ALL!!!

[@beatdownwornout4122]

Amen! Term limits for ALL politicians!!!

[@CountingStars333]

Agree

[@Arakasi22]

And don't forget the judges for life.

[@AKAxeMan]

You can't get more local than mayor, term limits for federal politicians sure, but mayors and city council members...

[@UncaAlbyGmail]

_no more than 8 years for ALL politicians_ We have that in California, and it doesn't work. All they do is run, and win, similar offices, or the same office in a different community. And if they can't get an elected office, one of their cronies appoints him to some non-elected office where they still have some power.

[@vivistoller]

Why is no one bringing up the fact that this guy kept getting re elected over and over again? They got what they voted for, I feel no pity for those people.

[@tompaul2591]

@@TugIronChief unfortunately they just might drag the rest of us down with them. We can't let that happen.

[@dschneid3489]

@@TugIronChief I was wondering if someone would light that up 😂

[@jameswhite3415]

@MomofOne because Harrisburg has some of best jobs in PA and is desirable.

[@nomorewar4189]

Politicians make promises with your credit cards and people fall for it again and again - the corruption associated with these issues is never addressed and no-one is held accountable in the end.

[@ZacharyBittner]

People loved Reed because he cleaned up the city and got a lot done. He did get in trouble for the scandals at the end of his career. We have since fixed the budget.

[@paulvmarks]

Why should "State and county taxpayers" have to pick up the bill for Harrisburg? If private lenders make the stupid decision of lending money to a city government and the city goes bankrupt, that is a problem for the private lenders (NOT for "State and country taxpayers"), if bankers and bond holders do not want to take a loss then they should not lend money to city governments in the first place. This idea that bankers and bond holders must never take a personal loss (no matter how stupid their lending decisions are) is wrong - it leads to wild lending (which is just as bad as wild borrowing). There can be no wild borrowing without wild lending.

[@Emily-cj9nc]

I think some humanities professors at my old college thought that since the people in the suburbs and the counties should still be taxed because they abandoned the city and exist partly because of the city and should therefore be grateful and contribute their "fair share."

[@EarlFaulk]

@@Emily-cj9nc Sounds like my sociology professor. He thought it was going to be A OK if we forced companies by law to keep jobs in the states. Watch the entire company move overseas then. There goes your tax base.

[@rogerwilco2]

Usually the money owed is not to private investors, but to pension funds, contractors and other governments. The big fish usually got out in time, and it will be the little people who get hurt.

[@aaronhumphrey2009]

Agreed. You're now wise to the concept of all profits are private, all losses are public . And mayor Reed's unsupervised, uncontrolled and unrealistic spending drove the City down on greased skids . Then, he got " in bed " with unscrupulous developers and further sank the financial ship. Criminal ?!

[@marquisdelafayette1929]

Haha isn't it funny how the bankers lend money to a city and that city can't pay it back they want taxpayers to pay it back. They also want bail outs when they screw up but never give money to taxpayers when they make it.

[@a.davenport2111]

The mayor should've been arrested . There is no accountability.

[@lanora]

There is never anyone that is part of the establishment ever held accountable, but if you're a poor person you will be put away for the slightest infraction. There are two separate law systems in this country, one for the haves and another for the have nots. I'm sure you already know this but I have to say it. Sorry for rambling on. You should check out The Young Turks, they really do cover so many stories you will never hear on mainstream media.

[@annemouse6788]

Heck as P. DJT is proving, if you are a rich person and defeat the swamp monster you will be investigated to the point of exhaustion whether or not there was ever an originating crime, and the investigators put people in the klink for lying to them when they fail to have absolutely perfect recall when a question is asked twenty different ways.

[@scotcoon1186]

In Harrisburg, it doesnt stop at city hall.

[@EarlFaulk]

People still support TYT even though they have been caught lying through their teeth several times?

[@HEDGE1011]

Andrew Davenport He actually was charged with almost 500 crimes after leaving office, pleading guilty to 20 and getting probation [Wikipedia], which is an insult to the taxpayers who have to pay for his mess.

[@KeltoiMagus]

Is it possible that the voters who kept him in office be more to blame than the person?

[@mca521980]

The real issue is far less people vote at the state/local levels. So, it's on those who complain, while sitting them out! Lol. Ironically local/state policies hit us hardest. Maybe they should auto-register anyone obtaining official ID (which should be shown when voting)! I mean, we provide them for far less important things. Need an ID to buy a beer but not to vote, go figure? So sad...

[@SwordsmanRyan]

Because of secret voting, we don’t punish people for voting the wrong way so voters have no incentive to vote carefully. I can vote for Bart Simpson regardless of consequences and no one can stop me.

[@LoydAvenheart]

It's still your choice who to vote for. @@SwordsmanRyan

[@caracrabtree715]

Well if he promised to put them on the map and bring in money and jobs... People want to believe promises, look at where the whole could is , because of that. It taking advantage of desperate people who need something one way or another.

[@tolfan4438]

I don't think the voters are more to blame but definitely share a good portion of the blame like 49 to 51

[@elizabethcarpenter4313]

Reed was SUCH a crook! I grew up in Harrisburg in the '50's and early '60's at a time when it was a lovely town and safe. Now I wouldn't even drive the streets I once walked. Nothing but dirt, drugs and despair. Very sad.

[@alphacentauri7381]

Damn sorry for you loss

[@OldTimeWorld]

Baltimore where I grew up, is the same.

[@lolawelch7235]

OMG

[@nycholaus]

Nope. Things Reed actually did right were pursue slumlords, demolish condemned buildings, decrease crime, attract investment, turn downtown from boarded up shops into center of culture and nightlife, etc. Incidents of assault, armed robbery, etc. Only saw A MASSIVE spike after his predecessor condemned all these policies as racist, tied police hands, reduced patrols, promoted anti-business policies, etc She literally said that dozing burned out row houses was "gentrification" and "whitewashing" She was so disagreeable that she had 100% staff turnover and went through at least 5 press secretaries in her single term. All resigned over being unable to work with her or defend the outrageous public statements of her and her handpicked staff of unqualified family and friends. When she vacated the Capitol building, a team of exterminators was needed to remove rats, roaches, fleas, and lice that had infested the offices of her staff, offices that had rotting food in desk drawers, refuse piled in corners, etc. This was the condition of public spaces in PA's capitol building through her entire term.

[@deaterk]

Liz- Nearly every town in America has changed radically since the 50s & 60s...as has the entire world...much of it not for the better. The USA hit a peak of prosperity, growth, and optimism at that time that I doubt will be repeated. It was indeed a special time.

[@spottedmahn]

It’s been 8 years, a follow up would be interesting!

[@elizabethcarpenter4313]

8 years later - worse than ever.

[@GhostofTradition]

They keep voting for dems and its the same..

[@briant7265]

@@GhostofTradition But maybe this new Democrat will be better!

[@Ic_truth]

I live here. Its a shithole.

[@GhostofTradition]

@@hbeefk11379 the suburbs of Harrisburg are very nice and more expensive

[@marytica123]

ALL THE OLD "RUST BELT" CITIES ARE FADING, thanks to the decline / move of industry to foreign nations. Museums and other tourist attractions will NOT replace actual PRODUCTION of tangible goods. If people want tourist attractions, they go to Orlando or Las Vegas, not some declining has-been city in PA !

[@justinsharrow6188]

Thank you......

[@Davido50]

Mary A haha most "rust belt" cities are coming back strong while decline is happening in Orlando /Jacksonville/Atlanta.

[@brooksanderson2599]

Mary A You are correct! I live in Saltillo, Mexico, the socalled Detroit of Mexico about 250 mies SSW of Laredo, Texas. Late at night miles long trains pull into the city loaded with parts for US brand cars and pickups. Once assembled, they are shipped back to the USA: Production ine workers down here make ab0ut $15 to $17 dollar equivalent PER DAY! They earn more by working long hours. Mexicans work the greatest number of hours of any nation including Korea and Japan. Google the topic! Its the Republican oligarcs and corporate Democrats who decided that US jobs would be outsourced to Mexico. And, when was the last time you saw car and pickup prices go down? IF you voted for either the Clintons OR D. Trump, you voted against your own interests. LOL!

[@jonathanflynn7025]

You mean automation and domestic competition right? Scapegoating globalism, despite the fact that it had resulted in a net gain of jobs, ignores the real loses due to automation in the manufacturing industry and domestic competition from states without union protection (i.e the sunbelt).

[@roostero]

Why would you have a "Wild West Museum" in the EASTERN city of Harrisburg? I think Mayor Reid likes cowboys. I think he likes them A LOT.

[@MoneyMindMusic]

This is the issue with our whole government they're spending money on things we dont need or want!

[@JohnRinNoHo]

They're spending money they don't have on things we don't need or want!

[@JohnRinNoHo]

@Brad Smith The top 50% of income earners pay nearly all the income taxes collected.

[@michaelroberts7770]

Destroy a city, leave it in debt, get charged and convicted.... No Jail time and just a small fine..... It's great to be a Democrat Politician in America....

[@stansman5461]

@whatajoke333 Not a peep? What rock are you living under? There's still constant attempt to repeal Obamacare. That's why Dems were fighting so hard for the USSC nomination of ACB. They think this is how they are going to repeat Obamacare since they can't do it through Congress as democrats have a majority in House. With Congress not possible, plan B would be SC.

[@stansman5461]

@Joe Sinkovic my bad. It's a typo. Fixed it. And no, there's a normal way to fix healthcare and coverage. Stop fucking with it. Stop restricting the number of doctors allowed in a year, or restricting the practise of private healthcare providers, or forcing every upcoming hospital to need approval from an existing hospitals board. Government has basically made it a mafia where you need permission from the crime families before you can even open a restaurant. Leave healthcare alone. At best, you can follow Finland's model where government provides public hospitals for low price but also relatively low quality. That way the burden on public healthcare will be reduced because anyone who can afford private will do so, and private businesses will have to compete with each other.

[@hardworker5588]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Harrisburg is a one party city. Hmmmmmm, what party could that be?

[@hardworker5588]

@@eode6s -- Not quite true. For the 1st time in American history the voters took a chance and put someone in the white house who had never served in office or the military. And by the way the swamp is reacting, I'd say he is delivering on promises like neither party has in 200 years.

[@dondressel452]

It’s only going to get worse now with idiots voting for people like socialism and AOC

[@pjwicky7173]

I live in Harrisburg and yes its a total shit stain💯💯

[@zacharylongenecker4552]

yeah same it's pretty depressing

[@chef4208]

I've been wondering why it's so cheap in PA. I'm planning on leaving NYC and I've been checking the rent in different states and cities and PA is cheaper than the south. Crazy, didnt realize it was bad like that.

[@apimpnamedslickback7115]

It can't be worse then Jeanette

[@chef4208]

@Tom P I hear you Tom thanks for the good wishes

[@chef4208]

@King Jiggah yeah a few of my friends from NYC moved up there and they say they like it because of the cost of living.

[@christhomas953]

Yet I am sure that the mayor, and city manager both gave themselves pay raises.

[@titoyama5760]

And big bonus

[@ccla7018]

No government has any right to own property in the private sector. So yes, their is a massive problem with the government being entrepreneurial with other people's money.

[@titoyama5760]

Just like the feds they own so much private property, All the property own by the government should be public with the exception of the white house

[@markfox1545]

*there.

[@mcw9740]

grew up here and this made harrisburg look way nicer than it actually is.

[@mcw9740]

@robert howard haha yeah

[@FabioKraussStabel]

"nothing wrong with government being entrepreneurial"... that's scary huh?

[@vito7pt]

Fabio Krauss Stabel Total madness indeed. This kind of mindset is more dangerous than soldiers at the step of your door. 😅

[@jjk265]

especially seeing as 90 percent of politicians have no business experience

[@jjk265]

ummm I'm not even sure what point ur trying to make. the mayor was actually trying to do what he thought was good for the city not special interest groups the problem was he was a moron like pretty much all politicians that have no concept of checks and balances and 9 out of 10 have never even stepped foot in the business world and have no clue. if special interests groups were involved the mayor would have become extremely rich in the process

[@jjk265]

nice guy, don't get me wrong I'm not trying to start an argument I just really didn't understand how ur point pertained to this incident

[@ZacharyBittner]

J Jk he was mayor for 30 damn years. He isn't the nightmare this video made him out to be and did an awful lot of good.

[@LancGuy13]

In July 2015 Mayor Reed was charged with 499 crimes including bribery, racketeering, corruption, and theft by deception. In January 2017 he pled guilty to 20 counts of theft, and received 2 years probation.

[@donscott923]

LancGuy13 All of taxpayers Money..(smh) I did my Prison time and they Must do thiers: Career-Politicians!!!!

[@LancGuy13]

Mayor Quimby: We will now hear suggestions for the disbursement of the uhh two million dollars. Lisa: Don't you mean three million dollars? Mayor Quimby: (looks around nervously, adjusts his tie) Of course. How silly of me.

[@keithporter3798]

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[@keithporter3798]

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[@keithporter3798]

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[@TheRealFollower]

The purpose of a mayor is to keep things running smoothly and build infrastructure. This man should have been nowhere near government.

[@jryde421]

He should be in prison but we wont protest about that...the rest of America will follow the same faith.

[@TheRisky9]

When a business man's idea fails, he liquidates his assets, pays off his creditors and then starts over. When government fails, it warehouses the assets and ignores it?

[@37thousand]

Yeah shit makes no sense. And spending 3.7 million for an incomplete building ? Wtf are we doing ?

[@evannibbe9375]

@@37thousand If he wants to build something properly, he needs to swallow his principles like any business owner, and pay for the best combination of cheap and strong prefabricated units from the most competitive company, whether that company be based in the U.S. or (more likely) China. Making sure everything is competitively priced in every aspect is something that politicians willfully misunderstand.

[@37thousand]

@@evannibbe9375 💯

[@bobbiwolfgang]

My hometown IS HARRISBURG! I is now 2019, and not a lot has changed. However, there have been several business folks who are trying to make things better. Mayor Reed has been indicted for buying many personal antiques at the city's expense. Downtown offers some nice restaurants and night spots. But we still have a LONG way to go with blighted neighborhoods and poverty!

[@criznitty]

“Preoccupied with building white elephants that it neglected core functions” ... NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Detroit...

[@joshuaransome907]

Harrisburg is a dump. I've lived all over the East coast and Harrisburg is by far the worst place I've live. HORRIBLE!

[@guyazbell8169]

Joshua Ransome ballmesumore or Baltimore is bad or good too

[@paulsawczyc5019]

All state capitals are hellish shitholes because it's where the devil resides and does his business.

[@RFJersey]

NYC is the best the USA has and will ever have.

[@paulsawczyc5019]

NYC is lucky to be #1 tourist attraction - helps alot to keep it going.

[@mybigfatpolishlife]

Guy Azbell Baltimore is pretty bad

[@ronobrien7187]

The question shouldn't be "what to do after companies leave?", the question should be "why are companies leaving?". Also, when has gov't ever entered into a successful business?

[@walt4908]

Ron, you are so simple. They leave because they have exploited the resources, destroyed the ecology, or found cheaper labor elsewhere. To your other point. NASA, Hoover Dam, All the friggin highways that go north and south, just to name a few. Shame you aren't able to think for yourself. Step away from Fox News once in a while. Oh, yeah, and by the way when has Donald J. Trump entered into any business that didn't include graft, fraud, lies, and deceit let alone a successful one.

[@ronobrien7187]

@@walt4908 Your examples are not businesses. They are government projects which were accomplished by private industry. Learn what you are talking about before you call people names.

[@walt4908]

@@ronobrien7187 Notice you didn't respond to the other topics. OK the Post Office (ran great till the Republicans made them and only them pay forward the pensions for any possible employees hired over the next 75 years.), Amtrac ( this is a "common good" it isn't supposed to absolutely make money it is to help), NASA still applies to see my Honeywell analogy below... How about Welfare. They are able to accurately send out millions and millions of checks each month to Americans in need. VA, IRS If given the opportunity to function properly and not be gutted or have Republican Congressmen and Senators make it impossible to do their jobs and then those same Republicans point their fingers touching things and say "see they are failing" Should I keep going? The Military you want to tell them they are failures and can't do the job right? The government hired private industry to do the work so if Honeywell hires outside consultants to do some work for them and Honeywell brings the product online are they not the creators of the product. Is not the government's use of private industry to do the actual activity the same thing. So I reiterate you are simple. You are trying to start an argument that has been disproved and only stupid people continue to bring it up. Ten minutes of research would have told you this. So, If you are still unable to see the similarity then you are that person I'm discussing.

[@ronobrien7187]

@@walt4908 The post office is quasi governmental. Amtrac the same. Welfare is the administration of others peoples money. The military does not generate revenue, which is what a business does. Business trades in goods and services for a bilaterally negotiated outcome. You can't differentiate between a government contract to meet the obligations of the government duties and free enterprise. Free enterprise can can decide to be in the business or not , and where to practice that business or not. Government can't decide one day not be in the military, or to deliver the mail, or to hand out other peoples money to welfare recipients. In the case of the post office and your observation, they were doing great until had actually meet their obligations. How is it that USPS is in financial straits while private delivery services are making their employees rich. You may allude to my intelligence, but you are a true moron.

[@walt4908]

Ya, know I take it all back Yes Having a businessman in office has been such a great success. 250 thousand dead, the economy in shambles. I'm sure I don't need to explain how a drop in the GDP of 34 percent is more than a rise of 34 percent. Still down, running a negative percent for the total year. So much for the 4 - 6 percent Trump promised. Couldn't even beat Obama's numbers even with the tax break Trump got through Congress. Still down 12 million jobs. Higher loss of balance of payments than ever before in history. An additional 6 Trillion in debt and over one Trillion in deficits each year. Remember that tax break? You and I will have to pay it back ours and for the rich who got 82 percent of the actual benefits. Remember, ours were temporary businesses got a free ride don't have to pay back their windfall! Most of it spent on share buybacks that only helped Trump's rich friends. Can you say Socialism of the rich? The loss of our agricultural prowess and have had to give the farmers billions and billions of money to keep them alive. Lost all that business to Brazil and Israel. Great job with the Post Office. Trump's right-hand man promised there would be no problems as he removes essential equipment and has slowed down the process with impediments to its proper flow of the mail. Tell me what Trump hasn't fucked up and I tell you just wait. He will get there. Just idiots like you who want to give him four more years and if he does win he will destroy everything we Americans hold dear. Good job!

[@nijah_r]

As a resident of Harrisburg, I can confirm

[@SpectreSouls]

As another resident, I can confirm your confirmation

[@Corinari]

As a third yes

[@ppazpppaz8618]

Refresh my memory how much have the Republicans and Trump approved recently? I think it had a T in it ....

[@agoniaXdunya]

Can’t even finish your sentence? No wonder Harrisburg is in the dumps.

[@50chevtrk1]

@@ppazpppaz8618 well I'll refresh your memory. The house holds the purse. Soooo wouldn't that be the democrats ? yup Nancy Pelosi likes to add a bunch of no nonsense to those. Like the 40 million to the performing arts at the first plandemic relief package then after they got it they laid everyone off. Yes she Nancy did that who is she a Democrat. Do you have anything else besides trump's fault.

[@DanJen]

In other words, the Mayor wanted to be play Walt Disney but with other people's money.

[@vito7pt]

Dan & Jen Nevada Spot on ✌️

[@thunberbolttwo3953]

Typical liberal.

[@ZacharyBittner]

Actually, they negate to tell you that reed was mayor since 1982 and was beloved for revitalizing Harrisburg and wasn't re-elected because everyone assumed he was just going to get elected again so no one voted. Linda Thompson replaced him and had scandal after scandal and only served one term. Papenfuse replaced her and isn't as popular as reed but is pretty uneventful. Either way, a 30 year long record as mayor is a pretty damn good record and there is no telling if he continued to be mayor if it would have still had budgetary problems and reed still continues to be popular for all the major projects he did do.

[@jamesanderson-oc5kg]

They need to bring in jobs not Disney Land.

[@ZacharyBittner]

james anderson a lot of the jobs that left was because we exported a lot of the steel manufacturing to China which the neighboring city did most of the production. Harrisburg otherwise isn't really growing or shrinking. Just stagnant but thats fine. When there is a huge boom in the country. We tend to be ok. When there is a huge crisis in the country. Harrisburg remains the same. Even with the huge debt and almost bankruptcy. If you lived here you didn't experience or feel it. They just restructured and things went on as usual.

[@AndrewJeffersonCotter]

When the mayor was talking about the wild west museum he reminded me of Michael Scott from the Office.

[@patchchrist]

Yep, the US version, where it's in Scranton. What a surprise.

[@Mr3DLC]

Oh good i freaked out for nothing I live in harrisburg....... North carolina

[@enterusernamehere7150]

Lol unfortunately I live in this Harrisburg

[@novumdomine9925]

Yep, I freaked out as well. Lol. I also live in Harrisburg...... North Carolina

[@Mr3DLC]

@@novumdomine9925 oh yeah? Do you post youtube content too?

[@kyleg8098]

42 teachers in Harrisburg have quit on the spot all at once...nuff said

[@rubbertwain]

Because black students

[@davedodge7761]

Glad to hear that. Hang the mayor in town square

[@truth135]

@@rubbertwain noone will admit it

[@ascendedweeb328]

Berrot McMusing im part black but sadly this is true to some point,these black parents aren’t raising their kids,no father figures,they never want to work in school,all they care about is either fights,rappers , or some fucking basketball players

[@yguyonabufffnilrebmahc344]

haha

[@hennyoldman8068]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@nunyabiznis817]

According to Wikipedia, Reed was mayor of Harrisburg for 28 years! LOL So, you cannot blame him. You have to blame the democrats who voted for him for *28 FUCKING YEARS*

[@anonmouse2809]

And with the roadwork performed by DEMONcrats.

[@pwilki8631]

Im starting a paving company called GOOD INTENTIONS PAVING

[@pavelthefabulous5675]

At least it's paved...

[@jnstonbely5215]

The Demagogue Party and their libturd pals stuffed their pockets with money giving out the contracts for all these worthless projects & that sh*thead mayor (28 f’kn years !) has the cash he stole from the taxpayers & where the he’ll is he now ? Prosecuted and convicted , I don’t think so . You appoint a lot of judges in 28 years .... THAT’S your democrat party for you ! “Tax and spend “ and steal as much money as you can. Disgusting basta*ds !

[@Mr.G_717]

No wonder in 31 yrs I've never saw growth... only parking garages and more low income housing. Smh. The hill south summit!

[@jerrymoore8364]

Democrat controlled cities all over America are in the same or worse condition.

[@donnaroberts4513]

Baltimore is another example.

[@rockstarofredondo]

St. Louis

[@pandionhalatius6927]

“Charismatic mayor” shows an actual embalmed fish

[@joefish6091]

charismatic is a polite way to say psychopathic.

[@okrajoe]

Depressing story.

[@thomasburns2557]

A sign of things to come

[@perfectsplit5515]

Yes it is depressing. I used to live there back in the late 90's / early 2000's during the last few years of the IT boom. It was the most prosperous period of my life. Sad to see how far it has deteriorated under Democratic rule. It was referenced on an episode of 21 Jump Street by the fictional Judy Hoffs, as she is tracking down a non-custodial divorced father who was illegally raising his son.

[@liner011f7]

Very generous to the government employees....

[@rubbertwain]

Instructional story. Vote your conservative values.

[@Gogglesofkrome]

it is yet another example as to why democracy is a terrible system that has fallen far from what our republic used to be. All of the morons who take more than they give have a say on how this country is run, and since of course they're now starting to become the majority, it is really not much of a shock to see how things have gone. Of course things will only continue to get worse on the national level. If we're going to resume the privilege to vote, it should only be for people who pay more into the system than they take out.

[@rudeboyjohn]

couple years ago I drove through this city for the first time ever...and my immediate thought was "damn, ISIS blew this shit up!"

[@elizabethhill8184]

Reed was horrible and stupid people kept him in office for all those years

[@raymondready7496]

It isn't elect, its select. Dems sold us out and so did Republicans. Two sides of same coin. And as we complain nothing changes. This 8s the common denominator. Govern means control and mento means mind. It's in our face and we point our fingers at each other.

[@OldTimeWorld]

That is the story on half of all Public Servants. They can't suceed at the job, so instead take money for themselves! Howard Johnson

[@k3th.b.w122]

And they reep what you sew.

[@SergeantExtreme]

Stop saying "stupid people" kept him in office. Say it like it is: bl@cks kept him in office; the most destructive race.

[@ES031]

@@SergeantExtreme say that shit at your work see how fast you get fired

[@GoldRushMedia2023]

LOL, they drove out all the awful rich people and now they don't have anyone there to pay the taxes! Serves them right!

[@bff1316]

california's super majority democrats keep increasing our taxes to pay for those who will not work until we all leave because we cannot afford to stay to support the 90% who refuse to work. 90% is an exaggeration, it just seems that way.

[@teknowil]

I try to tell the rich haters that they really need these guys fat and happy and more of them. If they are fat and happy they usually dont care where their money goes. besides you cant get money out of poor people. If you want big gov and freebies you need a lot of rich people.

[@shingshongshamalama]

Yeah, how dare you have to support the rest of society!

[@checkyoursix5623]

Sounds like Venezuela ...

[@pikadore216]

I've lived here my whole life. It's a hell hole.

[@EthosAtheos]

I've seen small town after small town in my state build massive town halls and police departments. Only to fire teachers and get rid of or charge for essential services. This isn't just a problem in Harrisburg this is a national crisis. Towns take the cheap loans and spend spend spend, this is just another form of predatory lending. They give tax payers money to business in an effort to make jobs. But the jobs never materialize or are low wage labor jobs. Or worse gut the small business that were employing many more people (I'm looking at you Wall*Mart and Amazon). For once the libertarian is right. It isn't a towns job to make jobs. It is a towns job to promote education and provide for a civil society. We have got to stop trying to spend our way to prosperity. Towns need to spend more on education and social programs. When they spend money on promoting business that money needs to be tired directly to a goal. If that goal isn't met then the business pays back the money. I have no problem with towns courting big companies but there is no reason to be taken advantage of at the expense of the tax payers.

[@zorkmid1083]

That sounds good, but there are some flaws. 1) where's the money coming from for education and civil services? 2) if the goal isn't met, how are you going to hold the business accountable? File a lawsuit? How will you prove it? 3) companies are mainly interested in money, or the services that facilitate productivity (and making money). Something like NYC can do both, hence Amazon's HQ. How will that happen for a small town like Harrisburg? Small population, out in the sticks, relatively speaking. If it was closer to Philadelphia, maybe.

[@achancery10]

All the debt was fueled by Bush, Obama, Greenspan, & Bernanke. Artificially holding interest rates low or @ 0% for 2 decades.

[@somedude9528]

+anchancery10 And all the problems in general go back to Reagan.

[@kimmiwertz6744]

Although I was born and raised in Carlisle I'm now a resident of Chambersburg. Both the borough and county are quite solvent and haven't raised taxes in the last several years. Plus both councils are very concerned about their constitutes.

[@OldTimeWorld]

I grew up in Baltimore MD, and as a youth walked from school, to my grandfathers office, and to my father's office, and loved the many neighborhoods I came to know. Although leaders make mistakes, it's the declining quality of the people that live in the city that leads to its demise. The WWII generation appreciated and took care of everything!

[@i.m.9918]

Yes. And practiced formal racial segregation and spontaneous lynching. Put down the alcohol and blinders.

[@finddeniro]

City of Anger. .1950s Baltimore .William Manchester's Book..

[@mrillis9259]

The generation your holding up high gave up everything for themselves an literally killed the future for their descendants. With their terrible voting. Awful just awful. The most bored generation went to eat en mass an left the future to communism. Loved globalism. Allowed the destruction of western industrialization.

[@timgloeckler8636]

Your right people are all for self an to make money is everything even if it destroys the infrastructure

[@timgloeckler8636]

Most cities are built on coke or heroin

[@specvracer1]

23 years as the mayor? Well there's your problem. I sure hope they established term limits on ALL elected positions after this. Didnt watch more than the first few minutes when they left out the political party and stated the above.

[@munenex]

Hah. You knew

[@mirzaahmed6589]

28 years

[@ShiftingSkys]

I mean honestly it is kind of irrelevant what party they are from. Its not really a political video. Though anyone with common sense can go look up the mayors party affiliation. There are Republican run cities getting fucked too but So much fewer then the (D) Run states.

[@shaddythewiz3836]

@@ShiftingSkys I think the problem with that is because there's just more democratic run cities. For example in the top 10 most populated cities only 2 are run by Republicans .

[@jrusselison]

Hedging on tourism to entice people is always a bad thing for business. It is business and job opportunities that draws in people 😃

[@bigimskiweisenheimer8325]

The problem is they cant count on tourism because the infrastructure is crumbling and the crime is too bad so people avoid the city.

[@reedermh]

There are only a handful of cities that can live on tourism. Washington DC does because it's the nation's capital. Las Vegas due to gambling, Orlando due to Disney, New Orleans due to Mardi Gras (and even NOLA isn't doing that well).

[@DubRighteous]

These brilliant visionaries could get a job with the venezuelan government.

[@kingmike40]

That would be the best thing they could do. Go bankrupt another country beside the U.S. but than again our federal politicians are doing that on their own. 20 trillion and little to show.

[@tgamron]

Or the DNC.

[@mentallyilldarkjeroid5378]

Pubic Harrisburg, Pencil-fuckia. (Assho)nest Abe. Building white bestiality-raped elephants. How droll. Yes, this should happen to all of America. James Grider in my novel Impact which people should buy on Amazon so I can afford a used car wants that because then he'll have more freedom. The government is so corrupt that the only way for it to do and make it stop enforcing draconian regulations is to make it broke as fuck so it doesn't have the money to do it. And Harrisburg is full of black people from Colin Flaherty's KZbin channel, that's why it's full of crime and kids can't read.

[@TrevorLindgren]

Lol!

[@MrTitaniumDioxide]

You could read objective accounts of the crisis in Venezuela -- yes, corruption exists & Venezuela unwisely had not developed much industry beyond petroleum, but this crisis was created by international bankster credit squeezes, right-wing-orchestrated consumer goods shortages, Saudi-led depressed oil prices, CIA/US State Dept. skulduggery (planned assassination of Chavez, etc., etc.), retribution for nationalizing their oil fields...wake up Clem, the USA has been meddling in Latin American politics for centuries...or you can keep napping curled up in your Stars n' Stripes...dreaming of a capitalist system which actually _cares_ whether you live or die...the 1950s called, they want their red-baiting back...ah, corporate stooges, what _would_ we do without 'em?

[@melanieevaldi6468]

They owe money and artifacts are still in storage. Seriously ?

[@chriscorbin1055]

Good point.heck sell that museum and fix the city.suprised the bank didn't take.kind of fishey.

[@aigirls9927]

@@chriscorbin1055 becasue these items are essentailay worthless, they have SENTIMENTAL value;0

[@faithjanssen6378]

The thing about the private sector is that when it makes bad decisions, companies go out of business. This forces them to literally make good decisions or die. The foolhardy and stupid disappear, the prudent and smart stay around. As a result the private sector is usually very good at whatever it does. The public sector is fundamentally different in that it can always take money from the citizenry, or borrow it on their behalf, when it makes bad decisions, so it never suffers any ill effects from its terrible choices until the situation becomes so awful that its citizenry literally can't pay anymore and nobody else will lend. At that point it is extremely hard to rectify matters, particularly because the people charged with remediating the disastrous situation are the exact same ones that caused it in the first place. This being the case, the only solution is to set and maintain strict limits on the public sector's ability to raise taxes and incur debt. Failing this, all governments, be they left or right wing, well meaning or not, shall always wind up in the same place. It is the government's job to create an environment in which the private sector can flourish, not try to be entrepreneurial themselves.

[@TheJpwzrd]

Faith Janssen nice 👍

[@TheJpwzrd]

Faith Janssen TERM LIMITS!

[@barbibutton9619]

your very wrong but I'm too tired to explain why

[@kevinsingleton5745]

Faith Janssen AMEN!

[@BOB-wx3fq]

There are certain 'industries' that shouldn't be run like businesses. Private sector medical corporations on average spend 80% on advertising and lobbying and less than 20% on actual research and development

[@wfdix1]

“I don’t see anything wrong with government being entrepreneurial.” Is that how Obama incurred $15 trillion in federal debt. Keep in mind, people voted for this to happen.

[@jsmeswagner6104]

No n9t at all no-one votes for these crooks to waste money. They tell us what's going on what they want. But when the bargain for the deals they add shit and employ thier kids. Take bids for projects then the project takes millions more than agreed to. Or the company syphons millions and no-one knows where it went. They go to jail for 6 months and never return the millions. Most private companies are set up by politicans families. Your blaming people for voting when it's the politicans that are crooked

[@timgloeckler8636]

Democrats are insane. They are making the dollar bill worthless an they have no common sense we are doomed as long as democrats are running america

[@joeyoungs8426]

And the last administration added to it. Both sides of the aisle are self serving and corrupt. Too often one side blames the other when they’re both to blame.

[@Green__one]

Unfortunately the poor quality of the education in schools means that the majority of the population doesn't understand money. Politicians love this, because it means that it's very easy to buy votes by promising to give money away to all sorts of pet projects without the people realizing that it's their money that's being given away. This is why good financial education in school never really makes it into the curriculum, it would be devastating for most politicians if voters understood economics.

[@CaseNumber00]

Looks like a few people in these comments failed their Government 101 class. It's Congress that makes and sets the federal budget and, if I recall, Republicans were the majority in the Congress during Obama's terms.

[@psyxypher3881]

If Springfield Massachusetts is considered an upgrade, I shudder to imagine this place.

[@kenperlman2204]

Government being entrepreneurial? In other words taking risk wit other people’s money. That’s not being an entrepreneur.

[@boyce1204]

Who kept electing Stephen reed over and over thinking it was going to get better

[@JamesBond-uz2dm]

people from " the community"

[@ZacharyBittner]

Good question, he did lots and lots of great things for years. Think about it, he was mayor for almost 30 years and this video could only dig up two pieces of dirt on him. The only reason he lost was because he didn't campaign and no one voted because everyone liked the majority of the things he did.

[@wanderingman8921]

You know what the definition of insanity is?

[@goldwolf9995]

Look up that mayor, he was charged with over 400 charges . A judge threw out 305 charges saying that they were too old to prosecute. all 305 are related to things he did as mayor. www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2015/07/former_harrisburg_mayor_stephe_6.html

[@anonmouse2809]

Who kept reflecting him? The dumbfuckk DEMONcrat voters, that’s who. Republican voters with brains left the city, as did we in Yinzburgh and Philthydelphia.

[@eaglesfan109]

Lived there from 1996-2012. Lack of work opportunity and corruption and why I unapologetically left. I now live in the south and have no regrets.

[@tommyboy71]

Think about what's happening in Detroit, Chicago, and Cleveland. Any common denominators? Be honest!

[@tommyboy71]

Hey AD. Eyd luv t fuk u up. Pc a shit.

[@stevemcdonald4400]

ummm..lets see...hmmm..oh! blacks?

[@keltondavis4559]

Tommy Boy71 all run by Democrats for decades in a row

[@ROTAXD]

Tommy Boy71 hmmm. Let's see. The top three common denominators would be typical demorat politicians, blacks on the government tit and ignorant white voters that will listen to any politician with a D next to their name on the ballot.

[@gregoryzoebisch7792]

The Democrats have always been the oppressors of the blacks...why do you think Bill and Hillary are well known for their racial slurs? But just give them free phones and food and they line right up don't they....it's one thing to be free but you gotta leave the plantation to do that!!!

[@SirGlockALott]

Term limits for all politicians!

[@cheetolalito]

Seminole Texas’ leaders have the same mentality as Harrisburg. Maybe one day we’ll change the city sign to Harrisburg Jr.

[@granderondeproductions3286]

That town out by Ackerly and Lamesa? LOL there's nothing there. You should see Levelland.

[@mikeb2496]

"That looks like a good plan!" Says Scranton, PA.

[@RinoaL]

Kinda funny, ive never even heard of this town. guess that shows how much it failed at tourism. lol

[@RinoaL]

+Ken MacDonald nope, never been anywhere near that state even, dont even know for sure which state it is. the only time that Pennsylvania has ever come up in my life is when i noticed it was stamped on antique Coes wrenches. you seem to be more familiar with Pennsylvania, so imagine we are talking about Hokkaido and now the situation is most likely exactly reversed. and yes i've heard of 3 mile island, had no clue where it was though.

[@KandiKlover]

Ken MacDonald yeah people have heard of that bullshit even less.

[@fissh29]

Rinoa Super-Genius and how bad you failed at geography LMAO...Pa state capital, was once the capital of the US??? Another reason America is lost...stupidity!!!

[@kallekula1860]

No, it ONLY shows your ignorance. This happens when you play video games all day and haven't a notion of what a book is.

[@magnificentbastard2311]

Kinda funny .. your comment shows how the ignorant seem to survive despite themselves

[@patdough7515]

A fine example of Democrats/Liberal run cities ... vote Republican and Vote Trump 2020 🇺🇸💕🇺🇸💕🇺🇸

[@Dubmcbogie]

You're an example of a Trumptard.

[@khalebjoseph871]

That’s why Biden won pussy

[@patchchrist]

We have, but the Media & China want to bum rush Biden, yet they're still counting our votes.

[@E0572-e1n]

@@khalebjoseph871 yea keep celebrating higher taxes and lockdowns. You people have let your emotions get in the way. What matters is a politicians policies

[@triestoohard1]

Would vote Republican if anyone but Trump was running..

[@peterohman8469]

Being an Australian I am not in a very good position to comment, but it seems to me that the loss of industry from the NE of the USA started the problems and democracy did not help until it was too late. So neoliberalism & democracy both failed.

[@gregoryzoebisch7792]

YOu are correct ...it ruined the NE. When I started High School, it was still possible ( although the loss of industry was well under way already) but it was still possible to actually get a good paying job and live well. By the time I exited High School ( mid 80's) it was all over...nothing...nada zilch...they ruined us...and Reagan was a big part of that too....

[@gregoryzoebisch7792]

Well yeah there's that too..but it would be better if they could read wouldn't it?

[@theashpilez]

Peter Ohman when general electric moved it collapsed MOST of the employment in the area. Start researching.. My h.o. scale trains were made in Pennsylvania and surrounding areas.. I still have the boxes to prove it... Someone started selling out their own country... Here we are now..FUCKED for LIFE... all hail the capatalist party...✋✋✋

[@jaredhawkins522]

Bobby Fhet which party would that be?

[@PrezVeto]

If you're using the term "neoliberalism" with a straight face, you've been getting your information from uninformed sources.

[@panama-canada]

Harrisburg is 4 years behind preparing its financial statements??? Where are the auditors looking? Junk rating bonds prob.

[@Markyellowcake]

I'd like to see ordinary businesses take 4 years to do their books. They'd be shut down by the state and fed before 4 years elapsed. But I guess gubbermint is special. Just like Venezuela is special...

[@annemouse6788]

Heck the infernal resource suckers would be there with their vampire minions in less than a year at best...

[@onemercilessming1342]

In the 1960s, Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and other USA cities became a haven for the disenfranchised, the welfare recipients, the riff-raff of American society. Those inner cities were dangerous even back then. What do you think happens when businesses are constantly robbed and citizens' homes are invaded repeatedly? What do you think happens when the working class and business owners move OUT and the wretched refuse moves in and proliferates on the public dole? What do you think happens when the only wage EARNERS are the politicos and the fire, police, social workers, teachers, etc. who do not LIVE in the city? Look at San Bernardino, CA. The entire school district is Title 1. Approximately 98% of the students are on free breakfast and lunch (admittedly federal programs), but the tax base is nil. When city workers retire on pensions, it's yet another drain on the system. The streets are daily reminders of gang warfare and drug dealing. No one with any sense goes there unless they have to. The city went bankrupt in 2012. Five years later, it is SLOWLY emerging out of it, but it's still a barrio/ghetto, the gangs still rule, and it was, in 2016, named the most dangerous city in CA.

[@chieftp]

before political correctness, we use to refer to these areas as "Niggertown."

[@yaries7076]

Do not blame civil servants pensions on the drain of "systems". As well as on any company-those employees contribute substantial investments to their retirement that are mis- managed by the CO's and Poltical leaders the same as profits and tax dollars.

[@zorkmid1083]

*sigh* After WWII, the tax base moved out into the suburbs. Those who couldn't afford a car and house stayed in the cities. Also, a lot of companies picked up and left because labor is way cheaper overseas. You want a manufacturing job that pays the same as one in Asia?

[@johnjacobjingle7177]

I bet the charismatic mayor was along the same lines as Obama...Ambitions of a charismatic leader seem to lead to chaos...

[@donnaroberts4513]

The mainstream media didn’t even talk about the Obama failures-they hid it. I was just informing my Family about some of the terrible things that was done under Obama Administration. e.g drone strikes that killed innocent people in the Middle East he assisted in destruction caused by the Syrian war give Wall Street business so much benefits etc.and they were shocked.

[@RD-kf9rc]

The mayor must have Been insane. This is a Bad joke.

[@r.preskop5675]

This is what happens when city government leaders waste their thoughts and taxpayers money solely on tourism, a mostly minimum wage industry that produces very little in tangible financial results to the community. It is very obvious that the incumbent mayor of Harrisburg has been in office for too damned long. This is why all older northern cities and their suburbs as well need term limits for all elected offices. Let me guess, Harrisburg has been under the long time boot of democratic monopoly control for who knows how many years. Most of these cities have declined and have struggled for decades but what do democratic politicians think up of, TOURISM, HOTELS, SPORTS STADIUMS, CONVENTION CENTERS and other costly idiotic silver bullets that they think will turn a city's declining fortunes around. Meanwhile urban infrastructure deteriorates, the schools are failing, and public safety is underfunded and these core public services just wither away. It is no wonder that most older northern cities are in the horrendous shape and continue to decline. But all these urban politicians know is spending money on more tourism and the worst hobgoblin of them all, casino gambling.

[@bub422]

R. Preskop It's like watching someone who doesn't know how to play Simcity. MY GOD MAN! What have you done!?!?! "Tourism bro it'll help my money, see those casino's? big money big money." Your city is going to demolish itself you know that right? 2 days later. What happened to your city bro? "Oh, yeah i had thousands of criminals, nobody wanted to live there and we went bankrupt so i started a new town. This time i decided to stimulate my economic balance based on science, it's going rather well if i do say so myself" wow bro, i'm really proud of you. *pats friend on the head* Sadly that very nice ending is not how our city is going. Almost like watching an ignorant person play Simcity. "NO NO NO! I WILL MAKE THIS TOURISM THRIVE DAMNIT! WITH GOD AS MY WITNESS! It's possible don't get me wrong but damnit you have to stabilize FIRST! fucking idiots in our cities political area.

[@rosestewart1606]

R. Preskop I totally agree with this. Tourism helps corporations ie the companies that finance political campaigns. But the truth is the places that tourism thrives are the places where the local residents love to live. I can go to McDonald's at home...when I travel I want to eat at the places where the locals eat. if you don't have something different I'm not going to stop. Tourism projects are not sustainable even though they are the most expensive way to bring money into a city. And they usually displace long time residents to build them

[@alainarchambault2331]

Unfortunately, industrial trade industries are international. About the only thing a local municipality can hope to retain is whatever service industry that cannot be "outsourced". And every damned business would go wherever the "rent" is cheapest, where the confluence of services are the most efficient and where there's the greatest concentration of talent (e.g. Silicon Valley). About the only thing that Harrisburg may have is its history, and they are just not on the radar.

[@concertscoastersandnitro725]

an overly ambitious mayor that should have down research on things to help the city grow instead of pet projects

[@wanderingman8921]

Alain Archambault Low taxes and minimal regulations also help

[@jeremiahwilson1781]

Same situation as Flint and Detroit. Welcome to the new America

[@Davido50]

Jeremiah Wilson they are improving at least.

[@annemouse6788]

It's damned hard not to improve from third world conditions.... Detroit where the city bulldozes abandoned neighborhoods and calls it 'urban renewal!'

[@OldesouthFarm]

I was in Hersey, close to Harrisburg for awhile and was glad to get out of there in the late 90’s. Taxes for the air you breath and taxed for having a job, on top of income tax.

[@timgloeckler8636]

Dam right taxes are outrageous an you have to pay its a crime my grandfather pays 3000 dollars a year in property tax alone appauling

[@tomsinclair1264]

A western museum to put....Harrisburg, PA......on the map? Wow, that's just amazingly stupid. Is he still mayor?

[@ReinSouls]

Mayor Reed was voted out back in 2009. Unfortunately his replacement was equally as inept and subsequently got creamed in her reelection bid in 2013. The current Mayor is Mayor Papenfuse. He was able to win reelection back in 2017. Not the best in my opinion, but he's working with what he's got.

[@venictos]

@@ReinSouls thanks for the update

[@williammyers8574]

Having grown up in nearby Carlisle, Harrisburg is the anchor city of the region which includes all of South Central PA. It's a shame what has happened to the city! This is what you get when you have one political party in control with virtually no oversight! That said, the surrounding area includes some very affluent suburbs and nice middle class areas with excellent schools in which to raise a family. Carlisle, Mechanicsburg, and the boroughs and small towns which make up the West Shore, Hummelstown, and of course Hershey are great places to live!

[@shanthureddy4234]

i did live in Carlise ( by circle Drive / next to country club road ) , its a total dump ,

[@kimmiwertz6744]

I was born and raised in Carlisle (a block from the high school). Carlisle is and always has been a beautiful and vibrant place to live.

[@a.j.deutsch1792]

The city a hour above it (Scranton) I thought was bad. But it seems better than this. If taxes were lower in Scranton then I would see it having more companies come in. Same with Harrisburg. Scranton used to be a city with 150,000 residents. Now it's at 75,000.

[@KokNoker]

Reading PA reporting in. Scranton isn't doing well, but you're doing better than a lot of other cities in PA.....

[@archangele1]

I have found that when ever I hear "Democrat" or "Progressive" or "University Centric" it generally means high taxes and high crime.

[@jimgordon3468]

Only 8 years to get this into my recommended list. Nice

[@LoydAvenheart]

We really need to close alot of these monetary loopholes in government.

[@CarthagoMike]

And this is why municipalities and cities in many european countries are not allowed to have a negative yearly balance.

[@francois853]

Every nation on earth should have that as a law. You can always beg for help from your neighboring cities or states but getting into debt is a terrible idea.

[@Pumpkin3.14pi]

I think it's the rules here in Texas. I'm not 100% sure though.

[@Luppay131498]

Thank you for shedding some light on the plight of my hometown. It breaks my heart seeing and knowing how many people are struggling in our city.

[@walterglowacki2185]

Harrisburg is going the way of Camden N.J.!

[@wahlex841]

How did this guy stay in the office for 24 years again?

[@chieftp]

he promised gibs and dey kept voting for whoever gibs me da most free stuff

[@johnnyjameson3641]

He lives in a majority black city, and he is a democrat, so he gets automatically reelected every time he is up. He often runs unopposed, actually.

[@Gary4Liberty]

By buying votes.

[@menopassini9348]

Why did the voters keep re-electing him? His failures didn't happen overnite.

[@KokNoker]

Promises of gibs

[@thomaspevorus6079]

Probably mass voter fraud , voter intimidation, and corruption.

[@franks.389]

Because he was a Democrat

[@janetcarbone4213]

I was born and raised in PA. Left for work in Maryland. Worked for the state so I was familiar with Annapolis. Retired and moved back to PA. Went to Harrisburg on business and I couldn’t believe the difference between the two state capitals! I love PA but I’ve got to say I’m really disappointed with the caliber of the government officials as well as the efficacy of government on all levels. Sad

[@knucklehoagies]

I grew up in PA myself. It really speaks to the culture of the state really. PA always had this pro-status quo kind of culture. Lack of vision. Lack of innovation. Just this dreary, hopeless, "this is how it is" mindset. I used to drive out to harrisburg for work. Talk about a poor, dilapidated, depressing hell hole.

[@thedarkchild86]

Mayor Stephen Reed should be view this from a Federal Penitentiary.....Period !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@lisaharris2486]

emotionally unstable, the whole city!!!

[@robertj.simpson354]

Government entrepreneurialism?! Well that's a non sequitor if I ever rubbed up against one!!

[@merlinrakow3607]

The people all over this country need to stand up and get rid of all the corruption from the local level to the federal level.

[@canadabee]

I think Justin Trudeau tore a page out of this mayor's playbook.

[@dunzerkug]

Same thing is happening with St. Louis, MO. They keep wanting to build up their free museums and zoo by charging city income tax and raising property taxes against the county for it. Now they want to try and rejoin the county since it would allow them to off load some of their debts.

[@raygottschall9101]

Results of one party Democratic rule..

[@mattm597]

"After leaving office, Reed faced charges on nearly 500 counts of theft, fraud and corruption. He pled guilty to 20 charges and was sentenced to probation." ~Wikipedia

[@lescobrandumb9280]

I grew up in Harrisburg in the early 80's and it was a cesspool even back then.

[@bobbastion7335]

People/voters desperately need to be more discerning and informed. I can tell, just by looking at Mr Stephens photo, that I wouldn't trust him in a $hit house with a gun muzzle on it. The city is broke BUT the museum collection sits in a warehouse? That's some genius $hit right there.

[@TerryByrd17]

This is where I live lmao! I love it here and as long you don’t live in the city it’s really not that serious. Music is so moving lol.

[@williamm374]

I put it in my will to be buried in Pennsylvania when I die because I'd like to stay active in politics.

[@etherlords88]

Coming from California, working in PA temporarily, I'm surprised to experience how destroyed and jumbled up this state is! State tax is closer to CA but the quality of life is nowhere near to that... Everything is so Detroit!

[@BOLPutube]

etherlords88 Depends on where you’re at. A lot of places outside of Pittsburgh and Philly are very nice, but everywhere else has that run down and rustbelt-ish feel. State College in the rural center of the state is an exception.

[@99999myk]

I lived in Bethlehem/Allentown and it isn't Detroit, not in the least. Bethlehem is actually the 33rd most expensive place in America. We are only 80 or so miles from NYC so the rents are pretty high but there are no slums, no abandoned buildings. You must be in western PA where I never been. Living in CA now where you are taxed but you get it back in other ways. In PA you're taxed but community colleges are still unaffordable and 4 year colleges will put you in debt for 20 years.

[@vaughncrane8310]

PA isn't that bad.... Everyone here complains but honestly it's not that bad here. The larger cities are a mess. But honestly what large city isn't? The suburbs are just that suburbs. In western pa where the rust belt is is rundown. Towns like Mckeesport and Erie are a shadow of what they once were. But the town outlaying are nice and great to raise families. And in conclusion. This video was EXTREMELY biased

[@healthhavencom]

Liquidate the government. All of it. Let Freedom reign.

[@somedude9528]

+Max Freedom Yes, but then everyone would go batshit, and Mississippians would be burning down any small towns they could find north of the Carolinas.

[@1N73RC3P7OR]

But who will build the roads?

[@TheOldAmishMan]

Anarchy is just warlords ya dipshit. Gangland across all the cities, where 83% of people live. Dumbest shit I ever heard.

[@derrekmitchell1012]

When will people learn throwing money at issues will never resolve them

[@andrewnolan180]

While Mayor Reed was a huge contributing factor in the problem of Harrisburg, the bigger issue is the municipal structure of Pennsylvania. If you look at a map, Harrisburg City itself is an extremely small area. If you were to drive through what you would think is Harrisburg, you would assume you were in Harrisburg when in fact you would be in the boroughs of Paxton, Penbrook, Steelton, and a bunch more in Daulphin County. Over the river that runs through the middle of "town" is Cumberland County with a bunch more municipalities including Lemoyne, Wormleysburg, New Cumberland, Camp Hill and so on. Each of these boroughs pay for their own local services. There are over 2,500 municipalities in PA and over 700 school districts. The State office buildings, non-profits and churches together take up a large portion of the area of extremely small city of Harrisburg and their employees and visitors use the local police, local roads and so on, all at the expense of the city of Harrisburg. How is any city supposed to survive when the wealthier families can move a mile outside of the city and commute to work while the services that support them are funded by the few poor families that can't afford to move a mile away. There is no ability to spread the cost of supporting the city infrastructure to the people who use the infrastructure. The same problem exists for dozens of cities across Pennsylvania and most have never had a mayor like Mr. Reed.

[@andylucas8262]

Wow! I'm embarrassed to admit that I live in Pennsylvania.

[@kimmiwertz6744]

There are places here in PA. that are wonderful to live in. I live in So.Central PA.

[@cynthiaerickson3646]

You are looking at the outcome of america,every state,every city.this country's future is bleak

[@1978garfield]

Yes. As in yes Harrisburg is the future of the USA sadly.

[@blumobean]

If you can’t figure out the problem, then there is no hope for a solution. This city was founded in the late 1700’s. I have never been there (close to it) there has to be some beautiful homes and buildings. The things in short supply there are: people who are trained and want to work, a positive business climate, good education system and law and order. All the above describe Republicans not Democrats.

[@bobbastion7335]

"I don't see anything wrong with government being entrepreneurial" Jeebus. These are the people running the show.

[@CrapE_DM]

People rarely visit a city just to visit a museum. Museums are an additional thing to visit.

[@-CrimsoN-]

Not to mention the museums in Harrisburg aren't much worth visiting. If people are interested in stuff like Civil War history, then they'd just go and visit nearby Gettysburg. Yet, Harrisburg still spent an unnecessary amount of money on a silly National Civil War Museum.

[@zealotking67]

I've been down all of these streets and it is sad. Harrisburg is now becoming such a sketchy place and the Politicians control too much. We need new figure heads that have a plane

[@LoneHeckler]

If the mayor was legitimately elected, then it can't be his fault. You can't blame an idiot for acting like an idiot, but you can blame democracy. It's Harrisburg's fault not the fault of just one man

[@mikehunt3436]

Go to the Harrisburg wikipedia and smash that demographics link.