Is HE our new DCU Batman? - Major changes at DC Studios

[@swganimations]

They both have been saying no to this since 2023

[@userious258]

No they haven’t. Recently they haven’t shut it down. Matt just recently said “If they can make it make sense”

[@alihmaulaakmal]

​@@userious258i think you forget that matt also said " is important to me to tell the story that iwan to tell " so he okay robert join DCU After he finish his batman epic crime SAGA but the problem is Matt need to take long time to make his movie ,so i still think Robert will not be DCU Batman

[@sladeparker1980]

​@userious258 james gunn in past recorded interviews has said no. In unrecorded interviews he's said no. On fucking threads, he's said no.

[@nbamix3s254]

​@@alihmaulaakmalYa'll should really stop pushing this. Just let Matt Reeves have free creative control, he has his own universe, let him be.

[@atavious2491]

I think that whole announcement video James Gunn did back in January 31, 2023 isn't entirely set in stone and shouldn't be taken entirely as such. He didn't really tell us what the entire universe was going to be like but just a few projects that have already been greenlit from the point in time. It wasn't even the whole first phase that Gunn was talking about. Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters is still a mystery with not much to go off of. These current projects that have been announced don't seem to have any sense of progression or buildup to something like the MCU had. Not saying that's a bad thing but something to keep in mind. Gunn is and should be allowed to go back on his word if he feels he has to change some stuff that isn't working in the movies. Marvel already did some course correction. It's why Kang Dynasty is now being changed to Doomsday. Whether certain people like or hate these changes is a them issue for now. We just need to see the execution to make a proper judgement first.

[@mistersp3753]

Chaos Island's 7th Movement makes for such a great Superhero backdrop.

[@th_Wall_Boi]

I don't mind Elseworlds, and although Robert and David look great side by side, I don't mind two simultaneous Batmen. One for the serious and grounded reality and another for the sorta campy and fantastical "I have a plan for everything against the League"

[@WarpingFist]

I'm fully supportive of Battinson in the DCU. It's not likely that he'll be the DCU Batman, but if he is, it can work. They need to shift around some timelines though.

[@andraw4003]

Or instead of putting in the unnecessary effort to make it make sense, we could cast a new actor to play a comic accurate Batman? You people are almost like Snyder fans when praising Pattinson's Batman. It was just fine, other actors could have played him in that movie.

[@WarpingFist]

@andraw4003 dude, I was utterly respectful in my comment, and you came in with a passive-aggressive response. Maybe you take this stuff too seriously.

[@wizardlizard524]

​​@@WarpingFistHe definitely does. He replied to another comment here basically saying the same thing.

[@WarpingFist]

@ damm, some people really need to calm down.

[@nbamix3s254]

​@@WarpingFistdude you can't blame him. People like you (I know you're being respectful and you're not really pushing the agenda) have been pushing this agenda that Pattinson has to be the DCU Batman for I don't know how many months? Without thinking about how Matt Reeves can have free creative control with his own universe.

[@TheLsp2011]

Personally, I would love if they casted Jensen Ackles as Batman. He already has experience, voicing the character, and also happened to voice Jason Todd in under the red hood. Plus I actually think he kind of looks the part.

[@joemama-bv4mg]

Too old

[@LucasHopkins2006]

Unfortunately I think the guys nearing his fifties which isn’t great for a 10 year plan, if he was 10 years younger then yeah, he’d probably be my choice too but sadly it’s probably not gonna happen

[@Lunapink93]

The only way this would ever work. is there is A 17 year time jump. Creature Commandos has set A timeline and A tone with Gotham.

[@a-bomb777]

Bad idea, unless they make the The Batman films prequels that take place 20+ years before the events of Creature Commandos and Superman, I just can't see it fitting into the fantastical world Gunn is creating

[@NathanielNicholas]

Given Robert Pattinson's age of probably be more like 10 years

[@ItNotOkAnymore]

He’s a billionaire who dresses like a bat and immune to bullets but yeah that’s not fantastical enough. You keep forgetting this is still Batman no matter Matt reeves interpretation of it. It’s still a guy who dresses like a bat and fight crime at the end of the day. If it worked in the comics it can work in real life.

[@andraw4003]

​​@@ItNotOkAnymoreNot sure what your point is, it's still an inaccurate adaptation that was made by a director who thought "cobblepot" was too "unrealistic" of a name.

[@reverbedmovingmedia]

The only thing is it’s canon that the Batman is set in 2022

[@andraw4003]

​@reverbedmovingmediaExactly. I'm not sure why prople would think it would be more confusing to just cast a new actor.

[@oppenheimer6321]

In 2023 I would have thought it impossible for the two universes to merge, but now? We see how Gunn really meant when he said he wanted the DCU to be very diverse and preserve the filmmakers' vision, we have a Lantern series described as very grounded and real in the same universe as a Swamp Thing by James Mangold and Superman by Gunn and Sgt Rock by Luca Guadagnino.

[@oliversvoice4383]

Here’s the thing with Pattinson in the DCU… I don’t like the idea of his Batman being in that universe, due to the stylistic differences, but as you said, that’s not necessarily a bad thing given how different Gotham and Metropolis are. Plus, just because we’ve got a grounded ‘Crime Saga’ at the moment, bringing Pattinson’s Batman into the DCU would open the door to his Batman discovering and facing more supernatural/fantastical threats, and that could lead to a fascinating story from Bruce’s perspective. Ultimately, though, I just don’t see Robert Pattinson signing on to something like the DCU. I don’t know him personally, but he seems to be very selective with what he does (having done indie films post Twilight, with The Batman being his first film in the Hollywood system since) so the notion of joining a ever growing connected universe just doesn’t seem like something he’d jump at, doubly so if Reeves isn’t directing.

[@tebS23]

Robert Pattinson has gone on record in saying that he's willing to play Batman/Bruce Wayne for as long as WB allows him. And that he would love a kid Robin alongside his Batman as well.

[@BigWheel4ever]

Guys, I know that everyone asked for my opinion here it is. I say just scrap the older Batman idea. We just did it with Ben Affleck. The whole point of The Batman is that Batman must become a symbol of hope instead of vengeance, and hope is one of the words the most tied to this new Superman. It would be cool to see these two new heros rising and their different approaches to solving crime. Also, if we get this new Batman, it will be directed by Andy Muchetti, which after his latest interview, I don't want him to touch a DC character ever again, especially Batman.

[@nbamix3s254]

I'm pretty sure Gunn shot down the idea of a middle aged Batman. I'm pretty sure he just said that the Batman we will be seeing in the Brave and the Bold will be more experienced who's probably fought crime for over a decade. So I think he'll probably be 31 years old in the film or around that age.

[@Codenamejitzu-nn1np]

I really hope so, i really want robbert pattinson to be the dcu batman it could really work if the fans give it a chance, just cause the first movie was grounded doesn't mean they can't lean into fantasical stuff for his adventures in the future, Just look at the first Iron man movie, the Guy was fighting terroristes then ended up fighting thanos in space with spiderman and Dr strange and the guardians of the galaxy, so same for the batman they could really evolve his universe merge it with the dcu have him meat dcu superman and other dc superhero characters it would work, i feel like People say it's not gonna work because they don't want it to happen and not because it's not gonna actuelly work in terms of story, so yeh it's not like they stated in the batman that fantasical stuff don't excite so yeh his batman would be great next to dcu superman, it's Just perfect it's better then having two batmans at the same time on screen it would be very messy and you would feel like they are Just milking the hell out of batman

[@Blarmenify]

A reeves verse superman would be kinda rad. Power him down and have him punch landlords and corrupt officials like golden age supes.

[@jacksonjack7838]

I want a Bat Family. I like Battinson but I do not want him in the DCU

[@GunnJamesDC]

Bullshit.

[@ChannelPup]

Fuck. I've been caught in the act.

[@forgarate0648]

James Gunn, tell us right here right now please... is Patterson's Batman part of the main DCU, or is he an elseworlds? I'm pretty sure everyone is fricking tired of this crazy discussion and just wants answers.

[@tebS23]

Thank you for your commentary, random Fake James Gunn ™️ profile #382.

[@GunnJamesDC]

@@ChannelPup 🤣

[@burgerkingexpress7847]

To be a true DCU, the actor that plays Batman needs to look like the guy playing Superman

[@joeker5208]

4:27 my favorite Batman movie so far, but far from what I’d call “definitive”. Definitely missing a lot of development and themes to truly encompass everything that is core to both Batman and Bruce Wayne

[@Dread-VilePlanet]

I am actually interested in how you imagine Sam Raimi would direct a Batman trilogy? and please don't search up the Suicide Squad game's new cutscene also great video

[@Blarmenify]

I still think its possible given James Gunn's comments about how different characters can have wildly different tones while still being in the same universe. I just wish they'd hurry up. I need more batman in my life at all times lol. But im glad they be takin their time, i need good batman more than i need more batman.

[@jacksonjack7838]

They literally have said nothing but “hes not”

[@Optimegatrongodzilla]

The whole "it wouldn't make sense due to tone differences and the involvement of fantastical elements" mindset is very stupid because the comics & other DC media do it. The same goes for all superhero/supervillain/superantihero media. Any real fan of such media knows that the tone differs based on not only what character/group of characters is/are in question, but also what kind of story is being told. Batman(AKA Bruce Wayne) is a brooding, no-nonsense, & to-the-point person who only shows lighter aspects of his personality to those he has close relationships with, while Superman(AKA Clark Kent and Kal-El) is an upbeat & optimistic "boy scout". The whole "jumping around to different points in the timeline" thing that James Gunn is supposedly planning to do is another reason why the 'The Batman' film series & directly connected media can be retroactively established as taking place in the DC Gunnverse(I refuse to call it "the DC Universe" as that's too non-specific of a name for it). The 'The Batman' film series & directly connected media and the film 'Superman'[2025] could be established as taking place many years(preferably 20-something years) before the planned film that's being referred to as "The Brave And The Bold"(I *really* hope that they start calling it something else, like "Batman And Son" or "Batman And The 4th Robin"). Personally, unless they transition Matt Reeves's take on the Riddler(AKA Edward Nygma and Edward Nashton) to being more like how the character is traditionally portrayed and give him a proper Riddler outfit, and unless they replace the horrible depiction of the Joker shown in that deleted scene made for 'The Batman'[2022], I'd rather the 'The Batman' film series & directly connected media be set in their own universe. I also don't want the DC Gunnverse to have a blackwashed Jim Gordon, though if Barbara Gordon(who becomes Batgirl) were depicted as being of mixed race and didn't have brown skin, that would certainly be better than having a full-on "black" Barbara Gordon, but it would still be preferred for Jim and Barbara to be "white".

[@joeker5208]

You bring up wanting it to be a one-way streak when it comes to cameos, and that right there is why I don’t want this universes crossing over. I want to see a Batman that fully embraces the bright and colorful aspects of not just his mythos, but the whole DC universe. Not cower away and only appear in Justice League film or what have you. I want to see other DC characters sometimes appear in Gotham during a Batman story, like Flash, or Green Arrow, Black Canary, Superman, or Green Lantern. Show Bruce’s and other heroes’ place in a fully connected universe. Not segment them off for one very direct vision

[@sladeparker1980]

Actually they have said no, specifically james gunn, multiple FUCKING times

[@atavious2491]

If Matt Reeves Batman is going to join the DCU then I think a lot of changes or course corrections need to be adjusted before before Robert Pattinson joins the rest of the DCU cast. Matt may need to be cautious and frequently talk to Gunn with what he's doing on his end in terms of the in-universe narrative. I'm pretty sure Kevin Feige also does the same with his directors when crafting new film and television projects. Either Brave and The Bold gets scrapped in favor for another movie or that movie might be heavily altered to essentially be the Batman part 4. As for Talia Al Ghul and Damian Wayne, I don't know if they still want to do that story arc. Battinson is still relatively young and he doesn't come across as the older parental type to me just yet. I think the crime saga, maybe in another spin-off show they introduce Ra's Al Ghul. I don't know how Matt may want to adapt this character into his narrative. Depending whether or not if Matt is going to go in a semi-fantastical route with his future Batman projects, we might end up getting another grounded Ra's Al Ghul for prediction's sake. Just like in the Dark Knight trilogy where he's not immortal. Just a memory that mentality haunts Battinson in his future life decisions. Only this time he's being used just to introduce Talia later down the line. Pattinson will continue to get older and grow with the character and maybe eventually he continues to stay on into his 40s because he's currently 38 but still looks like he's in his 20s when he did the Batman (2022). I believe he was 22 when he first did Twilight and he was actually 17 when he was in HP and the Goblet of Fire. Point being I think it's still feesable that he can still be the DCU Batman. It's just that if Gunn wants to do the Bat family in this universe, Gunn and Reeves may need to be quick about and use Reeves Batman movies wisely into how it might affect other canon movies. Matt might needs to be very selective in what villain from Batman's rouges gallery to use and how to limit and/or challenge himself with how fantastical he can get. Because one thing that felt kind of off to me about the Dark Knight trilogy was how other-worldly Gotham city looked in Batman Begins but then gradually became Chicago or Wall Street come the other two installments. There was some visual inconsistency with that trilogy and at times I did not know what the original plan was for Batman Begins had it had a different outcome with a different direction. Which is why I'm at least glad that the Dark Knight wasn't canon to the DCEU because then it would've been a whole lot worse. So knowing that, even though there's plenty of evidence to show that it can happen with Pattinson joining the DCU, at the same time people neglect the contridictions that also arise and have already been made apparent in both the Penguin series and Creature Commandos.

[@Blarmenify]

I'm coming round to this idea more n more erday

[@supernerd5781]

Id be down for this but it's a question of if it feels cohesive and non disruptive

[@brantjustilian3791]

Every time I think of a wrestler playing Batman, I just imagine Dave Bautista playing Batman.

[@sermon3404]

No, Bautista should play Hugo Strange.

[@brantjustilian3791]

@ hey I thought that it was ridiculous for Dave Bautista to play Batman, then I watched In the Lost Lands teaser trailer. Plus he’s in the glass onion

[@thegreatspider-saiyan]

Hey pup, you'll never guess what came on tv at the same time I got the alert for this vid...doctor who love and monsters 👀👀

[@CartoonPostYT]

I agree with everything you said... I think what they should do is have the Matt Reeves Batman movies exclusive to streaming (like what they did with the Snyder cut), that way general audiences wouldn't get confused by there being two theatrical live action Batman trilogies going at the same time.

[@scr0ngle108]

Heavily disagree. It's meant to be on the big screen and its been consistently shown that a lot of people show up to anything batman despite being completely different universes

[@asura7915]

not happening

[@SomeP3nda]

I feel bad for Muschietti, dude could say anything and it get twisted to be something else. He pretty much said the studio spent way too much money on the film and expected everyone and their grandma to go see it, which just isn’t gonna be the case for a character like the Flash.

[@tebS23]

Honestly, Muschietti simply should've kept his mouth shut. Hollywood is a "You're only as good as your last project"/"What have you done for me lately?"-kinda town, for better or worse. The last film he directed was a one of the biggest flops in WB history, he is in no position to publicly speak on this at this juncture without backlash since he's still has yet to get his Batman movie officially greenlit. Regardless of who or what was at fault... at the end of the day, he chose to be the captain of that ship.

[@roguebritgravy1]

Is he still a horse? He may well have to be, this Batman's going to need the energy.

[@ChannelPup]

I realized too late that being a horse was key to truly embodying the Batman. That this gave him an edge over his human contemporaries.

[@LucasHopkins2006]

I stand by that I don’t think it makes sense. I would say this world is too realistic but admittedly we probably need more projects in the Reevesverse to definitively say that, but aside from being realistic, I just don’t think these movies are gonna line up well enough to work when Brave and the Bold is gonna have an established Batfamily and I don’t think going through the hassle of either changing B&tB to fit with The Batman and have to build up the Batfamily from the ground up (which admittedly might be coming from a place of bias cause I wanna see Nightwing and Red Hood on the big screen already) or out of nowhere have Batman suddenly aged up like 10 years or something in just his second movie maybe would be worth it so I just say let DCU Batman be entirely different, let him go up against some fantastical enemies like Ra’s Al Ghul with the Lazarus Pit, give him the blue and grey suit with white eyes, we’ve had enough black and grey or all black with no white eyes to last us a lifetime, just do it all without having to change Robert Pattinson’s Batman that drastically when I really don’t think it’s needed. And I don’t wanna hear from anyone “Oh, but it’d be weird and confusing for some people to have two different Batmen on the big screen”, news flash, a year after The Batman came out, The Flash brought back both Ben Affleck and Michael Keaton, if we can have 3 Batmen in the span on a year, two of which being in the same dang movie, Battinson can exist at the same time with DCU Batman especially with how different they’re gonna be, it’s fine, and if people are stupid enough to get confused about it then maybe they should go back to school or something and get their brainpower up

[@ItNotOkAnymore]

He’s still a billionaire who dresses like a bat and fights crime. He’s still Batman. If Batman (who started off super grounded in the comics hence why he had no powers) can team up with Superman in the comics it can work in any version of him in film including Matt reeves version.

[@Sonic-Rise-of-chaos]

If this rumour is true, would Robert Pattinson play 2 different versions of Batman?

[@The_ScarletSpider]

i agree

[@marcinsz1526]

Batman ruless❤😂🎉😮😅 10:25

[@cyl_genderfluid-furry]

I think Fortnite should bring back Lynx Kassandra mostly unedited if edited at all for the OG pass stuff when it comes around to that pass. Actually, you know what? Everyone should get the full tier skin for free, and variations should be what costs money and/or V-Bucks! I need that skin so bad, I would orally pleasure the entirety of Fortnite's staff within and/or over a year or two if it meant getting that skin and 3rd+ tier. Oh, wait, you must've wanted my thoughts on the DC stuff! Yeah, I can't get Lynx Kassandra's cyborg ninja cat aesthetic out of my head, and I absolutely need a skin like that. Skin-tight where fabric, but looks cybernetic where not, tail, paws, cat, etc. (Edit): Oh, and most importantly gynomorphic, but I felt that was implied because that kinda skin feels kinda neked and ferrall, and we all know how atrociously terrible Fortnite is about that with non-gyno skins.

[@EndYouTubeShorts_]

15:55 BIG OOF, HE IS SO WRONG. I woman, I care Flash

[@EndYouTubeShorts_]

Haven't seen the movie, I just like the animated guy in JL

[@andrescarnederes2295]

I think it'd be very interesting to see Pattinson's Gotham City evolve from the crime based city to a more fantastical Gotham. See the "freaks" take over. Concerning Marvel, I think the diversity of tones of their universe was what made it extremely succesful at the beginning. The reason it's failing now is because almost every single movie of theirs since 2021 is a comedy.

[@mixanderfigueroa3999]

I hope not. The Matt Reeves Batman universe should remain focused on a younger and more inexperienced Batman and the DCU should cast an older actor to play a more experienced Batman since they’re introducing Robin. I’m campaigning for either Alan Ritchson or Brandon Sklenar as DCU Batman.

[@cosmicreader1312]

You see what you said about you not wanting any of the DCU to crossover within the Batman movies it’s precisely why I don’t think Robert passion should be the Batman in the DCU. It doesn’t really have to happen all the time the Batman part 2 could still be a standalone Batman movie with no other heroes and now it still works fine in a cinematic universe but part of what makes a cinematic universe school. Is you never know who can show up anywhere. And I would not mind having David Cornwell flying into Gotham in a Batman movie. So not wanting that to happen makes me think then what’s the point?

[@TevyaSmolka]

Personally I would Robert Pattinson Batman away from James Gunn universe because well that Batman makes sense way more sense in his universe then James Gunn in my opinion.

[@Terioskintobor1975]

Matt Reeves Batman is too young to have Damian as a son through.

[@ColbyDash]

As others have said, a very big time jump between the "Epic Crime Saga" and Creature Commandos + Superman could fix that.

[@Lunapink93]

@@ColbyDashwould they really want to do A 16+ year time jump?

[@VermillionRed]

​@@ColbyDash how can it be a time jump The Batman canonically takes place in 2022

[@InvaderJoker]

@@VermillionRed By having the DCU take place in 2040. No year has been set for the DCU.

[@duskplains1235]

I really really don’t want Battinson in the dcu. I much prefer Battinson in his own elseworld story. I want more else world comic media

[@ulitmate2007]

Fireto

[@DF9000k]

Why does it translate to little boy 😭

[@TGOSE-v7y]

Robert Pattinson Is The New DCU Batman

[@ajkcoleman]

So you want him to be like Spider Man with Sony?

[@RJH755]

I always thought the idea that Battinson couldn't work in the DCU because he's too "grounded" to be pretty small minded, the whole point of these cinematic universes is seeing the world at both a street level and cosmic level and how the different tones of these individual franchises fit together... Think about how Guardians of the Galaxy once felt out of place tonally in the MCU, yet they made it work when they converged with the Avengers in Infinity War

[@nbamix3s254]

Also think about what Matt Reeves wants to do. If he wants to be his own thing then let him be his own thing.

[@dragonlord6484]

No. The Batman is too dark and grounded to include villains like Clayface, Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, and others, so it should not be the DCU's Batman. Plus, Pattinson's Batman is a lame Batman with a very bad Batsuit! I want a Batman that is more like the DCAU's Batman!

[@DaviTalks-q3o]

NO it would be terrible

[@Bren10thousand]

They actually did say no

[@magdos7160]

819th

[@Nintenguy128]

The biggest problem with this argument is that from a direction and tone standpoint, it really doesn't make sense for Pattinson to be the DCU Batman because The Batman universe is completely grounded whereas the DCU is a totally fantastical universe where there's more flashy comic book-y action, and actual supervillains across the board than grounded villains like The Batman universe focuses on. Putting Pattinson's Batman in the DCU would be not only so jarring, but also incoherent because of what the DCU is all about, on top of Robert Pattinson himself not really having the physicality that a fantastical Batman needs to be to make it make sense in a universe where there's many super powered villains and cosmic world ending threats, and all kinds of crazy flashy stories.

[@forgarate0648]

The grounded setting of The Batman would never work with the rest of the DCU. I have the feeling that Reeves and Gunn are just screwing with everyone and when the DCU Batman is officially announced, all the people believing that they'll merge will just feel really stupid. We absolutely need a proper fantastical take on Batman and his world.

[@CC-zw9ku]

They’ve been saying no for fucking ages?

[@Fleeskii]

No