I'm Glad the Snyderverse is Dead

I don't hate Zack Snyder. I've never met him, I'm sure he's a nice bloke, but I do hate his movies. I know that starts me off in a biassed way, but I think there's a lot to criticise about his DC Snyderverse, and there's a lot of reasons why this disaster won't be continuing. Join me as I inevitably make some people mad talking about something I've wanted to talk about for quite a while now. Cue the comments telling me that I don't understand Zack's genius and saying the Snyderverse should be restored.
Also if you're wondering why all the clips are so short and it seems a little choppy, I'm afraid you'll have to blame a certain studio that shall not be named. I had to re-edit and re-upload this video to make sure y'all could actually watch it. Thanks for watching! #rejectthesnyderverse
Timecodes:
0:00 Intro
5:25 Man of Steel
15:22 Batman vs Superman
33:36 Zack Snyder's Justice League
52:04 Reject the Snyderverse and Conclusion

[@KertaDrake]

Where Batman is Lex Luthor, Lex Luthor is the Joker, Jonathan Kent is suicidal, and Superman is an impossibly bland mass-murderer.

[@MarvinPowell1]

And Wonder Woman is a 110 pound model who cant act and has a bad accent, despite living in America for over 100 years. Oh, and Aquaman is a dude-bro. (Which would've been acceptable if they didn't name him Arthur Curry.)

[@littlebabymice1970]

And they de-powered Wonder Woman

[@christofthedead]

Jonathan Kent's philosophy is inspired by Ayn Rand, who Snyder was a fanboy of at the time. I wouldn't recommend it, it's as badly written as you'd expect.

[@mrcritical6751]

@@MarvinPowell1it would have been worse than that with WW. Snyder originally had that wartime picture Bruce finds of her in BvS be her in The Crimean War holding a load of decapitated heads

[@gustavoh.70]

Jon Kent could not tech that shit

[@briansmith1288]

Playing Lex Luthor like a used car salesman is certainly a choice.

[@amiablereaper]

Also this is a nitpick but I think Luthor should just. Be bald. It doesn't have to be a trauma thing or some big event his personality simply leads him to the decision to remove every hair from his head before he appears on screen and it's not some weird character moment.

[@outrider8569]

One all the choices it really is one of them

[@stephenwonghongweng4298]

@@amiablereaper Lex Luthor just suffers from male pattern hair loss

[@gloomy_gus]

@@stephenwonghongweng4298Yeah, there's no need to come up with a dramatic reason for Lex Luthor to be bald. We don't need a bald origin story. Some dudes are just bald, it's not that interesting.

[@13thcentury]

​@amiablereaper gene Hackman had wigs. Kevin spacey had wigs. Dude in Adventures had hair. At least Lex eventually went bald.

[@2ndspringtube708]

To me ,Snyder films has always been the best example of darkness doesn’t equal good ,just because it’s dark doesn’t mean it’s better then a colourful light hearted done right film

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, Because Snyderverse is way better than Gunn’s DCU Bullshit. #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@drakkenmensch]

His style is visually like an Xbox 360 military FPS from the early 2010's: everything is brown and gray.

[@Dikbeeg]

Hack snyder and his fans are still at 12 yr old mentality

[@orhanamin1347]

@@Dikbeeg No It’s Not, You Snyder Cultist Hack!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@orhanamin1347]

@@Dikbeeg Oh Shut Up, Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@jjeteuati264]

4 hours was definitely not the original cut. If Snyder finished the film as planned, he would've made a 2 and a half hour movie. it is clear that once the fans heard there was 4 hours of footage, Snyder jumped on the band wagon to put more slo mo

[@vonastronomia9298]

snyder in context has stated that he made it into 4 hours because he treated it as a streaming movie. plus the original plant for the snydercut release was to be somewhat of a mini series style

[@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731]

Your point? Everyone knew that. Snyder said so. He had several cuts. The cut that aired was to be shown in 4 chapters. You know you added nothing to the conversation that wasn't known, directly from the Director's mouth. I get it you don't like his vision. Fine. Others did. Let them be. Good luck with Gunn. Funny Suicide Squad doesn't get the same hate, and that movie, though I was entertained, when you watch it... it was a ridiculous film. Funny ... you guys never dissect that. Especially a full frontal that was absolutely not needed but only there to body shame the actor. But not a nitpick of that illogical film.

[@seyio1717]

​@@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731 Snyder bot

[@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731]

@seyio1717 no.... an Adult. Children call ppl names young one. Or perhaps you had nothing to directly address my response. But no Snder"bot" or whatever that means. Just a grown up that doesn't live in echo chambers. I get it, we are hard to find online, but you've met one. Nice to meet you.

[@ichigokurosaki1081]

​@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731 well the SS that Gunn did was an actual good movie unlike the first one. Maybe that's why

[@FolstrimHori]

Someone needs to ask Zack Snyder how it feels to have his multi-million dollar destruction porn series be outclassed by a cartoon series that came out over a decade ago.

[@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731]

Out classed ? TF, are you talking about? He left 7 years ago. Dude, how old are you? If you guys hate it so much, why you can't keep Snyder's name out your mouth and talk more about what you like? The man lost his daughter and you guys seemed to have lost your minds along with your sense of decency (if you ever had any) by saying the same thing over and over again. FYI if Superman had existed, his fights would looked like that which was the point, and why in BVS the topic of Superman existence and help, just like in the real world he would've been an issue. If Superman interfered, he'd be an enemy of the US. The same guy you cried "didn't smile, or save anyone- which he did, in the real world would not save everyone, and his fights would level the city as it did in comics.

[@starryeyes999]

@@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731 for the love of god stop abusing your enter button

[@feliciasteward777]

​@@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731 no one ever said they hated Zack Snyder people have a right to voice how they feel about those movies and let's be real his DC movies were absolute trash no matter how much people want to keep trying to defend these movies and make excuses for them they were not great at all they were the complete opposite of what people wanted to see from these characters Zack Snyder is a prime example of when did raptors don't have a clear understanding of these characters and the source material that they came from I mean what's not forget that Zack Snyder wanted to try to kill off Lois Lane in Batman versus Superman which would have been stupid and completely would have made no sense at all because Lois Lane is a very important character in The lore of Superman if not just as important as Superman is yeah so doesn't even have a clear understanding of Batman either but this isn't to say that he's the only director that's guilty of this Brian singer is another one that's guilty of this as well their stories they've come out over the years about him not allowing the cast to read any of the X-Men comics when they were making the first X-Men film this is a huge problem with people like Zack Snyder and others who don't have a clear understanding of these characters it's not that hard to make things accurate to the source material that's all fans want and then they wonder why these movies get the criticism that they get because they refuse to give fans what they want to see when it comes to these characters if fans with their own independence studios can put together fan films that are accurate to the source material then why the hell can't these directors and writers do the exact same thing?

[@callmejacob3234]

@@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731 Tyler Hoechlin's Superman is what Superman would be like if he was real. Snyder's Superman is flat out awful he has zero personality. Watching paint fry is more interesting than Snyder's Superman. Zack Snyder is a terrible storyteller and I'm glad he's done with DC. His films were terrible. Superman isn't a realistic character but he has realistic ideals. His pure and uncorrupted optimism is what humanity should stride towards. That's the whole point of Superman. He's hopeful and optimistic in a dark world. He brings hope to those that desperately need it. He's not an emotionless robot like Snyder's version. Snyder's Superman is a disgrace to the character. It's more disrespectful than Frank Miller's version. Superman vs the Elite is a brilliant film. It's basically Superman vs Zack Snyder. I highly recommend it.

[@brewmaster2912]

@@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731you lost your sense of decency the moment you brought up Snyder’s daughter as an excuse to not criticize his storytelling. It’s sad that his daughter died, no one deserves to go through that. And the fact that the Snyderverse movement managed to raise so much money for Suicide Prevention is a genuinely great accomplishment that deserves to be remembered and celebrated. But that has absolutely nothing to do with his awful storytelling.

[@cosmic2750]

We need to stop giving Superman to directors who hate Superman. Superman isn’t dark. The story can be dark and gritty, but Superman’s character CANNOT, under any circumstances, be dark and gritty. Superman is joyous, cheerful, and compassionate. Even in that “all or nothing” scene with General Zod Superman would’ve found a way to neutralize Zod without killing him. Because that’s who Superman is. This is the reason why Tyler Hoechlin is my favorite version of Superman, because despite all the difficulties and darkness, Superman remains cheerful and compassionate. Sad thing is, Henry Cavill would make the PERFECT proper Superman. Just look at him in interviews. He’s more Superman in real life than he is in Snyder’s films.

[@Hadar1991]

What you don't understand Man of Steel was not portraying a Superman. It was meant as a trilogy where Clark Kent/Kal El becomes a Superman in second or third movie. There is a reason why this film is not called Superman. But between Man of Steel and Man of Steel 2 (which never happened) Warner Bros realized that they need a shared universe, now! So Snyder got a task to created a shared universe with based on a movie that was planed as stand alone trilogy about some Alien becoming Superman. So not in Man of Steel, not in BvS and maybe not in ZSJL (with possible exception for the last scene) we see Superman. We just see an alien in Superman costume, who is on his journey to become Superman (or at least was before Warned Bros decided to trow at him shared universe).

[@shiroamakusa8075]

@@Hadar1991 That's nonsense. Superman is supposed to be the way he is because he was raised by loving parents who instilled him with those values. In the Snyderverse he was raised by miserable, self-loathing d-bags who were embarassed at their son having so much power and tried to browbeat him into accepting "normalcy" with psychological torment so they wouldn't have to feel so inadequate. You know, because "dark" and "gritty". This is how you create a Homelander not a Superman.

[@Hadar1991]

@@shiroamakusa8075 To be absolutely honest I never understood why so many people has problem with how MoS was raised, but maybe because I am not American. But from my perspective Clark was raised by loving and responsible parents, but also reasonable ones, because let's be realistic - if Clark ever publicly manifested his abilities as a child, he would be forcefully taken by the government and studied as a rat in some underground bunker.

[@shiroamakusa8075]

@@Hadar1991 Sorry, but loving parents do not decide to torment their children by deliberately saddling them with guilt for their suicide. This is actually a prime marker for narcissism.

[@mrcritical6751]

@@shiroamakusa8075loving parents also don’t guilt trip their kid by saying “maybe you should have let those kids die” like an actual loving parent would have told that mother to shut the hell up and be grateful that Clark saved her kid

[@shnugle4514]

It’s crazy that the dceu continuity got so muddled that we have to refer to things like “the snyderverse” just to know what part of the continuity we’re talking about

[@LeadMetal82]

Nah, if you want something TRULY muddled, it's the X-men.

[@richborn6700]

Ironically having multiple timelines, confusing continuity, and retconning past events for new stories is about as X-Men as it gets ​@@LeadMetal82

[@Dru2037]

​@@LeadMetal82 yeah they did the Phoenix story twice

[@MarvinPowell1]

The main DCEU ("Synderverse") The CW Universe ("Arrowverse") The James Gunn DC Universe The Superman and Lois Universe Joker Universe The Batman Universe Gotham Universe Titans Universe Doom Patrol Universe Krypton Universe Warner Bros Animated DC Universe (not the DCAU) The DCAU (Batman the Animated Series to Justice League Unlimited) And I'm sure there's more I forgot.

[@haydentcem]

@@MarvinPowell1Burtonverse, Schumacherverse, Donnerverse, Nolanverse, Dozierverse, Matsudaverse, and more

[@lordmontymord8701]

"Is there anything Zack won't slow down for dramatic effect?" Well after Rebel Moon we can cross harvesting from the list. I wonder what he will give us next? Someone shitting in slo-mo? Would at least be the perfect representation of his last masterpieces ...

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@stevenclubb7718]

I can't remember the movie (The Big Hit maybe) where the director talked about how John Woo told him to chill on the slow-motion... and when John Woo tells you're overdoing slo-mo, you listen.

[@lordmontymord8701]

@@stevenclubb7718 The funny thing about Snyder is that he still says in interviews he isn't doing that much slo-mo. And i think he might really believe this is true. Just like he thinks using a broken camera lens is a good idea.

[@wompastompa3692]

"This ain't your grandpa's Superman." Shame, pappy had it good.

[@robkrol2137]

Zack Snyder read Watchmen without understanding the point of Watchmen and decided that's how all Superheroes should be. . .

[@xxxtrainstation1049]

Better than the hbo show

[@NebLleb]

@@xxxtrainstation1049 True, true. Besides. The original Watchmen comic was intended by Alan Moore (before he went banana-balls) as a "pick your side" scenario, and I'm not surprised that he and the film's writers chose to side with Rorschach when they adapted it (though I think siding with Dr. Manhattan is the best choice, personally).

[@amberbaum4079]

@@NebLleb @robkrol2137 That's because Znyder has a super boner for superhumans and edgy stuff. He loves them and doesn't give a rat's ass about "normie" humans. "Who watches the watchers" totally flew over his head.

[@dorianleakey]

@@NebLleb in what way did Moore go bananna balls? what is he saying that is so wrong? Frank Miller is literally a fascist, and the real problem with snyders interpretation of these characters, and you call Moore banana balls???

[@THESERIOUSKNOB]

@@xxxtrainstation1049 The HBO show actually does a great job at adapting the source material while building off of it in a natural way. It's the last episode or 2 that kinda lost me though

[@isabellagreen7436]

look, all I want is for superman to feel like superman again, I'm tired of ultra-dictators.

[@diegomedina9637]

Yeah... Injustice kinda f*cked the character up for like a decade.

[@freman007]

My Adventures with Superman is actually pretty good. They got the character of Superman, which is the most important thing.

[@LadyDoomsinger]

@@diegomedina9637 Wasn't Injustice's fault. It was idiot writers missing the point and premise of Injustice. The whole idea behind Injustice was a "what if" scenario. What if you took Superman, and removed his defining quality as a hero (restraint/self-control)? What would a Superman gone rogue look like? It was never supposed to be a "dark" superman or a "gritty" adaptation - it was a thought experiment (and excuse to have heroes fight each other in a video game).

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

I honestly feel when it comes to the Snyder cultists... they're not fans. To me, their insistence that WB continues this universe or that Snyder should keep working on it is to basically want the man to suffer. Snyder has made it clear how much of a tiring, stressful experience it was working on the DC movies and for WB just in general, the same company who prior to Matt Reeves being hired for The Batman apparently in one attempt to nab him for the director role had a meeting with executives end in a shouting match. The same company who told Joss Whedon he had only a few months to reshoot JL and would not give him more time since they wanted that holiday release and that would interfere with monetary bonuses. Honestly, who in the FUCK would ever want to work under those conditions? If they were fans of Snyder as in actual fans of the man? I'd think they'd want to support Snyder in his other projects, encourage him to do what will make him happy and be fulfilling. I didn't like Rebel Moon but honestly I could tell from watching it he was in a MUCH better place seemingly working on it and Army of the Dead. With ZSJL? I really got the feeling he was happy to get his vision out there and payday and was glad to know as soon as this was over, he'd never have to work for that company ever again. And for those who are fans or insist this universe is dark and mature? Without knocking those who do genuinely love the movies, this kind of thinking reeks of insecurity. It's like the reaction to that Adi Shankar "Power/Rangers" thing which was made as a parody of dark reboots by a non-fan and yet it was viewed by people who weren't PR fans as being what the franchise should do or people reverting to how they are in high school because someone called what they liked just childish nonsense and so they want to stick it to those guys with these movies so they can point to them and go "You see?! They are dark and mature. I was right!".

[@TommyLaoGanMa]

The ironic part is that by trying so hard to be "mature" the Snyderverse comes across as the exact opposite. It's the kind of shit that an angry teenager would write about and claim is the most hardcore thing to ever happen actually bro!! It exudes CoD lobby energy and smells of Mtn Dew.

[@mrcritical6751]

I honestly think it’s more them caring about the art more than the artist. They love Zack’s work but they give no craps about him as a person or just outright ignore him if he does something that doesn’t fit their narrative. They constantly crap on James Gunn despite Zack having nothing but good things to say about him and being generally supportive of Gunn’s vision for DC, heck they constantly defame Gunn by bringing up the old risqué tweets he made, whilst ignoring the fact that Gunn helped Zack set up Snyder-con, Zack showed that Gunn provided him with an IMAX copy of The Suicide Squad to test the sound and picture with and thanked Gunn on his social media for it calling it a great movie. Yes Snyder’s fans ignore this and constantly act like they are enemies and that TSS was bad despite the fact that Snyder and Gunn get along and Snyder likes the movie they love to crap in

[@jsc315]

What you're talking about are people who are emotionally stunted, similar to the basement gamer type, they like to only make everything about them and their weird identity with this movie and they can't move on from that. It's just sad.

[@jsc315]

​@@mrcritical6751no these are the MRA cultists. These kinds of people are essentially toxic masculinity at is most stupid

[@benjamingomez1761]

A DC universe that was based on the dissrespect to Superman was doomed since the beginning, and Im glad its over.

[@orhanamin1347]

Or not, Because Gunn’s DCU is Already Disaster, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@channe3049]

​@@orhanamin1347😂

[@benpage11]

Oh you mean the new Gunn movie

[@orhanamin1347]

@@benpage11 Yep, It’s Gonna Be Disaster Because for Snyder Fans, Ya Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@brendanwoods7278]

Doomsday Clock had a lot of neat ideas in it, wish it came out on a better schedule, but one of the messages I take from it is your point exactly. Superman being as grim as Batman, lacking that Hope and Compassion at a deep enough level, leaves the DC Universe a hollow place.

[@insectostrich4407]

This is how I would’ve written some of Man of Steel’s scenes. Instead of Clark’s dad shaming him for revealing his powers to save those kids it should’ve been Clark shaming himself and it’s his dad who says “what were you supposed to do? Just let them die?”. In his battle with Zod we should’ve seen Clark try to save people while also fighting him off. Then, Zod does the laser beam thing, but this time he’s torching the whole city and Clark tries everything in his power to move him or block his vision, but nothing works. So, his only option is to snap his neck and after that we see how torn up about it he is.

[@B1gBoyPants]

Yeah, it would have worked if we saw him trying to get Zod out of the city, but Zod wanted to cause as much destruction as possible to punish Superman.

[@insectostrich4407]

@@B1gBoyPantsExactly! I’m glad you agree.

[@eliesh3833]

Both of the ideas that you have are so much better than what he got in the real movie. I especially like the first one, because not only does it make Clark's father actually sound caring and even encouraging, but it sets up Clark's hero arc and gives him an actual reason to want to keep saving others. His one true motivation as Superman is a question that he asks himself based on that one alternative line you suggested for his father. "Are you going to just let them d!e?"

[@insectostrich4407]

@@eliesh3833 EXACTLY!😃 Thank you. That’s what I’m talking about. I get that they were trying to establish that this world might not be ready for superman and his dad was trying to say that he doesn’t have all the answers, but the way it was handled just made him look like an uncaring, control freak.

[@veronica-mew]

It's crazy how just changing 2 things would have made the movie so much better. It still wouldn't have been great (imo), but this would have fixed Clark's character arc for sure.

[@gloriouslysarcastic8000]

Flash and luthor were cast by the worst idiots I could have possibly imagined.

[@Martin_TheCollector]

YES

[@Hadar1991]

Luthor was cast as Luthor from Superman Birthright and this is probably the most comic accurate portrayal in all of DCEU. But we are talking about Luthor from Superman Birthright, not from other comics.

[@dorianleakey]

@@Hadar1991 The actor was doing an impression of Max Landis.

[@orionhan2431]

I have always said, Snyder accidentally created INJUSTICE Superman. The only acceptable ending to DCEU would have been the real Superman coming from the real earth and defeating this evil snyder superman

[@Hadar1991]

What people don't understand is that there is no Superman in DCEU. Snyder meant to create trilogy of Man of Steel films, where an alien in a suit with superpowers realizes what does it mean to be a Superman. So Henry Cavill is playing NotSupermanYet. And between MoS and MoS2 the studio realized they want to have shared universe like Marvel and told Snyder to created one based on the first Man of Steel. So he was stuck with a hero who does not yet understand what to mean to be Superman, so he decided it to contracts it with a Batman who is not Batman anymore. But this went over most people head, that BvS is NotSupermanYet vs NotBatmanAnymore and he wanted to both to realize what it means to Superman (for the first time) and Batman (again).

[@conspiracypanda1200]

​@@Hadar1991I don't like the idea of "Superman is too alien to be Superman yet" because he's literally raised as a human by human parents amongst human peers and with human values. He even looks like a perfect human! Aside from the powers, how alien is he really? And why, when he has been raised this way for his entire life, should he ever have "alien" behaviours? He could feel like an outsider, sure, but more in the sense of someone with an immigrant background. The way he behaves in the MoS film is just so bizarrely disconnected from his actual human past, as if he hasn't been living on the Planet Earth from age

[@Hadar1991]

@@conspiracypanda1200 But being Superman is not just being human. Being Superman requires many psychological attributes beyond just being human.

[@osirisatot19]

Except Injustice understands that a Superman that kills people is bad, Zack does not.

[@InteriorCrocodileAlligator86]

The fact that Snyder thinks having Batman shoot people in a situation where he's forced to shoot people makes me question what degree of faith there was in these films. Like, he's literally the guy that put the Detective in DC's name, known for wits that rival the likes of Sherlock Holmes...and you think he should risk being seen as no better than any common crook he's faced let alone the man who shot his parents? Good on you for letting your vision be realized and sorry about your loss, but you're kind of a dummy.

[@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731]

Degree of Faith? It was in the Dark Knight comic. The source cited for the film.

[@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731]

​@Walke-ts Batman "shooting with reckless abandoned henchmen?" Gross oversimplification.... or we literally didn't watch the same film. What I saw was henchmen shooting recklessly at Batman in the streets, and Batman fires back and puts them down." Also further context, from source material and lore, thus was a Batman with about 20-25 years of experience fighting Gotham criminals.This was the same Batman that lost his adopted son to the Joker. Not only this being in the actual comics but it's literally said in the film, and depicted more than once, as why Batman was so brutal. I mean... it's in the context of the film. Judge the film for what it presented not watch you wish to have projected, which sounds like it damn near ever "Snyder hater and h@te group" seems to do. Btw... he hasn't shot a film for DC in over 7 years.... relax. You've got "full frontal Gunn." Good luck with that.

[@BingeGamer69]

@@theflickspicksnthenitpicks3731 Snyder literally said he did it because he was told not to for one. And for two Batman doesn't kill it's dumb when he does the dark knight rises had the message Batman doesn't need guns.

[@ii-mp1sp]

Dude, are you aware that Batman kills in every film adaptation and TV series? And Superman killed Zod in "Superman 2".

[@BingeGamer69]

@@ii-mp1sp You do know Batman only kills in a few right? And technically Superman didn't they planned on bringing Zod back before the superman at the time broke his back.

[@Silas_Kow]

What? You think Snyder's style is ugly... Me too, god I thought that I was the only one

[@joshevertonyt]

I'm so not the target audience clearly, but yeah I find it grating and hard to wqtch

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

​@@joshevertonytsnyder really didn't appreciate the characters one bit. He made a film for himself mostly all his films are like that it's for him not the audience!

[@darthva31]

I thought I'm the only one too. I hate how his movies are so colorless for such a colorful universe. Even if there are colors, it felt as if they're trying to wash it all away. The good thing is it encouraged me to go outside.

[@bloodlinefilms]

snyder needs to never touch the writing end of things. 300 and Watchmen were both fine. however the cliches and tropes of his style he tim burtoned himself in literally less than half the time by doubling down on his indulgences with every movie. im still a fan of his work but it is trying sometimes to not drill holes in your own head wondering by this superfluous moment is in super closeup super slo motion.

[@Soldier-Boy1954]

​@@darthva31DC is meant to be colorful fantasy world full of serious and sometimes bit goofy stories, not die hard dark gory serious visual for every single character...

[@arx3516]

The bigesst flaw of BvS is that it doesn't inclued a scen of Jesse Eisenberg pissing into a jar.

[@orhanamin1347]

Facts!!!

[@joshevertonyt]

Really would have given it an arthouse vibe

[@jsc315]

The piss jars are iconic

[@orhanamin1347]

@@jsc315 About That. #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@callmejacob3234]

DC Animation solos DC Live Action. Every DC fan knows this.

[@camerondalton1495]

Maybe not the recent stuff.

[@brayansolis2214]

Disagree

[@lapislazuli5035]

Eh.

[@w00master]

@@brayansolis2214you can disagree but he’s 100% right. Synderverse was dogshit.

[@brayansolis2214]

@@w00master that’s an opinion not a fact

[@Battfro]

I am 17 minutes in and I want to point something out that further gets acrows how little Zack Synder gets these characters. Superman is a child whisked away by his parents to another land in a ship. He is raised in another land and goes to the city to save the people. He was written by two Jewish writers. HE. 👏 IS. 👏 A. 👏 MOSES. 👏 ALLEGORY. 👏 It is unbelievable how much Zack assumes he's Jesus when he is supposed to be Moses, who is one of the most important prophets in Judaism.

[@NebLleb]

Oh, so that's why Superman: The Movie will always be the best film of the character: It understands that Superman is Moses and that his father Jor-El is God. Or something....

[@J-manli]

@@NebLleb While I’m not the most adept at theology, the biggest thing that differentiates Moses and Jesus is that Moses is still human with flaws and shortcomings while Jesus being part god himself is flawless and sinless. Remember, Superman views himself as Clark Kent first, Superman second. He views himself as a human (flaws and all) with kryptonian powers. Snyder’s Superman rarely touches upon Clark’s humanity.

[@RenegadeSparks]

there's a bit of that there but as someone who's part jewish who reads up a lot on her own people's mythology, he's sort of more of a modern interpretation of the golem. Not saying the moses allegory isn't there or that it's wrong, but he's got more than just Moses

[@Quackervoltz]

Ohhhhh that's not something I picked up on

[@odinson2273]

He cannot for the life of him drop the Christian allegories. It's like he has to include them or he'll just combust and they get worse and worse.

[@FC_mania]

My biggest problem with Man of Steel is that i dont think theres a single scene where young Clark is smiling or happy. If you want to deconstruct the Superman character, fine, but this is supposed to be the definitive 21st century blockbuster take on the character, and he's constantly getting bullied, told that people will fear him, and that he should hold back on saving lives. I'm sorry, this sounds like an origin for Brightburn or Homelander, not *THE DC superhero.*

[@smartalex22]

There is one scene. When he's flying for the first time - Clark's got that big grin on his face. Other than that, though? You're right.

[@Hadar1991]

To be honest as Eastern European I did not notice anything wrong with how Clark was being raise up. I would even say that he had very thoughtful and caring father. And while we don't smile very often we definitely are not Brightburns and Homelanders. :D

[@smartalex22]

@@Hadar1991 That's really interesting! I appreciate the alternative perspective. :)

[@LostSoulSilver]

Good. The DCEU ruined the public perception of my favorite character. They keep trying so hard to turn Superman into a grimdark Batman like. He is NOT Batman

[@orhanamin1347]

Nobody Cares, Because DCEU Will live on with Snyderverse, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #DontRejectTheSnyderverse #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@LOKBLUDOM3N]

Nor is he a power hungry dictator.

[@Hadar1991]

What goes over most people head is that there is no Superman in DCEU. Snyder is criticized for over-exposition and don't trusting that viewers will understand the message, but still, the main motif of the franchise, goes over so many heads. That alien in Superman suit, is not Superman yet, he is on his journey to understand what means to be Superman (which was meant to realize in Man of Steel 3, before WB told Snyder to create a multiverse after he shot the first Man of Steel). On the other hand, that man in Batman suit is not Batman anymore. He once was Batman, but after 2 decades of fighting monsters he became a monster himself and is lacking his humanity, he lack all the attributes that made him Batman in the past. Not he is just vengeful monster-fighting monster, who once was Batman.

[@conspiracypanda1200]

I just don't trust live action heroes anymore. Almost every animated film or cartoon does it better. The MCU had the magic formula for a while, but quickly stopped taking themselves seriously and cutting corners for profit, rushing their employees to make everything feel the same with shallow "meta" humour instead of developing and highlighting the different feel of each hero and their unique teams. I just want my heroes to be heroic and stand, unironically and honestly, in the face of dire circumstances and actually inspire us by the end. Superman is supposed to be no.1 at that. Inspiring hope in others is basically his whole thing!

[@Syfcobra8549]

Injustice and Snyder trash movies ruined the perception of my hero Superman! Hate those 2 projects

[@lincolnshirepoacher9390]

Hundreds of thousands of bots* tweeting

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

looks more like five bots tweeting a couple of dozen times ;) Even their spamming is lazy :D

[@luiseduardomurillomartinez]

That is defamation. You have no evidence to affirm that this is real.

[@robbiejay1646]

tbf the fans did raise a lot of money for charity, that wasn't bots.

[@Moony1568]

@@luiseduardomurillomartinez Defamation? lol bro what

[@13thcentury]

The DCEU haters? Agreed

[@VictoryArtz]

I am a Comic Book Nut, I can accept the fact that there are other versions of beloved superheoes. I don't hate Snyder as a person, he seems like a decent guy, but I despise his DC Movies and movies in general, they are FUGLY to look at, his stories do not make an ounce of sense, and more importantly the movies are insulting to specific fanbases.

[@orhanamin1347]

Nobody Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@JIMT412]

Yes, this. I personally don't hate Snyder and I'm sorry for his lose and hope God is there for him, but man his stand alone work is so messy that you barely know what's going on. A modern example of this is Rebel Moon, it had interesting ideas even if takes them from other genres (basically like Warhammer40k) but the execution left more to be desired.

[@luiseduardomurillomartinez]

So you blame him on your |lmited ability to understand? Is that also how you criticize Christopher Nolan for not understanding one of his films? For the three films he directed at DC he almost explained things with apples. What you do not understand?

[@JIMT412]

@@luiseduardomurillomartinez Is not just what is explained but also how it's explain, the trilogy didn't do it well.

[@VictoryArtz]

@@luiseduardomurillomartinez I don't blame the guy for having a vision it's how he chooses to execute that vision. You can like Snyder's movies all you want, I have no problem for you to like them, but for me I don't see it.

[@KassFireborn]

Listening to people dissect these films for flaws has become a genuine hobby for me and I probably need a better one.

[@nugget3327]

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies >>>> Batman Vs Superman Never vibed with the Snyderverse It’s all spectacle and I never liked the concept of pitting Supes and Batman each other, them being a duo is so much more entertaining.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

A combination of Public Enemies and the World's Finest 3 part episode from Superman TAS is what they should've done instead.

[@callmejacob3234]

A man of culture

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@callmejacob3234 🍻here, here

[@ChucNguyen-yb4bq]

​@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpWhat's Superman TAS?

[@brewmaster2912]

@@ChucNguyen-yb4bqSuperman the Animated Series. It’s part of the DC Animated Series, the continuity consisting of Batman TAS, Batman Beyond, Justice League TAS, Static Shock, and Justice League Unlimited.

[@Arcademan09]

Reminder that the actor for Zod (Michael Shannon) was so confused at the idea of his character coming back in Flashpoint, he genuinely thought they were lying to him and he called Zack Snyder to confirm it was real. He also had Zack explain to him what multiverse means

[@sinjinreed2091]

You forgot to mention that, allegedly, Snyder hired an ad agency to create an astroturfing campaign to kick the Release The Snyder Cut hashtag into high-gear. It wasn’t an organic movement of passionate fans, it was a bunch of fans being manipulated just so a man could get his director’s cut released.

[@yogandi8922]

it would be common to think if its alleged its not worth mentioning

[@Dru2037]

​@@yogandi8922 it actually happened the alleged part is did Zack hire them.

[@jaxthedisintegrator8096]

Wich is GREAT even if he did so. Warner taking the opportunity to butcher his movie after his daughter death was SICK... Even if I'm not a fan of him, this was disgusting...

[@benpage11]

Oh this hoax? I love how this has no evidence to exist lmao

[@benpage11]

@@Dru2037weird it never happened then

[@_NIKOS9_NIKOS]

I am just happy that we finally have stuff like "My Adventures with Superman ". The Snyderverse, Injustic and the Suicide Squad game damn near killed my love for the character, meanwhile the show reminded me why I liked the character in the first place.

[@orhanamin1347]

Nobody Cares, Because We Want Snyderverse to Restore, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@MILDMONSTER1234]

Let’s be honest Bens Batman was carried almost entirely by the fight scenes. If it weren’t for those he wouldn’t even be *half* as popular as he is

[@orhanamin1347]

About that. #MakeTheBatfleckMovie #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@butterstotch3233]

@@orhanamin1347Bud it’s so over so I don’t know why you Snyder fans try especially for such shit movies

[@orhanamin1347]

@@butterstotch3233 Nobody Cares, Because Snyderverse is not over, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@MutantsInDisguise]

Not enough, as Affleck is an underwhelming actor.

[@jmgonzales7701]

i agree, tbh if it not for the goofy suit and voice of Christian bale i think he was the closest we got to a perfect batman

[@Zxykary]

Snyder Cultists are genuinely scary. Nothing behind the eyes, zero media literacy. And I say this as someone who’s a fan of some of his aesthetic choices and goes out of my way to at least view everything he’s made.

[@carlcjjohnson8694]

Bro I go twitter and see nothing but james gunn praise and no room for criticism

[@TheRockerX]

@@carlcjjohnson8694 bro, you do realize that's just your twitter bubbles. This very video you're commenting showed dozens and dozens of tweets from snyder diehards shitting on anything james gunn does

[@carlcjjohnson8694]

@TheRockerX yeah yeah like gunn doesn't have a circle jerk of people praising every little thing he does and talks about him and his dcu like he's the second coming of christ

[@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md.]

​@@carlcjjohnson8694 Opposed to Zack Snyder, Gunn actually knows how to write and direct a good film... He even wrote Snyder's best rated film. Glazing snyder is the equivalent to saying McDonalds is a good and healthy meal choice.

[@carlcjjohnson8694]

@Dr._Mantis_Toboggan_Md. james gunn is a one trick pony with quirky characters in out of touch situations, his films are some of the most overated pieces of film

[@walmartian422]

Me too it was so bad. I can only surmise that snyderverse robots are just people that haven’t seen that many movies, reject marvel schlock and therefore latch onto this abortion in order to appear sophisticated despite how terrible these movies are.

[@orhanamin1347]

Yeah, Nobody Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@Kilallfemales]

Did your mum disowned you? Seems like you're reflecting your life's misery on a fking movie to feel better about yourself. It's sad honestly.

[@fourth1000]

oh look another hater bot.

[@roemellohennigan596]

@@fourth1000 Everyone can have different opinions than you.

[@aarondrake69]

As a life long comics fan I like the snyderverse. Is it a good 1:1 of the comics? No. Did he make controversial decisions? Yes. But I got what he was doing. Everyone was so mad superman killed zod. I wasn't. If we're trying to be as realistic as we can work these characters then if you're superman and when right off the bat your first adversary isn't lex or metallo but a being(s) as powerful as you with combat training that outcome to stop them is inevitable. I think man of steel is quite good. Bvs was hundred by cutting the plot and as a big Batman fan I am disappointed we got a Batman that lost his way. But it resonates with me because at the time I was going through it bad and seeing this rageful and borderline psycho Batman waa paralleling where I was obviously without the murder lol. Having superman kinda redeem him paralleled my journey back to Christ. So bvs is probably the weakest but it seemed to me Zack was deconstructing to rebuild these mythological characters because he wanted to see what mage them tick. I just found that interesting because he wasn't trying to copy marvel and even at that point I was growing stale with marvel noticing the drop in quality and cookie cutter nature of their films. If say this really started after around age of ultron and the first guardians. Humor And levity is fine and necessary but boy especially after guardians was an unexpected hit they really went for it. So fit me what Zack was doing was like a pallet cleanser and it is not what I would've done but I did want to see where it would go. Like c'mon good justice league it's fantastic other than the slow no porn. He waa wilding a little too much there. But I really enjoyed justice league and I know he had controversial ideas for the sequels like Lois and Batman having a baby and it is so wild and original I at least want commons to complete that cause I just wanna see what this crazy bastard was cooking

[@alessiorando100]

The fact that you can notice these critical issues with the Snyder's films without even knowing the comics or without any personal attachment to some of this characters is emblmeatic of how bad the Snyderverse is.

[@GODCONVOYPRIME]

And how wrong his defenders are.

[@darkseid6898]

Stop being stvpid and ¡gnorant. Only sheeple will pay for Gunn's PedoVerse. You need to educate yourself. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse #FireJamesGunn #BoycottWBD

[@darkseid6898]

@@GODCONVOYPRIME Stop being stvpid and ¡gnorant. Only sheeple will pay for Gunn's PedoVerse. You need to educate yourself. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse #FireJamesGunn #BoycottWBD

[@chrisszostek6700]

@@GODCONVOYPRIMEjust point out his highest rated film is written by Gunn they get so mad 🤣

[@leopereira6101]

How wrong some of This critics are....and how baddly a lot tried to debunk something great....in all movies if you tried to bring them all things to the Logic sense of out reality we always find some flows and errors and nonsenses.... The facto is This new modern aproach for Superman is awesome and is in reality a great CBM,despite that you agreed with some of the decisions in the film or not.....look, to the intire mcu that is considerer too many fans of this genre as the greatest superheros movies and look how bad are most part of his films and how many issues got the infinite saga if you tried to make a good Logic of they're actions and nonsenses and full of plot holes when you tried to atached all the logic debated in these kind of movies....i consider MoS a much better movie then most part of the mcu and how cruel was the criticism toward the snyderverse

[@Motorboatasaurus]

I think Snyder's 300 was good and his style works for it. I absolutely hate how it looks in DC movies though. I don't get how WB doesn't just hand the reigns to their animated DC team cuz they write a good script the characters work and the story is good and makes sense just let them make a full length real film then.

[@aidenpopour594]

The Jesus metaphor is even worse when you know Superman was explicitly made as a Moses metaphor

[@bionicleanime]

I've hated literally every single Zack Synder movie long before the DCEU came around. All the DCEU did was confirm to me how much his style drags.

[@jsc315]

He's a fucking hack, he's the worst part Hollywood that just pushes out awful garbage with no real vision. Just consume consume consume. It's gross

[@NukaCola514]

Yeah he's just like Michael Bay or Roland Emmerich for the superhero fans, boring and soulless movies

[@trevorhoffler-xu5bq]

Somebody in a Snyder Facebook group compared Snyder to Charles Dickens and I almost died laughing

[@orhanamin1347]

Nobody Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@usmanzubair742]

I was in one of these groups and they compared him to the likes of Andrei Tarkosvsky😂😂

[@dc_cristianz]

Sono diversi, non puoi paragonarlo

[@trevorhoffler-xu5bq]

@@dc_cristianz idk what you said, but I feel you

[@ichigokurosaki1081]

​@@Mirakulus9snyder fans are fucking delusional 😂

[@Sterlingl3591]

Why do we need another Superman origin story? I’d love to see Superman in the 3rd year of his career. He’d be established, he’d be known, and it still leaves room for villains to take their shot at Superman.

[@shortstoryuniverseaudio]

Sounds perfect. Lol

[@SecretMagician]

I'm pretty sure that's what David Corenswet's Superman will be in James Gunn's Superman movie.

[@LuisAngel-mu4zv]

Yeah, I've noticed that most of newer movies are like that, they also spend a lot of the runtime when they can do other interesting things.

[@Critic_Chris90210]

How many times we've seen Batman's origins? Lets see, Burton/shumachers films explored them, Nolan did, Snyder did😊

[@Critic_Chris90210]

#SnyderCult/hypocritebiasedhaters😊

[@WyattDucar]

To be honest the fall of snyderverse is more of the fault of everyone, Zack Snyder was definitely not the right choice as architect for the DCEU But Warner Brothers are no saints either The way they treated Zack during the production of JL and Having their relationship fall part Is probably one of the most ugliest downfalls of partnerships between a studio and filmmaker Next to the production of aliens 3 with Fox and David Fincher?

[@billybarnett9518]

Something that people fail to understand is Warner wanted a darker Superman regardless of Snyder's presence. After The Dark Knight, Warner hired story collaborator David Goyer to write a script for a darker Superman movie, and this was before they had a director. Whichever director was hired, we still would've gotten Man Of Steel. Goyer even took credit for one of the more infamous moments, Superman snapping Zod's neck.

[@WyattDucar]

@@billybarnett9518 Wow I didn't know that until now. But yeah it brings back my point is that it is more of the fault of everyone involved. I still think having Batman V Superman the second film of this series is one of the dumbest decisions they made. If I was Zack or at least a WB executive after Man of Steel I would just have Man of Steel 2, Wonder Woman (Same novel just different ending as the director wanted plus it would be release earlier.) A Ben Affeck spin off batman movie adapting the death in the family storyline (regardless who is robin whether it is jason todd or Dick Grayson the death of robin would explain why Batman is the way he is in Batman V Superman and why he kills people.), Aquaman, The Flash,(Different Flashstoryline not Flashpoint.) Then finally Batman V Superman? I wonder what do you think of my ideas?

[@billybarnett9518]

@@WyattDucar Sounds like a good plan. For some reason, I can't post the article I wanna post despite several attempts, but this was their plan as of August 2008: "Like the recent Batman sequel -- which has become the highest-grossing film of the year thus far -- Mr. Robinov wants his next pack of superhero movies to be bathed in the same brooding tone as "The Dark Knight." Creatively, he sees exploring the evil side to characters as the key to unlocking some of Warner Bros.' DC properties. "We're going to try to go dark to the extent that the characters allow it," he says. That goes for the company's Superman franchise as well."

[@WyattDucar]

@@billybarnett9518 Interesting, considering how that turned out in the end or the ideas were good just executed poorly. I will admit while I don't hate the whole Batman killing people in Batman V Superman I just wish we have an in-universe explanation for why he essentially become the punisher and I think having Ben Affleck spin off film earlier as well as adapting the Death in the family Storyline would be good because at least we would understand the current state he is in Batman V Superman?

[@dignerds]

​@@WyattDucarSnyder stated he wanted more movies before a BVS. But I think the DCEU could have started with a JL movie.

[@jasonjacksn]

The Snyder cut was headed because WB saw a way to get a bunch of people to sign up for HBO Max

[@orhanamin1347]

Now known as Max

[@Iloveyou-dz7mq]

This comment section is fucking terrifying. At first i was like "oh ok cool, its just some dudes not liking snyderverse" and then when i looked at the replies, its scary af. Its like you're in a mountain while watching people fighting and killing each other.

[@orhanamin1347]

It wasn’t Me!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@NebLleb]

@@orhanamin1347 Yes it was, dum-dum.

[@orhanamin1347]

@@NebLleb Shut Up, Dum-Dum!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@xxxtrainstation1049]

Definitely one of the comments sections of all time

[@NebLleb]

@@orhanamin1347 Plagiarist. #REJECTtheSnyderverse

[@gundradestroyer4480]

What Zack Snyder fans don't understand is that if the Gunn reboot fails, it will be the definitive end of DC in the movies.

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, We Want Snyderverse to Restore, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@IamNukem]

​@@orhanamin1347Ragebait only works if you don't make it obvious

[@kendrajade6688]

@@orhanamin1347 Wouldn't a Snyder Cultist be the ones in SUPPORT of Snyder? Imagine if we called Christians "Satan Cultists," it wouldn't make any sense.

[@raw_meat7234]

Fanbase so braindead they made their own youtube bot

[@_somestuff]

@@orhanamin1347 way to miss the point they stated

[@saltoftheegg]

I just feel like the overlap between Snyder fans and internet fascists is bigger than anyone wants to acknowledge

[@kevinodoghair]

BvS and ZSJL writer Chris Terrio addressed the Anti-Life confusion in a live Q&A at the 2023 Full Circle Event. Terrio said “Ive heard chatter about the Anti-Life Equation”….”how did Uxas/Darkseid lose it as though it were his keys? But we would’ve taken that up in the second episode (JL2). You would’ve understood some of the Apokolyptian betrayals and Palace intrigue that would’ve explained how all that happened. So if ever a miracle happens and more of the story is made, you’ll understand more of that because there was a plan there.”

[@joshevertonyt]

That's genuinely good that they said that and clarified. Unfortunately, to the average audience member (myself included) who just watches the film and doesn't know about these secondary pieces of info, there is no explanation for it in the film itself. It is good to know they get this was a point of contention though, and sought to address it

[@Dookieman1975]

At least I now know it’s cuz of disloyalty cuz I thought “u guys didn’t even have any records of the planet you invaded to obtain universal to multiversal power?”

[@Alg0rhythm]

Snyder or bay ? Discuss

[@Alg0rhythm]

​@@joshevertonytsounds like the movie they should have made

[@Alg0rhythm]

Yeah that's the thing. There's no batman v superman. Just not a real thing,

[@gachapinCUEVA]

Glad to see someone making a good review of this horrible universe. Snyder Riders are f'cking relentless and hate anything that's light and colorful.

[@orhanamin1347]

Oh F**k Off, Snyder Cultist Hack, Because Snyderverse are still going, Ya Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@RealGateGuardian]

Zack Snyder is WAY overrated. DC has a habit of hiring people who give zero shits about Comic Books let alone the heroes of those books. I'm glad teh Synderverse is did, it sucked since movie one.

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, Because Snyderverse is a Masterpiece, So touch your grass, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@Dark_Jaguar]

I think the worst part of this trilogy of movies is they wasted Superman's death. No upcoming much slower paced buildup to such an event will ever have the same "sting" to a general audience because they did it here so sloppily, so now anyone looking at a new series of movies that builds up to a sacrifice are just going to recall these movies and say "Oh that's okay, he heals from death so he'll be fine", so every movie in between his death and resurrection (the "in between" being something that doesn't exist in the Snyderverse) will just have audience asking "hey when's Superman coming back?" instead of what they should be thinking, which is "I miss Superman right now". Heck, they even could have taken the Snyderverse and spun it into a multiversal idea, doing a direct followup by another director called "Justice Society" based on a more retro and kinder aesthetic and their contact with the Snyderverse. You know, conflicting viewpoints of alternate characters playing off each other. Instead, Marvel even beat them to THAT punch to such an extent everyone's sick of the very concept of the multiverse.

[@IAmBored347]

As a former fan who tried watching the Main Arc of the DCEU, I cannot deny the story...hasn't aged well. I was a bit fatigued with Marvel's content especially some parts of it not aging well. Such as the horrors of CGI and VFX special effects, the humor being used at nauseoum especially Thor Love and Thunder, the many releases for phases, etcetera. But I still feel the MCU still lives up because between Iron Man to Endgame all stories managed to reach a conclusion rather than a rushed final arc. That is why I feel the reason why the Snyderverse failed was Warner Brothers, The issues with Snyder as a Director, and issues with how they gave the product. Warner is still a busy and messy company due to its poor working condtions and issues in the DC universe. Rather than doing their way of films, they tried to copy Marvel's universe and that failed too. They were too eager in producing yet again another dark superhero movie after Nolan left the Dark Knight trilogy, and because of that they hired Snyder. And sigh, I never got into Snyder's movies. There's something off with the dark lighting as well as the characters acting like a soap opera. I mean what he did with his Snyder Take of Justice League was incredible, I feel he's great at choreography by making it intense but the way the characters are like makes me bored watching it. Now don't get me wrong I did enjoy some parts of the Snyderverse. I enjoyed the Man of Steel's take of Zodd the most thanks to Zodd's actor, Michael Shannon. I feel Henry Cavill is an underrated Superman that unfortunately didn't capture his full potential but he was great at being heroic. I liked Cavill's Superman outfit and maybe if Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor was given development more, maybe it could've been great. But the Snyderverse to me is a what if. I'm sure Snyder loves filming and his choreography is incredible. He may be fun to others but personally I sadly don't get it. He's great with the coreography but his work to me feels so....incomplete? And while I did enjoy some pieces of his Snyderverse JLU, it doesn't feel as fulfilling as I hoped. Maybe I was burnt out by cinematic movie trilogies though this movie wasn't a hit for me as I hope. The only reason I enjoyed the Cut was Cyborg and Stepphenwolf and everything was wasted. Too bad the movie's runtime was long and it sucks we never got to see Darkseid in action. Poor Bruce is still the violent vigilante take of Snyder and Superman wasn't able to shine until the last acts. And Snyder always made the "ominous foreshadowing" that he'll always snap and turn evil. Sigh. That's why maybe we cannot simply revive a beaten horse. We all got our Snyderverse JLU movie and while I enjoy his take I just never got intetested in Snyder. I still feel if much fault is Warner but Snyder to me shouldn't work for a cinematic movie. I never got interested in his movies especially Rebel Moon because why do we have to watch a two parter of a gritty Star Wars take? I hope Snyder becomes a better creator because I'm just unimpressed besides his movie the 500. The only reason why I enjoyed the DCEU's movies isn't Snyder. But the many other directors who made other movies. Like Joker (2019) or The Batman (2022). Maybe The DCU should focus on superhero one offs on characters or take their own spin on the mythos while still respecting the source material. Overall, I don't despise the Snyderverse I'm just disappointed.

[@jorgeazem9511]

This video is so much more entertaining then any of these movies, Zack's Snyder cut is straight up torture.

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, Because We Want Snyderverse to Restore, Ya Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@ffiiggyy]

This comment section is a legitimate iceberg. 😂

[@joshevertonyt]

It's a lawless land out here

[@ii-mp1sp]

@@joshevertonyt Justice League 2021 is one of the best superhero movies I have seen. When watching, I experienced the same emotions as with the first Avengers, X-Men and Spider-Man, these are all films of my era and considering the fact that Warner did not give it a sequel and how they mocked the actors, this is a shame. And now, instead of Darkseid and serious superheroics, we will have cringe comedies from James Gunn, where the old actors are the dumbass Sina and the slut Robbie.

[@biguy617]

Wonder Woman is great with a spear. She knows because she has done it in the comics.

[@shreeanshrajsharma8328]

as someone who loves the comics and the lore , the fact some people were defending it saying its comic accurte because scenes looked like comic panels was baffling , they banked on the fact that in the first few appereance of batman in 1939 where the character was a bland noir detective and i mean maybe 4 issues to justifying him killing and assisinating his entire growth and development of the character , i felt ashamed of being a DC fan

[@UriTrash]

Lois it's a plot device, even Amy Adams say that in a video

[@EvanSol919]

To me Snyder's films come across as being made by an angsty teenager who thinks violence and swearing is "cool" and "adult".

[@romeoalpha68]

The Slow Motion and the muted colors in all Snyder movies are horrible .

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, See All Snyder’s movies, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@BigK13372]

But you have to understand: these movies were made for the fans. And can be only be enjoyed by the true DC fans who read the comics and invest on these characters. . . . . I actually read a shit load of DC comics and know each and every story the Snyderverse were inspired from. And its all a piss poor take. 1) Now I am more forgiving on Man of Steel as there are a lot of different origin retellings of Superman including Johb Bryne’s Man of Steel, Mark Waid’s Superman Birthrifhr, Geoff Jones’ Supwrman Secrer Origins, and Max Landis’ Superman American Alien. But for conparisson lets go with Birthrighr which seems like the one Superman Origin that Snyder’s Man of Steel is directly inspired from. Like Birthright was also a more grounded and updated retelling of the character which dwells with the themes of Clark struggling to learn about who he is and his gradual development in becoming accepted as Earth’s champion who inspires others. The thing is Birthright actually pulled off said development and didn’t came across as contrived as you pointed out with the video. I even like how said story present the invading Kryptonian army as merely just a false flag operation by Lex Luthor to sew dissent in public trust towards Superman (which is a lot smartly done that Luthor’s plan in BVS which speaking of. . . . . ) 2) Batman v. Superman is clogged up mess of a story that doesn’t do any of the stories it included justice. It failed to do the first meeting of the heroes right compare to how JB Man of Steel pulled off their initial teeth clenched team up which focus the development of the two mutual respect. It failed to understand the meaning of their fight from The Dark Knight Returns which was supposed to be a clash between two long acquainted friends who are now on opposite sides of the law. And it failed to understand the impact of The Death of Superman story which is something that should of been saved for in a movie later down the film universe than at the early stages of the whole thing. 3) ZS Justice League really is just a bloated retelling of New 52 Justice League origin. Like the only difference being is that Steppenwolf is the starting villain instead of Darkseid and there is NO Green Lantern. And worst yet, said movie attempt to evoke the same tone and themes of Pantheon as Grant Morrisson JLA while completely missing the metacontex behind said themes. Doesn’t help that the whole Knightmare sequence was trying to emulate the whole bad future from the Rock of Ages storyline. Point is: you really would have a better time enjoying Justice League by just reading Grant Morrison’s JLA.

[@joshevertonyt]

@BigK13372 thanks for this context! I am genuinely impressed how hard they fumbled very odd and specific attempts at sewing so many different things together

[@BigK13372]

@@joshevertonyt Yeah it is depressing, as I legit wanted the film universe to succeed in bringing the characters and their story to the silver screen. But the combination of the questionable logic in the characters, the bleakness in its tone despite Justice League attempt at being more idealistic, and just the constant bastardization of the story does convince me that Snyderverse was just a sinking ship of a franchise. And the post-Snyder era is just all over the place with quality as they either are some of the best representation of the characters (Aquaman, Shazam, The Suicid Squad, Blue Beetle) or dumpster fires that I regret seeing (Wonder Woman 84, The Flash, Black Adam, Shazam Fury of the Gods)

[@orhanamin1347]

@@BigK13372 And It Completely flopped Because for that. #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@NebLleb]

@@orhanamin1347 Translation: BRBRBRBBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRBR~!!!!

[@bjdepro]

This is SO GOOD!! It's sharp and to the point, highlighting Hack Snyder's incompetence. Just look at his DC movies and his recent mess, Rebel Moon Part 1 & 2. They’re filled with illogical plot points, unlikable main characters, confusing decisions, incoherent storylines, ridiculous villains, unnecessary slow motion, and excessive violence and sexual content. I'm glad he's relegated to only directing Netflix movies; it's the only place for such an egotistical, self-indulgent director. He’s like a 14-year-old edgelord.

[@joshevertonyt]

I am truly amazed people keep throwing money at him

[@bjdepro]

@@joshevertonyt Netflix was just riding the hype of Snyder's Justice League cut when they signed multiple movie deals with him. Trust me, with his recent flops like Army of the Dead (another incoherent movie) and Rebel Moon, they wont be throwing money at him for long. His egotistical comments in interviews, like saying his movie would be bigger than Barbie if it were shown in theaters, won't help him either. Netflix didn't even promote Rebel Moon 2 as they did with the first movie, and they lifted the movie critics' embargo just a few minutes before the premiere, which shows that even Netflix knew how bad the movie was lol

[@orhanamin1347]

No It’s Not, Zack Snyder is Not a Hack, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@orhanamin1347]

@@bjdepro Nah, It did well on Netflix, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!!

[@bjdepro]

@@orhanamin1347 LOOOOOOL 🤣

[@whytfuneedanameinYT]

Small channel but good video quality , good audio AND good takes ? WOW! you got a new subscriber

[@joshevertonyt]

Thanks mate! Appreciate the support ❤️

[@jacknixon4641]

36:50 It's ironic because in the fanedit of this film made by Wakeupkeo, the film actually begins with that scene. (Sidenote, the fanedit is definitely worth checking out.)

[@chasedupthesky]

"Most importantly, I've seen Batman and Robin" finally someone worthy of my time

[@horaciosi]

Snyder doesn't care why things happen so long as it looks cool that they happen.

[@eliesh3833]

To any readers of this comment section, here is some advice from someone who is not a film-maker but actively thinks like one and would like to be some day. Visual spectacle is great, but it should never be prioritized over story when making a movie. The story comes first, and if ever something occurs in it that happens to be spectacular, only depict it then. But those moments need to feel earned, so focus first on the characters, their actions, motivations, thoughts and feelings which lead up to them. Don't use spectacle every ten-seconds to keep your viewers engaged. Do that through other means. Personally, I would resort to that by tickling the intellectual parts of your viewer's minds, even while simultaneously giving them story elements that require some suspension of disbelief. For example, TV shows like "Doctor Who" do a good job at doing this. A lot of the "science" in that show is incredibly fake, but it feels believable for the overall universe that is being conveyed. With regard to overall visuals prior to moments of spectacle, you can at least make them intriguing through lighting and color-grading, but obviously, those two things needs to be done wisely. Lighting should enhance the subject and convey the mood. Color grading can also be used to convey a mood, but first and foremost, it should be used to enhance your footage. Stylization, if need be, can come later. But even then, it should not be overdone like in movies such as The Ring, Twilight, and 300. Camerawork is especially crucial. It's important to utilize the rule of thirds and not overuse central focus on your subjects. But you need to set up a shot in a way that allows your viewer to absorb information in a feasible way. All of this advice is based not only on my personal experiences with shooting and editing videos, but also from a Visual Storytelling class I took in college. I'm by no means a professional, so maybe don't take my word for it 100%. But some of the advice I give might be helpful.

[@FleshWolf]

No one really mentions his family situation which I think would realistically be a solid point to use but the insane fans dont, they’re just toxic for toxics sake, pure delusion Edit: just read one comment reply, they defend this like it a religion, like they watched christ get crucified, synder fans would commit a January 6 on James Gunn just based on unfounded vibes

[@orhanamin1347]

Yep!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954]

I suggest you watch the DCAU sometime. The shows included in it are Batman the Animated Series The New Batman Adventures Superman the Animated Series Batman Beyond The Zeta Project Justice League Justice League Unlimited Also the following movies Batman Mask of the Phantasm Batman-Mr. Freeze Subzero Batman Mystery of the Batwoman Batman Beyond and the Return of the Joker

[@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954]

I forgot one important show, Static Shock.

[@nugget3327]

Superman/Batman: Public Enemies is also peak

[@mikebottomlesspitdunham2954]

@@nugget3327 fair, but I was naming DCAU Content, not all good content, otherwise I'd name so many other shows and movies.

[@ryszakowy]

4 hours to include a proper story of the movie mixed with so much filler the entire movie again makes no sense i mean come on, snyder is convinced that heroes need to commit atrocities this guy should have never been allowed to make hero movies let him make another 300 or watchmen

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@letoiimuaddib-rm1ur]

I support #rejectthesnyderverse!

[@orhanamin1347]

No You Don’t!!! #DontRejectTheSnyderverse #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@letoiimuaddib-rm1ur]

@orhanamin1347 Don't tell me how to live my life, you brainwashed cultist! Screw those sorry ass Snyder abominations you consider films! #rejectthesnyderverse!

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

@@orhanamin1347 give Snyder 2 More Rebel Moon movies and he'll have destroyed his value as director for eternity.

[@Baximus23]

​@@orhanamin1347 Yes. We do. The snyderverse failed. Its time we moved the hell on

[@BingeGamer69]

@@orhanamin1347 To want someone fired because they didn't do what a small majority want is not only childish but dumb.

[@Urvy1A]

Snyder is an emo teenager trapped in an adult body.

[@orhanamin1347]

Nobody Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@luiseduardomurillomartinez]

And James Gunn is a pubescent 12-year-old trapped in an old man's body?

[@DarkAnon100]

​@@luiseduardomurillomartinezwell at least James Gunn is able to do good Movies, i still wait to see a good Snyder movie (one he actually wrote, 300 and Watchmen dont count)

[@luiseduardomurillomartinez]

@@DarkAnon100 Well, when you take into account that in his Guardians of the Galaxy movies where they start arguing about feces while being chased for stealing batteries... or that the humor of that Man in The Suicide Squad or Peacemaker is based on pen|s3s in an island or Aquaman having s3× with fishes ... you'll understand that I'm not very willing to take what you say into account.

[@iheartblock3792]

@@luiseduardomurillomartinezsex jokes can be funny if they are written well. Gunn writes funny sex jokes 👍

[@kiwi_arms]

now i will defend exactly one thing in bvs "i thought she was with you" is a funny line so it gets a pass

[@deathseekr1537]

Snyder trying to write a movie under 2 hours (impossible):

[@Arcademan09]

I saw BvS opening weekend. I didn't see any reviews beforehand, i even went with friends so i went in best case scenario. By the end of the movie i was laughing so hard i was crying. Lex Luther screams "he's coming! DINGDINGDING!" cracked me up. Everything else i was flinching, gasping, cringing and questioning everything i was seeing on screen

[@exploshaun]

Snyder ruined my childhood. I was in the movie theater, seeing Superman destroy the ship, waiting for Man of Steel to end, because I needed to use the bathroom. Instead, he and Zod proceeded to punch each other for 40 more minutes.

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@xisigma]

What stopped you from leaving in the middle. When you got to go, you got to go.

[@brewmaster2912]

I went through the same thing with Across the Spider Verse. I didn’t want to miss any moment of that film so I waited to go home to use the bathroom and it felt glorious

[@feliciasteward777]

Don't forget he also made Superman look completely careless in Man of steel literally he put everyone else's life in danger and in that movie just to fight zod

[@Furzkampfbomber]

@@feliciasteward777 He also made Batman utterly forget about his strict 'no killing' rule (which he has for a very concrete reason, FFS) and casually hose people down with an assault rifle and he turned him into a glorified bus driver with no useful powers other than 'being rich'. And a lot of the things the Flash did either made no sense at all or would downright have killed people. Which tends to happen when a directer gives a crap about established characters and their powers and decides to completely go style over substance. And then still fails when it comes to style, btw.

[@whaleguy]

There is no denying that WB are partly to blame for the failure of the DCEU. They rushed into it without a plan for what they wanted to accomplish other than wanting to copy Marvel. They put multiple movies into production without waiting for the first one to release and see how people responded. I am referring to how BvS, SS, WW, JL, and AM were shot back to back. The timeline was so compressed that WW was already shooting when BvS came out, and AM was *done* filming when JL came out. If that hadn't happened, it is very possible AM would've been canned altogether. But this does not absolve Snyder of blame. It was he and Goyer who decided to have Clark snap Zod's neck. Everyone they went to told them not to do it but they did anyway. He is responsible for the mess of BvS, the one movie where he had the most creative control. He is the one who decided to have the DCEU, the first ever iteration of a JL live action universe, take inspiration from Injustice, a storyline that is best suited to an Elseworlds. And going beyond this, it is clear the guy just doesn't understand what comics mean to people beyond a very narrow, tunnel vision. There is that infamous interview where he says mainstream comics weren't bloody and violent enough for him, and that a truly "dark" Batman movie would have a prison r*pe scene. His adaptation of Watchmen is overly focused on fancy, slow mo fight scenes and making Rorschach cool, when the comic makes it clear that he is a violent psychopath who knows little beyond beating up people. In the lead up to BvS, he gave an interview where he said if two superheroes are talking in costume, it looks silly. And in his world, if Superman saves a cat out of a tree, he will be set upon by arborists for breaking branches. He really has no idea what Superman stands for, other than being an obstacle to be overcome. It is no wonder the only story he could think of was one where Clark becomes evil, because that is the most obvious leap from treating Superman like an obstacle. And I haven't even started on all the wild changes he was making to DC canon like having the Amazons be descended from Kryptonians who crashed on Earth ages ago, or Bruce and Lois having a child together, all while insisting that he was adhering to canon. #rejectthesnyderverse

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, We Want Snyderverse to Restore, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #DontRejectTheSnyderverse #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@dignerds]

Snyder and Goyer gave us the first successful Superman movie in 26 years. The general audience liked MOS..BVS..SS..WW ... But WB butchered 4 dceu movies with studio interferance causing issues. Snyder use of injustice was just an element to be saved from.

[@orhanamin1347]

@@dignerds Stupid WB!!! 😡😡😡 #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@NebLleb]

@@orhanamin1347 #REJECTtheSnyderverse When will you morons learn that you're the minority and that your obsessiveness leads to disaster?

[@NebLleb]

@@dignerds ...What are you smoking? And where can I get it?

[@LeitadaRala]

Snyder just don't know how to make a good adaptation

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, Go Stick with Pearl movie Instead, Because Mia Goth is a Star. #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@Dru2037]

Army of the Dead and the Rebel Moon movies proves he's a terrible writer and should stop.

[@orhanamin1347]

@@Dru2037 Nope, It was great writter, Who Also wrote John Wick, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!!

[@sacredbeastzenon]

Actually, his best work is adaptations. His true lack of talent and creativity become apparent with his own ideas.

[@orhanamin1347]

@@sacredbeastzenon Nobody Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@harmonlanager2670]

Imagine having a cinematic universe with two of the most popular superheroes in western canon And the most beloved character to come out of it is fucking Peacemaker.

[@NebLleb]

Leave it to James Gunn to make lesser-known characters popular and begin one of the biggest salvage operations in film history.

[@orhanamin1347]

@@NebLleb Nobody Cares about Gunn’s DCU Bullshit, We Want Snyderverse to Restore, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@orhanamin1347]

Yeah, Nobody saw Peacemaker series and TSS. #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@DarkAnon100]

@@orhanamin1347 yeahhhh, i have a lot of proof of the contrary, but sure, continue to defend that hack that is Hack Snyder. Oh, and, how is Rebel Moon by the way (It's a rhetorical question, everyone knows it sucks, heck, it's a miracle Games Workshop didnt pursue him considering how much of Warhammer 40K he blatenly stole)

[@orhanamin1347]

@@DarkAnon100 Screw you, Zack Snyder is Not a Hack, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@MutantsInDisguise]

I unapologetically hate the whole Snyderverse with a passion. It was all a thoughtless reaction to both Nolan's Batman and the Marvel Cinematic Universe, trying to be edgy and nihilistic, but it flopped epically. Not only are each of the Snyder's films unoriginal and soulless; the characters are so, so abysmal, they are unrelatable and uninspiring. (And if you think a character who feels sorry for themself is relatable, yet do nothing to improve their life, seek help.) Superman, the last son of Krypton, who was raised by two kind and humble farmers to help people, is, according to Snyder, Nolan, Goyer, and Terrio, a god-like alien who will use his powers to destroy everyone; as such, in the films, he is violent, emotional, petty, prone to self-pity, misanthropic, and looks down on people, to the point he is just a blue-clad Batman with powers. Speaking of Batman, he is, paradoxically, exactly like this 'Superman', which is already a mistake, because not only is Batman the one who is meant to see everyone at their very worst; rather than the cold, calculating vigilante who takes crooks by surprise and uses his brains to escape from death traps, he is just a retarted savage who thinks of himself as a savior of mandkind, yet he kills and maims anyone he crosses path with for no reason at all. (There is nothing that helps explains Batman's savage behavior in the film.) It's such a disgrace two of the most important superheroes ever were reunited in such a ridiculous movie by one of the most inmature and narcissistic filmmakers ever, who constantly needs to remind us his insecurities as an artist and person.

[@joshevertonyt]

Couldn't have put it better myself mate, completely agree

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, Because We Want Snyderverse to Restore, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #DontRejectTheSnyderverse #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@johnwells5414]

I mean, you’re not wrong haha

[@jakeelwell2132]

Based

[@abiuniverse]

People who think MCU is childish and goofy should look at how that scene was handled when Tony Stark finds out that Bucky is the killer of his parents and loses it. It's all rage in him from that point on. That is cinema. That was serious tone people think didn't exist in MCU

[@Arcademan09]

It is absolutely *BAFFLING* there's people on this planet that watch his movies with a straight face and claim it's peak cinema. And then his Not-Star Wars happened and it somehow got worse

[@biguy617]

I hate both versions of Batman V Superman. Both suck for me.

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@DepravedCoTApologist]

The disaster that is the Snyderverse (and the greater DCEU) has been, really makes me appreciate how much of a lightning in a bottle the MCU Infinity Saga was. Even if it wasn't perfect, that was a unified and cohesive universe that was built around likable characters with comic book fun. I think it will be impossible for it to get replicated ever again

[@orhanamin1347]

No It’s Not, Because Snyderverse is not Disaster, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@johnwatson1258]

Dude is 100% right about everything... Except that slow mo scene in Age of Ultron was dope. And I'm guessing not establishing what makes a BvS story viable... their legendary friendship and seeing friends falling out, is a result of not reading the comics... but yeah everything else spot on

[@ImpulseKidEntertainment]

I want to give a sincere and heartfelt thankyou for taking my frustrations with this dead franchise and articulating them so eloquently. You've earned a subscriber.

[@joshevertonyt]

Thanks mate, appreciate it. Yeah, it's wild to see all this sentiment continuing for so long about restoring this universe

[@orhanamin1347]

Nobody Cares, Snyderverse is not dead Franchise, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@orhanamin1347]

@@joshevertonyt No You Don’t!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@mcknightmareb4u494]

I'm gonna leave a positive comment because this a very good video and I fear the comments will be infected by Snyder cultists

[@joshevertonyt]

Cheers mate, there's some interesting takes here...

[@xxxtrainstation1049]

Nah

[@diegofloor]

The only sin was nonsensical plots. I appreciate his visual style and original ideas, but the writing and final edit of the movies are absolutely broken.

[@prismavoid3764]

Zack Snyder's movies feel like nothing but buildup to me. It's constantly like we're stuck in the first act of a sixty-hour movie, just watching exposition and character introductions. Maybe that sixty-hour movie would be good when we reach Justice League 7: Batman Does His Taxes or whatever, but his utter failure to make what's happening in the moment feel impactful or valuable. It really feels like if Zack were better at getting his ideas across in a more concise manner, he could've condensed his entire five-film plan down to two or three movies (all of NORMAL LENGTH) and it would've been good. Instead he insists on incredible amounts of excess and buildup that isn't necessary.

[@kanekyrocryptic7853]

Thank you for saying what everyone is thinking, it baffles me how people enjoyed that. As a batman enjoyer, his portrayal is just so "I'm 14 and edgy vibe"

[@KZOORAT]

Yes! Finally! Oh how I hate the nonsense ZS puts out.

[@homerhat420]

Imagine having all that feedback from Justice League's original release and you still make something unwatchable

[@nathans45]

Snyder to me represents the absolutely epitome of the modern "safe edgy" superhero story. Its edgy in that people die and all the characters are immoral and irrational elseworlds versions of their established selves, but it doesnt SAY anything. It has no meaningful critique of anything that people might actually have a legitimate reason to disagree with on an ideological level. Its simultaneously nihilistic and completely lacking in philosophical depth

[@brucelau2023]

Batman is Lex Luthor, Lex Luthor is the Joker, Jonathan Kent is suicidal, and Superman is an impossibly bland mass-murderer.

[@TheSpyder52]

Thank you! I felt like I was going crazy trying to tell people these movies were bad.

[@orhanamin1347]

Who Cares, We Want Snyderverse to Restore, You Snyder Cultist Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@painteddolphin0324]

Snyder is an amazing case study in which a man's film quality decreases with every film, yet the movie's budget and length always increases. Like when's the last time Snyder created a hit movie off of an original I.P.?

[@CamTheWarlock]

I’m excited for James Gunn’s take and what he’s doing. I recently watched The Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, and though I get the whole “unnecessary amount of comedy” is one of the most polarizing parts of Marvel (unless you’re part of the “grrr I hate woke” crowd), but I loved those projects, and I can’t wait to see how he does the rest. James Gunn is one of the few directors that I know of and love his movies, at least the superhero stuff, so giving him the reins may be daring but so long as he has someone else to help out I’m confident we might *finally* have superhero media that isn’t just Marvel’s ever expanding universe or Sony’s poor excuse of trying to ride off marvels hype a decade too late.

[@orhanamin1347]

Nobody Cares, Because Gunn’s DCU is gonna be Disaster Because for Snyder Fans, Ya Hack!!! #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@Ancor_Vantian]

Wait, wait, wait! We are _already_ here so might as well just start. 5:30 yo, Zack. Question: Who _exactly_ is Clark supposed to be emulating in this scene?

[@cacography]

i really enjoyed zack's justice league--apart from the absolute ass epilogue--but hoo boy does it get under my skin how this man, who by his own admission hates superhero stories, became god king of DC. so much of these movies was just him flipping viewers the bird. his jimmy olsen on its own exposed him as really mean spirited towards fans of these characters

[@JB-1138]

I think Snyder's visual style peaked with the 300. Or maybe the Watchmen.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

I despised Snyder's take on the DC Universe. He turned Superman into Batman and Batman into the Punisher.

[@kassye1624]

Unfortunately, the extreme and irrational Synder fans will most likely go to criticize Gun's universe. We are already seeing it with the new Superman movie (which is not even out yet).

[@joshevertonyt]

That one always kills me. If you've already decided you hate it before it even comes out, what chance does it have?

[@orhanamin1347]

@@joshevertonyt All Because for Snyder Fans. #FireJamesGunn #BoycottDCstudios #BoycottWBD #RestoreTheSnyderverse

[@jansenallensigaton6328]

Ah yes the mass murdeeing batman. Superman who treats saving people as chore, suicidal dad kent. Lex luthor joker wanna be. Kal el no. The flush whos only weakness is tripping.

[@bassandtreble6616]

I was your 1000th sub, keep up the awesome work and the weekly planet shout out at the beginning was cool

[@joshevertonyt]

Thanks for helping me reach that milestone mate, really appreciate it. Hope you enjoy future content!

[@NukaCola514]

"The Arkham trilogy" There's more than 3 Arkham games bro, Origins counts and has the best boss fights of all of em

[@joshevertonyt]

Never played Origins, but I keep hearing good things, I'll have to give it a go

[@NebLleb]

@@joshevertonyt You can find it on PC and physical copies are backwards compatible on Xbox.

[@manofsteel3396]

I totally HATE the performance of the two actors portraying The Flash, and Lex Luthor!! VERY poor choices for such iconic characters!