Is Hilti Nuron Worth the Premium $$$$???

[@davesheppard8797]

A little story for you all about Hilti from me here in England. 35 years ago a contractor came to the Theatre I work at to do some work. If I remember rightly he did some electrics, which I don't do. About a week after he had left I found that he had left his 110 volt corded Hilti TE1 SDS drill behind. I phoned him many times and after a month or so he said he had replaced it with a newer model Hilti and I could keep it or throw it away as he had thrashed it pretty hard since he had it and it was probably on it's last legs. So I kept it, cleaned it, bought a 110 transformer and it became the workshop bitch so to speak, used by all my young assistants and trainees who would happily kick it across concrete floors to each other instead of passing it to each other. It was thrashed using drill bits far too big for it and generally mistreated in every way possible. I meanwhile used my pretty new Makita SDS drills and guarded them against trainees and assistants!! Well.....35 years on and that Hilti is still as sweet as it was when I got it 2nd hand and it has outlasted many new Makita's, DeWalts and others. Nowadays though, I treat it with the respect it deserves. I also have to say that it drills just as quickly as other modern up to date Makita's etc that are also used by people at my work. It is just a joy to use and is not at all aggressive! It is vibration free and very smooth but drills really quickly. It also has a very long lead on it. So if I'm re-vamping one of our 25 dressing rooms, I can plug it in and it will comfortably reach every wall in a 15 foot square room. I can then keep my battery gear for screwdriving etc. Dave.

[@TinkerWithTools]

That's awesome!

[@davesheppard8797]

@@TinkerWithTools 🙂🙂👍👍

[@potvinsuks8730]

That's a great lil story! In comparing Power Tool Brands to Car Manufacturers (noob here - trying to get an idea so relating to what I know best etc hehe) would you all say that HILTI is more like Bentley / RR / Maybach?

[@davesheppard8797]

@@potvinsuks8730 Rolls Royce!

[@littlejackalo5326]

I’m still trying to figure out what he’s talking about “premium $” LOL. They’re right around the same price as Milwaukee. $440 for the hammer drill and impact kit.

[@davesheppard8797]

I use the Hilti SF6H A22, the SID-4 Impact and the TE6 A22 on the old battery platform. Hilti gear is by far the best I've used in over 40 years. I also run Milwaukee Gen3 combi, impact and the 61/2" Circular saw. Milwaukee are junk by comparison with trigger issues on all 3 tools. Plus, after sales service with Hilti is 2nd to none. I sent my Milwaukee combi back to have the trigger issue addressed and it took 3 weeks to come back and the problem was still there. My old assistant dropped my earlier model SF6H Hilti down a deep street drain. It still worked OK but sounded a bit weird on the run-out. I called my local Hilti rep and he was with me within half an hour with a replacement drill and he took mine away to be looked at. Mine was back with me within 24 hours and the rep took the loaner back. So half an hour down-time compared to 3 weeks with the Milwaukee. Dave.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Hilti's service for the professional is really what sets them apart. And I agree that they are built different that just about every brand out there right now. They focus on completely different things as a company.

[@davesheppard8797]

@TinkerWithTools I completely agree with you Sir!! Dave.

[@marklanahan7289]

Yeah, tools for pros mate. That service contract makes sure their tools are reliable. Not any of the competition could live by that contract.

[@ggqbc]

Milwaukee build quality is always a problem for me ... the chucks fail the tools lock up. We use them for work and I cringe when I have to use the drills because they always have problems. The hammer drills, grinders I have always liked but had issues with the guard covers and such on the grinders.

[@mathiassmith5667]

I admit that the wonky batteries were what steered my away when I was looking for a new platform. But I really like and respect Hilti as a brand. I feel like they represent the higher end of quality build and robustness and taming power a bit to maintain that, which is a viable strategy. Milwaukee seems to have a bit of the Dodge approach, flashy numbers and marketing, it’s insane while it lasts but it just feels less refined. Makita hit the Goldilocks zone especially with the xgt drills.

[@TinkerWithTools]

You hit on the head. They aim for stability and reliability while getting the job done. I have had decent luck with my milwaukees but in my opinion the Bosch and the Hilti are built differently

[@TacticalThib]

​@@TinkerWithToolsthere German made tools lol built very different the Bosh will push until it smokes lmao no quit in the Bosh it's either get it done or die!!! LMAO push that Bosh hard and watch the smoke 😂

[@boblee211]

I have had their original 22v impact and hammer drill from a kit I bought years ago that I used for commerical metal roofing and panels, they're the best. I've seen dewalts, makitas, and Milwaukees fail or just not last as long on a single battery. I never had to have more than 2 5.0 batts.

[@TinkerWithTools]

They are definitely built to last.

[@JackJackKcajify]

3:52, with the Milwaukee m18, that looked like a soft spot in the wood. it really did look soft.

[@MrDontcareify]

Question: do you know why Hilti uses a 22 volt battery instead of a 20 volt battery? Side note: the performance of that Makita drill driver was insane…I had no idea that the Makita drill driver had outrageous numbers like that.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Honestly I don’t. Their previous platform before Nuron was 22 volt too. Their bread and butter in my opinion is some of the bigger power draw tools used in more industrial applications so it perhaps has something to do with that. On the Makita, it’s my favorite hammer drill. For the stuff I use it’s consistently impressive how quick it is.

[@Biaanca5036]

bigger current-lane probably keeps the motor colder for longer And a lot of hilti's specialization is in big stuff and cordless demolition hammers so a bigger voltage lane helps a little bit. It's the same with Makita's 40v in that the 'small one-handed-tools' are just an afterthought for convenience(rather than utility) in makita's 40v lineup . Possibly also to circumvent the 5-cell 18volt patent by just using a 6-cell 24v system instead. Kobalt did this and that's probably why their small battery only costs ~30$ new(well.. pre-pandemic.)

[@jacksmith2315]

​@Orin Bnca milwaukees patent is with lithium ion packs. Doesnt matter if its 18v and 4-6 cells or 12v. If you're using a lithium ion pack with round cells, its paid milwaukee for the rights to be used

[@seandelmundo5048]

@@TinkerWithTools 22 volt is the sweet spot for a single platform raging from drill drivers up to breakers based on Hiltis R&D. The aim of nuron is to put the most range of tools into one platform , costing less for customers to buy diff kind of batteries for different applications.

[@twinkyunouwantmycreamfilli8297]

Probably to get around Milwaukee's patent. Though im not sure if their patent is just for the 18v lithium or the lithium packs in general.

[@bluemantom77]

Hilti is premium precision they're not the best in the bunch on actual specs in use but will get the job done I think it's a personal preference some people like them some people don't I've used them I'd use German metabo I've used Fein Bosch these are all precision tools sometimes being the fastest isn't always the greatest getting it done precisely is what you want I started out with DeWalt 14.4v nicad batteries in 1994 I would help my father as a mechanic assistant hand him tools do certain tasks for him they taught me how to do I was 17 I still have both tools the reciprocating saw was a porter cable model 629 six-speed USA made 8 amp heavy-duty it got the job thank you for sharing this video

[@TinkerWithTools]

German Metabo is one of the last few brands I don't have experience with. I have a 12v brushed drill of theirs but I want to get the bigger 18v stuff soon.

[@porkchop7652]

But it didn't get the job done, did you watch the whole vid with the spade bit ?

[@bluemantom77]

​@@TinkerWithToolsi think there was quite a few people that I know that would want to own metabo Christ alone and have a decent amount of tools will set you back bashas another brand that doesn't get no respect really everyone talks more about Milwaukee DeWalt Makita I like Bosch and it seems like that's a niche brand if you like it or you hate it the market's not as wide as it used to in this country but outside this country bosch is just like hiti Milwaukee DeWalt it gets respect

[@Amber57499]

Your keyboard has dots and commas, use them!

[@QuockhanhPham20]

With the price for only 2 tools 2 battery and a charger i still choose other brand for cheaper Price but they still can done my jobs easily

[@TinkerWithTools]

663 USD for me before applicable taxes.

[@DavidWilson-fr1et]

I've been using cordless tools for a good 15 years now, half of which has been possibly in one if not THE harshest environment you could be using power tools in; which is the sewage networks of a major city, and I've had Bosch tools fail me or just flat out not being able to keep up with what we need to do, I've gone through maybe 3 in the space of 7 years. Hilti has not. I've inherited one that was already a good 5 or 6 years old when I started at my current job, and to this day it's still going. It's ridiculous. We even once dropped it in the tunnels and it was partially submerged for a good 2 or so hours before we realised it. That was 3 years ago. The battery had to be disposed of. The tool itself is still going strong and outpaces my mate's 36v Bosch hammer.

[@TinkerWithTools]

They are made tough.

[@stauker.1960]

Holy crap that Makita was fast. I like what Hilti and Makita are doing. It's as if they understand that bigger batteries aren't more comfortable to use all day. Heck, I'm not a fan of Milwaukee 6ah batteries for that very reason: heft.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Right battery for the tool and job is my approach. There are times that the big battery makes sense and other times it doesn’t.

[@jacksmith2315]

​@@TinkerWithTools exactly. You dont want a 6+ ah on a drill or impact, thats what a 2ah is for. But for a sawzall or circ saw you do want a 6ah. Would be silly to run a sawzall or circ saw with a 2ah.

[@stauker.1960]

@@TinkerWithTools if I can use the same tool on the same job with a smaller battery or tool, I will. Working ten hour shifts means comfort is as big of a priority as capability.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I agree. Power makes for a flashy video but in real every day use, ergonomics and comfort is more of a factor for me.

[@unseenunknown7664]

I was going to add this line to my arsenal of tools, I used these tools, I like these tools while I had access to them. I can't say I won't ever buy them, I realized that I have more drills and impacts than the rest of my family combined, they worry about me sometimes, but truth at hand is a lot of the other lines easily match performances like you said and I experienced and the only reason to have them is to have them. Sometimes I think ego and envy drives the market in a way. I'm victim of it myself.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I think that they make less sense for someone like myself than they do for a business that needs optimal uptime and quick repair. They make a lot of sense in that world I think.

[@unseenunknown7664]

I feel the same, they fit in the Fein and Festool ballpark.@@TinkerWithTools

[@TrixieDK]

I like Hilti somewhat, but I also think that to justify the higher price you must take advantage of the build quality and warranty. If you don't, you might as well opt for other brands for less money. I do think the test was a bit unfair for the Bosch, as the drill was designed for the 8ah battery it performs a lot worse with the smaller batteries. And since the Nuron batteries are huge, why not just go with the proper Bosch 8ah battery? The Makita XGT drill is a winner for sure.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I thought about going with the 8ah but then you have the comments about it being unfair to the Hilti... Tool comps won't always be perfect... but I would also expect the Hilti to jump up on the 8ah battery they have as well.

[@tomasmcenery5905]

When I started my carpentry apprenticeship in 1998 here in Ireland, the builder I worked for bought nothing but Hitli drills or Kango's, which we're used by everyone and not treated well, they were good robust but slow, and very expensive at the time aswell, in 1999 I bought my own dewalt 18v drill driver 2 battery's charger and a case, cost me about 3 weeks wages, but every apprentice had to have there own, it was brilliant and lasted 4 years and did alot of work, after that I tried atlas capco which is now milwaukee, was very expensive at the time but I was curious, turned out to be absolute crap 1 Yr and motor was toast,, got a year out of a cheap ryobi, then Hitachi 2and half yrs, then bosch 2 yrs, then I bought hilti again and got 4yrs before it went, but was good drill, by this time dewalt were then selling drills and impact drivers together so I bought the set, 2 batterys 1 charger impactor and drill, and the best case I'd ever seen of any tool brand, so I'd come full circle, impacter last 6yrs and did a mountain of work, and the drill is still going admittedly I don't use it as much because I prefer the impactor, but I don't bother with any other brands other than dewalt, value for money, performance, reliability, ergonomics, back up service, it's a no brainier for me

[@SkilledLabor]

Nice video! At the end of the day you use what you like, depends what type of job you have. If your sinking large screws on a construction site, that SID 6 prob wouldn’t be the best option. If your in hvac like myself, you won’t notice the difference sinking smaller sheet metal screws and construction screws up to 4” I was all about power myself being heavily invested in Milwaukee, but over time had some Problems with their tools and gave Hilti a go. They are very nice tools and very comfortable/smooth operating. Once you have the batteries/charger, any additional tools are very reasonable. Their look/molding are second to none. That makita drill is sweet. Just can’t get past the teal!

[@TinkerWithTools]

When you are doing sheet metal fasteners do you prefer dedicated mode for that or do it all just with trigger feel?

[@SkilledLabor]

@@TinkerWithToolsmy impacts always are in high speed for any 1/4”-5-16” sheet metal screws., any screws/lags/tapcons longer the same in general. Realistically it’s in high speed for every task, using the variable speed trigger as needed. With tapcons I’ll narrow down the trigger to not strip anything out. And that’s with all impacts I’ve used over the years ranging from Milwaukee Gen 2-4 and Hilti SID4-6.

[@2ASPARKY]

haha same milwaukee just failed on me with their gen 4 stuff and switched to hilti late january haven’t looked back since

[@aaronperez7597]

It’s not mentioned but The drill has a 1/4 rotation safety stop so it won’t snap your wrist

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks for mentioning. It’s getting more common to have that feature on premium drills that it stands out more when it’s not there.

[@IMPACT-NATION]

My favorite video to date brother. Great job buddy. I’ve held those Hilti’s and 😍😍😍. Just didn’t pull the trigger. Definitely regret it😂. Not always about power👌

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks man. I went back and forth a few times for sure.

[@peterigrenyi9176]

I changed my 10 your old hilti kit to Neuron platform last year. The batteries are amazing. Hold charge so much better than anything else. I now charge batteries once a month or every two weeks or so.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Good info. Thanks for sharing!

[@emile-a2394]

Makita the Beast!!!

[@mijboogie]

Just go for a Milwaukee m12 impact driver. Much lighter, easier to carry and very strong.

[@themanthemyth8]

First off I have been in construction for 19 years.on the job Hilti beats all

[@robertcasey3528]

Ill take the Hilti, Makita and Bosch.

[@bobbywoemack3334]

These tests never really push how reliable the tool is. A Hilti will last forever. I'll sacrifice speed or even torque for a tool I know will be sold at a garage sale 10 years later, still working. And that's what Hilti make.

[@mattek519]

The hammer drill actually looks amazing. The bosch looks dub tho

[@txvet7738]

How was the buying experience? Since they aren’t in the box stores how do you purchase their products?

[@TinkerWithTools]

This will be a little long but it’s worth mentioning. You can buy the tools online with Home Depot but not everything is available so I went through Hilti directly. I looked at doing it online and the shipping costs were substantial compared to other that offer free shipping. Between 30 and 95 dollars depending on speed. You can then order and pick up in store but only if it’s in stock. I considered getting different tools but this was what was in stock at my store. In the end I went to the store to make the purchase and the guys there were nice and helpful. But it’s not as simple as buying with other brands.

[@stauker.1960]

​@@TinkerWithTools thank you for the detail man

[@jacksmith2315]

​@@TinkerWithTools cant you also get hilti through grainger? Prob pay a little more. Or a professional supply store like plumbing or hvac supply store. Pretty much places specifically for professionals, which again is going to cost more

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah, there are other places you can buy. It's just not quite as accessible as the "big name" brands. But they cater to a different crowd and drills and impact drivers are hardly their bread and butter.

[@stauker.1960]

It's hard to convey just how little of their business is built around tools. They are a construction and fastening company, not a tool company. They sell tools so that you can buy everything you need from one company- bits, bolts, and other big stuff that I don't care about and neither do you. Their customer is your boss, and his boss

[@nicko5945]

Oh I’ve wanted to go to the Hilti store by the spaghetti bowl for awhile but I don’t get up north enough anymore. I do like the Nuron platform but one silly thing that I hate is the battery and it’s aesthetic. I love the look of the Hilti tools with the normal batteries since those batteries complement the tools. The Nuron batteries look so ugly on the tool. Great video as always!!

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks! The batteries are big for sure. They aren’t necessarily heavier and it should make them more durable.

[@nicko5945]

@@TinkerWithTools very good point indeed. I’m dying to see the hammer drill competition you mentioned as well. Have a great weekend and happy Easter. 🐇

[@TinkerWithTools]

Happy Easter to you as well. Hopefully you are getting some warmer weather down there now. I am done with the snow for sure!

[@imperialsecuritybureau6037]

I dunno, the angular aesthetic is quite utilitarian and gives it a sturdy look. In terms of the function which leads to the form, the fact that it’s a 6S 21700 pack makes it better than almost every other platform, except for Flex. The battery is big but having a slim pack of 6 21700s makes it more capable than a chunky double-row 18650 pack

[@sizif717]

What does "wear and tear" mean in this case of the Hilti warranty?

[@TinkerWithTools]

Per Hilti they will cover repairs at no cost except for: Wear and tear coverage excludes damage due to abuse, or use not in accordance with the tool operator’s manual.

[@davesheppard8797]

As I stated in an earlier reply, my old Hilti SF6H A22 got dropped down a deep street drain by my old assistant. It came out pretty horrible but still worked alright apart from sounding weird on the run-out. I called my Hilti rep and he was with me within half an hour with a replacement drill. Mine was back within 24 hours and looked like a brand new drill. It was over a year old and I was charged nothing!! I don't know if it makes a difference but I live in England. Dave.

[@marklanahan7289]

They used to do a monthly payment scheme. Rep came on site and you bought tools on a monthly payment. Rep would collect once a month cash. Great idea. All their tools were 20% dearer than the rest but everything lasts for ever. I have loads of 110v stuff thats still going strong and most has never had a service. From the mid 80s. 2 x TE10, 1 TE17, 2 x DX450, 3 x Drywall guns, a jigsaw, 2 x lasers.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Kind of like tool truck but just power tools.

[@benjaminsaturday8300]

Customer Service is the one test needed.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I haven’t tested warranty repairs with Hilti but every interaction I have had at my local store has been top notch.

[@neilxrprunsonrippleferrin3904]

Great video bro, I love all my power tools for different reasons, but you won't get a better drywall collated gun than the hilti..

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks! I appreciate you sharing!

[@Griffinwoodworks]

I would’ve loved to went with Hilti when I switched to Milwaukee, but the nearest store is 3 hours away in Dallas and I’m not doing that every time I need a new tool for a job lol. I wonder how much they miss in sales by not being in a big box.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Fair point. I have a store local but it’s still a 25 minute drive unless I am at my work and that has bed. A deterrent for a few years for me so I am assume it’s affecting more than just me and you. But it comes down to what they focus is.

[@davesheppard8797]

@TinkerWithTools Hilti deal a lot with huge construction firms who get the tools on a fleet management system. So you pay so much a month. At the end of 3 years, Hilti replace all your tools for brand new and it all continues. Hilti's terrific after sales service means these huge construction firms have virtually no down time with damaged tools. I am 60 years old so have no intention of changing platform now, plus I don't see the point of Nuron for me. Milwaukee gear is junk so if I didn't use Hilti I would use Makita. Dave.

[@beatdirector1]

Just call them and they will come to you. That is the best part. To try tools on real condition and when you take a tool in your hand you know what you are paying.

[@Kk-bq8sw]

You should have ran the Milwaukee gen 4 hammer drill

[@TinkerWithTools]

If we revisit it I’ll be sure too.

[@TacticalThib]

Amazing video brother 🙌 this is in my top 5 favorite videos you have ever made I was so curious about the Hilti and almost bought it but when I added the batteries and charger in the cart I was shocked 😳 on the price and I just couldn't justify the spending almost 700 for a kit. Second I wanna thank you for putting the xgt in there so people can see how amazing these Makita xgt tools really are. There's a KZbinr who absolutely bashed the XGT said it was garbage and the rigid brushless was better 😂 🤓 so I'm so glad everyone can actually see what these tools can do against other amazing tools 🔥🔥 that Makita xgt drill is amazing 😍 I'm absolutely in love with it and the impact driver as well so you say the Hilti has a better feel than the xgt that's saying a lot!! Again thanks for making my Saturday morning all smiles sir and thanks to you!!!

[@SkilledLabor]

If your near a store, go in, open an account and you will get better pricing than online stuff just an fyi.

[@IMPACT-NATION]

👌👌

[@IMPACT-NATION]

@@SkilledLabor we opened an account just for curiosity sakes. A few months ago I was interested in the cut off saw so I wanted to see the price difference between the Nuron and xgt. Opening an account definitely gets you a better discount

[@SkilledLabor]

@@IMPACT-NATION yes sir

[@TinkerWithTools]

The price was certainly a sticking point for me for at least a year now. I'm happy I have them but they are spendy for sure!

[@redrhino3041]

Answer is yes it is

[@walterrcan]

Hilti nuron my favorite

[@WilliamBrown-bg7vm]

I got the Fuel drill and driver. The drill is ok, honestly the driver is so damn good the drill just pales in comparison. But for $350 it’s not easy to beat.

[@TinkerWithTools]

That was a good choice. I have loved mine.

[@thereloadingcraft]

Great video!

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks!

[@krismont]

hilti is 22V , it's on every battery; unless in europe

[@ManCaverTools]

great video bro.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks man!

[@stauker.1960]

You two stand beside project farm and torque test channel. Great work guys, thank you both.

[@TinkerWithTools]

Thanks man! The support means a lot!

[@riba2233]

That impact really needs more modes, at least imho. And idk why they declared it for such high torque number

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah the torque number is perplexing. It’s specs should equal better performance.

[@jameskitson5082]

How mich longer do the nuron batteries last compared to the original 22v ones?

[@TinkerWithTools]

I don’t have any of the non-Nuron tools so I am not sure I am the best person to answer it. At the end of the day a 4ah battery will be 4ah so they should last similar. But the new batteries to have better heat management and more advanced electronics to optimize their use so you might experience some gains but I wouldn’t expect huge differences.

[@davesheppard8797]

@TinkerWithTools I never have any heat issues with my Hilti standard batteries or the drills themselves. Milwaukee drills get very hot very quickly!! Dave.

[@t.armstrong3119]

I think what turned me off was that they are built in China for what they charge (which clearly is for the 20 year warranty).

[@UncleIvan1]

and people still bash makita 🙄

[@MrDontcareify]

That drill driver was crazy.

[@Biaanca5036]

That drill driver was crazy.

[@bread-gz3rl]

Yeah because anything after 2015 has the least durable motors in them and they want like 250 CAD for a brushed drill and a 1.5AH

[@UncleIvan1]

@@bread-gz3rl what are you talking about? the only kit that comes with 1.5 ah batteries is the subcompact one. when it comes to quality, it always inconsistent naturally if it's assembled in China. That being said makita is still owned by makita Japan. Can't say that about other " top brands "

[@UncleIvan1]

@@bread-gz3rl I have few brushed tools, but they are not it.

[@user-wy4oy6di4x]

No one talks about the hand arm vibration figures compared to competitors. That’s why they’re so pricy

[@dommendoza]

I hope he continues with that 36v of hilti, it's sure to have a stronger performance. WHAT happened, why didn't it continue with 36v? HILTI. I still believe in its durability

[@TinkerWithTools]

I have any immediate plans to test anything older from Hilti, but if the opportunity presents itself, I'll be sure to bring it to the channel.

[@vitolazlo5767]

Dewalt, Milwaukee, and mekita, are all comparable and very reliable. I use Dewalt the most. I had a bosch impact gun fail on med pretty quick. in would never buy them again. They have other things I would buy.

[@GJSfTec]

Nice Review. Hilt is not striving for fastest better numbers. Its an overall experience. Repairs parts available for 20yrs from now! match that (RED Blue Yellow) Price cap repairs! failed to mention. No mater the issue hilt has a price cap on repairs meaning is more cost effective to repair than throwaway. I do believe RED also has a price cap on repairs. In comparison of the tools adding vibration into the equation would be awesome. Hilti's AVR is awesome in concrete tools. But that still doesn't mean they didn't incorporate that into the other tools. Noise level was less in hilti as you demonstrated. big deal on a job site or small inclosure. Should test noise in a box and outside of a box on all tools as well as vibration while using it!

[@TinkerWithTools]

It's a fair point but as for any measure of vibration it would just be subjective at this point. I am not set up for any equipment to be able to measure that.

[@PFLX113]

In germany the SID 6-22 bare Tool Costs about 420$ why are they in de us so cheap?! With 2 batteries and a charger it will cost about 1000$

[@TinkerWithTools]

I don't know what reason for such a price disparity would be.

[@PFLX113]

@ for 200$ bare tool and 100$ for a battery I’m all in give it to me 😂

[@rollsroycegotti9587]

this video shows me why i buy milwaukee thank you

[@TinkerWithTools]

Glad it was helpful.

[@kruszy76]

Best tool platform

[@hajrullahfetahu3339]

Bosch Professional, best price-perfomance 💪 Take the 8ah battery and then you have the power from Biturbo technology. Great video! 👏

[@TinkerWithTools]

Yeah the Bosch is a different beast on the 8. Ran it on the 4 today so it was a better comparison.

[@diagorasmoustakas249]

Faster dosnt mean better .HIKTI IS LONG LASTING TOOLS 🔥💯.They dont care about speed and bla bla bla .They care about strong tool so you can abuse it and still works ,plus warranty 20 years

[@klipschkef0144]

Let's cut to the chase, HILTI doesn't give a shit about on how fast it can drive the screw or the drill bit whereas the other tool brand such as dewalt, milwaukee and makita etc only give a shit about the power of the tools. Hilti is aiming for professional end user like big company and they do only care about the reliability of their tools and their after sales service. Their tools design to get the job done in a average speed and their tools design to LAST FOREVER if not LAST LONGER THAN ANY OTHER BRAND.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I agree. Their focus is different than most brands!

[@JthaEngineer]

I would not recommend Hilti tools for general wood working or wood construction. Hilti has some of the best post-installed concrete & CMU anchors on the market. Their bread & butter is anchoring to concrete for the commercial construction world.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I think if you are one their platform for other things, they can make sense... but if you aren't using the "bread and butter" as you called it, the price is harder to justify. They will still get the job done and they are very nice to use, but there are more budget friendly premium tools that can do that as well.

[@JthaEngineer]

100% agree. Their concrete anchors, their epoxy systems & tools they specifically made for their items is what got them to where they are. Hilti will tell you that themselves that it is their "bread & butter". But I guess my point, although horribly communicated, is there's no need to get into this line unless you're doing a lot of post-installed concrete work.

[@davesheppard8797]

@JayGarthPE I have to disagree about the Hilti's. I am a carpenter joiner/ General maintenance man and the SF6H A22 is the best combi I've used in over 40 years. For drilling serial holes in concrete, I use my TE6 A22. Another great piece of kit. All on the old batteries though. Dave.

[@Tides212]

Milwaukee guy here. These new impact are crazy fast. That being said, fast isn’t always better. If I had the funds & availability, Hilti all the way

[@FreeNDeed777]

Milwaukee is the Glock of power tools. Dewalt is the Smith and Wesson. Makita is the CZ.

[@TinkerWithTools]

And which would you pick given that comparison?

[@hlee5200]

Hilti 所以说HILTI的小电动工具依旧是智商税……😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@CaptainBreny]

i do not like hilti as they are the reasoning we dont get red packouts in europe :(

[@TinkerWithTools]

I didn’t know that was the reason.

[@CaptainBreny]

@@TinkerWithTools after what ive read thats it. Very sad cause i do not like the black packouts. There is a milwaukee retailer here i Norway wich is importing 1 type of packout case from the states but the price is almost 200 dollars

[@TinkerWithTools]

I think packouts are great quality and the ecosystem is fantastic but I have a hard time justifying the cost for them, for my situation. But I also think the other solutions from DeWalt, Flex and others are good quality too. We are lucky to have a lot of options. Sorry that you don't get the same amount over there.

[@danielmedinaherraiz9390]

Es que no entiendo que propósito tienen estos vídeos haciendo pruebas comparativas con otras marcas. Lo que tendría sentido es comprarlas a la larga en un tiempo prolongado de trabajo una marca contra la otra, viendo la degradación de baterías, el desempeño de los motores , los sistemas de seguridad que tienen , que por supuesto hilti gana a las demás marcas muy sobradamente y este tipo de cosas, no hay que valorar los tiempos de trabajo, que a pesar de ser importantes no son el único punto a tener en cuanta, manos tienes una y si una máquina te la parte te acordarás de la diferencia

[@TinkerWithTools]

Long term durability and reliability is certainly something to consider but unfortunately it's not something that is easy to provide as a tool reviewer.

[@SosaR-h4p]

Slowest most expensive and least torque what exactly are we paying for Milwaukee has officially took over power tools all that’s left for them to make is a wetsaw and more masonry / tile tools and they are gonna be americas #1 brand they are already better than dewalt in every aspect

[@TinkerWithTools]

While I get the point of what you are saying the warranty and service is the aspect of what you are paying for. No one else in the industry comes close to it.

[@glenarseneau1231]

For the price and the size of the battery I would stay away from hilti

[@robertrada4783]

Double fisting XGT and Nuron for everything but the nailers in cordless. Life is good.

[@bholdr----0]

They're worth the $$$ when one of them breaks, and they send a van out with a brand new (or remanufactured) one, same day, no questions, no hassle! THAT's a huge part of what one is paying for. ...Theyre pretty slick, too (but $700 slick? 🤔 I dont know about that! One could just buy three DeFault's instead, I suppose... Maybe the difference is that pro gear like Hilti's tools are built to do a job and do it well, wheras 'pro-sumer' tools from the big box stores are built to a price point... 'AVE' is a great channel that, in his 'BOLTR' playlist, dissects in detail the various tool ls and brands and makes that distinction well: He explains how we get what we pay for, almost without exception... And he's definitely not a shill.) Cheers!

[@TinkerWithTools]

When you are on a fleet account you are getting that type of service. I don’t know if a single consumer would get the van treatment but the warranty and reliability is a big part of of what you are paying for.

[@bholdr----0]

@@TinkerWithTools Yeah, thats true... I dont know either. But, for the price...!

[@2loco]

Batteries are too big for my liking. I'll pass on the hilti.

[@SerahHannah-2024]

No

[@Daniel-uf9vm]

Garbage. My gun stopped working after 3 months the battery lose contact with the gun and the gun loses power. Hilti refused to fix it. Garbage. Not recommended

[@TinkerWithTools]

Sorry it stopped working. Did they give a reason as to why they wouldn’t fix it?

[@ckone671]

New Hilti is nothing special, very unimpressed with Nuron. Back to the drawing board.

[@TinkerWithTools]

I haven’t tried the prior stuff but the drill was impressive for me.

[@davesheppard8797]

I agree @ckone671. I love my Hilti's on the old batteries. I don't see the point or particular benefits of Nuron. Dave.

[@Cali4life03]

999 missed calls from h1tl