Is Hollywood doomed, or can it recover from its seemingly terminal death spiral?

[@AleanKasandra]

Crafted vs. assembled is a thought-provoking concept, definitely relevant to products and services created today, not only the movie industry.

[@gruntaxeman3740]

Major problem is that they do not dare to take risks. Instead they copy-paste same story templates and not enough passion for art.

[@dannyseville2543]

I'd add in that if a film wants to appeal to a particular idea, that is fine. What isnt fine though is when it bombs, calling everyone (usually the majority of people) some ist or phobic for not liking it. I dont just mean woke here but that is the biggest example if it. That creates the downward spiral which we can see with the big franchises. Also add in getting cast and staff that want to respect the movie they are coming into. Nothing can put people off more than some brat insulting well loved films of the past.

[@blackmage471]

It's almost the _exact_ same problem in video game development. The majority of AAA titles are clones of previous successful video games because shareholders and CEOs (who know nothing about video games or their development) want lightning to strike the same spot twice, whilst also making unreasonable demands of the development studio. The only notable difference is while movies get money thrown at them, game publishers want developers to make games fast on as low a budget as possible. But it's otherwise the same problem. New IPs in AAA video games are increasingly rare, because, like with film companies, they're over-reliant on a familiar title to carry the entire film. Like, there are TWENTY Call of Duty games. THIRTY Assassin's Creed games (13 of them are main installments, the rest are spin-offs). It's obnoxious.

[@ivanessin]

I was just listening to a podcast earlier today where they quoted George Lucas lamenting that the Soviet movie makers of the time had more freedom in their works because the Hollywood movies always had to be money focused and that really limited what he could do. Love this, would love to see more.

[@deakgallaszlo3488]

I agree with every single thought I heard here... except for Ryan as a brilliant writer. He's a good director but can't write a cohesive script to save his life. Both of his Knives Out movies and Looper for that matter bleed from just as many wounds as TLJ. Don't want to end on a negative note, so I would like to say I'm glad I subscribed to this channel. I thought only tutorials would be uploaded here, but I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the title, and even more when I watched the full video. Keep up the good work, I will surely be here to watch it.

[@tamingthejungleanallotment5486]

I kind of agree with you over the budget thing... it does seem to hamper cteativity. The vision is still there, but its how that vision is brought to life. Its seems everything now is filmed infront of a green screen, and the rest done with CGI - which if done badly can kill the best of movies. There are literally millions of stories out there that are just waiting to be made in film, but instead the studios (ok, so pretty much everything is owned by Disney now) just keep sticking to the same franchises instead of taking a small risk in creating something new.

[@rbd1303]

Number 1 rule is avoid Disney

[@lafayettemclaren5195]

The thing that drives me nuts about disney is it feels like they just play everything "safe" and not even like a "oldie but a goldie" but rather balancing to be non-controversial and flashy to try and lean towards every fucking taste pallette resulting in something soulless and bland like a boring takeout Lo Mein. Andor was not afraid to be controversial and actually talk and thats why its so bloody good. Andor has APPARENTLY broken up relationships with how it is

[@rbd1303]

@@lafayettemclaren5195 Aye, nice username. Hamilton fan? Or is this something else I’m just incredibly unaware of 😂

[@DamanDaman-qe3eu]

Not gonna lie, diseny would totaly make a modern racist film. If they had the balls to do so, and not care much what other people think, it shouldnt be about "pleasing the audience, its about making a good fucking film​@lafayettemclaren5195

[@ANTIStraussian]

The creator was owned by a Disney company.

[@lafayettemclaren5195]

Named after the general because of the Revolutionary War, not because of Hamilton, but i get that a lot, especially cause i work around theatre types.

[@coolnegative]

Movies are also filled too much with clutter. As the old adage goes...... "sometimes less is more." Starting with the SW prequels where George just tried cramming far to many things into every scene because CGI made it possible.

[@Cr00lz]

A conplete explanation why Most of the best Star Wars releases of the last decade were Fan made. Investors only fandom Investment and Return, never the subject they in invested in

[@STho205]

This happened before in the late 60s early 70s. The studios had run through all the ideas of the old guard and the successful mid 60s TV director/writers by 1969. Universal, Paramount and Fox kept making sequels that now looked like TV shows (Apes 2, 3, 4, 5), plodding remakes of epics but with aging former talent or directors out of ideas. Lots of political POV flix to either justify Nam or damned The Man...lots of racial tension flix....then a steady run of movie TV in cinemascope. These were mostly produced by the accounting department and in house staff producers. They were derivative of depression era comedies. Low risk, low result, low reward. Some disaster films. Some pointless stunt films. A couple of very talented gritty directors occurred out of the independent film set and in 73 and 74 they started bring in talented film school graduates and ABC movie of the week directors. From them you got the new golden age of the 80s that started as a once a year blockbuster fluke in 1976/77.

[@sipioc]

Things should be allowed to fail. That way other things can step up and fill the void.

[@stephenkissane4268]

A massive problem is they re write as.. they film and some films don't have a written ending.

[@Supersurfer12]

It has been a long time since I have seen a film have a satisfying ending

[@robertthomas6363]

Answer: no. ... Human beings rarely change. Does the alcoholic swear off alcohol? Or do they pick up the next drink? What is the likelihood of any given alcoholic, faced with a drink on the table in front of them, to pick up and consume that drink, versus deciding that right then is the time to quit? Some alcoholics do reach a breaking point eventually, but many have tragic endings, never choosing to break free of the toxic pattern they created for themselves. For sure, as long as the addict points the finger of blame at others and indulges in demonizing others, they definitely will not resist that drink on the table. ... Hollywood is not just a drunk. They are the nasty, hateful, narcissistic drunk that no audience member will root for.

[@bchristian85]

For Hollywood, the drink is the money. What's going on right now is unsustainable and eventually they are going to be forced to change. The only way to make an alcoholic change is to take the drink. It's up to moviegoers to boycott the fecal matter being force fed to all of us.

[@themightyflog]

My question is why don't they find directors like the Godzilla Minus guy and instead of 1 big blockbuster at 150 million they could do like 10 for the same price with the right directors.

[@maciejilski7185]

They will eventually. Market will force them.

[@nairocamilo]

Budget reduction, although it shouldn't, always seems to me like the last thing would happen As I see it, the suits would immediately jump at the chance to reduce initial costs, but then again that would mean risking losing return anyway. However, if more and more films come out from the low-cost/high-appraisal "formula", I imagine they'd finally bite that. Probably from hiring the same director and expecting everything to happen again, because these people honestly seem to live in an extraplanar out-of-touch dimension

[@Supersurfer12]

I like to think things will get better. The new He-Man Revolution fixed so many problems with He-Man Revelations

[@Rockmanbalboa]

on Solo case don't forget they also putting blame on the actor for its fail to succeed, i actually disagree a bit on the prequels point, the second movie is the only to me that feels can get on this notion, on Ryan Johnson is not that great he just seems that way, but his writing is not strong, i personally didn't like Andor because of its directing and some narrative points, i felt it was only good because the others were failing, but i also agree it stuck to a vision and it helped the series at least survive with a cult following as it was not very well divulged.

[@masamune2984]

Rule #1: If you aren’t taking a risk, you are taking a risk.

[@impertin3nz]

That's deep, man 🧙🏻‍♂️😊

[@colehiggins111]

Brilliant, think you’re spot on with the lower budgets.

[@furynotes]

I actually disagree with the Mandoloran flying under the radar. I argue that has been the same through all its seasons. People got mad about the backlash of particular actress. Who was Questionable to begin with. I just shake my head being disappointed with that actress. Its her fault. You see her work after Star Wars. I'm like it what it is. The only thing I agree with you with slicing budgets. But then I see how much those Star Wars shows are. Then I think to myself. Yeah. Considering its bleeding edge tech for most of the VFX work. That might be a bad idea.

[@bored8321]

Hollywood is doomed, it is up for independent studios to take the mantle AFK studios have made much engaging media that is far more enjoyable despite its short showtimes, when compared to current features length films from Hollywood

[@bchristian85]

Independent studios are what's currently saving video games and music. Problem is for film, there's so much big money that it's hard for independent studios to get their films into theaters.

[@jonathanhirschbaum6754]

Very nice commentary

[@3dchick]

😉Such an excellent analysis! Only aided by the fact that, since Talky Orcs, I "see" one of them when you speak. Just adds a little zest.

[@scottewing2031]

Very astute rant. 👍

[@r.morris5589]

yep

[@blrun129]

Spot on, there hasn’t been any “blockbuster”’in years that had me in way interested

[@gruntaxeman3740]

I interested Dune and coming part II. Before that interesting "blockbuster" was... Bridge of Spies Six years without interesting movies was long time.

[@r.morris5589]

Hollywood is past doomed.

[@impertin3nz]

Short answer: I hope not.

[@urienvivosinlatido]

Experiment with money is a waste, exoeriment without money ie generate creativity

[@VRaySchool]

You forgot to mention Go Woke Go Broke

[@HeadhunterKev96]

I would call 50 mio. dollars low budget but I know what you mean. Great ideas!

[@chrisby30]

I agree

[@olaspaz3079]

It feels like ideas are being flogged to death. And some of the stars just aren't that charismatic. But they must be making money because they keep doubling down.

[@oxideking3011]

Of course, wth

[@markpugh1064]

Steven King son

[@susanmctavish6639]

The best days of Hollywood are already behind us. Can't recreate and duplicate it. Thanks for showing my favorite movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark.

[@impertin3nz]

💯

[@bchristian85]

Not necessarily. Hollywood has had numerous eras in it's history. What's going on now is unsustainable and it's not if but when market forces force them to make a change.

[@markpugh1064]

It's dies

[@autisticlegionnaire3624]

They do have a singular vision. It's called "The Message."

[@JohnRoberts-wk6rf]

The original Star Wars trilogy didn't try to stuff woke socialism down your throat. People can see through that, too.

[@Styphon]

It was always political. It was always political by design.

[@franklinblunt69]

Thanks for the commentary. Never will regard much less patronize or support anything such people are involved, overtly expressed -isms -ists & else, ridiculous undeserved self-aggrandizing, harmful agenda-driven propaganda, & such ethic are insulting, unrelatable, & repulsive. How are they financed much less sustainable except undeserved indulgence, bailout, propup, & subsidize from Federal fiat via complicit DEI promoting kleptocrat, bankster, & corporateer?

[@LuxisAlukard]

Yes, modern blockbuster movies are bad. Too many people are producing, writing, directing... And they all do their jobs poorly. And they spend a lot of movie budget on drugs. There, three reason why franchise movies flop :)