Is It a Sin to Have a Picture of Jesus?

[@blackoutninja]

Delighted to see a nuanced, intelligent discussion of this subject from a Baptist Pastor, and one at that with a deep and engaged knowledge of Church history

[@PastorScottIngram]

Thank you!

[@MaSTerKNivEE]

Discussion is when at least two people are talking or do you say pastor is debating The Bible?

[@Baekreyes]

Thank you for this video. Yesterday I saw an picture of Jesus in a church room. AndI was concerned about it. Since my background is catholic and I have seen the same image there.

[@PastorScottIngram]

I'm glad this was helpful for you

[@cometojesuschrist8665]

Wouldn’t it be best just to avoid having pictures because not putting the pictures is not a sin but if it is actually wrong to put pictures and we will be judged for doing so.

[@PastorScottIngram]

I think that if you have a conviction about having pictures, you should not have them. I also, as described in the video, don’t see anything wrong biblically in portraying Jesus in artwork.

[@treasurejmjoseph2079]

100%

[@LonerStonER217]

@@PastorScottIngram how do we know what he looked like? What if that picture is Lucifer?

[@lexfahey7399]

@@PastorScottIngramwhy would you use fake pictures of Jesus? He was not white, he was literally from Palestine. And also the first picture drawn of him was 300 years after his death by unknown people. The reason that nobody drew him is because they followed the commandments, which says not to make likenesses of things in heaven or earth for the purpose of worshipping them. I think the fake picture of Jesus were drawn to trick people into worshipping an idol. And last of all, our savior wouldn’t look like that!

[@lexfahey7399]

@@LonerStonER217exactly. The picture was drawn after he died. Anybody who uses it is committing a great sin

[@JoseSalloum]

This is my answer, Grace and peace to you from our LORD Jesus Christ, Thank you for your kindness, The ark of the covenant was inside the Holy of Holies, and it wasn’t visible to the people of God in the old testament (Israel), even when they were moving the ark of the covenant in the desert it was covered. God don’t accept that make any image during the worship or as art. You are twisting the word of God God said: De 4:15 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, not only to worship it but also if it was representing God in any way, let me ask you something dear beloved brother, you are a pastor, the statue behind you is it for Jesus or for someone else? Did The Lord Jesus I ask you in any way to make a statue for Him in the New Testament, Did He ask us even to have an artwork? show me please!!! You know and I know that the Bible warned us, because of our knowledge other people do sin against God and could PERISH. do you want that? 1Co 10: 9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. 10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol’s temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; 11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? 12 But when ye sin so against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, ye sin against Christ. You are mentioning the shroud of Turin this is a big lie from the Catholic Church, when we forgot that the LORD Jesus Christ was anointed with 100 pounds of myrrh and aloes, where are they on the shroud? And there came also Nicodemus, which at the first came to Jesus by night, and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes, about an hundred pound weight. Then took they the body of Jesus, and wound it in linen clothes with the spices, as the manner of the Jews is to bury. where is the remaining of these spices on the shroud? This is LIE, And the Jewish people do not Cover the body in this maner. they wrap him" bound hand and foot ". see the example: John 10 : And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound Are we adopting now the philosophy and the teaching from the Catholic Church instead of the Bible? It is not important what you believe and what I believe, what is important is what God teaches, God doesn't care about my beliefs, or your beliefs. He cares that we need to worship Him in Spirit and Truth. You did not mention that in your argument? We don’t worship God by any representation to Him. We don’t need a camera or art work or painting of the LORD Jesus Christ, John 4: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. In addition, if you believe in the incarnation of the LORD Jesus Christ you should obey Him dear pastor. and be an example to the church of God, You should worship God in Spirit not in any representation. Please listen to the message and stop defending your position just to win the argument. You can win the argument but you will deceive the people of God… I am afraid that we have lost the discernment. Please forgive me, if my words are straightforward. I love you in Christ, you are my brother, and if I’m writing these words that is because we should be all closer to God, closer to His heart, closer to His word. Not justifying our deeds with examples from the world, from the Catholic, or orthodox Churches…. Again we should not follow the history we should follow Christ our LORD and obay His word. We should have the mind of Christ. We should worship God in Spirit and Truth, We should worship God according to His Holy word, Please give me one verse in the New Testament that encourages us to do anything physical to God in the place of worship or in our homes. Let us fear God dear brother and pastor. God bless you in the LORD Jesus Christ Name to worship Him with the Father in Spirit and Truth.

[@tomwilliams1849]

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[@PastorScottIngram]

Thanks for your comment. I would disagree.

[@jonjon6717]

A beautiful soul you have. To not use anger or frustration and specify your means here. U showed forgiveness and apologized for any ways u come off in frustration or anger. U showed love in the midst of disagreement and used honesty and no judgement. May The Lord protect our souls and spirit. I keep you and all in my thoughts and prayers for u are my brother(s)(and sisters) in Christ. Stay well and blessed and stay true unto Christ. I am giving myself to Christ and I give it my all to turn my life around and away from sin. Peace be with u brother and whomever shall find this message❤🙏

[@edartex]

Whatever intention have the icons and the statues, sooner or later they lead to be worshiped, so its better to stay far from something that leads astray. Not to mention that we do not have any image how was Jesus, or how was his mother etc...

[@PastorScottIngram]

The worship is the key point in the second commandment. Artistry isn’t a sin. We must not make something sinful that God Himself has not said is sinful.

[@edartex]

@@PastorScottIngram OK artistry in general is not sinful, but surely it has a large range. Maybe that part that leads to sin its better to not mess.

[@tomwilliams1849]

"Sooner or later they lead to worship" speak for yourself buddy.

[@edartex]

Absolutely i agree on this point!

[@tomwilliams1849]

@@edartex no im telling you to speak for yourself and only fools fall for your statement

[@candyclews4047]

Good video. Statues and pictures themselves are not worshiped, they serve as a reminder just as the three-dimensional nativity scene figures put up in my Church reminds me of the birth of Christ. Just as Christmas cards remind me also of his birth (and I often keep my favourites as book marks in my Bible). However, at home, I prefer just to have Scripture verses on plaques up on my walls.

[@PastorScottIngram]

Thanks! I’m glad it was a blessing!

[@dzy3030]

Not when they depict their skin color wrong as well as their facial features.

[@shirleykellison1049]

Thank you I have Jesus poster coming today and I was scared that I got it. You can have images you just can't idolize it

[@PastorScottIngram]

I am glad this was a blessing.

[@cuthbertsboots5733]

Good to see a Baptist pastor who is so well-versed in history and theology! Why aren't you Orthodox?

[@PastorScottIngram]

Thanks! I have studied Orthodoxy quite a bit and visited a local Greek Orthodox Church once. I greatly respect the Orthodox. I have found though that their are some Orthodox traditions that I cannot verify biblically and that is why I am still a Baptist.

[@cuthbertsboots5733]

@@PastorScottIngram Which traditions specifically, if you don't mind me asking?

[@PastorScottIngram]

I don’t mind at all. I cannot agree with praying to the saints. There is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus and we are specifically told not to speak to the dead in scripture. I also do not agree with the idea that the Lord’s Supper becomes the actual body and blood of Christ. I have read the arguments for it being so, but I believe Jesus wasn’t making that assertion within the scripture. I also have seen the tendency among some Orthodox to imply that God doesn’t judge sin and that Christ wasn’t our substitutionary atonement for sin. I don’t see that in all the Orthodox teachers but most certainly lean in that way and that certainly doesn’t agree with the Bible. Those are the top of my list. I think the Orthodox have allowed, over time, for these traditions to come in that don’t agree with what I understand from the scripture that the New Testament church believed.

[@cuthbertsboots5733]

​@@PastorScottIngram I appreciate your willingness to answer my question in detail. How do you come into contact with the Blood of Christ if not through the Eucharist? And what do you think Jesus Christ meant by "This is My Body... This is My Blood..."?

[@cuthbertsboots5733]

@Kile I fail to see how the Blood of Christ is compared to the Spirit in any of those passages. Would you mind going through them? The one from Hebrews only further illustrates the necessity of the doctrine of the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. The blood of bulls and goats was offered upon the altar of the Old Law, and now the perfect Blood of God is offered upon the altar of the New Covenant. Blood was sprinkled on objects to purify them under the Old Law, and now the perfect Blood of Christ is ingested into our bodies and our spirits, thereby purifying them. If all of this was just metaphorical or incorporeal, then there would have been no need for Christ to physically shed His Blood. He could have been immaterial God giving the illusion of death and bloodshed, as the Gnostics said. But we believe in a real, physical Jesus Christ, a God made flesh, and we believe that His physical Body and Blood are not useless, but are constantly given to us in the Eucharist. "My Flesh is true food, and My Blood is true drink. He who eats My Flesh and drinks My Blood abides in Me, and I in him." There is no getting around this, and it is for this reason that many of Christ's disciples left Him, and it is the result of taking this as some kind of metaphor that whenever you ask a Protestant what they think of the hard sayings in John 6 they have wildly different answers. Yes, the Lord's Supper is a continual reminder of the New Covenant, but it is so much more than that. And some of those whom St. Paul addressed in Corinth who did not take it seriously, who did not properly discern the Body and Blood of the Lord, were sick, and others had died on this account. Metaphors don't kill.

[@nicktmcmenamin]

The reality is as children we are exposed to an image of Jesus by an artist, and whenever we think of Jesus as adults we think of that image and it affects how we view other people. Subconsciously, I believe we will view people who look like the image we have of Jesus to be more Godly. This is why people often create an image of Jesus that is closely related to themselves. To say its not important how we paint or sculpt the image of Jesus is a lie as it has powerful effects on how people view other people whether we like it or not. The question to me is, if we cannot trust the images of Jesus that exist, why do we have them at all knowing they will decieve us and be the image many of us will pray to?

[@PastorScottIngram]

I truly believe it is okay to use art to portray God in the flesh because He did come in the flesh.

[@fpcoleman57]

Fascinating subject! It all depends on the meaning of the word "graven" and what you do with the images. Remember also in the history of the Church the Protestant reaction to the practices of the Roman Catholic Church during the Reformation and the later time of the Puritans. This short presentation on a particular subject is great. Maybe do these more often? Sort of bite-sized morsels. Very easy to digest!

[@PastorScottIngram]

Thanks Frank! I’m glad you found it interesting.

[@michaelflores9220]

The word graven means carved/ engraved.

[@mrdonkeyerick5946]

I have a question, so if homosexuality is not in the 10 commandments is it a sin?

[@PastorScottIngram]

I think this video will help you: Is Homosexuality an Unforgivable Sin? kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4rEh2yPgbOrftk

[@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus]

The apostles didn't have idols or images or paint a false jesus .....christ lives in us no need to guess what he looked like ...the only church history we need is the scriptures

[@PastorScottIngram]

I agree that the Bible is the authority but we also live within the world which has a history is certainly to be considered and, more importantly, my arguments are based in scripture for the presentation of Christ.

[@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus]

@@PastorScottIngramBrother the first 300 years of christianity people weren't celebrating Christmas but most do now for some reason ,woman covered there heads in church up until about a hundred years ago or less but don't now for some reason, all the objects that were approved by God were objects commanded by God to make that's the trouble I have with the images if that's not enough it can be a stumbling block for many believers which would call for the stronger in faith brethren to put it away

[@Samuelson8169]

@@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus Agee... When Jesus disciples started spreading the gospel they did not bring any picture or statue of Jesus with them whereas at that time it was very hard to convince people to believe a new teaching.. Christians also were under constant opposition and persecution at that time. The Holy Spirit led and give them power and ability to speak and worked in the hearts of the audience that they believe the gospel..

[@Samuelson8169]

@@PastorScottIngram What defines the truth is the Bible , not culture not tradition not even history . Whatever not inline with what Bible says is not the truth amd should be avoided and should not be followed

[@mtalk828]

@@Repent.Believe.obeyJesus - *Simple Rule: You want to remember Jesus?? DO HOLY COMMUNION. 🤷🏽‍♂️ Jesus said, "do this in remembrance of Me"*

[@mtalk828]

🔴 *Note, I believe (according to the law of Moses) if you have an image in your home that is worshipped by others and not you, it is still prohibited to have that image.* *So, I believe if you know people worship a certain Marian image, and you have that in your house, it's best you replace it for another one. You may not worship or adore it, but it is an idol.* 🤔 My observations

[@PastorScottIngram]

I would agree that we should never worship an object. That is clearly idolatry and should be avoided.

[@OrlenaGEstrada]

what about having picture frames or a knick knacks of angeles?

[@PastorScottIngram]

That would apply to those works of art also.

[@finalbossoftheinternet6002]

Great teaching, God bless you

[@PastorScottIngram]

I'm glad it was a blessing

[@davidshirley4696]

I think since know one knows how Jesus actually looked and that their is no definitive description about his facial features that we should not be using these false images at all.

[@PastorScottIngram]

I respect your opinion, but I hope that you understand my perspective after the explanation in the video as well.

[@LegitimateW]

This channel gives me chills, allowing false image of God as an art 😭

[@PastorScottIngram]

To say that art depicting the incarnation of the Son of God is wrong is to misinterpret what the scripture teaches on the topic of images.

[@faithwithroshni4858]

Thank you 🙌🙏❤️✝️

[@PastorScottIngram]

I'm glad it was a blessing!

[@Samuelson8169]

One thing most people do not realize is that by having such pictures , those pictures will creep into our mind when we pray when we think about Jesus , when we declare His Name and when we do everything related Him . It is more than worshiping as it ties everything we do to those pictures ( different ones ) which in reality is not the true image of Lord Jesus . It is no wonder Jesus said that many teach , preach and make miracles in His Name but He does not them because they worship the name of " other Jesus " as mentioned by Paul . Bible never described Jesus physically because Holy Spirit knows the tendency of human hearts to make an image of Jesus which is forbidden (like what the Israelis did } If Jesus is pictured such as what we seen in many pictures or drawings , then who will want to respect and worship Him ? There are many other human man image which is much better , much handsome and much powerful and much more beautiful then Jesus pictures we know nowadays . Those picture downgrade our all powerful Savior and do not resemble Him as the One who has been given all the power in heaven and on the earth by God the Father . So it is not about just act of worship to the image but the impact of the image on our mind , feelings and faith which does matter . One question we need to answer ... What If when Jesus returns , He is different from those pictures that we have seen so far ? What is our reaction ?

[@PastorScottIngram]

It is a danger and sin to worship an image but the fact that fact that Jesus appeared in history as real man makes the portrayal of that fact in artwork a testimony to the reality of the incarnation. That doesn't mean we worship the image, but accept the reality that God did become a real man and walk among us.

[@Samuelson8169]

@@PastorScottIngram no one bows or conduct act of worship in front of Jesus pictures but the fact that those pictures enter our mind when we pray when we sing when we preach when we read the Bible which matters.. The picture of Jesus which in fact is not Him or his true image... This is why God does not allow to use any graven image of Him because no on e has seen Him and human mind is incapable of describing his appearance even they ever see Him. Jesus is the Son of God who is Spirit and has no any physical form the same as the Father. we are told to believe what he says and believe in His Name and believe God the Father who sent Him. That is why Jesus said happy are those who believe even through they did not see Him...

[@tomwilliams1849]

@@Samuelson8169 stop trying to twist the Word of God to how you see fit

[@Samuelson8169]

@@tomwilliams1849 Using an image which does not resemble Lord Jesus is the act of twisting the Word of God ...

[@tomwilliams1849]

@@Samuelson8169 no it's not. Jesus was flesh so you're allowed to depict

[@bonsummers2657]

Does an image of Jesus come to your mind when you think of Jesus?

[@PastorScottIngram]

As as I’ve grown in the Spirit, it has become more of a feeling of His presence rather than an image in my mind though I do recognize that He was a flesh and blood man here on earth.

[@ghernandez2263]

For most people it forms an image of a European w blue eyes 😂

[@french844]

Is it a sin to hang posters i mean I just like the show but I don't idolize it

[@PastorScottIngram]

Images aren’t sinful but to worship thru an image is sinful.

[@graciethankful4643]

Amen 🙏

[@PastorScottIngram]

To God be the glory

[@thusharasanjeewa5429]

Better we not keep any any statue .... Simple , shalom !

[@PastorScottIngram]

I don’t think works of art are sinful, but using a work of art as your object of worship certainly would be sinful because it would become an idol.

[@LegitimateW]

@@PastorScottIngram making false images of jesus is not good

[@kinghezekiah8853]

At the end of the day all images are just random men claiming they Jesus

[@PastorScottIngram]

All I can say is that God came in the flesh

[@dvanbeek3816]

Beaten work is used by hammering metal Graven images are made by carving images out from stone or wood Idols are not gods but are representations of gods or devil's If you make a GRAVEN image of some person and look at that image with adoration then you are in fact worshipping it.

[@PastorScottIngram]

An idol is defined by being an image or statue that is worshipped. If you take away the aspect of worship, you do not have an idol but a piece of artwork.

[@fpcoleman57]

@@PastorScottIngram Begs the questions: What are the differences between veneration, adoration and worshipping? Also can a picture or a statue be used as a memory aid or as something to focus the mind when praying or meditating? For example in Zen Buddhism the statue of the Buddha is used in that way and is definitely not worshipped. Unfortunately in Theravada Buddhism ( mainly practiced in South East Asia) that is not the case. The statues of the Buddha in those parts are definitely venerated if not worshipped. I know Catholics who use pictures and statues in that way too, (as a focus) though, of course, many of them do worship the actual object as icons as in Orthodox Churches. Great subject!

[@polyglotomathotheophilos1941]

I guess we are all idolaters if we have photos of our loved ones then.....

[@littlesparrow34]

We have to be careful with what we say here as we are in the end accountable to God hmmmnn. So many false prophets coming out now.

[@PastorScottIngram]

What do you mean?

[@permafrost7781]

Maybe they thought or knew those images were actually images of pantheistic or paganistic figures.

[@PastorScottIngram]

The heart of the one seeing the image and how they are perceiving it is definitely a concern in this topic.

[@permafrost7781]

@@PastorScottIngram Hello there, reading a book called She Smiled on Constantinople by Reynold Spector, looking like a great read so far on iconoclasm.

[@PastorScottIngram]

@@permafrost7781 i'll have to check that out

[@floydwills8641]

Even though you all have just read the actual Scriptures for some reason it is still over your head. The Scriptures clearly state to not make or create ANY IMAGES of the HIM, things in heaven, in the sea, or in the earth, and on the earth. Yet for some reason, you all abs the guy in the video still manages to add to HIS word and take away from HIS word. I find this amazing. We've someone who wants to do what they want to do, there is no stopping it.

[@PastorScottIngram]

I actually use the Word to show where images are created. The problem is when uses those images are there focus of worship and service. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. Exodus 20:4-6

[@jbuggsyraps32]

The question should be "is the image of a white Jesus incorrect?"

[@PastorScottIngram]

Actually, this had nothing to do with His skin color, but he fact that He came in the flesh and whether or not it is okay to have a picture of Him in that sense.

[@jbuggsyraps32]

Being that Jesus lived in a hot climate and was a Israelite it is much more likely He was darker skinned and not pale or white.

[@iCarryBoatsAndTheLogs]

Everyone knows that but have no interest in burning or changing that many photos

[@PastorScottIngram]

I would agree, but the main point is that He came in the flesh and that is the main point of what the pictures of Jesus are relaying to us.

[@jbuggsyraps32]

If the pictures are "only" relaying that He came in the flesh then you use dark skinned images. Yet rather having no images of Jesus is wiser. Some people do believe that's how He looked because that's all they've seen. Especially younger people and children. The picture is always being presented yet I don't hear any sermons from white preachers mentioning that is not how Jesus looked. Let's do away with these images of Jesus altogether.

[@philparsons571]

Amen 🙏✝️

[@PastorScottIngram]

thanks for commenting

[@umatiwari308]

Any church that says good works wipe off bad works and salvation can be lost And teaches if a sin is minor or major I think is unbiblical Jesus died fir unintentional sins we do because of our sin nature One has been saved never commits sin intentionally they they do sin because all are born with a sin nature Thus they enter in grace Churches with even one of the teaching is fine and on its way

[@PastorScottIngram]

There are a lot of churches teaching unbiblical things. It is wise to be aware.

[@emgodas]

If I make it alive until I go in my own house. I will never put an object that contains Christianity. Because it's a sin. I will pray to lord from outside my house in the nature.

[@PastorScottIngram]

Why just an object from Christianity?

[@emgodas]

@@PastorScottIngram because owning an image it's a sin?

[@PastorScottIngram]

Actually worshiping an image is the sin in the second commandment.

[@emgodas]

@@PastorScottIngram yes and the pictures we have in our house are images.

[@drewthompson5366]

Having images of the Lord is wrong because these ancient people were not worshiping these images or statues as their gods they worshiped these evil spirits who resembled these images they made and I’m sure that’s what the true God meant when he said “thou shall have no graven image of anything in the heavens and hells below and the waters below” He was talking about himself and not just worship of these items but merely having or creating them. It is an affront to the lord and it is clear in the text.

[@PastorScottIngram]

This video I believe shows some other clear texts as well. I understand your conviction and respect it though

[@abideinthevineministries]

This is wrong Bible says make no image so make none don’t listen to man listen to Gods word

[@PastorScottIngram]

And yet God”s Son came in the flesh

[@sgm4545]

It is a sin! God said yall did not see me so make no image of me at all! You guys are sinning

[@PastorScottIngram]

Do you deny that Jesus came in the flesh and was seen. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

[@sgm4545]

@@PastorScottIngram Exodus 20:4 and DET 4 verse 14 to 19. Unless you think that as a gentile you have no obligation to follow the commandments. To me Jesus is God so he gave out these commands to Israel so that they can be an example among all nations. If you love him, keep his commands! Tell me why, nobody that saw him made an image of Jesus. It’s only sinners, centuries after his death that makes image of Jesus who is in heaven. The only people who had the right to make imagery was the appointed people that were inspired by him while building his tabernacle. Christians need to put some respect on the Old Testament. When the devil was tempting Jesus. Jesus cited the OLD TESTAMENT. It is daily bread 🥖 because it’s the word of God. And as you quoted in John, the word became flesh! So y’all shall live by the word and obey his commands! No imagery. Let go of the temptation of needing to make an image of our Lord. If you need to be reminded of his Glory. Look at the creation! Everything was made by him and everything is beautiful! Take a walk out of town, go on vacation, take a day outside and see his glory. Be thankful for the life that you have. This is all of his Glory. Im reminded of his Glory by reading the bible on the daily!

[@lolhet667]

Yeah because who really knows his true identity

[@PastorScottIngram]

I disagree as I discussed in the video. It isn't about a picture perfect picture. It is about the fact that Jesus became a man. I hope you took time to watch.

[@marciathehooligan9967]

Thank you. Your video was very concise & insightful. But I DO hate the most famous depiction of Jesus Christ because HE WAS NOT a weak little greasy haired little whimp with RED hair and sunken cheeks

[@PastorScottIngram]

Some art is better than others. I’m glad this was a blessing for you.

[@nwmgnoe316]

The shroud is not Jesus , biblically proven .

[@PastorScottIngram]

I have heard that argument.

[@jacobmatthews1079]

Anything depicting christ including a picture is anti (insread of) christ, you ve never seen christ.

[@PastorScottIngram]

If you listened to the video, you know that the idea of depicting Jesus is to acknowledge that God has come in the flesh. According to scripture, those who deny that are the true antichrists. “Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” 1 John 4:2-3

[@jacobmatthews1079]

@@PastorScottIngram are you trying to trick me?😳

[@PastorScottIngram]

No. Just sharing truth.

[@jacobmatthews1079]

@@PastorScottIngram the picrure of jesus is the anti christ, christ is invisible he s the word of God and the real messiah was named yeshuah or joshuah in english and... if Christians would follow the commandments they would not have any image of anybody not even of jesus the 2nd commandment was given to protect those who believe from the image of the beast

[@jacobmatthews1079]

That jesus is the word of god can be best explained like this, i play trumpet when i do im in my trumpet and my trumpet is in me, in this case the word is in me and I'm in the word ( im in the trumpet and the trumpet is in me,coming from me)

[@Frojesus]

😏

[@PastorScottIngram]

okay. :)