Is it Easy to Make Weekly Income Through Options Trading? (the answer may surprise you)

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SMB Capital

SMB Capital

4 жыл бұрын

In this video we provide the details of a simple $SPX index weekly options strategy that can be put on each week throughout the year to help earn weekly income. Register for our free intensive trading webinar smbu.com/seth
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@ACR4008
@ACR4008 3 жыл бұрын
5:20 actually starts
@ianmenachery4951
@ianmenachery4951 2 жыл бұрын
Doing gods work
@thetrueyorker
@thetrueyorker 2 жыл бұрын
You saved people thousands of hours
@Henryincanada
@Henryincanada 2 жыл бұрын
I should’ve come straight to comments, I saw this until when I was 4:49
@ktolwal
@ktolwal 2 жыл бұрын
my man
@miscellaneous3372
@miscellaneous3372 Жыл бұрын
thank you
@trystwithlight
@trystwithlight 2 жыл бұрын
no sugar coating - no click baits. I love content like this! Keeping it realistic is a big positive as well.
@alexv4907
@alexv4907 3 жыл бұрын
The constant reminder that you need to be prepared to take losses and plan accordingly is why I keep coming back to this channel.
@smbcapital
@smbcapital 3 жыл бұрын
thx Alex! glad to have you back
@herrickinman9303
@herrickinman9303 2 жыл бұрын
If you need to be reminded that you need to be prepared to take losses, simply do a few of these trades.
@bennorde2002
@bennorde2002 2 ай бұрын
lmao@@herrickinman9303
@heartofthunder1440
@heartofthunder1440 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, some of this can be quite difficult to take in, you really have to pay attention to detail, be good in basic math, and have good multi-tasking skills. And for anyone who is just getting started on their own in stock trading shouldn’t be using this strategy. Just learn how to buy low and sell high on swing trading for a bit. Do your research, have a good spread of stocks, don’t just put your money in just 1 particular stock, have 5 to 8 stocks, put a few of them in low risk that you wouldn’t mind holding on to for long time, and practice on 1 or 2 stocks to research in and play with. Buy in low sell high, get out. Buy in low sell high, rinse repeat. You can make money, it will take a little time to build up a good amount of money, but over time, of sliding funds into your account, and mixture of learning on how to buy low sell high with 2 stocks you can graduate to doing this with 3 different stocks, 4 different stocks, and so on. But, this is what I’m doing for now, this strategy of trading options can be done on the think or swim platform for practice. The main thing I’m getting at is be cautious and thing logical.
@israelvalentin3031
@israelvalentin3031 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tips 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@dorenestewart5084
@dorenestewart5084 6 ай бұрын
I'm struggling in this market. Stocks that I have held for months and made profits from are not behaving the way I'm used to so I’m quite indecisive on how to tackle this market, any advice would be grateful.
@dorenestewart5084
@dorenestewart5084 6 ай бұрын
@@PhyllisPierce That sounds great and what signal do you invest with?
@dorenestewart5084
@dorenestewart5084 6 ай бұрын
@@PhyllisPierce That's awesome and please how do I connect with this broker lady?
@dorenestewart5084
@dorenestewart5084 6 ай бұрын
@@PhyllisPierce I'm currently on her webpage now, her reviews are very impressive and I left a message for her. thanks, a lot.
@9to5investorsclub-investin36
@9to5investorsclub-investin36 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree! Staying consistent and managing risk properly has been great for options income strategies!
@jonathanshields3461
@jonathanshields3461 4 жыл бұрын
Just getting into all this trading, investing. This video has been by far the most up front and honest training/teaching I've watched.
@obrienesm762
@obrienesm762 4 жыл бұрын
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@theowalcott8624
@theowalcott8624 4 жыл бұрын
love the lesson will be watching multiple times bless.
@gregorykadok3356
@gregorykadok3356 3 жыл бұрын
Love the backtesting results you give. Thanks
@tylerpemberton7980
@tylerpemberton7980 2 жыл бұрын
Being new to trading options I would love a step by step tutorial on how to place a broken wing butterfly and other option strategies. It’s difficult to tell where the calls/puts are in your video but I love the instruction. Seth is an excellent trainer and really breaks things down into an easy-to-understand explanation.
@desisher5292
@desisher5292 11 ай бұрын
If anyone is new to options, then they should NOT be trading butterflies. This is an advanced strategy and not suitable for newbies.
@bboichirok661
@bboichirok661 5 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@desisher5292facts 💯 %
@75pdubs
@75pdubs 3 жыл бұрын
At least this guy is honest and realistic about drawdowns.
@smbcapital
@smbcapital 2 жыл бұрын
even happens to the best traders at SMB
@simahui3383
@simahui3383 4 жыл бұрын
The workshop goes over Credit Spreads and Iron Condors.Its pretty clear and easy to understand. In short if you have a small account, don't waste the 2 hrs. 30 mins is spent hyping up their own legitimacy at the beginning, 30 min at the end offering their 6 -8k video course.
@hochminus-iy7ro
@hochminus-iy7ro 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@raytempus4212
@raytempus4212 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being honest and real. I’m getting back to trading after a long time away from it. I had a professional career trading equities and options. I plan to attend many of your classes to develop my options trading skills. I’m learning from your information already.
@jacobdavid
@jacobdavid 4 жыл бұрын
Honest and glaringly straight to the point. There is no magic ATM machine out there. And, you will face losses. You will need $62K in capital/margin to make $52K or 81% returns, with losses, based on where the option is headed. This BROKEN WING BUTTERFLY strategy on the SPX index is definitely for intermediate to expert traders. Thank you Seth Freudberg.
@vanessacosta_interiores
@vanessacosta_interiores 4 жыл бұрын
Why not do the same strategy at SPY? It would require 10X less capital.
@tylerrb1937
@tylerrb1937 4 жыл бұрын
what about a 17 year old trying to start
@Bravo21
@Bravo21 7 ай бұрын
@@tylerrb1937 Honestly age has nothing to do with it. If you can understand the nuance of the trades and do the math, you should be fine. One thing you must do though is keep wishes and ego out of your decision making process. This is not place for wishful thinking... you must be disciplined, follow the strategy to the letter, understand there will be losing weeks and budget for the weeks you will lose money. Because those weeks will come.
@stevevacca6392
@stevevacca6392 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the lesson. I’m just learning options now and not ready for this, but maybe in the future.
@ajnasu5099
@ajnasu5099 4 жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks, I've been looking for "options trading program" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Winoorfa Option Olegroson - (do a search on google ) ? Ive heard some incredible things about it and my work buddy got cool results with it.
@randallewebb
@randallewebb 4 жыл бұрын
Start small and slow. Butterfly's are more complex. Start with Vertical Spreads, Iron Condors, and an occasional Naked Put/Call on VERY low priced underlying ($20 or less). Start there and then move onto Strangles, Straddles, Iron Flys, Diagonals. Finally, Butterflys and other things. Also there are futures as well.
@Bravo21
@Bravo21 7 ай бұрын
Same. Not ready to try this yet and I have an honor's degree in Economics and Accounting with a minor in applied math. Yet, is the key term here. We will get there.
@frankb1928
@frankb1928 4 жыл бұрын
I just do call options on good stock. Every now and then put spreads.Options can get addicting be careful.
@pavelcurda
@pavelcurda 3 жыл бұрын
Some examples of current put spreads?
@willmurrin9344
@willmurrin9344 3 жыл бұрын
Pavel Curda I’m putting in a put on WingStop tomorrow.
@figh761
@figh761 3 жыл бұрын
Any plan to make a million in 5 years
@JTG313
@JTG313 3 жыл бұрын
True very addicting
@pavelcurda
@pavelcurda 3 жыл бұрын
@@willmurrin9344 details?
@greggdonovan3812
@greggdonovan3812 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome educational video. Greatly appreciate what you provide. Thank you and look forward to more of your videos.
@kleenup2
@kleenup2 4 жыл бұрын
I always cut the trade if it loses as much as I'm looking to gain. Keeping a 1:1 risk reward ratio on known max gain trades is paramount for me. I like your teaching and presentation style.
@caw5v
@caw5v 4 жыл бұрын
It would have to be 1:1 or at least something approximating that ratio, because if you took a loss of $2000, as was stated during the broken butterfly strategy, for approximately 20% of the time, within a year, you effectively make nothing. Am I missing something or does this make since? I'm new to this btw, just trying to understand.
@brandonvillatuya9539
@brandonvillatuya9539 4 жыл бұрын
@@caw5v yeah ideally you'd want to get out long before you reach a max loss scenario. As long as you lose less than you make you'll be good
@georgio318
@georgio318 4 жыл бұрын
You will still be in profit. Out of 10 trades you lose 2 x $2000 (20 percent) = - $4000.00. You win 8 x $1000 (80 percent) = + $8000.00. The difference is $4000.00.
@lrbjr123
@lrbjr123 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgio318 The problem is when the market gaps down below bottom strike and you lose $15,000. It's hard to set a limit loss in the market.
@serleon6165
@serleon6165 3 жыл бұрын
@@lrbjr123 can't happen on a spread. Also closing your winners at a set % keeps em from coming back on you and being losers.
@wboquist
@wboquist 4 жыл бұрын
This guy's presentations seem remarkably free of b.s.
@Trainwhrek
@Trainwhrek 4 жыл бұрын
The first 5 minutes are essentially and ad with good graphics?
@uzbekcooks7814
@uzbekcooks7814 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Seth Freudberg! A retail investor with a small account (under 5K) would rather do a different technique. A "naked" PUT option for example for this week of March 1 thru 5 2021 on WKHS and RKT. An investment of 14K will bring an awesome return. Thank you for not telling me that is a very dangerous game (naked options). I've learned it hard way.
@gregdolley9189
@gregdolley9189 4 жыл бұрын
@SMB Capital - Seth - there's a better way to close a winning BWB trade, in my opinion. Let's say you do the strategy you explained in the video as a 1-lot, so your profit is $100/lot, and your losers are $200/lot. Instead of simply closing the winning trade when it reaches $100 of profit, do this: buy the debit spread which would convert the BWB into a regular butterfly _when_ that debit spread reaches a cost of 10 cents. So you're spending $10 bucks of your $100 profit to buy this spread, but you save 50% in commissions (since you're just buying/selling 2 contracts instead of 4 with the whole butterfly), _and_ you're left with a regular butterfly that now has a "max-loss" of a $90/lot _profit_ and a "lotto-ticket" max-profit the same as the original BWB minus 10 bucks. So by giving up 10 bucks/lot of the original BWB's normal profit, you get to keep your lotto ticket in case the market sells off by a lot and expires at the BWB's top profit point _and_ you're still guaranteed to make $90/lot in _any_ other scenario, no matter what! Here's a REAL-WORLD EXAMPLE of exactly what I'm describing above in a live-trade that I have on right now: On 12/26/2019, I bought the SPX 3115/3110/3075 PUT butterfly expiring on 1/10/2020 for a -1.00 debit (so really a $1 credit). Afterwards, I put an order out to buy the 3105/3075 PUT debit spread for a 0.10 debit (which is OCO'd to my stop-loss order). The market for this debit spread is currently 0.15, so I hope to get filled sometime tomorrow, as the market is strong, and there's only four days left to go on the butterfly - the theta decay alone should bring the debit spread to 0.10. What I'll be left with is a normal 3115/3110/3105 butterfly with a built-in _guaranteed_ $90/lot profit and a max-profit of $590/lot. I just love looking at the risk-graph of these "locked-profit" spreads, as there are no negative values! And there's still 4 days left to go until expiration! You can do a similar thing with a lot of complex-option trades, but the BWB is probably the best to do them on since it doesn't take away much of your original profit-target. Of course, now that I'm writing what I hope to happen, the option gods are going to strike me down, and the market will crash tomorrow, lol!
@gregdolley9189
@gregdolley9189 4 жыл бұрын
@Galileo7of9 - You basically have the idea right. But remember, you buy the $10 debit spread _after_ the butterfly is nearly worthless, so you already have almost a $100 to $110 floating profit on the broken wing butterfly. By spending $10 bucks on the "conversion" debit spread, it's like you're taking $10 out of your floating profit, and spending it in advance. Once the trade executes, you will see on your risk profile graph that you have no negative "max loss" anymore - in TOS, the light cyan line is all above zero at _any_ price, 0 to infinity. Sure, you're spending $10 bucks on something that has _almost_ no chance of happening - 2% in your scenario; but 2% isn't nothing... you could close your entire broken wing butterfly and keep that extra $10 bucks and pay double in commissions, but then you'd have a 0% chance of getting an extra $2890 bucks. You're right, on paper, it seems like a lottery ticket doing it my way, but it _has_ happened to me one time where I spent $20 bucks to close this _exact_ same type of BWB (broken wing butterfly) trade on NFLX (I had two lots), and it expired within 1 cent of my short PUT body strike! I spent $20 bucks, and made an extra $6000 dollars! So there you have it! I would've so kicked myself if I had just closed the whole BWB trade at the ~$240 floating profit I had at the time (on the Thursday before expiration). So, yeah, 2%... :D If I had always closed the entire BWB trade in one swoop (no extra debit spread), I would have to do this same trade 300 times before the extra $20 dollars in savings added up to the $6,000 I made on that one day.
@gregdolley9189
@gregdolley9189 4 жыл бұрын
@Galileo7of9 - yes, something is wrong then. I'll run a sim of your trade in TOS and see what's going on...
@gregdolley9189
@gregdolley9189 4 жыл бұрын
@Galileo7of9 ok, so the problem was you did the -3170/+3165 spread, but it should be the -3155/+3165 PUT debit spread for 0.10 debit. This shows a max loss of +$100. I was the in the SPX 24 JAN +3175/-3170/-3170/+3140 bwb until today, which I originally got for a 1.05 credit (shows as -1.05 debit in TOS) on 1/13. Today, my GTC order for the -3175/+3200 debit spread got executed for 0.10. Now that makes my position the +3140/-3170/-3170/+3200 PUT fly. TOS now shows this position with the cyan line at +$1016 at the base (max loss) and somewhere around +$6500 max profit (my position size was 2 lots). It's showing about $850 more on the "max loss" than it should because it's no longer considering the amount I paid for the 3175 PUT originally (which was $4.28 x 2 lots = about $850). Now is it more clear?
@gregdolley9189
@gregdolley9189 4 жыл бұрын
@Galileo7of9 - another way to look at this is: I have the 3200/3170/3140 PUT butterfly as my final position today. What were my net debit/credits used to get here? I'll read you my trade history: on 1/13, got in a 1.05 credit, and on 1/21 (today) got debited 0.10. So what's my net? A credit of 0.95. Now go into TOS and enter an order for buying the 3200/3170/3140 fly for a 0.95 credit. Hit analyze. Now do you see no negative values? Max loss of +$190, right? Of course, nobody would sell you this fly for a 0.95 credit because it guarantees them a loss (and guarantees you a profit), right? Also, no brainer, they wouldn't. So the only way to get a fly like this for a 0.95 credit, is to break up the trade, take that "time risk", and then later do the conversion trade. That "time risk" you took translates to your now guaranteed small profit, or huge profit (if the market crashes before Friday). And that "time risk" is potentially huge, remember - max loss on my original BWB was somewhere around $2300/lot and about $900/lot on your BWB (your lowest strike is much further inward, so you have less risk).
@gregdolley9189
@gregdolley9189 4 жыл бұрын
@Galileo7of9 - Yes, exactly!!
@j.d.7324
@j.d.7324 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great content!
@sarkarmom
@sarkarmom 3 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your videos. Very simple and informative for amateurs. Thanks for your efforts.. I have just started trading/ investing .. got some good profit. Looking for options trading now. Planning to take your workshop some time soon ☺️.
@tlhamby1
@tlhamby1 4 жыл бұрын
Put this trade on 12/4. Up $800 in 2 days. Thanks Seth for all you guys do for retail traders!
@teeno684
@teeno684 4 жыл бұрын
Tony Hamby how much did u invest?
@gregdolley9189
@gregdolley9189 4 жыл бұрын
@Galileo7of9 Why do you say this is "meaningless"??
@putt7515
@putt7515 2 жыл бұрын
Update?
@chazIII7III
@chazIII7III Жыл бұрын
I appreciate the honesty about having the possibility of spiraling losses.
@michaelwarren9944
@michaelwarren9944 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this information. I like someone to shoot straight and no bull. I subscribed.
@smbcapital
@smbcapital 4 жыл бұрын
Thx Micheal! Glad to have you as a subscriber
@TraderXFiddler
@TraderXFiddler 4 жыл бұрын
No bull... lol
@Frankincensedjb123
@Frankincensedjb123 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares if it's $150 / month for a $5,000 account. Fuxk that
@pattyaap7345
@pattyaap7345 4 жыл бұрын
You guys are such an inspiration and an authority on options trading. Glad to see your channel exploding! Here are some questions for upcoming videos: 1) When to do Deep OTM options 2) When to do Deep ITM options? 3) This strategy is for a bull market, can you also give an example of a bear market? Do you use the call side or do you do debit spreads? Lots of questions, I know but it would be nice to know as time decay is crucial in options trading.
@remohor
@remohor 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic overview! Thank you.
@craigcothren6629
@craigcothren6629 3 жыл бұрын
I have just started a Options class I paid $900 for. I thankyou for explaining with as little as $65,000 i can make $48k +/- a year. At present I make 16 % on $200,000 or $32,000. So your numbers are interesting to me.
@timookello3822
@timookello3822 4 жыл бұрын
Great content. If you could zoom in you screen when you display tables that would help people like myself with poor eyesight. Thanks
@smbcapital
@smbcapital 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for suggestion.
@rumbleofthunder
@rumbleofthunder 3 жыл бұрын
Try zoom under accessibility if using ios, or mag tool if windows 10
@bjj6708
@bjj6708 3 жыл бұрын
Hit the Windows key Then the plus key, but, definition not great, for him to give a closer zoom would improve.
@daveexplorer6759
@daveexplorer6759 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you! Question 1: why the 10 Delta strike...why not, say 15 Delta for the short strike? Qustion 2: Is there a weekly butterfly strategy with a very minimal capital requirement and high profil/loss ratio?
@gregoryjules2005
@gregoryjules2005 4 жыл бұрын
Where do I apply? I just got my options certifications!
@suresh-on7xx
@suresh-on7xx 3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate great video on weekly stratagy. Thanks
@cdaddy20
@cdaddy20 4 жыл бұрын
"We'll all be billionaires if our Back Tests worked in the future." Quote from staff of CBOE.
@kennykenaz8340
@kennykenaz8340 4 жыл бұрын
This was great, thanks, I've been looking for "examples of options strategies" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Winoorfa Option Olegroson - (search on google ) ? Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my co-worker got great results with it.
@giovannipoorsaid1744
@giovannipoorsaid1744 4 жыл бұрын
Of course you can make a weekly income lmao look at tsla and appl not to mention the downfall of roku and fedex with the upside/downside of ba hell yea brother im 19 and trading is my income... im also a full time college student, i wish i was into forex also but thats a little more difficult in my opinion
@randallblake1213
@randallblake1213 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. They are back testing, not trading. NEVER pay attention to someone who “proves” his strategy with back testing. Don’t walk away - run!
@beamerUSA
@beamerUSA 4 жыл бұрын
cdaddy20 people who don't have the knack in this field should stay away from this kind of biz. Stick to Rap
@beamerUSA
@beamerUSA 4 жыл бұрын
@@randallblake1213 pls check meaning of ur name in Indian language....RAND
@korenhaim
@korenhaim 3 жыл бұрын
You are really professional Mr. Freudberg!
@smbcapital
@smbcapital 3 жыл бұрын
thx Haim!
@teresab208
@teresab208 Жыл бұрын
I learned how to do covered calls and loving it
@austinmiller6837
@austinmiller6837 4 жыл бұрын
Would it be a good idea to do this on the call side also like an iron condor so you could make more money on the same capital or am I missing somthing?
@joehill5293
@joehill5293 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m still new to options. My question to you is when looking at volume and open interest, are high open interest options the good choices to pick. Thanks 🙏
@andrewugale2476
@andrewugale2476 4 жыл бұрын
Or the difference the bid and ask
@75pdubs
@75pdubs 3 жыл бұрын
Overall open interest in the stocks options are more important. You can trade a strike with low open interest if other strikes have decent open interest. The higher liquidity of a stocks options will be reflected in a tighter bid/ask.
@phlliphramsammy1035
@phlliphramsammy1035 4 жыл бұрын
Great strategy!
@marckenyon9953
@marckenyon9953 Жыл бұрын
Good presentation but it could be improved greatly by illustrating the broken wing option trade on an actual chart and explain briefly what happens as the price of the underlying instrument goes up or down.
@Patriot400
@Patriot400 3 жыл бұрын
Why example of Put Options only? Does it work for Call options? How to choose Call or Put?
@leonardocubillos3205
@leonardocubillos3205 4 жыл бұрын
thank you!!! great video
@smbcapital
@smbcapital 4 жыл бұрын
Thx Leonardo!
@rqztaz
@rqztaz 3 жыл бұрын
Are these workshops still running in september 2020?
@davidfordonez
@davidfordonez 4 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend to do stop losses for intraday weekly option trading?
@HAJensen19987
@HAJensen19987 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent - thank you!
@carinemarcelle5867
@carinemarcelle5867 3 жыл бұрын
Good explanation Thank you Which brokers allow those transactions on the indexes? ($100/point)? My broker want me to have the buying power before I place the trade.
@coolthingsintemu
@coolthingsintemu 4 жыл бұрын
It's one of my favourite strategies for income generating. One caveat though - it does require a sizable capital Thx...
@commonman44
@commonman44 4 жыл бұрын
Is it easy to implement??
@insurancecasino5790
@insurancecasino5790 4 жыл бұрын
Unlike many new trading sites that offer options education, this channel is the real deal. Seth is a real options trader. Great information.
@jandolin
@jandolin 4 жыл бұрын
How much capital is required for this trade?
@insurancecasino5790
@insurancecasino5790 4 жыл бұрын
@@jandolin he tells you in the video click here ➡ 10:44
@jandolin
@jandolin 4 жыл бұрын
@@insurancecasino5790 Thank you.
@Lyotac
@Lyotac 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a benefit to using a broken wing butterfly over a regular credit put spread? Would using put spreads with the same 10 delta, 1000$ target profit, 2000$ stop loss give the same results?
@WildWestPros
@WildWestPros 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! Thanks
@nelsonpoolsparepair
@nelsonpoolsparepair 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great and informative video. Is the $1000 profit after any trading fees?
@billstenner3026
@billstenner3026 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoying the videos... as with anything it’s like déjà Vous .. don’t want to create any unweildy 🐙 octopus let alone a giant vampire squid 🦑 that could take down a 🐋 I really liked the first vid I saw about Eminis and locking in delta and thought right away i will have to look at how I can apply that to stock gains.. truly enjoying your videos so far.. we’ll done ✅ Though creating a Vampire Squid to go whale hunting could be fun ;)
@Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire
@Sir_Pumpington_Of_Dumpenshire 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, ez, just ramp up the expectation to 4k a week so that the end of year average is more acceptable. I don't believe that there aren't folks out there pillaging the market for thousands of dollars every week. They are out there.
@hobonickel840
@hobonickel840 3 жыл бұрын
I only need a $500 week supplement ...however only been learning this stuff since a few months ago ...I needed a challenge and I can't climb Mt. Everest ..it's too far away!
@cindywatson5971
@cindywatson5971 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Seth This case study is based on the market rally and the index moved away from the strike price. But what if there is a market downturn, then how do you compute the loss? Thks
@arnoldvantaak5533
@arnoldvantaak5533 4 жыл бұрын
At 13:20 their is an invite to a webinar to learn 3 options strategies. In the said "webinar" this is how it goes: +- the first 30 minutes of the "webinar" is about how great SMB is. in +- the next 60 minutes the said three strategies presented. The webinar explains these strategies conceptually, no different than most basic options literature would explain it. (e.g. iron condors and put credit spreads.) +- the last 30min is used to sell you an options strategy course for $1997.00. The webinar only addresses three simple options strategies in a very basic way, adding no additional value over any decent options strategy handbook. The webinar invite (the video above) made no mention of the sales pitch at the end of the webinar. It does seem that the "webinar" served as bait; after wrestling through 90 minutes of mundane it seems reasonable to want to listen through to the end / complete the webinar, only to be subjected to a trading education sales pitch all to familiar in the retail trading space. Disappointed, disgusted.
@travis4118
@travis4118 4 жыл бұрын
This is how they make the money. Some are going to pay.
@BigMeech18
@BigMeech18 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Seth and SMB capital! I love the video and have been using this trade since Dec 2019(not enough buying power for a 10 x 20 x 10 lot) when I first saw the video. My question is do you ever let the butterfly expire? What I'm experiencing is I can't get filled on my exit or I have to work more towards the natural then the mid price. Thanks for your help!
@gracegan8875
@gracegan8875 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Seth! What sort of market conditions is this strategy best suited for? Any minimum IV requirement?
@yasirali709
@yasirali709 4 жыл бұрын
Great work
@herrickinman9303
@herrickinman9303 2 жыл бұрын
This trade consists of two vertical spreads. A) 10 put debit spreads: Buy 10 $SPX 3045 puts = $-7,700 Sell 10 $SPX 3040 puts = $+7,200 ======= $ -500 Max Loss = $500 @ $SPX >= 3045 Max Gain = $4,500 @ $SPX = 3040 Max Loss = $20,000 - $1,800 = $18,200 @ $SPX
@normanarmstrong9048
@normanarmstrong9048 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@mem4730
@mem4730 9 ай бұрын
Great work. With Opvue now closed, which software do you use to manage your positions.? Thanks. Mick.
@ransielgalme8097
@ransielgalme8097 4 жыл бұрын
Seth.....you are true inspiration.....i feel like a better trader just listening to your videos.....let me get this straight you made three directional trades down....the mkt went up and you still made money? .for me who knows nothing about options...difficult to comprehend....my question is -as a daytrader are there any simple option strategies that can use to play the open? thank you ...your work is outstanding......
@GardenBoat
@GardenBoat 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have to be approved for naked option sells?
@kklaw3700
@kklaw3700 Жыл бұрын
How about setting a similar BWB on the calls as well?
@leon21th64
@leon21th64 11 ай бұрын
Even the market go side way, you would have profited upon premium decay toward the expiry. The hardest is to pick a correct short point. When too close, the risk would be too high, when too far way, the profit would be too small.
@user-Tim66
@user-Tim66 2 жыл бұрын
What is the advantage to doing a broken wing butterfly over a simple put spread
@nunosousa3017
@nunosousa3017 4 жыл бұрын
Seth, thank you again for your contribution to the trading community, very informative. Really liked how you put all the risks on the table, indeed there is no magic in trading. Although, as newbie in options trading i would like to see an approach on the how to backtest strategies. Could you provide with some future videos or tools available in internet? Thank you in advance. Nuno
@nitinmirpuri3313
@nitinmirpuri3313 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to put up a video on how to determine / calculate return on investment selling naked options. (call / put) If possible could you use the SPX ? Thankyou. Looking forward to a response.
@Johndoe-gf7ks
@Johndoe-gf7ks 4 жыл бұрын
Selling naked the loss can be infinite
@aGr3atD4y
@aGr3atD4y 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@patrickgibson6284
@patrickgibson6284 15 күн бұрын
In looking to put on this trade I'm seeing the price difference on the put debit side of the trade is more than the difference on the put credit side. I'm not sure if that's just the market right now. Really want to try this but right now looks like it just locks in a loss. Or maybe I misunderstand it... I'll watch it again
@Andrew-cm5tc
@Andrew-cm5tc 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to put an order so that the trade will close automatically if price goes below 3045? Is that realistic as long as it doesn't gap down?
@OPPOSMITE
@OPPOSMITE 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to use options to make extra money on options of stocks I'm looking to own.
@argument1582
@argument1582 4 жыл бұрын
Yup
@stevenscott5814
@stevenscott5814 4 жыл бұрын
The webinar provides good instruction regarding selling puts, iron condors and bull put credit spreads, but nothing that is not taught in other KZbin videos. However, over half of the over two hour course is spent trying to hard sell their 15 session online video course and lifetime coaching costing $1997.
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 4 жыл бұрын
They may encourage purchasing their products but their advice is solid and relatively bias - free
@stevenscott5814
@stevenscott5814 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The instruction was very good.
@75pdubs
@75pdubs 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully people aren’t paying that much money. This is all very basic option strategies. Get a Natenberg from the library and teach yourself. I am not a fan of 1:1 risk reward ratios like in this example. I would look for strategies with a 3.5:1 risk reward or better. But these days options are priced correctly so you get what you pay for.
@chrisnorris173
@chrisnorris173 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there, just getting started, dont understand anything you are talking about. Kinda like my chemistry class and learning the periodic table...doesn't make sense at first until one day...it finally sinks! I'm just not there yet.
@Bassium08
@Bassium08 4 жыл бұрын
Just know, unlike chemistry, you can make direct profits from these lessons. Also unlike chemistry you can incur massive loss. In risk we trust.
@Omikoshi78
@Omikoshi78 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the same odds of success as repeatedly betting black on a roulette table with a exit point. (E.g. if I lose x dollars or win y dollars I’m out)
@kocornhole4613
@kocornhole4613 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid. At first I was a bit skeptical thinking it was the usual "make money in any market" straddle pitch. I was pleased to find candid, detailed info though. Was the reason you bought the put that gave $1000 credit simply for the value or are you looking for a delta range for the whole trade?
@halmedrano
@halmedrano 4 жыл бұрын
I'm having trouble figuring out what's the worst case scenario for this trade. Like if the market gaps down overnight, what is your maximum loss, using the same numbers you used in the video? Great vids, BTW - I'm learning a lot going though them.
@anbao8784
@anbao8784 3 жыл бұрын
So we you have anything like this for the current market?
@waynelast1685
@waynelast1685 2 жыл бұрын
Is it relatively manageable for one person to use $100k 0r $ 200k to trade to generate say $2000 or $3000 per week? In other words how easily does this method scale?
@jamaica209
@jamaica209 4 жыл бұрын
Can we do covered call options on index fund every month, irrespective of index price and just focus on getting premium on selling call option ?
@75pdubs
@75pdubs 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@gregfam6250
@gregfam6250 3 жыл бұрын
What is the rationale for not cutting losses earlier, say at -1.5k or even -1k?
@miautoman6086
@miautoman6086 3 жыл бұрын
Start at 11:57, watch it to 13:17 10 to 15 times, then start at the beginning.
@Expprods
@Expprods 4 жыл бұрын
Key is capital required however, you can start options trading with minimal capital also and move towards advanced strategies.
@edriley3240
@edriley3240 4 жыл бұрын
Good video Seth like the other video about the trader who came to you about vertical credit spread weekly puts seems easier. Could you do another video on that subject.
@tummuti
@tummuti 2 жыл бұрын
Good. Better one should also learn how to adjust the positions for better results.. 👍
@Oct-jy4dz
@Oct-jy4dz Жыл бұрын
What will be the expectation of the market trend for this strategy? should it be a bullish or bearish or side way? Can it be used at the call side and how? Thanks for your time.
@dr.n.senapati7865
@dr.n.senapati7865 4 жыл бұрын
Great analysis
@ericfine325
@ericfine325 2 жыл бұрын
Is thisstrategy still applicable in Feb/March 2022. It seems premiums 2 week out in the SPY has drastically reduced. Barely enough difference between (20 x Put at 0.1 delta) - (10 xPut $5 above) =$1000. And the bottom strike is so far out of the money or in this case doesn't exist that the margin required is quite large. Would one reduce the length of the top wing? Is it unadvisable to go out 4 weeks instead of 2?
@stang6882
@stang6882 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome lesson, thank you Seth!!
@smbcapital
@smbcapital 4 жыл бұрын
thx Stan!
@markfoo23
@markfoo23 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Seth, does the 2000 loss include the 1000 credit? Ie. When loss hits 3000? From the way the you said it, it seems like close the position when there is a 2000 loss but if you take in the 1000 credit, it means its only 1000 loss and not 2000. Please advise
@markfoo23
@markfoo23 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Seth any comments on this?
@Godchosen00
@Godchosen00 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting.
@JJason406
@JJason406 4 жыл бұрын
I use charles charwb and dont see this option chain
@amastal1
@amastal1 4 жыл бұрын
thanx sr thanx for info
@trexieville
@trexieville 4 жыл бұрын
What signal you need to trigger this trade? and do you need a bias for this trade or a neutral.
@markfoo23
@markfoo23 4 жыл бұрын
This should be a bullish to neutral strategy
@krissmek289
@krissmek289 3 жыл бұрын
There is a simple solution to this. If you do the tests and the math to figure out what your longest losing streaks look like just put that capital aside and probably a little more. For example if your strategy requires 500$ a trade and your biggest losing streak is three trades put 2k off to the side. You have room to lose 4 trades without eating into any recent profits and do the same for your wins. Call it 100$ a win this case put and additional 400$ off to the side. Sure it takes extra capital and your not making full use of it but the exchange is a very very high probability you have an extra 100$ every week forever.
@zoltano21
@zoltano21 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand why this strategy would be better with a broken wing butterfly than with a short put spread. You wouldn't need to buy the higher put and it would be enough to sell half the amount (10 instead of 20). Your potential profit to start with could be higher, in your example, instead of 1300$ it'd be 1800$ (as you'd save the 7700$ you pay for the buy) and even though your risk is higher, you'd get out anyway when things go south, you'd just need to get out a little bit higher. But instead of closing the trade at 1150$ profit (or 1000), you can close it when you are at 1400$-1500$ profit. Plus, you'd need to pay less commission as you only make 2 transactions instead of 3.
@LeeGreyMatter
@LeeGreyMatter Жыл бұрын
Why not place one BWB above the market as well as one below the market?
@hc76016
@hc76016 3 жыл бұрын
Are these strategies only apply to the spx index or can you use this in any stock?
@75pdubs
@75pdubs 3 жыл бұрын
Any stock. You may have early exercise and special dividends issues with single stocks though.
@KrishMod520
@KrishMod520 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s another strategy one can do on options expiration days on SPX. Just look for the intraday top or bottom and place a vertical spread. Hold it thru expiry for max profit. You can pay yourself 3 times a week quite easily
@meelyang
@meelyang 4 жыл бұрын
Y
@dek2000utube
@dek2000utube 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Is there a powerful weekly income strategy you could recommend thats tradeable in a retirement account?
@ToddMorgan_1
@ToddMorgan_1 4 жыл бұрын
David, unless it's a ROTH you're gonna want to be sure you understand all the ramifications of Margin Accounts very well or have a broker that will hold your hand until you do. It can get tricky if, for example, you happen to get assigned on one leg of something. Normally, as in a Reg-T Margin Account, one can use margin money to sell an option against the assignment...or whatever. Point is, no normal Margin Account treatment is available to IRA's. This impediment will greatly affect one's ROI, or Return on Margin. As in no ability to derive the ~80% Return on Margin in the example above. If one were able to do such a trade in an IRA, the Return on Margin would be much, much lower. Alternatively, one could throw something small ($5k - $10k) in a taxable acct and start small while learning using margin all the way. Life's a long learning process, and with KZbin one could gain virtually unlimited knowledge on almost any subject with sufficient effort. Pro Tip: Trade options on Index's, Futures, and ETF's (SPY, QQQ), and other Options taxed under IRC Sub-section 1256, and benefit from "mixed-blended" Taxation. That is 60/40, 60% Long-term cap gains/40% Short-term. Max marginal tax rate is ~23% at >$418,000 of income, and could be as low as 4.8% in the 10% and 12% brackets. Use it profit ! :-))
@toolegittoquit_001
@toolegittoquit_001 4 жыл бұрын
@Judy C You can do level 3 level strategies which include calendars, spreads, condors, etc. You can't do naked options; must be cash-secured
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