Is it Obsolete - The Core Duo MacBook?

[@obsoletegeek]

It's hard to believe these are 10 years old already. I couldn't believe Apple switched to the Intel processors they bashed for so many years, but the consumer PPC roadmap was practically dead. I remember drooling over the new Powermac G5s, and people are pulling those out of dumpsters these days!

[@TheLexiconDevils]

I pulled out a g4 iBook,iMac from the side of the road

[@Connie_TinuityError]

Actually, they're now bashing Intel processors again after all this time.

[@homejuju7293]

@@Connie_TinuityError best decision ever.

[@falc0n2222]

Guess what, it's been 17 years since this thing came out

[@daytimedorks]

its now been 17 years lol. how time flies!

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

Shove an SSD into one of these things, and they still have some pretty decent potential! Especially with the later core 2 Duo models.

[@jason_a_smith_gb]

Could you not stick DOS on one of these or XP and run some old games? We need to know! Processor might upgrade to a Core2Duo from ebay. (Less tiring episode than driving round Dallas. And is the claw with no cog obsolete?)

[@Cyber_Horse_Studios87]

@@jason_a_smith_gb technically you can install XP so long as the unit has an internal working SuperDrive installed. Dos though, I’m not sure cause of drivers... also you can’t upgrade the CPU. The chips are saudered to the board.

[@cubedmelons876]

Cutoff for XP support is probably any mac released up to 2011. Up to that point the XP drivers are on the Snow Leopard install DVD, but Bootcamp in Lion doesn’t officially support XP. I’m pretty sure the drivers are somewhere on the internet if you don’t have the DVD.

[@reisenImperishableNight]

@@jason_a_smith_gb you CAN upgrade it if you replace the logic board with a newer core2duo one

[@honkhonkler7732]

It's living on barrowed time. 32 bit software support, even on Linux, is dwindling fast.

[@Poire33]

For 2019 and beyond, I would recommend that if you want to buy one of the plastic Macbooks, that you choose a 2009, whether it be an early or late model. Both can be made to run macOS Mojave if you use Dosdude1's macOS Mojave Patcher. If you just want a cheap Mac laptop to run Linux on, I'd go with a 2007 Macbook. The price is nearly the same as the original Macbook, but since the 2007 has a Core 2 Duo CPU, it can run a lot more Linux distros than the Core Duo Macbooks. However, if you already have a Core Duo Macbook lying around, go ahead and put Linux on it. Windows 7 is going to be discontinued on January 14th, 2020 (sad), and since Snow Leopard is getting outdated as David showed in his video, Linux is the best option for Core Duo Macbooks, and for any Core Duo Mac really.

[@LegoWormNoah101]

I always provide this piece of advice to those who dare not switch to 10: the best anti-virus is your own brain.

[@moritzzwirchm2910]

as soon as i read "cheap macbook for linux" i stopped reading, but i am gonna go ahead and say: "cool story, bro!"

[@AbdAbdAbdAbd]

these laptops would be great for windows 10 enterprise LTSC since it's so lightweight compared to windows 10 home or pro

[@RichLux713]

i wached this video like 5 times

[@lolxdfi]

me - twice(only)

[@AbdAbdAbdAbd]

I wached 50 Times

[@lolxdfi]

+Abody Abdalluh good for you xd

[@hidde1626]

I have that by almost every single video from the 8 Bit Guy

[@hidde1626]

I have that by almost every single video from the 8 Bit Guy

[@Vivacior]

Watching this in 2019... There is no doubt....not obsolete...👍

[@felopaterhanna7150]

Jerry Palmroos 2020 where gonna find out

[@DreamerVic]

Jerry Palmroos and it’s unbelievable how well windows run on Apple machines. Seems like brothers separated at birth

[@tj71520]

Just got an early 2006 iMac today

[@felopaterhanna7150]

Thomas Jensen if it works I want u to help me with mine’s thanks

[@tj71520]

@@felopaterhanna7150 it does work. But I am still not that familiar with Macs yet

[@kidsIIIII009]

David Murray: It was made in 2006 so it is basically 10 years old. Me: But it’s November 2015, so this laptop is 9 years old.

[@rxgtv]

that's why it's 10. Round it up

[@alephcake]

It is well over 10 years old at this point, so I guess there's no dispute on that

[@Anoalekontrieger]

Pushing 20 years old lol

[@MGR99]

Great video, David. I may hate apple, but I can appreciate the things its made mainstream.... and some things not so much. But, what I can fully appreciate is someone who is a true and utter geek. I love these videos where you go into detail about these macs, I just love that sort of thing. Keep up the good work!

[@EliFleming]

I don't hate apple, lol, but I also fully appreciate the geeking out. David's enthusiasm shines through and these videos are great!

[@MGR99]

Anton EightBall​ Did you even read my comment? I bet you can't bare the fact that someone dislikes your favourite company, so you automatically reply to their comment and call them names, or that's as I see you being like.

[@superninja6630]

i like apple, but i hate the way they make stupid decicions

[@chrogram7180]

+SuperNinja66 Well said my friend.

[@averygoodrich2927]

+SuperNinja66 wise words my friend

[@StanceSantos]

194 people disliked this because he doesn't know how to play Minecraft

[@joemAwesomeMan]

*kids

[@jammythebaby3693]

joe m kids are people

[@Neavved]

@@joemAwesomeMan adults also play minecraft Example: pewdiepie

[@augologo]

exactly

[@hutchspeaker8820]

Well duuu

[@chickentys]

I really like this era of The 8 bit Guy, big thumbs up!!!

[@TheDragonballboy]

Does this mac overheat when watching KZbin?

[@The8BitGuy]

+SoldierSparky - When I had it in 1080p mode, the fan did come on loudly.. I don't think it would over-heat, but it was annoying.

[@CommodoreFan64]

+The 8-Bit Guy I personally would have bumped it down to 720p just be on safe side, and on a screen of that resolution you can't really tell a lot of difference at least I can't.

[@The8BitGuy]

+Commodorefan64 I agree - in fact I only produce my videos in 720p. I don't think there is enough difference to bother with 1080. But the idea was to test the limits.

[@CommodoreFan64]

The 8-Bit Guy I hear ya.

[@TheDragonballboy]

+The 8-Bit Guy strange my late 2007 MacBook overheats because of 480p and 720p

[@compactc9]

When I was looking for my first MacBook, I was looking at some used Core 2 Duo black MacBooks, I almost got one for $750, but I found a brand new at the time early 2009 on sale for $850. I went for the new one because of the Nvidia chipset, and I'm glad I did, these actually do, despite many that disagree, does take 8GB of RAM.

[@izumi937]

Love these "Is it Obsolete" videos!

[@Chris-yj2di]

I never understood how anyone can hate a computer. I own both a Macbook Pro and a gaming PC I've built and it's the best of both worlds.

[@jeznav]

+Topher Glenn Same here. I think most people hate due to the fact they have defend their purchases/investments from getting trounced by other peoples perception of 'mine's better than yours'. As a gadget geek myself, sure I may have bought stupid and useless products, (Ouya, Blackberry Playbook), but I never once made fun of someone using a Playbook tablet in public by because my experience for using one sucked. I'm more curious on how it works for them. But yeah my MacbookPro = office, work; PC = gaming, coding; Windows10, OSX El Capitan, Ubuntu; Me = :D

[@Chris-yj2di]

Makes sense.

[@RWoody1995]

+Topher Glenn the hate comes from people not liking the way the company that makes the system runs, apple likes to make their stuff very locked down, you can't do anything that's not approved by apple, although we all know the reason they do this is so they can make sure everything is of a good quality and secure but the freedom and infinite amount of programs and possibilities available on a windows pc and linux pc is much more appealing to a lot of people also theres the cost thing, if you wanted the apple hardware just to run windows you can but then you end up spending twice as much on the hardware just to run the same software that hardware half the cost will run and can still have the same build quality.

[@IsettasRock]

+megaspeed2v2 Exactly! Plus, when I own a piece of computer hardware I expect it to be open and configurable to do what I'd like it to do, not what some company thinks I want (or thinks I shouldn't be able to do). The last Apple product I bought was a Apple 2+ back in 1981....I'll never again buy anything from Apple.

[@Chris-yj2di]

IsettasRock Okay, but does that warrant some kind of adolescent hate from you? I don't think so, and It shouldn't, just don't buy it. I personally like being able to plug a midi instrument into my Mac and not having to worry about sound cards or drivers...I don't hate my PC because of it. It's like having two different tools in a toolbox. My original post was aimed at people who froth at the mouth and get angry in regards to one setup or another, which is childish.

[@MattimusHD]

Woohoo, an "Is It Obsolete?" Apple product video!! Haha Dave I found your channel from the "Is It Obsolete? iBook G3" video!

[@therealtechie7852]

+Matt K. I found his channel from the iBook G3 video

[@w140chris]

Me too

[@okhan5087]

+Matt K. me too

[@stephenmystery8313]

+Matt K. I found him as AwesomeAirGuns

[@josemedeiros007]

Great job on the review and upgrade guide!

[@totallynotaseaotter4946]

I like these kinds of videos. You should do more of them. Be interesting how laptops from 2004 handle todays computing.

[@TheGeekPub]

I'm sure they "work" just fine compatibility wise. You failed to mention how unbearably slow it is. I suspect just a simple operation of copying a Powerpoint file from the network would be excruciatingly slow.

[@The8BitGuy]

+TheGeekPub Actually, for most of the stuff I was doing, it ran plenty fast.

[@wheelerboy13]

+TheGeekPub Brotherly love guys

[@Merthalophor]

+The 8-Bit Guy It would be very interesting to see what programms you tested and how. Mulititasking in particiular is very interesting. Chrome with many tabs? Word, Excel, Chrome opened at the same time? Compilation time? Does it freez from time to time or can you expect to smoothly open/close office apps many times? Might as well just buy one and test it myself, they're so damn cheap

[@TheGeekPub]

+Rhyd wheels Exactly!

[@TheGeekPub]

+The 8-Bit Guy Please run geekbench on it and give me the results.

[@janquieldapper]

Windows 10 works fine... great! Many old MacBooks have a chance to continuous working in basic tasks with windows. Good Job 8BitGuy!

[@sebaschan-uwu]

My 8 year old mac book air runs much better on windows

[@markusTegelane]

Unfortunately Windows 11 doesn't support 32-bit processors anymore, meaning you'll have to settle for Windows 10, which will stop receiving updates in 2025.

[@PocketUau]

Watching it on my recently acquired 2009 13 inch Pro running Linux Mint 18 and I can certainly say that it's a million times snappier than my Win7 2013 Dell Latitude with its i5. I use the lowest spec model of the MBP but I upgraded to a 515GB SSD, cleaned out the insides till it looked new (changed thermal paste too cause it became dust) and went from 2 to 8GB RAM. It's speed, efficiency and battery easily matches any 2017 i3 laptop by Acer or other brands. Absolutely not obsolete, and at least I can still use my SD cards and wired mice while charging and connected to a monitor... without a dongle :D. So happy because my Uncle gave it to me corrupt thinking it was broken and little did he know, I brought it back to life and it's freshhh.

[@ThePenoid]

This is what Austin Evans will look like in 30 years

[@Maxxeine]

AKA duncan33303 for those that remember his old username, lol.

[@pazi88]

Hi!I have a MacBook pro 17" from 2006 with Radeon x1600 GPU. I'm trying to use windows 10 but problem is that I can't find any drivers for that x1600 graphics chip. Not for vista or XP either. There is plenty of x1600 drivers out there, but it seems that apple has their own special version of that chip and those drivers won't work on the MacBook. Any idea where I could get the drivers for the x1600 GPU on MacBook?

[@catsdgs]

I hate windows 8 too. It's meant for tablets. Not computers.

[@MyNameIsBucket]

It sucks for tablets too. It tried to be 2 things at once and failed at both - like Windows ME.

[@CanuckGod]

Yeah, it was pretty craptastic; like Windows ME, it was sandwiched between two good versions (98 and XP then, 7 and 10 now), and even though they fixed it a little with 8.1, it was still crap. Moved to Windows 10 as soon as it was released and haven't looked back.

[@Storm_.]

You can install a classic start menu on Win 8, effectively giving you Win 10 without all the new microsoft spyware and advertising.

[@Scitch87]

I really like Windows 8 (well 8.1). Just install classic shell and it's an amazing system. Even more so on older systems since its hardware requirements are way lower than windows 10 and you don't run the risk of ruining the whole system with the next update.... Also for whatever reason the runtime on battery is way better on windows 8 than on windows 10 (on older machines).

[@WAncouvOR]

I prefer windows 10, but for some reason all my laptops, even my desktop (all hdds) had the HDD at 100%. So I chose to install Windows 8.1 no 100% HDD over there. So I'll say windows 10 really good for ssds. I have windows 8.1 with classic shell, hell I have windows 10 installed as a secondary to keep up with the look, I always use classic shell. XD I'm more of a metro, but windows 7 style. If windows 7 had metro. That'd be awesome.

[@grant.fitzsimmons]

Do a Dell laptop from 2007.

[@dinmamma7810]

i agree

[@Edmundostudios]

+Grant Fitzsimmons careful it might explode

[@brenpersing]

+Edmundo studios Shut up

[@Edmundostudios]

Brennan Persing Did I touch a nerve lol?

[@brenpersing]

Edmundo studios Dells are better.

[@vama89]

Sweet video series. Looking forward to watching the rest of the channel!

[@hightech4620]

You can make an video about the Core 2 Duo MacBook if is obsolete

[@glujaz]

Watching this on my mid 2008 Macbook with Mojave ! 😉 (And waiting a bit before installing Catalina)

[@АлексейГриднев-и7р]

Well, since it's 64 bit, it's never going to be obsolete achitecture-wise. It's just going to be less and less usable because the Web and the software are becoming more and more bloated every passing day.

[@florin.afilipoaei]

@@АлексейГриднев-и7р Correct!

[@LegoWormNoah101]

Watching on 2011 MacBook Pro running 10.8.5

[@rarespetrusamartean5433]

I mean, if this simple core duo isn't, the better version of it probably isn't either

[@ashtonleo1418]

Don't be fooled guys! This Macbook might handle basic tasks just fine but it'll choke the moment you try to do something intensive

[@RodrigoVazquez91]

One of these actually saved me in a video editing freelance project I had, I couldn't use my MacBook Pro 'cause I wasn't at home. And let me tell you something, even when it wasn't that fast, It helped me to get my project done. iMovie 11 and that Early '08 black macbook saved my life.

[@geoman1420]

Ubuntu is heavy, you should install something like Linux Mint Mate or MX Linux.

[@aretard7995]

lubuntu.

[@cucho69]

Installing GNU/Linux is not easy in MacTrash

[@staninjapan07]

@@cucho69 What about now in 2020? Is there help and are there easier methods to get Mint onto a 2007 Core 2 duo? Thanks.

[@cucho69]

@@staninjapan07 I don’t know, but I figure there must be good documentation on the Mint site, or better on Debian. I hope you have success with your Mac and can install GNU/LINUX Descargue Reverso Context App GRATIS

[@staninjapan07]

@@cucho69 thanks for the heads-up

[@Xiefux]

I still use win 7. Its far better than win 8 or 10 EDIT: i upgraded to win 10. its not that bad.

[@The8BitGuy]

+A Banana - Agreed.

[@Mrvideosandgames]

+Melvin Duineveld (melvin2204) Xp, hmm? Care to visit my website with Internet Explorer? >:D

[@cybernakulum]

+Melvin Duineveld (melvin2204) Even newest versions of XP have a lacking 64-bit processor support with their unusual x86-64 architecture. It's also not supported by Windows in any way anymore, its harder and harder to find games that run well on it, and if you'd want to do any type of professional work on it using graphics/editing/design program, you'd find its simply obsolete. XP is Microsoft's best product of all time, but within 3-4 years it will be totally useless.

[@jskwk2424]

+A Banana Windows 10 is better.

[@KorbenTheFireX]

+A Banana no its not. (I like windows 10.)

[@rarespetrusamartean5433]

if you still remember, could you go a bit in detail about how you actually installed WIN7 using rEFIt on it? I'm getting a "Firmware refused to boot from selected volume" when trying to boot from a usb using refit :-(

[@rarespetrusamartean5433]

@@AyrisX86 I was trying to put on a 32 bit os found out later you just couldn't install off of usb on my exact model and my dvd reader was busted so it was game over for it

[@gsilva220]

Someone just gave me an early 2008 macbook with a core 2 duo and 1GB of ram in it. It will run OS X up to 10.7 (Lion), but on top of having to pay for it, all browsers i saw would require at least OS X 10.10 to be able to install. I had to decide if I would keep it as kind of a collectible, or install another OS and use it normally. Done some performance tests and it behaved quite well, so I put 4 GB of ram in it and installed windows 10 64 bit (just burn a DVD, pop it in the drive, wait a few minutes and it'll work). Works like a charm. The next upgrade will be an SSD.

[@mannys9130]

@Brother OOFSAUCE When one is unable to use Mac OS in day to day life because Apple releases updates that don't run on old machines, you are forced to go to a better OS like Windows. Apple loves forcing people to upgrade by breaking their old machine or striking them from updating by restricting the specs of new software. OP did the right thing, buddy. 😄

[@jamiebutler5764]

how long was the battery life lasting?

[@The8BitGuy]

+Jamie Butler Well, I bought a brand new battery for it. The one I bought for $60 didn't come with a battery.

[@yunglemonakis]

+The 8-Bit Guy who ships a fricken mac without a battery? also i have a toshiba a300 and its not obsolete for me

[@patrickcarrillo714]

Intel x86 based Mac's were literally just PC's with an Apple Logo on it I personally still think its dumb that they moved away from x86 and switched to arm as the machines will become obsolete faster as Windows can't be installed on it anymore and bootcamp is no more

[@garirry]

Nice video. One great thing is that if you wait even just a single year for the Core 2 Duo to be released, they are much, MUCH more compatible and versatile than the previous model. It can run much more apps, much faster them even, not to mention it can run 10.7.5, or even 10.8.5 after a hack. I have an Early 2008 MB running ML and everything works like a charm, well, almost. Even a few 2D modern Steam games worked fine. It has 2GB of RAM, but I'll upgrade to 4GB hopefully soon. So, those ones are certainly not obsolete. And if you go a bit farther in time to Late 2008/Early 2009, then you can still run El Capitan without a hiccup. Great video. Oh, and ignore the haters. They're just jealous because they can't afford Macs! :D

[@raafmaat]

+Garirry huh jealous because we cant afford macs? :P haha a gaming pc is much more expensive than some crappy mac notebook ;)

[@garirry]

raafmaat Just you dare bringing a gaming PC into a PC vs Mac argument again.

[@raafmaat]

Garirry well you pretty much stated all apple haters cant afford macs ;) obviously alot of the apple haters actually have very expensive PCs is all im saying ;)

[@garirry]

raafmaat Well, gamers don't really care what they're getting, as long as it's powerful and can play their games fine. I'm talking about regular customers.

[@raafmaat]

Garirry with regular customers you mean people who only use their notebook to browse the web? cause then yes, you would probably be right

[@hoseinqadam]

Apple forces the machine to become obsolete, once the hardware can run the latest of OS (windows in this case) then it won't be obsolete for a while. For $60.00, I can use this as an everyday laptop for school as it can run the latest office under the windows OS just fine. This is the side of Apple I really dislike, they force you to update just so they can get sales, (even though the machine can be used for a bit longer). I am not familiar with Apple and their OS, but what would happen if you tried to install the latest versions of OSX?

[@blakebedford-palmer6676]

I have a macbook from 2008 that let me update to the latest OS. any older than that can only run an older version

[@aa60660]

+Blake Bedford-Palmer aluminum?

[@patchouli3422]

Officially, the 06-07 models can only run up until 10.6.8 since it's the last x86 compatible version. 10.7 and newer are strictly 64 bit, though you can rig a copy of 10.7.5 to run on a Core Duo mac.

[@romannasuti25]

this does leave a weird (but very pleasant) situation: Older Mac pros are super cheap now and can be, with some upgrades, made into beastly windows workstations. You can install a lot of modern graphics cards these days and the core2quad generation ones can even be overclocked a little, from a 2.8ghz version to 3.2 comfortably. This, plus the relatively low price of FBDIMM memory these days, means that one of the best desktop workstations you can get these days on a tight budget is, oddly enough, a Mac pro.

[@romannasuti25]

also, the reason they're cheap is because Apple has made them incompatible with the newest versions of OS10 (particularly Sierra).

[@AldenMoellerInc]

can you do an episode on the plastic imac from 2006 with the intel core 2 duo running at 1.83 ghz?

[@lmoore3rd]

Watching this in 2018 on a Late 2008 era MacBook Core 2 Duo running El Capitan...I've gotten more than my money's worth out of this machine.

[@cashbonanza963]

runs latest windows but not latest MacOS, proof of planned obsolescence

[@cashbonanza963]

Nathan Bullock Apple has always been about money. Are you familiar with the new MacBook Pro (Pro=Profit). Even the £1500 2TB SSD is integrated to the motherboard along with the £800 CPU , GPU and RAM. so basically if your motherboard gets grilled there's no way you will get your data back and if you wanna get another motherboard you will have to pay for the whole thing including the SSD, RAM, CPU... even though they're in a perfect working order. Am done with Apple

[@sweetspotendurance]

SeemsLegitGaming I disagree. Windows 7 is lightweight compared to newer OSX and the Cocoa toolkit.

[@MiguelVergaraK]

ed tyler Only this particular model because 32-bit support was dropped. IIRC the core 2 duo version runs at least up to Yosemite or el Capitan or perhaps even Sierra, IDK, but I do know it runs way past Snow Leopard

[@TheJerzyslugga]

ed tyler You caught that too right lol makes no sense ohh it does they jus want ya 💰 smh

[@elrifle24]

apple always does that

[@ZachAgape]

Very interesting video! Also nice to know you're still doing videos (though that was in was in 2015 xD)

[@oyunbuzu14]

who is watching in 2018?

[@tarkang657]

oyun buzu

[@Hacker-cw9lc]

me

[@lepterfirefall]

No...2038.

[@catgarcia2238]

Just pick up one a few days ago

[@TheMailrouter]

2019

[@canaan_perry]

It's 2019 and I'm watching this on a Macbook Pro mid-2010 2.4GHZ Core Duo 2, 16gb Ram, 500GB SSD with High Sierra and it kills. It's like a new machine.

[@louisvilletech7765]

how good can it edit 4k video

[@canaan_perry]

@@louisvilletech7765 I don't use it for video work. Although I have done some Camtasia projects with it for work. It's just my main personal machine for internet etc but it runs like a dream (after some upgrades) and I have owned it for nearly a decade. I have a HP Workstation for heavy audio work with Protools and Reaper though.

[@gamerepic4750]

i have that same macbook but its keyboard is broken

[@cloneskiller]

I enjoy your is it obsolete series. keep up the good work!

[@cubedmelons876]

This video’s message is especially relevant now in 2021, when Apple is about to abandon Intel for their own chips. I’m not sure if Apple will continue supporting Intel macs for long, especially after how fast they dropped PowerPC. However, just install Windows and the mac goes from obsolete mac to a normal intel PC that will be supported until the hardware dies.

[@fierelier7691]

not true, as of windows 11. 32-bit machines will be abandoned by microsoft after 2025, when windows 10 ceases updates. use debian, or devuan instead. they still have interest in these old platforms. it's a bit of a learning curve, especially if you have a proprietary wifi card (which is likely), but it's worth it, if you wanna keep using your machine. i recommend using Xfce as the desktop environment, it's relatively light, and can likely be suited to your needs, may you be a macOS or windows user. i still depend on windows, and i will probably keep using windows 7 for a couple of years, still.

[@cubedmelons876]

@@fierelier7691 I was more referring to the more recent 64 bit Intel macs released closer to the transition to Apple Silicon. The 32 bit macs from 2006 would be better off with Linux at this point, but then again, they're from 2006. Keeping a Bush-era laptop running in 2025 requires a lot of luck and handling with extreme care. I'm more concerned about Apple dropping support for their 3-4 year old hardware.

[@FSM_Reviews]

As of October 3rd, 2019, I have two Core Duo processors in my possession.

[@TGAProMKM]

one of the good retro channel i ever encountered these guy is awesome....

[@glennzone12]

Is it me or does this guy sound a bit like Austin Evans?

[@saugkenny3828]

Ehhh... Maybe

[@Ryff.]

+LinusTechTips a little older

[@wilco886]

+Linus Fedora Tips an older version maybe

[@FondueFondante]

HermosaBeachJoe Wtf are you saying Austin Evans isnt autistic

[@HermosaBeachJoe]

Miiick3y its pretty obvious he is. Look how awkward he is with other youtubers.

[@Doriandotslash]

You totally skimmed past Ubuntu and you used the most resource hungry desktop environment for Ubuntu! Running Linux would have by far been the fastest had you chosen Ubuntu Gnome, or Lubuntu, or Xubuntu...

[@RhoTrepaan]

Heh nice timing for finding this little episode; I was just gifted a cor2duo version with a broken harddrive (i have a spare), a worn out battery (doable to purchase a new one), and the charger was broken. I ‘m planning on refurbishing it and giving it away. This video showed me it’s probably still a reasonable machine. (Even though the youtube is also dated) Thanks 👍

[@Liofa73]

Can you make a tutorial about dual booting installation?

[@Liofa73]

Specifically using a Mac and dual booting windows.

[@user-di1de7zm2b]

+Liofa use boot camp. Done.

[@coolduder1001]

I'm wondering about a windows xp dedicated machine, so I can play games like call of duty one and lego island. Any suggestions?

[@ben10029]

Mitch McCann gfj

[@maxoneill6582]

Mitch McCann a core 2 duo an a gt 210

[@coolduder1001]

anything smaller?

[@coolduder1001]

what about a windows 98 machine for half life?

[@coolduder1001]

ok thanks anyway

[@iphonegeekyboy]

WOW OMG ur channel has grown so big at first i find you to look dam familiar i remembered i book guy you bought old g4's to refurb and sell cheers man time to subscribe.

[@dlol.]

Who is watching this in 2017

[@bxvideony]

Dlolgamer guilty as charged

[@oldipodee]

im watching because I want a macbook white 2006-2009 just to play minecraft on a better laptop

[@TheJerzyslugga]

Dlolgamer i jus bought one dirt cheap in 2017 lol

[@nickguitarguy1]

Got a Macbook white 2007 core 2 duo given to me. Already upgraded RAM with some sitting here, gonna do the SSD and optical drive and dual boot OSX 10.7.5 and Windows 10.

[@TheJerzyslugga]

Nicholas Graham Nice!!! 👍

[@xxvocutaudex3128]

for some reason this mac book runs minecraft better than my 2014 hp sleekbook with intel hd graphics

[@truely7744]

Astronomy & More! You clearly never heard of graphics card

[@PCReloaded]

Anything is bad with the name "HP" On It. In my words "HP" Stands For "Horrible Products"

[@metrabyte03]

Intel hd graphics are terrible

[@ZanderSwart]

this computer can now have a drink in some countries.

[@NMihaiV]

I've been a PC user since i was 10 years old, could have bought an Apple computer but it just wasn't for me. That doesn't mean Apple has bad stuff, it just means that the stuff i wanted to do was bad for Apple. There are a lot of programs out the that run better on an Apple computer, but just because you don't use those programs that doesn't automatically make Apple suck or any less good than a PC.

[@GamertjesGM]

+Elliot Lockett No...

[@MicahTheManiac]

"I hate Windows 8 with a passion." doesn't everyone? (Also let's not forget Vista...)

[@rcollosi]

I actually like windows 8 and vista more. I absolutely hate windows 10.

[@williamnixon3994]

8 was... alright after they fixed a lot of the most glaring of flaws, I have no experience with Vista though

[@kawmic7]

Vista and 8 sucks 7&10 rocks!

[@jakexd5524]

Vista is fine, it is hated because it was too hard to run for many PCs.

[@MattchewX]

If this is ever revisited, you should try CloudReady (or some other build of Chromium OS). I still regularly use a Late-2007 Black Core 2 Duo Macbook with CloudReady when I'm not doing any "real PC" stuff and I'm pretty impressed how smoothly it does pretty much everything. Granted you're stuck with Chrome Apps/Extensions (so no non-web-based games like Minecraft), but it makes an 11 year old laptop feel like a new, off-the-shelf Chromebook.

[@iiNekoMattyii]

i got the 17 inch with the core duo supporting 2 gb of ram. its kinda nice tbh

[@carlgrimes662]

Is a iMac 2009 obsolete?

[@DierkBentPiening]

No, put a SSD into it, and it feels like an new one

[@carlgrimes662]

Dierk-Bent Piening wat if u can't i don't want to risk braking it I'm 14 so i can't risk

[@DierkBentPiening]

Upgrade RAM and put a SSD into it. It is very easy.. I can help you, if u want

[@carlgrimes662]

+Dierk-Bent Piening yeah sure

[@carlgrimes662]

+birthdaybrian I got a question my Mac is a mid 2009 can it handle 720p videos and render them in reasonable time it's old I don't expect to run like today pc cause I bought it for starting videos for gaming at 720p

[@alf279]

I am using my Late 2007 MacBook Black to this date. It has the 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo, 4 gigs of ram and I put a 120gb ssd in it alongside a 640gb hdd replacing the superdrive. Until last year I used it with OS X 10.7.5 Lion (latest version for this model), then I switched to Windows 10 - and this laptop is still perfect. I use it every day for work and taking notes in college, watching movies and browsing the internet. I have a new battery that makes it perfectly portable and usable on the go. I think this is what makes MacBooks and all Apple computers incredible: after almost 10 years I can still use the MacBook and even though OS X is not the best on it anymore, the latest Windows still runs smooth as silk without any compromises.

[@anibalromero619]

i'll fade away and classify myself as obsolete

[@siagianpradipta94]

Delete!

[@Crlarl]

Hating Apple is just the popular thing to do.

[@McDonnellDouglasMD87]

Hello, Whats the model of the Macbook on the right at 7:16? The one with the black bezel and the black / white casings? Thank you..

[@plankalkulcompiler9468]

Its still not obsolete in 2019 with Ubuntu Mate.

[@plankalkulcompiler9468]

@@Vessick people who have a laptop that old surely cares about those stuff if they would like to resurrect their laptops as they can't sell it.

[@kruxdt6307]

Ubuntu mate for the win am using it on my C2D Macbook pro 2010

[@kruxdt6307]

@@Vessick Nobody cares about what you say

[@MiningMadness0029]

Says "Well under $100" Shows Ebay models for $99.99

[@eperdu]

Lol

[@eperdu]

1 cent less than $100

[@kathorror7103]

I (accidentally) bought a MacBook (not pro or air) unibody from late 2008. I’m planning on getting a SSD & upgrading it to snow leopard to update it a bit more. Hope to get some more life from the laptop. It’s in nice shape physically but since it’s so out of date nothing is supported 😢I’ve never done anything like this with computers but watching you through the years has given me the confidence to learn & try for myself!

[@theotester]

Well, you cold update up to Mac OS 10.11 El Capitan, which is not that much outdated.

[@thegreypenguin5097]

There was 2013 Word

[@Thorcooper1]

...which was for Windows.

[@CanoTheVolcano]

Any Windows after 7 is not worth buying anyway

[@markm0000]

Windows 7 is on its last legs. I suggest just going to Windows 10 nowadays on a fresh install.

[@CanoTheVolcano]

Mark M I can say that after using windows 10 and 8 that my Windows 7 Professional is way faster and easier to use.

[@KebunH]

Its strange you say this as a gamer, as windows 7 simply does not have the same performance in games as the newer windows 8 and 10. Sure windows 7 was powerful for its time, and windows 8 sure sucks balls, but there is no denying the lightweight of windows 10 (and 8) and the simple lack of dx12 support for win7. Look up some benchmarks if you dont believe me, it makes a difference

[@CanoTheVolcano]

Kevin van den Hoek I am not a PC gamer myself (I'm mostly Nintendo), but I know someone who is one and he said that his games ran better on Windows 7 than they do on his Windows 10. I actually got his Windows 7 as my PC when he "upgraded" to Windows 8.

[@cooliscool]

This is fanboy, uninformed nonsense. Windows 10 is a great, lightweight OS which outclasses Windows 7 in every way. If you gave it a chance and used it for a few months, I'm certain you'd realize that.

[@loughkb]

Here it is the latter part of 2017 and I still have a core duo mac mini on my workbench. It's running ubuntu mate and still plugging away. I use it to look up stuff, download manuals and schematics for things I'm working on, play music while I'm working, and even watch you tube vids. The only thing I can't do is yahoo email, which requires a 64 bit version of any browser now. Chrome is only available in 64 bit, but Chromium, the open source browser chrome is based on, is still available in 32 bit at the current version. The CD drive in the machine even works and it's like 12 years old now? Back when apple built them to last longer than the warranty period.

[@sid-mw7nz]

0:44 Linux rocks! Linux sucks!

[@elModo7]

THE INDIVIDUAL IS OBSOLETE

[@megatronmike1334]

BEEE BOOOP !!!!!(says the Mac)

[@ronb6182]

Some of the most obsolete devices bring money in on ebay.

[@Monosekist]

Bring this series back!

[@hunterearl1273]

Thumbs UP for Windows 10

[@BlizzardfurYT]

i like 8.1

[@ronb6182]

Windows xp was their best operating system went downhill after win 7. I had ME on my first computer from win 98. But upgrade versions required extra loading and I just put 98 back on when the computer crashed. Xp was my favorite operating system. I wouldn't mind trying xp on a macbook.

[@krypton1142]

Bob Jedi i have windows 10, its slow and too easy to use, i cant use it properly I prefer windows 7 or xp

[@TheOnlyTaxPayer]

Hunter Earl sorry I’m sticking with windows 7 or Mac OS X Mojave

[@christiankyrmse5990]

Apple is awesome

[@JoSephGD]

I have an iMac model 11,2. Now that it's been unsupported for over 2 years, is it obsolete yet?

[@AlienFrequency]

I don't get why ANYONE would ever want to use a PC over a Mac...The vast majority of Apple haters have probably never used a Mac. I've used both, and I would never ever go back to a PC ...

[@SirMalorak]

Honest answer? Gaming and price. 1) Most games don't get ported to iOS. Which isn't hater speech, but sadly the truth. You'll need to run software to get the games (or be lucky and your fav games do get ported to it.) 2) Mac costs WAY more than PC. Don't speak around the bush, that's a fact. If you get a custom built PC for ~1000€ you'll be fine for years and went overkill...Whereas you didn't even start to get a proper gaming rig with Mac.

[@AlienFrequency]

Macs actually no longer cost more than PCs, as a general rule (in US). Like anything else, it just depends on the specs. Plus, I have Macs from literally 2001 that are still going strong today, whereas every PC I had broke down within a year or two at the most. Personally, I do my gaming on consoles ...BTW, Mac OSX isn't the same as iOS. iOS is for iPhone, iPad and iPod, and has hundreds of thousands of games on it, if that's your thing. :)

[@SirMalorak]

***** Word.

[@AlienFrequency]

***** name calling? really? are you 5?

[@AlienFrequency]

No need to give 10 reasons and my taste in music is completely irrelevant. I just know the PCs I've owned lasted 1-2 years, while I've never once had a Mac break down, since my first one I got in 2001 (which still runs fine). Anyway, I'm wasting my time talking to you. When you start off a rebuttal with childish name calling, it totally invalidates anything you have to say, in my book. So, good day to you.

[@MGF0x]

iHATEWINDOWS 8

[@theninjaend7473]

NoNameUser me too

[@theninjaend7473]

NoNameUser i like 8.1

[@MGF0x]

TheNinjaEnd Windows 8 sucks, 8.1 is better

[@jarretc110]

this is the only generation of apple computer i've ever had. got one in 2007 and used it until it died in 2013.

[@157dixon]

I just bought a MacBook core 2 duo because my other laptop a dell latitude 5500 had trouble doing anything anymore. It is amazing that macs are still running this efficient

[@154Kilroy]

Saw this referred to in another video and had to come see. Fyi, at least as of July 2023 when Im writing this, Mac OS 10.11 is needed for Bootcamp to work if you want to dual boot the 2 operating systems. I have a 2008 Macbook with Snow Leopard and I couldn't get Windows on it. Although I thinks it still technically possible. I also have a 2009 Macbook with 10.11 and that installed Windows 7 just fine (Im sure 10 or 11 would work, but its being used for old games that wont run on the newer OS). Bootcamp seems to work surprisingly well at finding drivers and I recommend using it if you can. These things are cheap and pretty decent hardware wise for their time. The 2008 was $50, the 2009 $75, and I just got a 2010 Macbook Pro for $20 without a hard drive, which I had an SSD laying around so no problem. That installed Windows without Mac OS just fine. Bootcamp was already on a flashdrive and found the correct drivers for this computer too. Even though it was setup on the older one. Definitely recommend grabbing one if you can find it for a good price.

[@ardenpips]

Almost 8 years after this video was published It’s still entertaining!

[@neto9217]

Great video, can you make more "Is It Obsolete" videos for other computers like this? I really enjoy watching these videos.

[@plisskentv6501]

this is my favorite 8bitguy vid easily

[@timoschannel1363]

It would be interesting if you redo this video for 2020. Do you think a 32-bit system such as this is still usable in 2020? There's certainly less operating systems supporting 32-bit, but there are some that still do.

[@hoikay1]

I would say 32 bit systems see still not obsolete since Windows 10 still comes in 32 bit flavours and the majority of essential programs for Windows still come with a 32 bit version including Office 365 and Chrome.

[@kalibisaboss7232]

ha ha i'm watching this on the same macbook (also watching in 2019) love your channel! keep posting great videos!

[@okidave]

Thanks for posting your video; it gave me a little more insight about my MBP Core Duo. I picked up an A1150 (MBP 1, Late 2006) from a friend for $200. I mainly bought it for the 500GB EVO 840 SSD it had so I could swap that with my primary laptop's 250GB SSD. After that my intent was to sell it for the same price I bought it for since I am not an Apple user. I am only an Apple user at work since I have to support the system for customers. However, like a stray animal my newly purchased MBP grew on me and I decided to keep it long-term. I have Windows 7 running on it using Boot Camp and I hope to try out Windows 10. The A1150 model can only be updated to OS X 10.6.8 and it only accepts 2GB RAM.

[@williamdrum9899]

4:06 Weird how it shows the Dell logo even though this is a macbook. Maybe that's the default when it can't find a logo?

[@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim]

this video now is almost as old as the Core Duo was in the video which makes this an Obsolete 2 Video 😂

[@MegaTechpc]

Where on Earth did you find this Macbook for $60?!?! I mean, I know you said on Ebay but when I just checked for 2009-2010 Macbooks with the C2D in them I found that the condition of every single one of them was no where near the example you have in your video. They all look super beat up outside, with cracked hinges, major scuffs on the top and bottom, cracked screens, discolorations of the plastic, etc. Yours looks pristine!!!

[@MarioPalomera]

It would be great to have a video about the process of installing windows 10 on one of those, great work!

[@AiOinc1]

And here I come along, running Windows 2000 until January of this year...

[@XelaPilled]

I might pick one of these up as a Linux machine now, thanks for making this.

[@aswingsharif6729]

4 years old video, and it popped up when I open youtube... make me curious to tweak my old laptops

[@mrz80]

I have my daughter's old high school daily driver - a mid2007 core2duo white plastic macbook. It works well enough but the battery's dead and since one of her classmates either fell on or stepped on her backpack at some point the LCD is shattered. I've got a replacement LCD out in the garage somewhere, but since I recently was gifted with a late 2011 i5 Macbook pro that runs Ubuntu Studio VERY well, some of the urgency scuffed off the fix-the-daughter's-old-laptop project. :D

[@HR-wd6cw]

One thing to keep in mind is that while you may not be able to reproduce any negative effects in an older browser from a browsing standpoint, its the behind the scenes stuff that is probably the bigger concern, such as security holes, etc, that may not be apparent (and if that version of the browser is no longer being updated -- or that newer versions won't work on an outdated OS, that can be an even bigger concern/problem than a site just not working or appearing correctly). I guess that would be my biggest concern for using an old computer in modern times (ie. today). If the computer was NOT being used on the Internet, then that would be different as the threat of infection or intrusion is slim to none since the computer is not connected to the Internet, and then I would say that it's not necessarily obsolete, but from a security standpoint, something like this may be. If a computer can run Windows 10, than it can run Windows 8/8.1 so there really isn't a need to test. But what this actaully shows you is that Apple is more about designed obsolescence than Microsoft is, even though people claim Microsoft is perhaps the more "evil" of the two companies. Part of this may be that Apple sells hardware, and provides (bundles) the software with the computers, whereas Microsoft only specializes in software and doesn't have a lot of control (or the ability to design into the hardware side of things) designed obsolescence like Apple can (and does, as is exhibited by the whole battery debacle in the iPhones, where Apple admitted the slow-down on older iPhones partially as a means to get people to buy new ones or pay to have their batteries replaced).

[@joshlegg8600]

I still use this mac as my television, connected to a eyeTV and a external hdd full of movies. This mac was brilliant for recalls, as its the first gen the top case plastics on the palm rest reacted to the oils in your hands and went a festy yellow. The notches on the top of the screen will cause the top case to crack at the front and you will also get little hairline cracks all over the machine especially around the screw locations.

[@florida-boy]

This video makes me appreciate my 2010 MacBook

[@atomicorang]

Nice job.. You always are interesting to watch and learn from sir

[@captiancraft3020]

I got my first MacBook from mid 2009 and I got to say, as a person who used windows for most of his life, it works just fine and it even runs OS X Yosemite just fine.

[@fierelier7691]

worth noting that the main reason for today's slowness on old computer is the bloated browsers. if your applications do not depend on browser frameworks (a lot of them do now, you might be surprised), you'll have a lot of fun working with almost any machine. -- it's a shame so little interest exists in making optimized software.

[@NomadicDmitry]

Still usable, btw. I have Core 2 Duo iMac from 2006 - well, it's usable!