A week with a G4 - Are they obsolete?

In this video, I tackle the question of the PowerPC G4 and if it is actually obsolete already. So I force myself to go an entire week using nothing but computers powered by a G4 processor and find out whether I can live with it. In the end, I discovered that as long as you don't mind using some software that is slightly out-of-date (IE: Photoshop, final-cut-pro), there is very little that you can't do on one of these. Also I would mention that when I made the video, Camino was the best browser. However, I now recommend TenFourFox as the best browser for PowerPC systems.

[@McBroTime]

“I’d like to see Adobe Flash disappear”, boy do I have good news for you

[@sietuuba]

All that's needed is to port over, and support, a modern and secure browser to run on an architecture that's one more architecture switch older now.

[@Electrex8]

And Electron has taken it's place!

[@alpzepta]

It’s not good news for Nostalgia sake though

[@lianrobintribunal484]

Adobe Flash is not avaliable for MacBooks or iBooks

[@MrSchillergaming]

11 years too late

[@bandombeviews6035]

"Im actually a bit of a retro gamer" Understatment of the century

[@cederveltman]

I literally scrolled down to type exactly that

[@doge2131]

Same but only 16 and 8-bit

[@EricICX]

2010: "A week with a G4: Are they obsolete?" 2018: "A week with a 2010 Mac Mini: Are they obsolete?"

[@dustinschings7042]

Haha funny you mention the 2010 Mini, I just got one. Its a bit slow, but it gets the job done. The SSD helps. It could use more than 4GB RAM. Runs Mojave well for the most part.

[@ericwood3709]

@@dustinschings7042 Look into updating your Mini's firmware, if needed, and upgrading to 8 GB. It should be possible. Although the machine only ever officially supported 4 GB, Apple put out a firmware update that made it possible to use 8 GB.

[@funposting8912]

My 2010 mini gets so hot now I need to lock the fans on max to stop it from doing an emergency shutdown, but I’m sure if I pulled it apart and redid its thermal paste it’d be fine. I was using it as a server until it “died” in 2019, more than enough

[@JamesnLollify]

2021: "Using an Intel Mac in 2021, is it obsolete?"

[@raven4k998]

@@dustinschings7042 ssd's help alot cause those old spinner drives do get slower with age and as the drive gets filled up where as the ssd will still run just as fast despite those variables

[@FastBenny]

"a week with a g4 - are they obsolete?" in 2010 me still using my iBook to watch movies in 2020 nope Edit: 2023 and it still works just fine.

[@exploregadgets1774]

I also use my powerbook g4 to watch movies with Ubuntu.

[@lps8216]

I use an old Mac mini to us Mac OS server

[@minicyan7364]

Me packing my dell into a empty g4 shell: I use a g4

[@FastBenny]

@@exploregadgets1774 i mean it functions perfectly as a movie player and even internet browser

[@exploregadgets1774]

@@FastBenny No way my powerbook which is superior to the ibook struggles to load every site in tenfourfox .

[@mattcarroll273]

2010 was almost 7 years ago... WHAT

[@LateNightFire]

yea, Pretty much

[@KaienSander10Official]

I feel old...

[@quadro128]

almost 6 years because it is from december

[@Mikecrafter5000]

damn. time really does go fast when you're having fun.

[@blackterminal]

Yeah, totally agree.

[@hyun-shik7327]

Crazy that this video is now older than these computers were at the time.

[@Kennephone]

It's older now than even the first imac was back then

[@bloogies2764]

7:00 is sounds like he is about to cry

[@abdulazizahmed5684]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JoaoAzevedoGeek]

This Video is already obsolete

[@callialentz]

Lol yup

[@matthijsjanse3275]

+João Azevedo aaaaaaaaaaaaa!!

[@_srg_ijustwatchvids_5198]

like ypu

[@flipster3156]

+CaptainCreeperyo Obsolete can't describe a person, it doesn't make sense.

[@_srg_ijustwatchvids_5198]

+Flipster Exactly

[@duncanmurphy8085]

"720p High Definition" my how time flies

[@somerandomguy5977]

720p is HD, 1080p is full HD 4k is Ultra HD, you get the point. 720p is literally always going to be HD

[@somerandomguy5977]

@@heyiamparker not KZbin's opinion. 720p will always be HD. 480p will always be standard definition if you live in North America. I shouldn't have to explain it twice, they add shit in front of it to clarify. Standard definition 480, HD 720, full HD 1080, ultra HD 4k. Don't be a fucking idiot. I don't care if you don't think it's not HD enough to be HD it's not an opinion.

[@kalinstephens5832]

Some Random Guy sure 720 is HD, it’s still terrible. It gets you by if you’re in a jam.

[@IoIxD]

Yep, there is no way a sane person can edit a 1080p video on an iBook now, it would lag so much. A 4K video would just crash the computer.

[@Memphis229-f6m]

this is when it was a feature

[@BastetFurry]

Care to repeat this in 2016? :D

[@BastetFurry]

+ExoticXT, not in the slightest, i might be tempted to try to live one week with a RasPi3 running Raspbian, just for the heck of it.

[@BastetFurry]

*****, i should mention that i am a Linux user and run Lubuntu on my desktop, even for gaming. ;)

[@boxingmaster2663]

+Bastet Furry Linux is a virus

[@TheSavage3.6]

+Bastet Furry Don't hate me but i like Mac :3

[@xshadow_lep0r3d86]

LOL

[@MinecarftAaron]

Could you do a update video of this please, it's been 6 years

[@MichaelD8393]

I can, I've been using an 867mhz Titanium PowerBook G4 for a couple weeks now. It seems to work ok for most things. I'm using Aurora as my browser on it and I can watch KZbin pretty decently. A little buggy, but not too bad.

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

This is obviously way obsolete now. But still capable of the same exact tasks that were shown in the video. The problem is inability to run any remotely complex modern program on that hardware and the fact that it's so old means that it will break, and repair would be hard to find and economically inadequate.

[@HarryPujols]

These laptops are very easy to find, so repairing them and upgrading them is a breeze. They may not run the latest software, but they can still do most of what new software can do. Totally not obsolete yet.

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

"so reparing and upgrading them is a breeze" - absolutely random conclusion that is not based on anything, unless you repaired the laptop lately. Since they are pretty cheap, a simple repair would cost more than a new device. Collecting spare parts, doing diagnostics and microelectronics work for almost nothing - no sane service man would do that. That's true even for a lot more newer laptops. "still can do most what new software does" - bs, they can't. Not enough juice to run modern tasks even if there for some reason was some obsolete developer who would still continue it. Unless of course text editors is your "most modern software". overall this is a case of a fan who bases his judgement on his tech faith and religion rather than simple facts.

[@HarryPujols]

Alexey Filippenko sorry, because your random conclusion isn't it more random? You know that it only takes to figure it out yourself lmgtfy.com/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ifixit.com%2FDevice%2FiBook_G4

[@lopeo2324]

4:51 Well your wish is coming true.

[@The8BitGuy]

The most reliable ones seem to be the G3 clamshells and the G4 units that were made up to 1.2 Ghz. The 1.33 and 1.42 ghz iBooks often suffer from the airport lockup problem.

[@Bfm359]

Please, do more of these videos about old macs and if they are obsolete ! I beg you.

[@deraffeaufyoutube]

"Just one more reason I'd like adobe flash to disappear" Your wish has been granted. A decade later, but still granted.

[@nickwhitman6319]

The main thing I've learned from your videos is that I spend way to much on computers with more power than I need. haha

[@Funnie8]

I feel you. I work with an i7 PC, but for personal life and college I use my macbook white 2009 and it does everything I need it to.

[@dingleberryshitsickle3894]

i am using the same macbook to type this comment

[@cristobal521]

Exactly. I'm writing this from a mid 2010 white Macbook which works just fine with 5gb of ram (I wanted to put 8 gb on it but didn't find a 1067 kit here in my country)

[@nikprobg9327]

Nick Whitman Buy overpowered PC's because even if they get old they will have the same power as the new PC's. If u buy an overpowered PC in 2016 it will be still good to go years later.

[@423FGFDFHFHV]

If u get a better computer u will be able to type you instead of u.

[@sheabaee180]

PPC users in 2010: So i can edit HD video and watch youtube PPC users in 2022: I can access googles mobile site at the speed of a 56k modem

[@The8BitGuy]

@Chipudnik - The key was converting all of the clips over to the AIC codec BEFORE importing them into final-cut-pro. If I had not done that, it would have been misery trying to edit them.

[@Legacy20999]

Woah I didnt realise this video was that old until the date popped up on the screen.

[@mercurialmagictrees]

Legacy huh wow

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

ikr

[@SugaryTube]

This is my favorite tech channel! You have the same way of thinking as I do sir! I need devices that do basic stuff just decent! Keep up the good work!

[@LysiX]

1:23 "top of the line" picks up an ibook g4 instead of a powerbook g4

[@lilorangefella]

He mentioned in his iBook vs MacBook video that it was very rare for him to have a Powerbook G4 or a MacBook Pro since he didn't collect those machines at the time.

[@LeilaniGarcia1]

Glad you got the 1mil subscriber you deserved. I knew this channel since 2011 and wondered why no was watching the brilliant content

[@Dyl_Apple]

I’ve been watching since 2016 and his channel definitely had more viewers than it did in 2011 but I thought the same thing, I was wondering how he didn’t have a million subs I think he was about 300k or 500k at the time

[@obsoletegeek]

I have a mint and boxed iBook G4 with similar specs as the one you featured in this video! I've been considering pulling it out and trying some alternative PPC operating systems. Amiga OS being one of them

[@Memphis229-f6m]

Oh my gosh

[@MusicFilmArtLover]

Great video. I would love for you do an update video on this same laptop!

[@abbythings]

Do you still have it?

[@narenchris711]

2020: "watching 2010 video in 2020 -- is it obsolete?'

[@StevenChristie]

finding this video is like uncovering a relic

[@pashikcraft]

"Just one more reason I'd like to see Adobe Flash disappear!" As a GNU/Linux user I have to do naught, but to agree :)

[@The8BitGuy]

The best way is to put the Leopard DVD in the drive and startup from that disc, format the hard drive before the install. You get a nice clean install that way.

[@mlthmp]

I remember watching this video when it came out. The channel has come along way!

[@bobtheblob2770]

crazy that he said 720p high definition

[@JoyOfficer003]

Back when this video was put out, I was using a G4 as my laptop. It was a gift because the desktop PC I had died. It was fine for a few months, until I needed to do some college work on Adobe software...the older versions I found didn't have working cracks so to keep using them I had to keep setting back the date on the G4 so the trail would never expire but that caused problems as it would make Safari think that security certificates were not real and block them all. So using the internet and Adobe was out of the question. The things I had to do because of that laptop...the battery was fucked as well, didn't last 20 Mins.

[@andrew_sar]

Can we do an updated version of this in 2022?

[@mikehill2221]

Fascinating video. Many thanks. Time to trawl through your back catalogue!

[@sylvixen]

this video is 9 years old tomorrow, I had trouble believing this was made in 2010,,, you've come a long way lol, im really pleased with your content today

[@vittosphonecollection57289]

Ok that 2010 was 10 years ago but this is too much. It's 2010, not 1990

[@itscuntor]

I have a G4 which I haven't used in years, and I recently used it again to see how it still performed and I'm genuinely surprised that it is still a relatively quick little (yet heavy) laptop. Flash is a no-go, but applications load quickly and should my desktop ever bust, relying on my G4 wouldn't be such a pain.

[@RyanLeanardoe]

Should re-do this video, and then tell us.

[@Thenormalone7610]

Hey man, love your videos, I have watched them since I was a kid. Time flies. I don’t know why the KZbin algorithm recommended me this 13 years old video but here I am

[@DeviceEnforcer]

G4 vs G4: iBook G4 with 1.42 GHz processor and 1.5 GB RAM LG G4 with 2.5 GHz processor and 3 GB RAM

[@AimarAzisTV]

+F_L_A_M_E lol

[@wimlex762]

+DeviceEnforcer don't compare processor speeds from different brands and architectures, that's not how it works

[@dinosaurgamers1860]

+DeviceEnforcer XD

[@vaghatz]

+DeviceEnforcer Haha, very funny, now go back to your basement

[@rwinkle1185]

the LG G4 has a 1.8 GHz processor

[@The8BitGuy]

@HarryMatic - It would run even better if you'd upgrade it to 10.3.9. They made huge improvements in speed over 10.2.8.

[@TechDeals]

:) Wow, nice video... Ok, old now, over 5 years old, but still cool... I'll bet an iBook would still run just fine today, if you're ok staying with those versions of programs. Web pages would be slower of course, the web has become rather busy in terms of page design, but otherwise, those were made nice. Since you do PC stuff now, try the same thing on a Core2Duo, you might find it also does a good job. I have a Core2Quad Q6600 with a 40GB Intel SSD in it and 4GB of RAM and Windows 10 installed on it and it is shocking useful today, even in 2016. They can also be purchased for next to nothing on eBay (under $100).

[@joshuamast5128]

Linux is better for older computers

[@TechDeals]

Wild to reply to myself 5 years later... this just goes to show how perspectives change with time.

[@AudioTestsNReviews]

What's the recommended web browser for OSX Lion (and maybe Snow Leopard) systems, seeing that Safari is very out of date, and Chrome is not supported?

[@FilCanJay]

I have an old 12inch powerbook g4. I still love using it. Thanks for the tip on Camino and YouView! Brilliant.

[@newbleppmore7855]

what happened to youtube? its so clunky and resource heavy even though the videos are generally the same 720p

[@LegoWormNoah101]

As hardware and software gets better, businesses add more stuff that newer systems can handle, while the old stuff gets obsolete

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

Love your videos David. Keep up the good work! And thank God KZbin started using HTML5 instead of Adobe Flash, but unfortunately many other websites still use it. Apple should implement it into iOS.

[@mylofryett9160]

First one of your vids I ever watched I’ve watched been a subscriber since this video

[@songbirdd201]

Great video, it gave me hope for a bit with my G4 but I've got to replace the fans, optical drive, hard drive and battery. Some one told me at a store, not to bother with it and throw it away.

[@Uncircuited]

wait... 2010 was 11 years ago...?

[@The8BitGuy]

You can do all of the same things on them today as you could 2 years ago. But that is true of any computer. What happens is that new features arise on newer computers that often will not work on older ones. So yes, each year that goes by the newer computers can do more things, leaving the older one behind.

[@Webpixum]

Hello 8-Bit-Guy, I have a iBook G4 that I was given as a gift back in 2005 before leaving for college. I really like to use it again but the screen does not show, It only shows colors red, green, gray etc. Would you be able to fix it? just wondering. Great videos thanks for all the info.

[@NickoBlayde]

wow you've lost a lot of weight since this. i love your videos!

[@alexisgeovann]

Can it run minesweeper and GTA V at max 4k settings?

[@lhk7006]

you serious?

[@lhk7006]

Fucking GTA on 4k on a ??? year old *laptop* running *OS X*?

[@brokepetrolhead6065]

gta v maybe, but definitely not minesweeper.

[@lhk7006]

Dat Honda Kid I don't think GTA V is playable on this laptop

[@brokepetrolhead6065]

Come on. The guy is obviously joking.

[@withthemates9233]

technology from early 2000s really does not age well.

[@jonaspaulius2]

+BornOfDalek What are you talking about? I'm still using my ps2 and I think it aged very well.

[@jimbeitz6682]

+something yeah i loved those things

[@CocoTehQuila]

+something The Playstation 2 was the best console ever created. period.

[@jimbeitz6682]

Coco disk drive did die on me a few times but other than that it was amazing

[@jonaspaulius2]

Mine bought in 2001 still works flawlessly to this day.

[@VA3DSO]

Great video! And you know what? Last weekend I left my MacBook Pro at work accidentally, and being the lazy fellow that I am, I pulled out my 12" iBook G4 (1.2GHz, 1.5GB RAM, 60GB HDD) and I was amazed at how well it still worked... in 2019!!! I use TenFourFox and Tiger Webkit to surf the web, VLC to watch videos, iTunes worked fine for playing music (locally on the HDD), and I could even run Starry Night 5 which I used to plan an observing session with my telescope on the weekend. I'm not saying I'd use the G4 as my only computer, but it certainly filled in admirably for my MBP for a weekend. An awesome testament to the longevity of some Apple products. Cheers!

[@pol1250]

you put a lot of work in these videos...respect!!!

[@samatics4]

hi former ibookguy, I have a question on a ppc, I want to buy a Powermac g5 off craigslist with no HDD, is there any way I can see if the machine works without a HDD? I have one to put in it but I don't wanna buy a broken g5. thanks ahead of time.

[@AimarAzisTV]

+// Petro Sailor even though I'm not the ibookguy i can still help u. My suggestion is not to buy it because without the HDD there will be no OS on the mac so it won't even work. or What u can do is, if u are willing to buy a HDD seprately u can install windows xp or 7 on it since Apple does not provide OS install disks.

[@samatics4]

8Bit World Of Awesomeness thanks for the reply. i have decided not to buy it because it is a little fishy. and i have a hdd to use with it but ide have to install os x on it. and since its a g5, windows sadly wont work on it. thanks for the info

[@Evan2]

2:08 So wait, you processed 720p video on the iBook? Not bad.

[@PackardKotch]

ive seen core 2 duos struggle with youtube at 720p

[@DusKinggoGames]

I have a question. I dualbooted OS X with another OS X many times and now I want to dualboot OS X 10.6.8 with OS X 10.5.8, but is it possible to install OS X Leopard on a MacBook Pro mid 2010?

[@guts2048]

What screen recording software did you use or did you just use a screen capture box or whatever they're called

[@XtremeConditions]

The biggest thing I'm wondering here is... How the FUCK were the PowerPC G4 processors so powerful!? I bought a cheap laptop (Gateway M-1624) back in... '09, or so? And it struggles to edit 720p. Which isn't a problem, because I build a custom rig, AMD FX-8350, and it's been great... But still... I remember ReviewTechUSA talking about this back in the day, and why he didn't like Apple anymore. And how PowerPC-based apple computers were expensive in this day, because they had epic performance, and were significantly better than the competition. I'd say that seems to be true. But the way it was shown here? There must have been something amazing going on at IBM at the time, and even now. Look at those graphene chips they're making. Incredible stuff, that is.

[@sarahts21]

XtremeConditioning The answer to your question is... AltiVec. It's basically the equivalent of the Intel MMX instruction set for PPC hardware and was actually a LOT more grunty than MMX and a lot more used. Final Cut and such were basically using a dedicated chunk of silicon that exists to accelerate video/audio editing and rendering. I did a ton of transcoding videos in 2012 and an old G5 iMac was running rings around Core 2 Duo machines.

[@XtremeConditions]

Sissy Hmm... That does make a lot more sense now. Thanks for that info, Sissy!

[@XtremeConditions]

Sissy Oh, btw, in today's day, when you see CPU's advertised as having built-in features regarding rendering etc, is that truly the same concept, or is it different from having a dedicated piece of CPU doing those processes?

[@sarahts21]

Unless its specifically saying 'handoff' then its the CPU doing it rather than a dedicated chunk of silicon. Most of the extensions to a CPU (SSE, etc.) these days are for the most part juggling the path a given instruction will take to speed it up or send it to a specific part of the processor (like its floating point unit).

[@MrJ0mmy]

***** its the codec and setting used

[@iant720]

Only Obsolete because of flash. Just like the G5. It's kinda sad. I'm glad you can run Linux on them!

[@paianis]

+Ian Thompson KZbin uses HTML5 for video now, so the problems he had aren't relevant now.

[@Kippykip]

Now flash is obsolete itself

[@Tom2404]

Flash is sadly turned off in a few months killing thousands of games and media websites that many people put lots of work and effort into making just because Adobe says so. Now that flash is not an issue for those old Apple devices anymore KZbin and even Wikipedia still won't run on those old browsers. I think it's sad that they don't work as intended only because of outdated webbrowsers. Same with Windows XP, 2000 and 98. Back in the 80's you could buy a computer and you knew it could still work as intended (if it's not physically damaged of course) in 30 years and all software you bought back then would start up in 2020 just as it was supposed to do in 1985. Now you buy something and from day one it's basically waiting how long it takes before some big tech companies slowly start to strip your device of most of it's features. Web browsing? Forget it, your browser is too old now. You want to run Apps you bought back in the day on your iPhone 3G? No way it runs on iOS 4, maybe you can have an old version if the developer thinks that you as their customer are still worthy enought to get what you paid for back in 2010. Mobile network? Nope, 2G and 3G get turned off in favour of 5G because then you can sell expensive 5G contracts to wealthy early adopters with $1000 smartphones.

[@20EsOfficial]

hey, would i be able to put 10.5.8 on a TiBook DVI? I have the highest1Ghz model.

[@cremdelecreme]

Any chance you can do a short vid on the G3 Tower or one of the Mac minis? I'm curious as to whether they are either upgradable or of any worth as I have both sitting in my closet. Cheers!

[@RichLux713]

DO YOU HAVE A EBAY where you sell your laptops

[@briandeeb6378]

Not anymore.

[@ryandontlikeyou]

Rich Lux he dosent anymore

[@LegoWormNoah101]

He used to, but retired that long ago

[@baltimoreclarkie]

"I connected my iPhone 3G." *Looks at upload date.* Oh.....

[@Jake_Bars]

Thanks for your videos. Your channel is fantabulous!!!

[@miodragrajkovic4855]

Please can you tell me if G4 can use 110W power adapter from Intel mac mini version.

[@lbonini1gaming]

My eMac from 2002, (700Mhz, PowerPC G4) running OS X Tiger 10.4.11 can officially be considered obsolete. Web browsing is a pain, lag is an issue if you have multiple tabs open and there's lag even while browsing normal websites such as Google results or news websites. Not to mention the browsers for it are ALL out of date. Flash, while very bad as is, doesn't work at all and KZbin continues to break on the PowerPC platform as time goes on. I installed YouView and MacTubes but after switching ISP's, those apps don't work and "time out" The latest iTunes isn't compatible with Tiger or the eMac and so newer iPhones/iPods and iPads will NOT work with the computer. You can still listen to music though and you can also listen to music via Spotify, but I'm not sure for how much longer it'll be available on the PowerPC. Office work is possible but the latest version you'll be able to run MS Office is 2008 or earlier. Not many Mac users play games but if you were wondering, modern games won't work and even games like Minecraft won't work either. If you're going to buy one of these, don't expect them to work for everything you need, they're very nice computers just now very obsolete even with a 1GB RAM upgrade.

[@Happytylermovieproducction]

My ibook g3 clamshell from 1999 with 400mhz cpu and mac os 9.11 are more obsolete

[@lbonini1gaming]

Very true. Cool looking computer though.

[@dumbfishtanks]

I use an iMac from 2006 (One of the first intel ones) and surprising it runs really well. I use OS X Lion on it and every thing works fine, even KZbin runs fine in HD videos. I can even run Minecraft pretty well with little lag

[@Happytylermovieproducction]

My uncle have a 2006 imac using core 2 duo

[@whateverk.3728]

lbonini1gaming Well, its from 2002. Of course it'll be slow as f***. The eMac's that are NOT obsolete are the ones that have 1Ghz or faster processors-they will run just fine.

[@EpicPaperclip]

Why dont you people look at the date this was uploaded before commenting... the video was uploaded almost 5 years ago.

[@RustyBlade]

Now 6

[@Amy-ft5mt]

it doesn't run mp4 files well? the windows XP that I was using could play them just fine

[@karabradtmiller9892]

Can you please tell me is there any web browser that supports programs such as netflix. Every thing that I try to watch says my browser is not supported. Thank you.

[@jamesbender3809]

"In 720p high-definition, by the way" Ahh good old 2010.

[@alvzcizzler]

Of course they are obsolete just like netbook.

[@ilpatongi]

Nope. Not obsolete at all.... They work fine

[@alvzcizzler]

ShadowzPower Nope, Those things are old they are netbooks from Apple, those suck now.

[@ilpatongi]

Cesar Alvarez HD iBooks were Notebooks...

[@alvzcizzler]

ShadowzPower Whatever, iBooks are obsolete.

[@ilpatongi]

Cesar Alvarez HD You're implying that only because they're old.

[@davidhunter5802]

Watching this channel makes me feel so lucky to have the things I have :)

[@RetroJ0E]

I have a question about Mac minis: does the thermal paste in a Mac mini wear out over time? I've been noticing mine overheating to the point where it forces a reboot when I play games such as Nanosaur 2 or even Duke Nukem 3D in DOSBox.

[@katiewebster9190]

yes definitely. thermal paste dries out over time on any computer.

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

This iBook would be fine for internet browsing if web standards weren't updated every 5 minutes! People TRY to make computers obsolete. At least you can still do non-internet work on old computers. This iBook G4 is still more technologically advanced than a Windows laptop from the last few years.

[@thatguyontheright1]

I have a Mac Mini G4, and I run morphOS on it, really brings out the power of the machine, it is just snappier than it was when it ran Tiger or Leopard.

[@thatguyontheright1]

Depends on the version. Its 111 Euro ($151) for the Powerbook, Ibook, PowerMac G5. 79 Euro ($108) for the eMac, Mac Mini, and the PowerMac G4. The thing is, PPC distros of linux aren't well supported. MorphOS may be $100 (an OEM copy of Windows 8 is $100 so yea), but when you register, every new version is given to you for free.

[@funnydurant]

i still use mine as of today!

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

Jeffrey Baughman I do realize that the processor is old. However, there are plenty of things that bog down an old computer on the internet, and most don't lead up to the speed of the computer, but the almost zero compatibility it has with the new programs that it has to load, such as Flash.

[@funnydurant]

Well i have a powerbook g4 and it wont even connect to my broadband it just sits there because i use internet for about everything i do.

[@luaerve]

"high definition 720p video" yes sir, very, very very high definition for me.

[@Dusk-87]

hello sir... my g4 crashed and I can't find the osx tiger to reinstall it. can you help me out? even if I do find it on the net how do I install it with usb?

[@casino130]

Maybe you can help me, I have this same iBook G4 1.42Ghz 1.5G purchased new late 2005. New battery won’t charge when plugged in so a work around I have an external charger from OWC. Factory install discs are Tiger and highest Apple update version is 10.4.11, Besides possible updates to 10.5 I would like to be able to format and save Raspbian OS to microsd cards using a usb card writer. Unfortunately Balena-Etcher and ApplePi-Baker will neither open in Tiger so I was wondering what other options might there be for saving ISO images to microSD for Raspberry Pi using an iBook G4? Raspbian ISO Boot files download fine and are visible in Finder window but not sure what to do next.

[@RyanRosenberg]

Repeat this in 2017?

[@TumeV2]

i think that g4 is a pretty good phone lol

[@durike175]

I just commented here is updated video of "iBookGuy´s" video.. Simple ..

[@dorontsur]

Your optimism is inspiring!

[@stanmccorkle]

Grateful for the video. I’d like to see you use one of these for a week now in 2020. I’m curious if there’s any Lennix platforms that would make this computer more useful today :)

[@mrscuffy1243]

who's still watching in 2017?

[@Thirsty_Fox]

Heck I'm still watching the same day as you.

[@gabemiller9817]

Haha 🙋🏻

[@Thirsty_Fox]

The glory days of 4:3. Now we have landscape screens with portrait web sites.

[@mrscuffy1243]

correct

[@ghostman9702]

Me

[@Smurf431]

I am sitting here on a Late 2004 iBook G4, maxed out, running 10.5.8, and believe me it pretty much sucks for surfing the net because of all the flash & Java....but for email, forums, & social sites it works well most of the time. The OS with iLife & iWork is fine for what I need everyday, battery life is good, screen is great, and it cost $90 shipped....who am I to complain?!

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

Here is the main reason why computers, as they get older, suck at internet surfing: Web standards change all the time for some stupid reason. Annoying companies like Google do it all the time. They update things so frequently that everything just gets slower and slower. Top that off with Flash Flash and more Flash and your computer is getting obsolete faster and faster. If we had left the web alone and not updated web standards for no apparent reason, we'd be able to surf the web fine on 10+ year old computers. Flash needs to die and the web needs to stop being updated every 5 minutes. Having a computer be slow on the web is practically the #1 reason why computers get obsolete so fast to users. If someone's computer cannot surf fast enough, they don't want to deal with it anymore.

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

***** Even with all that, most things are slower than necessary. The worst offender is Google; everything they create is updated for no reason and lags a ton.

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

Hugo El appelero Google Chrome is horrible, especially for Mac. I would try Safari or Firefox.

[@RyanFudgeRush]

maccollectorZ (Commenting Account) firefox i think is best as im typing this from my core duo macbook 1,1 running osx lion and as ive tried all three ! Hugo PowerPC Fanboy chrome does still run on core duo macs but they are now giving a warning that it'll soon be un supported

[@RyanFudgeRush]

i know -_-

[@klnguyen279]

Which software did you use to encode the video? Thanks a lot in advance.

[@thelion.4K]

+The 8-Bit Guy I had been offered an iBook g4 with 1.2ghz and 1.25 GB ram. for 90 bucks. the only faulty part is the trackpad. Think it is worhy to buy it?

[@bloogies2764]

7:00 did he sound like he was about to cry

[@mattthompson6281]

I still use my black macbook from 08...works like the day I first took it out of the box.

[@RembertoBeltran]

Matt Thompson I have a white model that I gave to my father and he still uses it as well!

[@SuperOctimusprime]

***** Everything is still good in them.. except the battery

[@mattthompson6281]

***** not because they're intel....my iMac g4 20" is still the power house it was from the box...

[@eepymeowers]

Matt Thompson good for you

[@JS-wl3gi]

I build a older computer and upgraded it over the years eventual to usb 3. After 10 years the main board finally gave out. Yes it was slower, but not to a point of impossibility. People now run virtual machines and everything else. Computers are really close to being able to run for longer periods of time. Do you spend thousands for the same software and hardware to do the same things or do you wait longer to do so again? Alot of people did alot of things with them G4 and G5 computers.

[@vostok1459]

Question, does the iBook G3 Clamshell have a CD-ROM drive? (Or CD-R.) Thanks!

[@123RADIOactive]

To my knowledge, yes it does have at least a 24x speed CD drive. So you can definitely still be able to pop a CD in there. Also, if I recall correctly, the last kind of Clamshells that was released back in 2000 also had a DVD drive as well.

[@REPOMAN24722]

For some reason I like powerpc mac's, I think Apple lost allot of their uniqueness after the switch to intel, I want a powermac g5 but they are hard to find near me.

[@IHPU0]

I sell a powerbook G4.

[@TheOrangeType]

Jason C. A 2.5GHz processor will be utterly destroyed by a 1.5GHz processor from 2010, let alone 2015. Its 10 year old technology, its not going to be fast. I don't know where you got "Fast, even by todays standards" from but its not true. It may not be *slow* when doing light stuff like browsing the web, but put anything that needs more power than a hamster on a running wheel can provide(i.e playing HD) it will stutter like a bitch.

[@TheOrangeType]

***** WOW yes.

[@TheOrangeType]

***** Sorry am i not joining in on you lot circle jerking over your old outdated hardware? Trying hard to convince yourself its as good as todays tech? Sorry. The G5 Macs can play Battle Field 4 like a gaming PC and export 1090p in seconds.

[@TheOrangeType]

***** Circle Jerking? Needs to be more than one person to be a circle Jerk session my friend. Also, I wasn't praising new hardware, just condemning the old stuff that is horrifically out dated and obsolete. Its fact that a modern, under clocked, CPU will beat a CPU of 10 years ago even if its massively over clocked in comparison. Is stating fact circle Jerking?

[@JonasKvale]

Watched this on an iBook G4

[@JonasKvale]

I love my laptop! Worth it if your looking for an awesome older laptop.

[@MCTVDeutschland]

Jonas Kvale I've bought a Powerbook G4 because of this video. I just love my Laptop, although it's just my secondary laptop

[@aquariums411]

Jonas Kvale what browser do you use know have one kicking around but cant run most vids on youtube smoothly

[@JonasKvale]

aquariums411 Don't use browsers to watch youtube on a G4 or other PowerPC processor. Use an app called MacTubes, and go into preferences and switch the player to QuickTime player. This will allow you to search videos in MacTubes and play them back without any lag or skips at all.

[@aquariums411]

Jonas Kvale thanks

[@NoName-ut3ny]

i honestly luv your vids man keep it up

[@ronb6182]

I was wondering if I could find a cable to connect a monitor to my Macbook 4,1 it's the jack next to the LAN input before the jack that has a Y on top. Thanks for your time. Best Buy don't carry accesseries for older mac products.

[@Dyl_Apple]

4:53 and your wish came true...

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

I have two iBook G4s at the moment, both from 2003: 1.07Ghz and 800Mhz... Still more structurally advanced than a new Windows laptop.

[@sidharthchand8072]

Bull shot can't upgrade memory or browsers they just phased out xp

[@NicksLocker]

I have to disagree with that one, but iBooks are definitely very advanced structurally. They're so meticulously put together physically and are still very stable computers that will do most of your everyday things with no problem.

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

sidharth chand You can upgrade the memory; I have no idea what you are even talking about. You can also use alternative browsers. I am not talking about the operating system when I say that my 2003 iBooks G4s are way more structurally advanced than a middle-aged Windows laptop. And the only reason why XP lasted so long was: It took a long time to first develope Vista, so people got used to XP more and more, but then Vista sucked so bad that "downgrading" to XP was the norm and it didn't even count as being an OS behind Vista. Then Win 7 came out and since Vista was trash, it was like XP was only one OS behind, which isn't so bad. Then Windows 8 came out and people hated it, so AGAIN it was like XP was only one OS behind. The iBook G4 and its OS are not as compatible because the PowerPC architecture stopped being supported by Apple, and its operating system wasn't like XP, which survived a long time just because Vista sucked and Windows 8 wasn't too popular. The latest OSs you can run on the iBook are Tiger and Leopard, and they are still more advanced and pleasurable to use than Windows 7; it's just that Leopard is 7 years old and didn't have the luck that XP had. Apple doesn't take forever to make an OS and then have it suck, fix it, then break it again. I can definitely doubt the intellgence of Windows users here. How can you not realize why XP lasted so long? It's not as if it was just THAT good.

[@asdfasdf4345artsdfg]

Nick Dellorto The biggest thing is that the iBook is clean. Most Windows laptops today are still chunky and lumpy and not symmetrical. Some still use cheap plastic latches, while the iBook introduced their special magnetic ones in 2001/2002. There are just so many design features that are ahead of their time. The early 2000s PowerBooks also had illuminated keyboards, but that is starting to appear on Windows laptops today. It's all hard to explain, but you know what I mean.

[@TheSpike3000]

maccollectorZ (Commenting Account) Nothing more true than that! Microsoft releases an OS after the months upon years of waiting, then even when it comes out it's basically unfinished and needs work, so people downgrade to the last OS, and more than likely that one has the same problems too. It's just a mess.

[@xX420MCplayerXx]

Hey, is the iBook g4 good for getting the hang of Mac is x? Because I have never used mac os x before and, I have never used an iBook g4. If it is I will buy one for $4.75. I can pay you directly if you like. Because I live in Texas too.

[@saulocpp]

Does anyone know how some benchmarks (Photoshop, for example) were biased towards G3/G4 back in the day? I heard and read a lot about it.

[@Ferrichrome]

"In 720p high definition" Yep, 2010.

[@samuelrasquinha6712]

2018??

[@stiffdanny]

hey, running an ibook g4, 10.5.8, need help to find nes emulator that works for that. any help will be greatly appreciated!

[@zachberg4675]

what kind of hard drive interface connector do they use sata or ide?