Is it permissible to attend music 🎶 classes in school if they are mandatory?

[@iqrahFark90]

Alhamdulillah i choose Madinah to raise my kids no such challenges Alhamdulillah

[@Iamstrangetothisworld]

Ya ukhti you are so lucky to be live in Madina it's my dream to live in Madina may Allah Azzawajal accept my this wish Ameen Ya Rabil Alameen Asslamu Aliakum Warahmatullah hi wabarkataho

[@bingbong-m5r]

@@IamstrangetothisworldAsalamu Alaikum there is no such thing as luck we don’t say that.rather it is the qadr of Allah SWT

[@Iamstrangetothisworld]

@@bingbong-m5r JazakAllah Akhi I also just believe in Allah Azzawajal qadr there is no such thing like luck in islam

[@bingbong-m5r]

@@Iamstrangetothisworld ❤️

[@iqrahFark90]

@@Iamstrangetothisworldbrother its on you which path you choose Alhamdulillah for islam Makkah and madinah is the best city on the face of earth

[@Gweenpool]

Hello sir, I’m from Bangladesh and recently in our country, there has been so many issues where the oppressing leaders are torturing our students. Our prime minister and the team is using methods to stop our protest against the wrong government laws. Our students are unsafe and being killed and no protection is here as the police and every armed man who are supposed to defend us are using their power against us. Many Students have been killed brutally and arrested with stupid reasons. Please pray for our country and for our justice. #savebangladesh #save_bangladeshi_students

[@F2bro-i4g]

Alhamdulillah we don't have a music class

[@SaenSay]

Alhamdulillah I don't allow my children I replaced it with sports

[@afrinatanwi6907]

Gud idea🌹

[@vorqoo]

Good for you! For me I had no choice but to take music lesson in primary and secondary school as there is no such thing as replacing it with other subjects (just for like an hour per week) but I wasn't ever interested in that subject. My friend thought I was weird as I hated music lessons and music in general but who cares.

[@KhanKhan-xl1rf]

Alhamdulillah ill never have children

[@vorqoo]

@@KhanKhan-xl1rf how come?

[@spiderman3309]

​@@KhanKhan-xl1rfbro what??😂

[@didyouprayyour5prayers996]

Don’t forget to say: Al Hamdolillah

[@OMappingneditz1]

I used to attend music classes. Alhamdullilah, in this highschool you get to choose between either taking a music class or art (drawing class). I was on music before, now switched to art. I'm just avoiding drawing humans and animals.

[@samisky35]

@@OMappingneditz1 bende aynı durumu yaşıyorum. Arkadaşımın söylediğine göre bizim hoca sadece manzara falan çizdiriyormuş o yüzden bende bu sene resmi seçtim. Allah yardımcımız olsun.

[@OMappingneditz1]

@@samisky35 Amin sizin de. Bizim hoca istediğimizi çizdiriyor

[@CFAR921]

Sheikh Allaah bless you Aameen

[@chaser8652]

the school said they asked a imam and he said we are allowed, i dont understand this nonsense

[@thaknobodi]

I took a few years of marching band as a youth (wasnt muslim at the time) but hated it. Even being at football games didnt make sense to me.

[@suzan_sheikh]

In my childhood we also had music class once a week, but they didn't use instruments there they just tought us Sa Re Ga Ma thing

[@HellYT9263]

Then its maybe Choir class not music

[@infinite3685]

we also had the same, but we had a harmonium. I was dumb back then, did not knew music was haram.

[@OMappingneditz1]

​@@infinite3685Ignorant*, not dumb 😊 I being raised in this secular country had no idea that music could be haram before either.

[@ibrahim_-_-_]

yea BS, it was mandatory for me too but i either skipped it or went in a separate room, it’s not hard if you’re doing it for the sake of allah why have you people lost faith in allah? you think you’ll do something for his sake or give something up for his sake and he won’t replace it with something better? Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah says: 'I am just as My slave thinks I am, (i.e. I am able to do for him what he thinks I can do for him) and I am with him if He remembers Me. If he remembers Me in himself, I too, remember him in Myself; and if he remembers Me in a group of people, I remember him in a group that is better than they; and if he comes one span nearer to Me, I go one cubit nearer to him; and if he comes one cubit nearer to Me, I go a distance of two outstretched arms nearer to him; and if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running.' " -Bukhari 7405 (Hadith Qudsi)

[@lightraingaming6922]

Huzur you said it is permissible to draw living things if it doesn't have it's chest or head. So is it permissible to draw the head with full facial future without drawing the body. Because it follows the rules you said

[@jimmytwister8141]

Check other schools brother

[@taranamahbuba8234]

Most of the school in west have music mandatory subjects

[@PancakeRights]

​@@taranamahbuba8234 As they should. Listen mate, I am a Muslim too. When I did my own research about Islam, it fell apart. Islam disallows music which research proves does wonders for your mental health but allows rape sex slaves and says to kill the Jews, LGBT and apostates? What kind of a religion of peace is this? Add up the numbers and it doesn't make sense. Assim is an extreme scholar with no respect for women or western law. If you live in the west, everybody has rights and your children have a right to an education and they can call the police and social services against you, regardless of your backwards 7th century views. Live in the west, follow the law. Schools shouldn't have to change their curriculum just because of some bigoted extremist parents who can't tolerate their kids having respectable views and getting a well rounded education! Human rights exist for everyone, even those who disagree with Islam! Deal with it!

[@vorqoo]

​@@taranamahbuba8234yup there's usually no choice. Just attend the lesson but everything goes one ear in and the other ear out. We try to distract ourselves as much as possible to not get influenced. Unless it is beneficial like breathing techniques and etc.

[@ibrahim_-_-_]

@@vorqooyea BS, it was mandatory for me too but i either skipped it or went in a separate room, it’s not hard if you’re doing it for the sake of allah why have you people lost faith in allah? you think you’ll do something for his sake or give something up for his sake and he won’t replace it with something better? Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Allah says: 'I am just as My slave thinks I am, (i.e. I am able to do for him what he thinks I can do for him) and I am with him if He remembers Me. If he remembers Me in himself, I too, remember him in Myself; and if he remembers Me in a group of people, I remember him in a group that is better than they; and if he comes one span nearer to Me, I go one cubit nearer to him; and if he comes one cubit nearer to Me, I go a distance of two outstretched arms nearer to him; and if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running.' " -Bukhari 7405 (Hadith Qudsi)

[@vorqoo]

@@ibrahim_-_-_ its not possible to do so in my country as it constitutes as truancy.

[@hmmmahroof3602]

In India late Mohamed Rafi is an ever respected singer. Late Nawshad ali is an ever respected music composer.

[@PancakeRights]

All singers are respected and help us enjoy and de-stress from life.

[@tracywillow5359]

Seriously, what is wrong with you guys? I’m so serious.

[@KhanKhan-xl1rf]

I love listening to music

[@fssouu]

Fear Allaah!

[@syedtaufeeqhaider4042]

Sir according to Imam al Ghazali Music is not haram so what's your thoughts on this?

[@Iamstrangetothisworld]

Sahih al-Bukhari 5590 Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

[@rainyy2629]

My Brother Do Not be So Blind. Our Beloved Prophet Told Us That it was haram It Was Narrated On Sahih Al Bukhari 5590 That It was Not Permissible. The Four School Of Thoughts Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, and Hanbali. All Agreed The Fact That Music Is haram even if they didn't The Statement of the prophet Cleary Contradicts them. Just To Rub it in The school of Thoughts Also Agreed that Sahih al Bukhari Has No Weak Or False Hadiths in it.

[@bingbong-m5r]

Music is absolutely haram there’s evidence from Quran and Hadith that tell us the impermissiblity of music and its the consensus with the ulama and 4 madahib music is totally haram. We can’t fatwa shop.

[@Iamstrangetothisworld]

@@syedtaufeeqhaider4042 Sahih al-Bukhari 5590 Narrated Abu 'Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash'ari: that he heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, 'Return to us tomorrow.' Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection."

[@zakyelmourabit6380]

@@rainyy2629the prophet did music at his wedding

[@MeMyFamily1]

Music is not haram in Islam. I know majority say is it haram but they don't have an evidence to prove. What they use is the weak hadith of Sahih al Bukhari 5590. Also, I remember Shaykh Assim said in one of his videos that music is haram and hadith is authentic and in another video when he was asked about one of the narrators of the same Hadith, he said he doesn't know anything about that narrator. He also said he doesn't even know if that person is the narrator of the haidth or not. Now imagine, he claims that the hadith of Bukhari 5590 is authentic but he doesn't know about the narrators of the same hadith. Then how come he says it is authentic. I tell you because majority has said, because Shaykh Albani has said. And for many muslims today, Shaykh Albani is like a Prophet meaning many muslims take the hadith grading of Shaykh Albani like the wordings of Prophet. Shaykh should not say this hadith is authentic or this one is weak unless he has done his own research.

[@iconic410]

It's "muallaq" not weak. Sheikh Assim also says in another video to the people who say "Who is Sheikh al Albani to grade hadiths?": "Who are you?", as in who are you compared to this scholar, one of the greats of the 20th century. Brother, there is ijma (scholarly consensus) that all music instruments are haram, so for you to think you know better than all the scholars over 1400 years; this is pure arrogance and ignorance. I suggest you repent for slandering Sheikh Assim and Sheikh al-Albani and delete this comment. Here is also some evidence regarding why music is haram, taken from the website, islamqa info: Allah says in Surah Luqman (interpretation of the meaning): “And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing) to mislead (men) from the path of Allah…” [Luqman 31:6] The scholar of the ummah, Ibn 'Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: this means singing . Mujahid (may Allah have mercy on him) said: this means playing the drum (tabl). (Tafsir al-Tabari, 21/40) Al-Hasan al-Basri (may Allah have mercy on him) said: this ayah was revealed concerning singing and musical instruments (lit. woodwind instruments). (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 3/451) The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Among my ummah there will certainly be people who permit zina, silk, alcohol and musical instruments…” (Narrated by al-Bukhari ta’liqan, no. 5590; narrated as mawsul by al-Tabarani and al-Bayhaqi. See al-Silsilah al-Sahihah by al-Albani, 91) Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This is a sahih hadith narrated by al-Bukhari in his Saheeh, where he quoted it as evidence and stated that it is mu’allaq and majzum. He said: Chapter on what was narrated concerning those who permit alcohol and call it by another name. This hadith indicates in two ways that musical instruments and enjoyment of listening to music are haram. The first is the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “[they] permit” which clearly indicates that the things mentioned, including musical instruments, are haram according to shari’ah, but those people will permit them. The second is the fact that musical instruments are mentioned alongside things which are definitely known to be haram, i.e., zina and alcohol: if they (musical instruments) were not haram, why would they be mentioned alongside these things? (adapted from al-Silsilah al-Sahihah by al-Albani, 1/140-141) Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) (may Allah have mercy on him) said: This hadith indicates that ma’azif are haram, and ma’azif means musical instruments according to the scholars of (Arabic) language. This word includes all such instruments. (al-Majmu’, 11/535).

[@MeMyFamily1]

​@@iconic410the hadith is weak. Here are the reasons. Hisham bin Ammar is a weak narrator. Another weak narrator is Attiya bin Qays. Two weak narrators in a single hadith. One is sufficient to declare a hadith weak. Those who say it is authentic mainly focus on mullaq thing. They try their best to prove it is connected not disconnected. Like I read Shaykh Albani's complete research on this topic and there he has tried his best to prove that it is connected. He didn't prove that all the narrators are authentic. Also, Islamqa arguments are weak. Quranic ayah doesn't mention anything about music.