Oxford Mathematician DESTROYS Atheism In Less Than 15 Minutes (BRILLIANT!)

[@TotalSkeptic]

I’ve watched this video a few times, and while John Lennox makes some interesting points, I don’t think the title matches what’s in the video. He doesn’t actually "destroy" atheism or prove that God exists. Instead, Lennox talks about why he believes in God and argues that faith can go hand-in-hand with science. The title seems like it’s just there to grab attention. If you’re expecting solid proof against atheism, you might not find it here. But the video is still worth watching if you want to hear a thoughtful take on how science and belief in God can work together.

[@GitauSimon]

I hate it but have to understand why they titled the video like that. Works great for the algorithm despite being somewhat BS

[@TotalSkeptic]

@@GitauSimon LOL, I think 'clickbait' is the word we're looking for.

[@robertrlkatz6890]

God destoys Atheist, anyone with common sense can see that everything was created because something has never come from nothing. Give me evidence that you have seen something in your lifetime that came from nothing. Want evidence of creation look at anything you can see and it had to be made because it had a beginning.

[@TotalSkeptic]

@@robertrlkatz6890 I see where you’re coming from, but sometimes “common sense” can miss the bigger picture. The idea that “something has never come from nothing” is a longstanding philosophical debate, but it’s important to remember that just because we don’t fully understand the origins of the universe, that doesn’t automatically prove the existence of a divine creator. This is an example of an argument from ignorance-concluding that God must exist simply because we lack a complete explanation for how the universe began. Also, when you say “God destroys atheism,” it’s worth asking-how exactly is that happening? As an atheist, I’m still here in the discussion, so it seems like the “destruction” hasn’t exactly taken place. My main point was just that the video’s title doesn’t match what John Lennox actually talks about. I think it’s valuable for all of us to stay open to different perspectives and not just rely on what seems obvious at first glance.

[@shabbyroadscholar]

The proof is rational deduction not empirical evidence. Life the MBR that he mentioned. That demands an explanation. As Aquinas and Al Ghazali pointed out... Everything that begins has a beginner.

[@mikeandvaleriestephens5549]

He does not attack atheists or even atheism but rather gives a solid basis for his faith as a scientist. I appreciate the respectful but unapologetic approach.

[@BlackSun3Tube]

It's not a solid base. Just confirmation bias. Faith = ignorance sacralization.

[@circusserpent9466]

So, God made himself from nothing, then made something, and everything originated from nothing. If you believe God as the most powerful and intelligent being came from nothing, then you believe in evolution.

[@mariogreco729]

@@circusserpent9466 Must God come from something?

[@circusserpent9466]

@@mariogreco729 If God comes from nothing, he IS Nothing

[@peterripson]

He provides no basis and no evidence. He asserts that A, he sees a question that no one can answer (what came before the big bang) and then B, he inserts God as the answer. That's not evidence but like most people of faith, he states that Atheists believe "something came from nothing" is an obtuse mischaracterization that apologists foolishly use as some kind of "proof".

[@あれくす]

US trained physician. I too am both a scientist and a christian.

[@BenjiBear]

Many people with Science degrees are also members of churches. Many are non-religious. The psychology of belief is somewhat different to logical proofs. Aristotle suggested humans often lack the patience or skills to follow logical proofs but respond more to emotional or simplistic arguments. I personally like to apply science to discover the true nature of things including any godlike entities that may exist. People have many ideas about what God may be like but these ideas often differ. Can anyone be sure that the God they perceive is any more valid than the different ideas of God others are equally certain about. Science likewise can point to different ideas about the personality of God or nature of things. Popper's Scientific Method assumes that any ideas are conjectures we can amend with future evidence. As to the reality of any particular gods described in religious texts, there is simply not enough evidence to know such beings are real.

[@Element-tu8jw]

There are alot of doctors that believe in the duality of existence. Some doctors will say that consciousness is just synapsis in the brain but there isn't any peer approved papers to back it up. There is in fact a peer approved book that explains consciousness. The Bible

[@dejanfun3251]

@@Element-tu8jw subconsciousness*. It's that voice in your head that people fear because it brings them responsibility and punishment about some thing that they have done and they just refuse to accept that truth because, we have science and morality is just a part of evolution, so people can just go around willlie nillie doing bad things and then taking medication to sleep better. Make it make sense, bud. Subconsciousness is the word you are looking for.

[@retiredatforty]

John Lennox always radiates peace. Richard Dawkins never looks like he has a moment of it.

[@DnSchel]

ignorance is bliss...

[@SaerdnaOoOoo]

If one of Hamas agents turn cloaks and advocate for peace. While all the others of the cult planterrorist attacks. And you have a debate. Will you let the turn cloak disarm you for the sake of a futile attempt to make peace? I know it is a extreme analogy but religion isn't what the world need in large. And debates are for poeple who actually want to know. That is the main thing. Perhaps there should be better understanding and climate between belivers and unbelievers. But that is not the most important thing. And it is harder to achive than that-

[@buddyhek]

People say I “radiate” peace, and I don’t need religion to be that way. Just because 1 or 1 million believe means absolutely nothing, only to them.

[@SaerdnaOoOoo]

@@buddyhek did they delete my comment?

[@RobA_Oz]

This is an eloquent and forceful defence of one man’s belief in a deity. It proves nothing, other than he can cite some great minds who share his belief. That’s fine, but if anyone thinks this is proof of anything, then they’re indulging in wishful thinking.

[@jeangatti9384]

When asked if he believed in God, Einstein answered : "tell me what is your idea of God, then I'll tell you if I believe that" 😊

[@bartholomewlyons]

And what is the idea of god?

[@jeangatti9384]

@@bartholomewlyons well I guess everyone has his own idea ... some have no idea at all When asked if he believed in God, Carl Jung answered; "I do not believe, I know" I would rather agree with Jung, though I would not say "I know" because it is rather arrogant, and it is not exactly a "knowledge". I would rather say "I witness His presence"

[@tcrown3333]

@@jeangatti9384 It certainly sounds grander!

[@kandiitewa4972]

​@@jeangatti9384 wow👌

[@SMMore-bf4yi]

Einstein, exactly

[@roberthoward8578]

It's easier to defend the truth than to defend a lie

[@holycat8312]

Noooooo.

[@donjindra]

Exactly. And that's why this man's speech fails.

[@krookedarrow9869]

Seems as though he's defending the truth pretty easily...!

[@aptwo916]

@@krookedarrow9869 What truth? lol

[@paulmartin8100]

@@krookedarrow9869sure he gives us a tour of how he views his chosen ideology but he doesn’t defend it, go into any depth, deal with any contrary views. It’s just a list of claims. Claims which need evidence. It’s not at all compelling or persuasive.

[@serberious]

The problem is....belief in something is not nor ever has been nor ever will be taken as proof or evidence. One may believe what one chooses but believing is NOT proof !

[@silverlining1613]

All those who must have tangible proof but wont accept anything even if its offered. It just means that person wont believe no matter what. Im always curious as to why those people hang out in these types of videos.

[@rccgkingdombreeds]

Okay Sir/Ma Someday, you'll get a proof, and I hope it won't get too late!

[@edgan1]

Romans 9 provides one answer, but most are not prepared to face that truth. If your view is restricted to just one subspace, there is no way to see the whole space no matter how hard you try.

[@MiNd-_-sAp-_-1O1]

Yes, a belief does not have to be true to be effective.

[@MiNd-_-sAp-_-1O1]

I agree! At last count, I 'believe', there are approximately 4,200 worldwide religions to choose, or not to choose, from...and each with, or without, its own higher authority(ies). A thought to ponder: put 100 scientists to work on a problem, and yes they may all start out with different hypotheses and discover, interpret, and reinterpret facts in different ways along the way, but they eventually come to a consensus on an answer, and the answer will be one that we can effectively use - because of the evidence that they can test and verify themselves. Put 100 theologians to work on a question by using faith, and although they may all start out from the same religious perspective, you will end up with at least 100 denominations, factions (a blend of fact and fiction), and even new religions (all with their own denominations and factions), and there will be no objective, reliable way to decide between them. That, more or less, leaves us, with or without, two more choices; Science's evidence without certainty, and/or religion's certainty without evidence! Peace...

[@pamelajackson7210]

Bravo to John Lennox, who is such a brilliant scientific mathematician, yet is able to speak so powerfully and assuredly without a doubt about true belief in God!🖐🏽

[@kevinod771]

John Lennox had a nice debate with Christopher Hitchens! That’s worth the watch!!

[@joetraxel7822]

Christopher was amazing with his knowledge and speaking ability. I can't imagine him losing a debate in which he argues a point in which he believes. Thanks for the heads up.

[@gerardmeij-n1b]

Lennox keeps on creating a universe out of nothing it is not nothing but a singularity such as found in a blackhole which is not properly understood but could well be the gateway to others universes and explain the creation of our universe

[@Element-tu8jw]

Reading Chesterton made me realize Im not as intelligent as I thought I was. Accept your lot

[@Richard-darixdax]

John is a treasure to humanity.😊

[@Fr4Gz36]

this man is fabulous...we need more of these MEN....GREATTTTT

[@TheSidewalk7]

Wow that was courage to present one's faith in front of those people. That was absolutely refreshing to hear and see Glory to God!

[@dannydejongh9408]

Some facts about religions… There are round 4900 official religions in the world. They worship round 6000 gods. All claim…many with scripture…that the god they worship is the only right one. PROOF you religion and hod is the right one. And proof means more then just one book and hearsay stories. No proof the others are wrong. Till then… You believe in one god less then an atheïst. You don’t believe in 4899 gods We not in 4900 Good luck

[@beanapprentice1687]

really? Where is God? Can you prove it with evidence? Because all that Lennox said is that we don't understand the universe.

[@Ammeo]

Belief in god and religion and heaven and hell should be considered a mental illness

[@runelund5600]

@@Ammeo It does, by people with mental illness. ❤

[@lukkiecharm]

@@beanapprentice1687 Faith in anything will lead to a debate. No one can actually prove God until we all see God. No one can prove God does Not exist as well. In the mean time it is simply a person's belief and these beliefs will have their own reasons. Until then it is faith. Faith my husband will not cheat. Faith my kids will grow to be successful. Faith my shoes will last long enough to make it through the day.

[@berniegarcia717]

THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE!!!

[@blueduck5589]

Free from what?

[@billiswillis8293]

@@blueduck5589 From the one and only enslaving factor: Stolidity.

[@Mcfreddo]

And that is through science and knowledge gained. Evolution through natural selection. ('Knowledge' doesn't have faith anywhere near it; not even at far distance. How could it? Faith is the dark. The dark is the absence of light. The dark is not a thing of existence.

[@billiswillis8293]

@@Mcfreddo Faith, from Latin fides "trust, confidence". Some people have faith in amulets, many people have faith in science.

[@peterbrown2882]

@@billiswillis8293 The true meaning of "faith" is "belief", so stop using it in the name of religion. One has to believe in something, no matter what that something might be. And this has nothing to do with religion.

[@TheAndrew3032]

A bad title, but an excellent talk. Dr. Leenox provided arguments against atheism but in a respectful way. He is pointing to the signs of intelligent design, he is hinting at the profound literary nature of scripture, not it's profound literalism. He is hinting at the creation account not being a literal account of *how* the universe was created, but the literary *home* story of why the creator made it and our relationship to him. He is asking great questions and encouraging us the listener student to be curious and go in search of answers. In doing so you will likely discover that God was pursuing and discovering you, not you who was searching out God. Fabulous and will listen again.

[@gowdsake7103]

He did not present a single position that was accurate demonstrateable but assertions and strawmen

[@lukkiecharm]

@@gowdsake7103 Watch again and listen as well. You will see his point.

[@rogerreid5096]

A wonderful dissertation of why God exists and everything points to God as the creator.

[@arnauvilardebo]

You can see in this video how an oxford mathematician does'nt destroy atheism at all.

[@dulls8475]

Atheism is alive and well as is obvious by your post. Seek the Lord while you can....

[@scomo532]

Correct, he adroitly sidelines it.

[@ivancauchi860]

@@dulls8475 instead of seeking the lord, why doesn't the lord just show himself up and tell us he is god? That shouldn't be a big deal for a god. That's the only way atheism will vanish once and for all. But since your god (like every other god of every religion) always rely on people to speak for him, he is just as fictional as Harry Potter, therefore atheism remains.

[@dulls8475]

@@ivancauchi860 He did. He is called Jesus Christ. He also made a universe so complex that it points to God with every breath you take.

[@ivancauchi860]

@@dulls8475 There are ridiculously about 5000 man made religions each one of them claims it's god is the one true, what makes you think your god stands out from the others?

[@mgmartin51]

So, basically, he believes because others believed?

[@davidspriggs1945]

Basically he believes the TRUTH

[@cherisebaldeo4465]

I think he is weighing the logic of what others believe, and tests it against atheism, and chooses a rational conclusion.

[@thomasfisher5742]

yes...quotes some of his LUMINARIES, to support his own beliefs

[@charlesc.9012]

Before we discovered genetics, we thought eugenics was the way forward, and that humans may not have a common ancestor. We later discovered after the holocaust that we indeed had a common ancestry, just as the Bible was going on about for a thousand years. Before we discovered quantum physics, atoms behaved the same way, we just couldn't describe it. In the same way, science is only a process of discovery, precisely because the truth is still hidden. However, ignoring the word has always led to disaster, which means it is the truth. We do not believe without being brought in by God, that is His work, not our own.

[@markappert]

How about listening to it again?

[@Ursusarctoshorribilis]

Atheism stands undestroyed. Wow.

[@LucasPatutas]

So do we christians.

[@Ursusarctoshorribilis]

@@LucasPatutas you are part of the end of Xtianity

[@markgilbandojo3133]

Proof surrounds us daily, yet we often dismiss the divine presence in creation. Humanity, in its pursuit of knowledge, has delved deep, but often loses sight of the bigger picture.

[@gijsmeeusen2335]

Why are people so afraid to say, 'I don't know what caused this.' May it be life, suffering, happiness, fairness, unhappiness. In the chain of possible answers to the question why they are what they are, there is always a last why-question, to which the answer is 'We don't know'. Religion tries to close that line with the belief in God as an ultimate answer. Christians do not know that there is a God; they believe it. Atheists do not know that there is nothing after death; they believe it. I embrace the thought that the fact that you can ask a question does not mean there is an answer.

[@LouGheeTrebuchetLaunch]

.. SO .. ''NARFLE THE GARTHOK'' .. ''M'KAY'' ?

[@HerbertRatidzaiMaambira]

I am a Christian and I know there is God. Not from reading but from an encounter

[@RaySanders-vp2ql]

@@HerbertRatidzaiMaambira Would you introduce me to your god. That would make me believe especially if your god then made all amputees regrow their limbs.

[@jobloggs8021]

​@@HerbertRatidzaiMaambira. Did you ask god why is there so much suffering in the world?

[@garrymontgomery2033]

Only because it's easier to attribute anything they don't understand to being the work of a supernatural entity. They look in awe at the Universe and gasp, "God must have made all of this." Yet they cannot conceive that the Biblical God was created by Man to keep other men in check; that God needed to be a fiece God so the preist could shout, "Behave or God will come for you!" and when there was thunder and lighning, he could shout, "God is angry with you!" The god they worship so fervently is actually the Nature they so mindlessly destroy.

[@DrPalsgraf]

_"But people are now so desperate to show that the universe created itself from nothing ...."_ (at 2:50). Do atheists believe the universe created itself from nothing? Or do they claim that we don't know what the universe was created from? It's okay to say, "We don't know that (yet)." We don't need to make up a supernatural explanation for things we don't yet understand. It's like all the mythologies created to explain why the Sun and Moon travel across the sky.

[@ChristineHannahs]

Mankind is not yet advanced enough to understand what God actually is.

[@Diego-ps7eq]

Yeah as an atheist I think most of us just believe that we don't know what or when the universe existed

[@beanapprentice1687]

@@ChristineHannahs correction: we are not advanced enough to know whether or not there is a god.

[@milansvancara]

@@ChristineHannahs well it's a word we created so it means whatever we make it to

[@dfwherbie8814]

Prior to the Big Bang they believed it was eternal lol but to answer your question - yes, they do believe that. They won’t explicitly say it, but this is what you get from what they believe after they explain it

[@JimLogger-jo9ck]

Believing in God will be as difficult as you want it to be, but as easy as you need it to be.

[@sparrowprince3432]

Agreed. Well said.

[@1970Phoenix]

Believing that the Easter Bunny is real will be as difficult as you want it to be, but as easy as you need it to be. Surely you can see that makes no sense. Belief in a proposition is only rational if it is evidentially justified.

[@Olivier-m9k]

@@1970Phoenix Belief does not, by definition, need proof. In fact, belief is characterised by not HAVING any proof. Propositions and beliefs do not go hand in hand, since propositions require a judgement, which requires evidence, something the word 'belief' does not refer to.

[@sherriepalmer2010]

Belief is better said "Trust". Like all relationships, it's pride that destroys relationship, whereas Trusting builds. Pride prefers itself, it's own intelligence, it's own will. Humility with love prefers others.

[@1970Phoenix]

@Olivier-m9k A person is rationally justified in believing something if there is sufficient evidentary support. They can of course still believe something without sufficient evidentary support, but this is irrational and not justified.

[@roy1793]

I salute you sir 🙏 praise to Lord Jesus

[@squib311]

If beliefs were automatically facts, everybody would be golden.

[@dulls8475]

So what facts do you have for the universe beginning?

[@etiennedevignolles7538]

Yes, that is where Dawkins really fails, his beliefs aren't facts.

[@titaniumspecial4207]

Romans 10:9

[@LGpi314]

@@dulls8475 All those are much more probable than your fictional charedter god. Here is a short list of major theories about the origin of the universe: 1. *Big Bang Theory* : The universe began as a singularity and has been expanding ever since. 2. *Steady State Theory* : The universe is eternal and unchanging, with continuous creation of matter. 3. *Oscillating Universe Theory* : The universe undergoes infinite cycles of expansion and contraction. 4. *Inflation Theory* : A rapid expansion occurred immediately after the Big Bang, smoothing and flattening the universe. 5. *Multiverse Theory* : Our universe is one of many universes that exist simultaneously.

[@LGpi314]

@@Cosmogonal_Hierogamy " ill take experiences " Delusional ones???? "then i had NDE and died after surgery june 4 1994" LMAO. What a bunch of bullcrap. Do Muslims see jesus in their NDEs? LMAO

[@gregorymorehart9142]

God has given us free will. Choose this day whom you will serve. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord . And by chance that I worship God and in the end find out he doesn't exist, then what have I lost ? Nothing. However, if I don't believe and he does exists and then I will have lost everything even my very soul .

[@simonehanna8046]

And there it is…choice. Believe, don’t believe. He gave you the option.

[@asterixx6878]

Are you afraid of 'god'?

[@rafaelmuradyan2477]

I assure you there is God and in heaven the King is our Lord Jesus Christ. You are on the right path, don’t doubt, but be confident and keep your faith all the way . The overcomers will sit with our Lord Jesus Christ on His table . Jesus Christ bless you and your household .

[@otapi]

You risk to believe in the wrong God. What if the only true god is Baal? Or Allah? Or Zeus? Or Thor? You would still happen to go to some kind of hell if you choose the an other god than the 'true' one. Also, does it fit to your ethics to follow and worship someone who threathents you with pain and suffer?

[@grassprietje9500]

@otapi Iedereen voelt toch wel aan dat "heb je naaste lief als jezelf "de hoogste moraal is. Dit is de belangrijkste regel hoe je met de ander om moet gaan volgens de bijbel. De andere godsdiensten die ik ken hebben dit niet als belangrijkste regel. Bovendien had deze God ook de grootste liefde door te sterven voor de mensen om zo de vloek van de zonde te verbreken. Welke God doet nou zoiets? Dit verzint geen mens.

[@Marty_AU]

He doesn’t destroy atheism at all. If he did, he would have found good reason why God is rational and atheism is not.

[@doyouknoedawae]

Because without God there is no basis for ANY of the following: 1: Self Value 2: Morality 3: Love 4:Consciousness 5: Rationality. And that's 5 of many. Too flawed on a philosophical level, and this is why Theism is more logical. Because then we have someone who is able to define the rules because he KNOWS what is good. Not what he THINKS or OPINIONATES to be good. Because while majority would opinionate that Murder is wrong, if it changed the other way, there would be no basis to say they WERE wrong. Just useless opinions used for useless things in an existential existence. Which is why I am convinced, there is a god. It's up to you to decide who it is, and a good place to start is the gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. And read each chapter twice, understand what you're reading and make a logical choice based off that. Have a blessed day!

[@doyouknoedawae]

I would explain the others but I will give others a maximum of 2 weeks to respond with their explanations for the Self value, love, and consciousness part. I already did Morality and Rationality.

[@vcracing]

He did explain why atheism is not rational

[@unpopularopinions9076]

Did you listen at all?

[@Savagemode473]

@@vcracinghow exactly. He only asserted that atheism is irrational. He did not prove it.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

GOD is Everywhere 🌌✨

[@oneoff968]

Honestly, this isn't a great talk. Most of this speech boils down to "I think God is the best explanation for some things that don't have definite explanations". That's not evidence or a proof of God. In fact, that's just just the God of the Gaps. I was expecting something NEW based on the title. There was nothing new in this video. But lets ask how he even knows about God? Some human told him. Belief in God is the worlds longest and oldest game of telephone. And of course, the ultimate irony here is that he criticizes the big bang theory as recursive ("X therefore X") and so not a good theory. This criticism of X therefore X is painfully ironic since the major theme of everything he says is exactly X therefore X Look at what he really says: "1. If things are complicated, God must be the reason. 2. Some things are complicated. 3. therefore, god exists." That's literally X therefore X. This is 16 minutes of a guy saying "I believe the Bible." Okay man, lots of people believe the Bible. He believes it for the same reason as anyone else. He was born into it and/or it resonated with him and/or he is uncomfortable with uncertainty. Doesn't make the Bible correct, doesn't make God real. Saying it for 16 minutes doesn't prove anything. There is nothing insightful here.

[@1970Phoenix]

Why is it that theists who claim that "god is the best explanation" for something don't understand that a proposed being for which there is no evidence of its existance, cannot be the best explanation for anything. Existance is a necessary feature for something even being a potential explanation, let alone the best explanation. Until the existance of some hypoothesised being is reasonably established, that hypothesised being isn't even a candidate to explain anything.

[@oneoff968]

@@1970Phoenix For sure. This video might as well be a 2 second clip of the guy saying "I believe in God." But that wouldn't get a bunch of views.

[@dragoclarke9497]

Thanks, much more eloquently put than my attempt. Guess it will be a long time before we can overcome thousands of years of religion's practice of brainwashing. Theses same believers would scoff at modern day cults while failing to recognise that the "major" religions are just older versions.

[@bluemango8689]

Jesus died and risen again was a historical facts, not just belief. We don't need Bible to prove bible is true

[@reinerruffel263]

Absolutely agree 👍💯

[@mangacomics1601]

He didn't destroy one single thing . He just says X thing exists because of God a bunch of times.

[@tatjana9229]

Lennox does not deatroy, he builds.

[@RYUObake]

So then what's your refutation to what he says?

[@tatjana9229]

@@RYUObake BUt no, I do agree with prof. Lennox on all aspects.

[@RYUObake]

@@tatjana9229 I wasn't replying to you friend. I was replying to other person. No worries.

[@JanWnogu]

@@RYUObake I posted a comment in the main thread in which I list logical fallacies, non-arguments, and manipulations in this video.

[@PaulSmith-wz2xv]

are good Christians allowed to lie ? Lennox has never destroyed any serious non believer.

[@Element-tu8jw]

Due to free will, you can lie if you choose

[@aliciamoore5722]

Are you serious about this question🤔

[@FaithHopeLove59]

I AM A REBORN GODLY FEARING FAITH BELIEVER IN Elohim El Shaddi Adonai Jahovah Jireh Rapha Messiah YHWH Yeshua Jesus God Almighty Holy Spirit Presence led. The Truth is in the Word of God Almighty. Holy Bible. We were created into the Image of God's Holy Pure Love. It's not about a religion but having a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD IN HEAVEN.

[@michaelpatterson5811]

Whatever you say.

[@FaithHopeLove59]

@michaelpatterson5811 John 3:15-21 KJV [15] that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. [16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. [18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [19] And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. [20] For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. [21] But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Matthew 10:33 NKJV [33] But whoever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven. Galatians 6:7-8 AMPC [7] Do not be deceived and deluded and misled; God will not allow Himself to be sneered at (scorned, disdained, or mocked by mere pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside.) [He inevitably deludes himself who attempts to delude God.] For whatever a man sows, that and that only is what he will reap. [8] For he who sows to his own flesh (lower nature, sensuality) will from the flesh reap decay and ruin and destruction, but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. Praying for you Michael Elohim Adonai Jahovah Jireh Yeshua come to you show you Having a personal relationship with God Almighty Yehsuah Amen is very important to have. God doesn't want no one to spend eternal damnation into Hell. God n Jesus Loves You. He has a purpose plan for you into His Kingdom in Heaven Shalom 🌸🙏🏾💗✝️💗🙏🏾🌸

[@Camirritelecul]

Youre just ashaming yourself

[@FaithHopeLove59]

@Camirritelecul actually no I'm saying I'm NOT ASHAME TO SAY THAT YESHUA IS MY LORD N SAVIOR. I will pray for you.. Nothing on earth can or will save you. No materialistical things nothing. Only God repent he will forgive Yeshua who died on the cross for all of our sins known n unknown Amen.. Gods Word is Real n True.

[@VingcamazibukoMqolawukhukhuzwa]

I'm not an atheist. However good presentation of this motivational talk to Christian believers may be, it does not destroy atheism (at any point if the said 15 minutes)

[@marvinc9994]

Indeed - the title was ill-chosen!

[@scomo532]

He sidelined it

[@margotmargot4426]

he clearly logically showed the paradox of atheism saying science pursuit the truth and by coincidence discovering physical and mathematical laws describing perfectly the universe starting from a postition humans are motivated only by survivor instincts then evolution based on surviving cannot produce science pursuing the truth because for each person surviving principles are different. It's a bit subtle and you need a logically trained mind to understand it. Dawkins red in his face during the whole speech got it perfectly and knew he couldn't logically argue that.

[@herroyung857]

@@margotmargot4426 Unfortunately, this is a terrible argument and there is an easy way to logically argue against it. Evolution favors traits that allow species to reproduce and pass down their genes. For us, these traits include pattern recognition, abstract thinking, memory, etc. Our excellent memory and pattern recognition allows us to avoid circumstances of danger that we might have already experienced. Abstract thinking allows us to come up with responses to fictitious scenarios, and those prepare us for real life dangers. Then, these traits bloom over the course of millions of years, culminating with Homo sapiens. You see? It's perfectly reasonable for us to have evolved to rationally analyze the world. It's a trait that is favorable for natural selection. Then, science and pursuing the truth follow naturally from our language, communication, observations, and analysis.

[@1glassMilk]

​@@herroyung857When I think of all the universe I don't think maybe there is a God but I wonder what it all means. Why is it here. How does it work. And to me the answer is that it is magic. We don't know. But we can guess. And I find this more interesting than atheism. Atheism just says there is nothing more. And I like to guess what there is. Certainly because I feel that the power of love and the mind still could need more research.

[@GaryBetz]

Absolutely excellent 👏so grateful that GOD is who He is, gracious, merciful, kind, faithful, loving & just.

[@spendover]

So what about all the evil and torture in the world?

[@TheCriticalPolitician]

You are talking about the being that designed the food chain in which animals have to brutally kill each other to survive? Have you ever seen a falcon eating a prey when it's still alive? Merciful right? Or are you talking about the being that designed bio-robots (yes, us) and then blamed the robots for all the software bugs he himself put in? The being that watches us torturing, killing and raping each other in the most sadistic and horrendous ways and does nothing? And if you are referring to that being, where do gracious, merciful, kind, faithful, loving & just come in exactly?

[@lockedout8643]

If only gods prophets, priests, imams and followers were the same. All I hear is " obey god how I tell you too or you'll live in eternal damnation".

[@paulh1194]

@@spendover I remember a story of a man living in the slums of Brazil and looking intently at the high towering buildings that were beyond his reach. Desiring to be able to live there, than his current abode. His heart began to yearn for things that didn't belong to him..... Well, why this story? Same as an angel that desired what didn't belong to him, the only difference to this story is, he was in the high towers. But still wanted to own all of them. Hence, evil because, because nature is always to have more, even if we have no rights to it.

[@paulh1194]

@@TheCriticalPolitician What we have now, is far beyond the original purpose for the earth, the animals and humans. The bible talks about a paradise earth, that was lost and will be restored. Animals and humans living in peace. Isa 65:25 The wolf and the lamb will feed together, The lion will eat straw just like the bull..... humans rule the earth now, its our inebility to create a peaceful environment for humans and animals alike, that make this world such a bad place. But that will end soon. And to peace there will be no end (Isa 9:7).

[@stevenstasiukiewicz8222]

Believing in God is a personal perspective. People ask me, "how can there be God?". I say "How can there Not be God?" My life experience says, God exists. That's good enough for me. 😊

[@StyevenStyeven]

You british?

[@sakthivelponnusamy9329]

@@StyevenStyeven bruh

[@StyevenStyeven]

@@sakthivelponnusamy9329 What?

[@Steffne2743]

How can there not be pink elephants?

[@Testequip]

Garden fairies also exist because my next-door neighbor believe in them. Hence, it must be true

[@SHIRLEYGiffordCashmanMS]

Good title, and true. For an Atheist to believe that this orderly Creation which we are part of, came by mere chance is a schizoid thought, in my humble opinion. Some individuals simply can't believe that there is a greater Being than themselves. I think that John Lennox very well tore Atheism apart in 15 minutes!

[@NisseOhlsen]

It is called 'belief' for a reason. Otherwise it would be called 'proof'.

[@TheLyricalMouse]

@@NisseOhlsen just like the belief in evolution, am I right? 😁 that's still yet to be proven.

[@NisseOhlsen]

@@TheLyricalMouse it's called a 'theory', not 'belief'. It commands no altars and causes no wars.

[@TheLyricalMouse]

@NisseOhlsen evolution is theory for a reason. Otherwise, it would be called proof.

[@NisseOhlsen]

@@TheLyricalMouse yes. And God is not even a theory. It is mere belief. Like Santa Claus.

[@unpopularopinions9076]

I don’t believe you are being genuine in your listening of this speech. Your preconceived notions have limited your curiosity and dampened your ability to learn.

[@Familjaranxha]

Powerful message with lots of wisdom from above of this man. Yes, him and us the simple people find meaning, purpose, forgiveness, life and hope in God through the resurrected Jesus. May many more find the same by trusting Him! Blessings from Albania!

[@tracycampbell4526]

He presented quotes from believers and inference as though they were evidence. His argument is dripping with “god of the gaps.”

[@StanMainoo]

7:37 Jurgen Habermaus was quoted

[@denisstlaurent4240]

A brilliant man!

[@diddsdaddiddsdad6865]

As a scientist or mathematician

[@denisstlaurent4240]

@@diddsdaddiddsdad6865 both…and a great apologist

[@diddsdaddiddsdad6865]

@@denisstlaurent4240 All he said was the same old arguments that still didn’t get answered. It’s surprising that as a scientist he hasn’t a clue what evidence is.

[@JeffRyman69]

You can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God by logical argument or by observation of the world. You either believe or you don't.

[@raass233]

Circumstantial evidence is evidence.

[@BUNCHAPUNCHISTAKEN]

You cannot DISPROVE something that has never been proven. No god has ever been proven to date. Arguments are not evidence.

[@novakaya]

Yet the evidence is so all ever present and obvious in our own existence and the intricate grandeur and design of the observable world that we are inseparably woven into it can seem non-existence That we exist is literally the only and greatest proof of God available and you are afloat in it and sustained by it with every breath you take

[@BUNCHAPUNCHISTAKEN]

@@novakaya How do our existence prove your particular god? Could be Zeus, or the great spider of Nigerian creation myth, or the ancient mother of native American legends. How us existing and all the wonders whatever is the result of your specific god?

[@JeffRyman69]

@@novakaya The existence of the universe is not evidence for a Creator. You are predisposed to believe in a Creator so that makes sense to you. There are physics hypotheses to explain the universe coming into existence from nothing. That doesn't mean those hypotheses are correct either. So far there is no way to look back before the moment of the big bang to find evidence for either a Creator or the physics hypotheses.

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

Even when I was a borderline atheist , I still believed that God could exist and who’s origin could be explained so easily to even a hardcore atheist scientist; x amounts of time ago, virtually infinite to us, a super advanced civilization could have invented some form of super computer or AI that overtime became infinitely powerful , so powerful it was able to create universes , totally self aware, create heaven and earth, etc. so powerful we couldn’t even begin to comprehend its power . See even a hardcore atheist should be able to believe that’s a possibility

[@paulb2760]

As a hard core scientist, I absolutely agree that this could be true. I’m pretty sure that conflicts with most believer’s concept of a supernatural god. I don’t think they have more advanced science in mind.

[@mysticjen379]

@@paulb2760Oh we do 🙂 Possibly more than atheists.

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

@@paulb2760 the thing is, the entity could be so powerful that it could indeed have become ‘supernatural’. At what point does something become so inconceivably powerful that it bridges the gap that we think of as science vs supernatural

[@user-oy9zy4ds9m]

@@paulb2760 my other personal theory , although I’m sure someone much smarter than me has said it before, but I don’t think I’ve ever read about it anywhere or heard about it but maybe…. Anyway it’s that if the universe is truly infinite, to my mind, that would mean EVERYTHING is real, including God, heaven , hell etc because in a truly infinite universe/multiverse everything has infinite chances of becoming real which means with infinite amount of time it would inevitably become real an infinite amount of times. If this makes sense…. I’m having trouble articulating my point

[@geeeee8268]

So what you saying is that god is an "antient and advanced" civilization. Who created an AI? Well, so is there god for that cavitation? Or it just came to be? An effect without cause. So no matter how far you will try to remove the "creation" event, it still does not explain why "existence" develops from simple to complicated. And if complicated somehow existed before the simple... well, it loses the whole sense isn't it?

[@jonnsmith180]

Where is the destruction? And the fact that he is a mathematician and doesn't understand the difference between probability and possibility is embarrassing. How to destroy a god believer? Simple. Ask for proof. Because in this world those making the claim are beholden to prove it. Its called the scientific method for a reason.

[@lukeheffernan854]

Logic alone proves the need for a Creator. Its an infinite regression to say created things were created by other created things.. there must be an uncreated Creator. (Which we call God)

[@HameedRudd]

His belief does not make sense for anyone part of himself absolutely bulshit he has been fed by bourgeoisie

[@valdeeracruso1734]

@@lukeheffernan854 An uncreated Creator is the 'Source' which has been termed as intelliggent energy, which is similar to A.I. so, can that be the same thing?

[@lukeheffernan854]

Well, I dont think so, since an AI cannot bring something into existence out of nothing. The most powerful stars cannot destroy or create energy, only convert it. AI also has a concrete history of being developed by human beings out of created materials. It did not always exist, and it can one day not exist, unlike the Lord our Creator, who must be eternal.

[@mutsuhanma7807]

she didnt say A.I?

[@richardcopeland724]

Not destroying atheism at all but more of a rallying speech for those that believe in God.

[@relyks8645]

So he "destroys" Atheism, by talking for 15 minutes straight with nobody able to argue against him? Okay.

[@beegs7746]

Watch a debate between Lennox and Richard Dawkins

[@alphamale617]

Maybe you destroy creationism by arguing your head against your dick Einstein

[@gloriousturtlegeneral8575]

John 7:18 18 Whoever speaks on their own does so to gain personal glory, but he who seeks the glory of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him.

[@1970Phoenix]

But John Lennox has made statements that are demonstrably untrue. Wouldn't that prove John 7:18 wrong?

[@leole4126]

I love Prof Lennox. God bless him more and more. He is very humble, therefore he can speak to his colleagues at famous university in UK. Thank you for sharing.

[@JanWnogu]

I agree that he gives his speech in a cultured manner, but it does not make it true.

[@ryry283]

❤❤❤

[@josephwells8699]

"We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts". 2 Peter 1:19

[@Known-unknowns]

Speak properly. You sound like you’re trying to impress me ? You’re not.

[@dareese6778]

Quotes have zero to do with actualities; just guys from a long time ago expressing their agendas.

[@josephwells8699]

@@Known-unknowns I am not trying to impress you, I am just quoting a Bible verse. Prophecy is very important, it authenticates the Bible.

[@berniethebolt3007]

Yes, you are. But please don't. It's enormously insulting to human intelligence. But I guess you know that. That's why you do it.

[@josephwells8699]

@@berniethebolt3007 All I am trying to do is spread the truth of God's word, because it is the only REAL truth available. Evolution is enormously insulting to human intelligence. I am guessing that you are an evolutionist. What is happening in this world today, and it is going to get much worse, the Bible prophesied. We are on the verge of eternity and Jesus is coming back for His people, those who have accepted His death on their behalf. Those who reject Christ will not survive, if the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross does not move people, nothing will. I wish you well.

[@BP-kx2ig]

He has not destroyed Atheism in any way.

[@plrt6794]

Atheism isn’t a religion, it’s lack of belief in a deity. There’s no way to destroy that.

[@theblueadventurer615]

Obviously not, because it still exists, but if you still believe that nothing came from nothing something is wrong with you

[@BP-kx2ig]

@@theblueadventurer615 I do not believe that something came from nothing but God obviously did.

[@plrt6794]

@@theblueadventurer615. Where did your god come from?

[@LucasPatutas]

​@@plrt6794where did your Big bang come from?

[@rickwyant]

Belief isn't knowing.

[@Moonlord8941]

"know" 1 John 2:13 King James Version 13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father. John 10:27-28 King James Version 27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. The ironic thing is, is that atheism is an absence of belief in deity and claim you can't know when it states you can know not only in the bible but on the entire historical fact of Christ's life, death and resurrection held as evidence by the empty tomb (and even the propaganda the Jew's created during the time trying to say the followers of Jesus stole his body) "where's the evidence?" The evidence is there and has been there. its historical fact, people just don't believe in it for their own reasons. As this man eluded to, the evidence of a creator is creation itself. the problem isn't a lack of evidence, its the evil and blindness of people themselves and even if you do receive a sign you "believe" it wise to approach everything with extreme skepticism until you can produce an environment to control it in order to understand it inside and out. Matthew 16:4 King James Version 4 A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas. And he left them, and departed. Romans 1:28-32 King James Version 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. The Holy Word of God ask you to test it yourself. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 King James Version 21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. As a Christian we do not simply "believe" in God. we know him and get to know him more intimately through the Holy spirit and Prayer. Faith is not a blind belief in the existence of God, it is the belief God will keep his promises he made toward us. People love John 3:16 as i do, but the verses after help illuminate why people don't or cannot come to belief in God because it causes severe cognitive dissonance and demands a change that must happen in their lives (being born again) which can only be accomplished by what Jesus did on the Cross and it is evidence in and of itself because you can experience it. it is personalized and is a personal relationship waiting for everyone who enters into "belief" John 3:16-21 King james version 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Atheism demands proof and evidence that is so clearly there and in front of them they cannot see it... why? GOD tells them why 2 Corinthians 4:4 King James Version 4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Yes, Paul wrote 2 Corinthians not God physically but let the bible explain 2 Peter 1:21 King James Version 21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. The Atheist trys to understand everything with a carnal mind 1 Corinthians 2:14 King James Version 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. Romans 8:6-8 King James Version 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. Atheism is untenable. in a way, especially after becoming a believer myself seems closer and closer to a form of insanity. For someone who knows Christ, who has the Holy spirit who dwells within them and has a personal relationship with the Father through Jesus. There is no argument nor debate here. It is a struggle to pull people out of deep water, to rescue them from the fire. To point them to the only person who can not only save you from all the horrible things you've done and the just punishment you will receive for it but also explain to you why the cake was made in the first place and your own role and meaning in everything. if you want to know God. Do not seek any man, idea or philosophy because Colossians 2:8 King James Version 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. But instead 1. Repent 2. Confess 3. Ask for forgiveness, and the Holy spirit Matthew 7:7-8 King James Version 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. and 4. listen and obey the Holy spirit as he guides you into all truth John 16:13 King James Version 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. Atheism seeks truth but will never obtain it because they refuse to go to the "person who made the cake" which is frankly quite apt because considering timothy described unbelievers as 2 Timothy 3:7 King James Version 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Please. read the book for yourself intentionally, purposefully. Take everything you think you know and sieve it through the Bible. Nothing would bring me more joy than to see more souls added to the Kingdom and to have more experience the love of the creator who laid it all out for us but i know deep in my heart that "few there be that find it" Matthew 7:13-14 King James Version 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. i hope that your unbelief will turn into belief and your belief into knowing and all the perceived "contradictions" of the bible are illuminated and John 8:32 King James Version 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. With all humbleness and love.

[@bobbygene8274]

Nor is knowledge the same as knowing-experience "proves" knowledge. But without faith there is nothing. To have faith is to believe in that which you do not know.

[@sg-fr6pf]

This is certainly true. Why then does one turn to the other extreme, namely atheism, i.e. the "knowledge" that there is no God? Agnosticism is the only reasonable position. That this is still a debate in 2024 is mind-boggling beyond words. I don't think theists have properly thought of what would constitute _definitive_ proof of the absence of God, nor have atheists considered what would _definitively_ proof His existence. Hence we have been mired in these dualistic ego games for millenia, and will be for quite some time yet.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

The Heavens ✨ Declare the Glory of GOD 🌌✝️

[@The_Blessed_Cowboy]

What was there before there was something? If something came from nothing, then even nothing was something!

[@olivertulabing7547]

There was God before something.

[@The_Blessed_Cowboy]

@@olivertulabing7547 exactly!

[@Nutterbutter123]

@@The_Blessed_Cowboy I forgot who it was that asked “what does a rock think of? Nothing… and that’s what atheists believe began everything”

[@The_Blessed_Cowboy]

@@Nutterbutter123 it's a hard thing for most people to wrap their heads around when they think what was there before creation? Obviously God! It still drives me a bit crazy trying to even think about it. I try and approach it with child like faith. Perhaps one day God will reveal it to all His people.

[@Nutterbutter123]

@@The_Blessed_Cowboy well, take into account some people who don’t believe in God justify their views with what they perceive as logical reasoning- like they’ve never experienced personal evidence or they can’t wrap their head around what the Bible speaks of or they only go by what’s in front of their eyes. Then there’s those with personal grievance or place their own morals against the very Author such as anger towards a church or church goers, or they cant understand why God allows evil and therefore summarize because He can’t exist, or that science is the only explanation and what it can’t explain now it will one day with enough data, or that they’ve experience horrible things and have anger towards Him. People have their reasons and don’t put the effort in beginning a relationship with Him. And if they do believe in a creator, they have an idea of what a creator is to them and sometimes they don’t like a God that would pour His wrath on His Son, not understanding the necessity of it. Or sometimes it’s as simple as they can’t decide which church is “right”, so they don’t go at all and don’t attempt anything It’s a hard thing for some to grasp, because it would mean a very deep and profound change in lifestyle, drastically for most. Submission requires a lot for the stubborn and stiff-necked. We got to have empathy for them, and when we come across a non believer in love, it’s important to talk to them humbly and question in sincerity why they justify either a disinterest or an anger towards Him. And then work in that direction.

[@meoohmy3231]

Amen!…Our pastor has been known to say, “There are no atheists in a foxhole”…This man of science knows there would be no science if it wasn’t for our Lord and Savior. Thank you, so very much, for this video!🕊️

[@LGpi314]

WHAT?!?!? "Religion began when the first scoundrel met the first fool." Voltaire Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool. Mark Twain Napoleon once said," Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

[@tracymorison7225]

It’s strange to me to use rationality as the basis for a defence of faith. In actual fact Lennox’s argument in “common sensism”; the type we so easily accept if we don’t interrogate it further. Essentially his argument is there must be an agentic designer/supreme being; we can only say x made y, not y made y. But this begs the question, where did x come from? Are we not then back at the proposal of x made x, or x always was (faith), which is hardly rational at all-the basis of his argument. I’m not necessarily defending empiricism, that physical, observable evidence (atoms, molecules) trumps all. However, since Lennox claims rationality as the basis of his position, if we apply Occam’s Razor I would say the explanation of physics requires far less mental gymnastics than the theological one. Moreover, if we were to accept the theist position, there is a god. Which one is he? Is he a he? Anything we claim to know about said god is purely speculative, as evidenced by the plethora of religions humanity has invented over time. What is known of god/s, is entirely fabricated by humans-there is no evidence for any divine revelation inspiring scripture or teachings. There simply is no rationality to it. I assume Lennox is defending the Judeo-Christian god of his culture (had he been born elsewhere he would be referring to Allah or Krishna) and follows the tenets of the Christian Bible (the cannon agreed by a select few). He would do well to acknowledge that he has faith simply because he prefers this explanation to the scientific one. To defend it as truth, and try persuade others of this, is nonsensical.

[@BenStevenson-c4z]

John is a Good Scientist and Christian ✝️

[@edkudray2060]

Wise words indeed Science and faith have always been linked. But they don't want you to make that connection today. Today they want you to believe science and faith are separate. Can't believe in one without the other. For nothing has ever been created from nothing

[@ronkempke6673]

I guess you're ignorant of the big bang singularity.

[@k7jeb]

Yeah, science has acquired these bad habits of insisting on self-consistency, repeatability, falsifiability and logical directness (among others). If God appeared to a scientist, he or she would probably want him to come back the next day for a urine sample and a DNA swab.

[@mysticjen379]

@@ronkempke6673That apparently came from nothing…

[@edkudray2060]

@@ronkempke6673 no I'm not last I checked it's still a theory....you know what a theory is right...

[@gssr1]

@@edkudray2060 Science and faith are not linked. Science is the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation, experimentation, and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained. Faith requires no study or testing of evidence. As for the nothing argument; there is nothing about atheism that expresses any view point on that issue. And the big bang does not presume that something came from nothing; only that our known universe came from a singularity. It does not presume to know what may or may not have existed prior to that moment. Lastly, you appear to want to use the grade school definition of 'theory,' as opposed to how that term is used in science.

[@catzzzvd2635]

❤EXCELLENT GOD BLESS THEM IN JESUS NAME AMEN 🙏 FROM SOUTH AFRICA ❤🔥✝️🕊🙌

[@Jiggerj01830]

All he did was present the fact that Newton believed in god, and that his college believed in god. These things don't prove god.

[@gameboy-bt7nk]

That's because there is no proof. And even if there was proof, it'd practically be meaningless. Being Christian is based on having faith in God based on the arguments God presents you. If you only follow God because of evidence and not because of faith, the meaning of God gets lost. God will become just like a boss at work, telling you what to do and what not to do. Faith incites that you trust God in a way that allows you to form a deep relationship with him. Without this relationship, people will do whatever they want, God will lose his authority and power because he is forced to come down to the level of 'mere humans' (Just like Jesus did for us) The entire puppet theatre of trying to prove God is therefore meaningless, because proof does not equal faith and trust. Proof only provides a truth that God exists but doesn't necessarily make people listen to God. (Just like how people don't tend to listen to their parents, teachers, etc. because they don't want someone to have authority over them)

[@MCBRUCE76]

John Lennox, has always been my great inspiration for the focus towards Jesus. This guy is not a joke, he is like fire to Atheists, no matter where you touch, you will burn yourself. Has anybody run a background check on Richard Dawkins and his personal and professional life, because it has a lot to do, what he is doing right now.

[@LGpi314]

Lennox is an old fart that has no evidence for his god and this why he never published any of this in scientific publications. He knew if he would then his scientific peers would laugh at him. " This guy is not a joke, he is like fire to Atheists," That is whishfull thinking. LMAO Why do you need a background check on Dawkins?

[@AshKhazJew]

I totally agree that there is a creator of the universe! And what really brought it home for me was when I was studying human anatomy and physiology and cytology. There is an intelligence behind all the systems in the body, and I was in awe of it, still am. My question to myself at the time, was how can this beautifully crafted system that works so amazingly together be anything less than originating from some kind of universal intelligence. How can the Universe and the systematic laws it functions under be just random and coincidence. It doesn't make any sense.

[@paulh1194]

Well said

[@inhatoyeptho2983]

What a marvelous beautiful explanation of Dr, John ! More practical, more philosophical and more scientific. Love it👌👍❤

[@kevinod771]

And if horses had a god he’d look like a horse! Bertrand Russell

[@lukeheffernan854]

Funny how the Christian God is an all powerful, uncreated Being, Being itself- the source of all existence, infinitely Good, True, and Beautiful… kind of different than a human no?

[@bernardjoyce1288]

Maybe he/her does

[@stephenmitchell6368]

Mr. Russell may think differently now.

[@LucasPatutas]

But God doesnt have a definite shape. Thats the thing, you all think God looks like a human, but God has no shape, and you cant Accept that

[@khoannguyen834]

Thank God for the faith in Him and in Jesus Christ. Thank Dr. John Lennox and all who help us becoming stronger in our faith, even sometimes we feel doubt or hopelessness. Also thanks to Daniel and those who recorded and distributed this wonderful talk. May God bless you all.

[@OlebogengMakola-x8u]

But God is just a fairy tale

[@filborarroyo7942]

Lies ended when confronted with "TRUTH".

[@mbc4240]

Which of the two you consider a lie and which one you consider as truth?

[@JanWnogu]

At what moment? He pushed those religious lies to the very end.

[@GaryEdwardswiz]

Our Words From Jesus were LOVE that Cures all Only The Christian religion Teaches Love All

[@marvinc9994]

Contrast with Islam - which teaches permanent _jihad_ against ALL Unbelievers - until the WHOLE world has been conquered, at which point 'peace' will reign - under the 'Religion of Peace' (an expression whose significance silly people simply fail to understand!).

[@maxxmabemwe4859]

Christ is a title, not a surname. Yeshua was claimed to be the Christ by his followers. None of his apostles had surnames, Peter, Luke, Mathew, Mark, Thomas, etc.

[@icesculpting4you]

Delusional

[@marvinc9994]

@@icesculpting4you "Delusional" So you BELIEVE (or hope)! But you don't actually KNOW, do you - as a psychiatrist would, when faced with a _genuinely_ delusional subject? And to be frank, your single-word response hardly contributes to what _should_ be a rather interesting debate, does it? So - why did you even bother?

[@russn922]

This guy didn't "DESTROY" anything other than rationality.

[@dulls8475]

Nor did he put the post up with that title. How about telling us why he is wrong?

[@Siervo.del.Señor]

Best and smartest Christian Apologist I´ve come to listen to

[@LGpi314]

Still an apologist wand full of bullcrap and fallacies.

[@rosalindearp8806]

🎂The cake maker knows why they made the cake.

[@naimeaeava5334]

Only aunty Mathilda knows why she made the cake

[@MarcusCicero1]

Does a machine know why it made the cake ?

[@subbasslines]

Does the cake maker need ingredients to make a cake?

[@leongkhengneoh6581]

the cake maker then blames the cakes when he made the bad cakes

[@JelenaO-y2f]

Exactly! He create this world in his infinite wisdom and for his own glory. To create is proper to a Diety. Thus God proves himself to be the true God and distinguishes himself from idols.

[@JoyDivision88]

Is it me or does Dawkins look a tad uncomfortable listening to this.

[@bearlemley]

I’m sure it doesn’t make him uncomfortable, it makes him embarrassed

[@dsferns4227]

Yes. Atheism is not logical. Agnosticism is somewhat, but not

[@kellysmyth2337]

@@JoyDivision88 He’s uncomfortable because he can’t believe the bullshit

[@JoyDivision88]

@@kellysmyth2337 What an educated response. You obviously are far more intelligent that I am and I bow down to your superior intellect as I am just a stupid Christian.

[@JoyDivision88]

@@Buckets1000 Wow hundreds of years of the greatest minds the world has known debating the existence of God, yet you have it sorted just like that. Amazing.

[@jimmymac9388]

I just wish God would put in an appearance every 50 years or so, hold a press conference and put an end to all this.

[@luisalthoff]

🤣🤣🤣

[@brucewilliams7218]

You have a greater chance of Kamala Harris doing that!

[@claymoreland1946]

Well if the bible is any indicator, that doesn't really work. People still turn to false gods, hedonism etc. mere days after seeing some crazy miracle.

[@eddiehernandez7806]

One day on His time. GOD'S timing is perfect

[@sakthivelponnusamy9329]

thats why he doesnt exist

[@harryb3217]

We all agree that the Universes came from Something. Maybe this God of John Lennox's Farted and Here We Are!

[@nikosnikos3624]

I am from Greece, the homeland of Culture and Sciences. So I have this to contribute, Civilization and Sciences developed in Greece when the ancient Greek philosophers and other scientists got rid of metaphysical concerns and endless discussions about God and I honestly don't believe they were wrong...

[@Giorgos-n4i]

Science is the study of the nature and the universe, including everything inside of it and the laws that form it. Physics, mathematics, astronomy, biology, and all the other sciences involve around studying these things. Things that were created by God and formed under the wisdom of God. (I'm from Greece too)

[@ncooper8438]

I'm glad he addressed the perennial stumbling block of pain and evil.

[@LGpi314]

Who does? 1. *If God is willing to prevent evil but not able, then He is not omnipotent (all-powerful).* 2. *If He is able but not willing, then He is malevolent (not all-good).* 3. *If He is both able and willing, then why does evil exist?* 4. *If He is neither able nor willing, then why call Him God?*

[@marijkeintveld9546]

​@@LGpi314what about free will for humans and justice from God?

[@paulmartin8100]

In what way did he satisfactorily address pain and evil?

[@geoffcrumblin9850]

Atheism makes claims, only a request for evidence. As yet, none has been sufficient.

[@Steve52344]

Evidence is the only reliable witness. Everything else are wishes, hopes and fairytales

[@John315coco]

@@Steve52344 True. The evidence totally supports why I can (and do) have a personal relationship with God.

[@MrJdsenior]

@@John315coco MAN, did you read that comment incorrectly. And I think he meant to write 'no claims', because otherwise, that sentence and statement makes no logical sense. What EVIDENCE are you referring to? Even the bible says that it is faith alone. There IS NO evidence.

[@adriangiles5086]

Love Logic with all your Heart, mind and strength.

[@paulmartin4401]

Wow what a powerful testimony

[@Futs7zur]

Lol religious people will try to hang on with what the got lol using pleople like this, as the existence of god is sooooooo laughable

[@lotus9865]

And believing everything came from nothing isn't soooooo laughable?

[@MrJdsenior]

@@lotus9865 OK, they are equally laughable. Does that work for you? It does for me. ;-)

[@lotus9865]

@@MrJdsenior yh true but one is right....!! Which one???

[@JanWnogu]

@@lotus9865 "believing everything came from nothing isn't soooooo laughable" You are so right! Let's believe then that the world came from a creator who came from nothing! 🤣🤣🤣

[@lotus9865]

@@JanWnogu nope he existed for eternity!

[@ekchulbuli]

Know the truth and the truth will set you free

[@chrishawth1589]

The man explained his delusion rationally that's all, still a delusion.

[@butterpecan5642]

So sad that you believe the delusion that there is no God.

[@butterpecan5642]

John lennox just preached the gospel of Jesus Christ and you missed it

[@gingebrien2408]

I was hoping he would show me how mathematically it is improbable that our world came out of nothing but demands in a greater power.

[@mariafewster4127]

If you watch the movie. "God's not dead" it's a great explainer.

[@malakai0076]

@@gingebrien2408 Someone once calculated ( need to dig this up ) that for ALL the millions of ‘things’ that had to align to create life, from the temporal positions of the earth to the perfect distance of the earth from the sun, the probability of all these aligning is, as you understand, incredibly small. So small that from the mathematical perspective, it’s ZERO.

[@albertlevert2988]

@@malakai0076if God chose such a complex way of creating us, going through the pain of creating many galaxies, and within each many planetary systems, and within one of them, the perfect conditions for life to emerge, but then needing a few billion years to reach the creation of mankind, and having this mankind being such a group of fools never respecting what god wants, then God was at least very incompetent, or simply just foolish. If he was omnipotent why create such a mess ? And then why let humans risk destroying themselves ?

[@malakai0076]

@@albertlevert2988 Yes have had such questions by so many. If you are genuinely ready to listen then I will do my best to explain. First of all God created time. To God time is but a line. God is at the beginning of time as well as at the end of time. He is above time. So the billions of years to God is not even a millisecond. Many in mankind are fools that have refused to believe in the One who created them. But many have and do. There is no mess. There are issues but those issues are caused by mankind. If God wanted to intervene He can and sometimes He has. However He has let mankind deal with the issue by themselves hopefully thru His laws ( that are defined to. avoid the mess ). Whether we do or we dont, He will judge not now but on the Day of Judgement which he has warned mankind of. Now my close friend Hans says "If God wanted to he could have easily feed those dying in Africa" and the likes. OK lets follow this line. So God intervenes to help the starving Africans. Wow,wait. If God can help them, God can also help me find a good job rather than sweeping the floor. God finds me a good job. Wow, if God can help me find a good job, God can also make me win the lottery. ......it will go on until there is NO REASON for God to have created us in the first place. in the Quran Allah (SWT) says "We created man and jinns to worship Him"(Q) while in another place it says "And Allah is not in need of ANY of His creation...He is free of all needs"(Q). Hope this make some sense. I am scientist and I also believe in God. Just take DNA....how complex it is....the blue print of life. No software, not even AI based models can come anywhere near the complexity of DNA.

[@PieterAdriaanvanderWalt]

@@albertlevert2988 A Creator of universes and realities, incompetent. Wow. Okay.

[@williambrown9785]

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[@sharonmatomane6297]

God bless his word in Jesus name Amen🙏

[@IAGVyuing]

Hi, anybody with a link to the full event ? thx

[@rwongusa]

To destroy atheism is to prove god exists. This person presented nothing that show god is real. All he did was read excerpts from the bible.

[@ChrisJones-hs6nj]

You want evidence and yet you falsify the fact that all he did was quote the bible. He didn't quote it once!! Please, tell me more about this 'proof' that you speak of :/

[@Jon-l2k8o]

I can prove God exists.. The painting is proof of the painter The building is proof of the builder Creation is proof of the Creator Romans 1:19-20 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead so that they are without excuse. God gave us a conscience and that means (with knowledge) we know right and wrong as God put His laws in our hearts, We know its wrong to lie, cheat and steal but we do it anyway and after we die God will judge us by His law the 10 commandments which we can't escape because as I said God has written these laws in our hearts, Thou shalt not lie Thou shalt not steal Thou shalt not commit adultery Thou shalt not kill Thou shalt not covet Thats just 5 of them but how many times have you broken each commandment? Jesus said if you look with lust you commit adultery in your heart! the bible also says that to hate your brother makes you a murderer, everyone will have to give an account of themselves in the day of judgment, after you die you are judged and if you die in your sins you will go to hell forever but God dosent want to give you justice rather He wants to forgive you but God is a righteous judge and he will by no means look past your sins, so someone must pay for them, well 2000 years ago God was manifest in the flesh as Jesus Christ the Son of God and he died on the cross for our sins and was buried and rose again the third day and He is alive right now and will be forever, and if you put your faith in what He did, God will forgive you of all your sins and give you the Holy Spirit which will clean up your life, you will have supernatural power over sin. We broke Gods law and Jesus Christ paid our fine on the cross, the last 3 words Jesus said were, IT IS FINISHED, which means the debt is paid in full!! AMAZING! we don't have to pay for our sins!! we don't have to go to hell, hell wasn't created for man but for the devil and his angels but if we follow Satan we go where he is going. Buy a King James bible and read it, start in the new testament and God will reveal Himself to you as he has revealed Himself to me, most people will reject salvation because men love darkness rather than light and that is why many people can't find God, they don't want God they want to keep their sin and they are deceived not realising that God has something much better for you.

[@Morgan-r8g]

@@Jon-l2k8o you proved nothing other than you are gullible and have an invisible support system that is more about making money.

[@Jon-l2k8o]

@@Morgan-r8g I once thought that people who believed in God were stupid, that was until I almost died, or I was dying slowly with heart failure and I started having what i thought was sleep apnea, night after night I kept on waking up realising that I wasn't breathing, long story short, I woke up and at the foot of my bed standing at the door was an 8 foot devil or demon and this thing would have killed me, if I hadn't known who Jesus is, Jesus said in Luke 10, I give you power over all the enemy and nothing shall by any means harm you, I have the Holy Spirit in me and this massive demon couldn't take my life because of how powerful the Lord Jesus is, after that happened I remember thinking to myself about how this big demon would terrify anyone and yet this thing is afraid of the Lord Jesus and mankind isn't!, people use Jesus name in vain which is very foolish to say the least as only He can save our souls from hell, which is a real place, I pray God will allow you to see a big demon and when you see and are terrified call upon the name of the Lord Jesus and He will save you!

[@LucasPatutas]

​Then from where did the Big bang come from?

[@ritchiedockery3147]

Nothing from Nothing leaves Nothing. Something from Something leads to Everthing!

[@jjevans1693]

Who says everything was created from nothing? lol

[@billyjoejimbob75]

That sounds like "An answer that answers everything answers nothing."

[@davep3014]

​@@jjevans1693where did everything come from? Wanna do quantum physics?

[@jjevans1693]

@@davep3014 Nobody knows exactly how everything came into being. That's the point. I would rather not pretend to know things that humanity simply doesn't yet know.

[@MrJdsenior]

And nothing from something is still that something and something from nothing is negative something ...

[@markfisher5019]

15 minutes of waffle, bluster and quotes of past scholars but absolutely zero content to discredit the atheist position. He can believe and have faith in whatever makes him feel comfortable, that doesn’t make it so.

[@finarony]

Nonsense remains nonsense even if uncle Barry from Facebook is uttering it

[@JanWnogu]

The only thing he has "destroyed" in this video is his reputation as a scientist (who should understand, what makes a viable argument and what does not).

[@christianfunintuscany1147]

In this remarkable speech there is everything but logic and rationality. It is all about passion for God. And I don’t blame him: God is a wonderful creation, it is the perfect answer if seen from the perspective of the human tragedy. Science on the other hand is not so friendly. It gives us the bare evidence without embellishments because it is based on and can address only what it comes inside the field of objectivity. This point was very well stressed by Jacques Monod many years ago and I believe it is the major difference with the Christian point of view.

[@glynarchie5765]

As with other comments, you can't destroy athiesm , any more than you can destroy a lack of belief leprechauns exist.

[@cjen1959]

For us simpler minded folks I look at something like love. Evolution without God needs attraction to maintain the species but what purpose does love have in such a system? I believe our need to connect with one another is because we all come from the same Divine Family where we were all joined and we long to be reconnected to our brothers and sisters.

[@k7jeb]

I'll posit an answer: Love binds mating pairs of humans to each other and to their offspring. Love binds those families to the tribe. Love binds those tribes to human society. And human society is an extremely potent force for survival.

[@cjen1959]

@@k7jeb I agree. So is that an argument for or against the existence of God? If it’s an argument against then I would counter with why does love have to exist at that level when simple attraction allows the species to continue along with packs, flocks or whatever that solve for the community? IMO love goes way beyond the “need” for simple existence that nature affords the rest of the animal world.

[@k7jeb]

@@cjen1959 My point is that survival, either of the individual or of the species, is the final arbiter of existence. If "love", "faith in God" or brute physical strength enhances survival, then those attributes will propagate into the future with the surviving individuals. For humans, the big survival attribute is a complex, highly flexible social organization that effectively counters existential threats. Whatever the mental or physical constructs used for that social organization are, they become a part of the individuals who survive and reproduce.

[@Steve52344]

What "Devine Family"? FACT: We all came from our ancestors -- from prehistoric humans who came from ape-men who came from apes, etc. etc. And that's not a BELIEF...nor is it "DEVINE." Animals also long for their own kind.

[@cjen1959]

@@Steve52344 I’m referring to the soul not the flesh.

[@RoBin-lt7mw]

All the others have long papers of their notes but legend has a small piece of pages written important points and quotations. Great!

[@Bobby-l5i]

That guy didn’t say anything worth listening to.

[@marvinc9994]

In which case, he must hope to survive your displeasure!

[@LerataPhatsoane]

This just over your head, you have to be at a certain intellectual level to make head or tail of this statement

[@colins2]

@@LerataPhatsoane No, you just have to believe in fairies.

[@z_unknown]

God & Religion are different. Religion is a business, and a form of control. Some live off this business very comfortably. I wish all people in this world be turned into Good people. God = Good = God ❤❤❤

[@DocReasonable]

'Shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?' Amos 3 6 'I create darkness and create evil, I the LORD do all these things!' Isaiah 45 7 'I will bring evil upon this people, even of their thoughts!' Jeremiah 6 19

[@gowdsake7103]

Demonstrate ANY good that is good or even that can be shown to exist

[@z_unknown]

@@gowdsake7103 I'm not sure what you mean. But there are good people, & God = good people :-)

[@hahaokaywhatever865]

Pastor MAN has DESTROYED Atheism by putting words in ALL CAPS

[@Matty-z5b]

If We Exist Here, Why Can There Be Nothing Else???

[@diddsdaddiddsdad6865]

We will all find out one day.

[@maxrobespierre9176]

There is no known way to logically and rationally arrive at a conclusion in support ANY specific religion. The best that can come close to supporting the existence of god, could only support deist position. In other words, a power that created the universe but does not care to engage with human supplicants.

[@elsabezeeman6619]

The Christian God loves us so much that He came to live with us and even became physically part of human suffering.

[@wilhelmvonn9619]

Some kind of god may have created the universe - it would explain why there is "something rather than nothing" - but beyond that I don't think we can be sure of anything. People have sincerely believed in thousands of different gods.

[@maxrobespierre9176]

@@elsabezeeman6619 And the Muslim god?

[@elsabezeeman6619]

I have great respect for Muslims, but as far as I can gather, Allah is not renowned for his love. The Christian God came to live on earth in a human body. He was at times hungry, cold, didn't have a place to sleep, was humiliated, despised and eventually killed in a most brutal way - all because of his love for us; so that we, if we put our trust in Him, will receive everlasting life and ultimate justice. He even made it possible to have a relationship with Him, while still in this life on earth. I am not aware of any other religion that offers this.

[@GitauSimon]

@@elsabezeeman6619 Read the Bible for what it is. God in the Bible sets up the conditions for man to sin, curses the entire world because of a mistake (mind you Adam had not eaten from the tree of knowledge of good and evil) Sacrifices Himself to Himself as a solution. Salvation for mankind But He doesn't really die because Jesus rose from the dead after 3 days (the point of a sacrifice is actual loss. Thanos and Gamora kind of thing. What does God lose if Jesus rose from the dead? How is that a sacrifice? ) Salvation is offered on conditions of Hell which im sure is what keeps most people in their faith. Doesn't sound like a loving God to me rather it sounds like the stories of a group of people coming up. A local myth for a local people Saying that the God in the bible loves you is like congratulating a firefighter for putting out a fire that they started Not to forget all the people in other religions who according to your faith are damned to Hell because they don't believe the 'Right' God I'm not tryin to hate. These things just speak for themselves

[@psy237]

where exactly does he DESTROY it???

[@willemvanderwath1178]

Can you counter it?

[@tallbillbassman]

All he proves is that there are certain kinds of nonsense which are compatible with their own nonsensical consequences.

[@daMillenialTrucker]

wow what a nice and scientific rebuttal you made there, very philosophical, teach me more!

[@brucecromie3393]

Never let the latest scientific unknown be a barrier to filling it with a God. We have been pushing the ‘God Gap’ back and back with reason and science for hundreds of years and we will continue to do so.

[@robertrlkatz6890]

And you are no farther along.

[@matmersel2428]

As an agnostic I wonder who or what created God.

[@greenbird679]

But God is uncreated eternal being.

[@WhitneyR.]

God exists eternally. An everlasting God who has no beginning and no end.

[@MichaelShamamian]

People.

[@milansvancara]

Yeah, Christians just pretend these questions don't exist and desperately invent words and concepts making them not ask the obvious question. In other words "nothing can't exist without explanation but when it comes to my God, let's ignore it..." "everything has to have a beginning but when it comes to my God, let's ignore it..." That's as intelectualy dishonest stance as it can get. They can as well say the universe is eternal or sth and skip the incredibly unnecessary complicated middle man that creates extra issues rather than helpes

[@stevouk]

I prefer the term "Placeholder X" to "God", as "God" is weighed down with all sorts of dogma from all sorts of sources. Lennox is performing a bit of a cape-dance here. He is making some arguments for why something brought the universe into being. But he offers nothing by way of an explanation as to what that might be - as of course he can't, since nobody was around at the time. What he does by all sorts of sashaying around the argument, is to insert "God" as a given. The rickety rope-bridge from *his* conception of God (of c. vintage 2,000 years ago in Galilee) to the Placeholder he argues for, isn't one he even begins to want to cross here, and I don't blame him.