Is It Possible To Beat Kirby Super Star's Arena With Only A CPU Helper?

WARNING: Video may cause seizures.
Kirby Super Star remains one of the best games in the series, but after playing it a ridiculous amount over the years, I'm utterly fed up with it and can't bear the thought of doing so anymore. But even the most well-worn games can be given a new lease of life if you approach them from a new angle...
Perhaps Super Star's best feature is the ability to create helpers to join Kirby on his adventures and also enable a second player to take part in the fun. But if you lack a spare controller, fear not - the helpers will then be controlled by a CPU ally. Loneiness isn't a requirement this time.
Don't get too excited, however. I would say the CPU A.I is dumber than a box of rocks, but that would be an insult to the rocks. You will quickly regret wasting Kirby's precious abilities to create them after the tenth time they get themselves killed without contributing anything of value to the war effort.
And it got me wondering: Exactly how far can these helpers go without Kirby attacking any of the foes they encounter and leaving all the work to them instead? Is it possible to beat the arena, the toughest mode in Super Star, with only a CPU helper?
The rules are as follows:
- The first golden rule that must never be broken is that Kirby must never attack most enemies or bosses, it must be left to the CPU helpers. Heart of Nova is the only boss that Kirby is allowed to attack.
- The second golden rule: The helper must be controlled by the CPU at all times and never a player.
- Kirby can turn a helper into an item then use it to bring them back with full life, essentially giving them infinite health if used without restriction and making the challenge not very challenging.
There are three options, depending on how difficult the player wants the challenge to be:
1. Only use this trick between rounds as a way to heal.
2. Set a limit to how often it can be used through the entire run.
3. Not use the trick at all and only heal helpers with Maxim Tomatos.
- During battles, Kirby is not allowed to heal helpers or create new ones if die/start to die with the use of his own abilities. The only way the helpers may restore health is if they touch an enemy with an ability while dying and absorb it or if T.A.C uses his copy powers to absorb one.
- All types of helpers are allowed to be used.
#Kirby #whoisthisgit #Nintendo

[@Insulted25]

TAC goes from single digit IQ to Kenshiro in 1 second.

[@StarshadowMelody]

And back again.

[@acedelta12]

TAC going full Kyoshi for 31 minutes

[@JoseRicardo-js3pp]

Tac platinum

[@someguy764]

Kirby forgets the group project and everyone else has to make up for it

[@uandresbrito5685]

Basically Helper to Hero

[@Derfderk]

Except Kirbo is the brain of the group.

[@hatredmalice7273]

Even with all the support, they still fail to meet the deadline... Cursed whale.

[@Spilsbury1989]

Kirby's the nerd they pretended to like to get an easy A. But he figured them out

[@acedelta12]

@@Derfderk POYO! *pulls out holy cross and bible*

[@jebraxas5233]

Doing this challenge is the equivalent of bashing two rocks against your head and determining which one hurts more

[@BlueStar44422]

Gim just didn't want to hit a lady. He decided to simply dance for her until she threw the first punch

[@X-V1L3]

Lalala: Am I a joke to you?

[@Jay-qt8kf]

nah he was just dancing at the praise of being the best ai

[@uandresbrito5685]

The AI is always against us, even when it's on our side

[@genericchannel4910]

Can't forget Oswalt in Epic Mickey 2

[@fernandalins2457]

I mean in kirby fighters deluxe the enemy its at least ten times more powerful than the ally a.i, at least in the hardest dificulty.

[@uandresbrito5685]

Damn, those are some really mean ally systems.

[@Mecceldorf]

As someone who thinks this looks like a cool idea for Star Allies, I can already see a lot of similar issues emerging, but hey, ever since all the dream friends came around the regular allies have been neglected by me, so they deserve a chance to shine in the pit.

[@richardgibson8403]

Plus now you can have 3 so maybe quantity can beat quality

[@kirby1781]

It is possible, I had a team of Stone, Magolor, the sisters, and a Chef. I turned into stone and let them deal most of the damage to the final boss. I assume only the first and third stages would be impossible due to a problem like Heart of Nova.

[@kariosk123]

star allies ai is smarter i think it's surely possible

[@Mecceldorf]

I’ve been doing one ally per run, stone in the corner, basically “coaching” the allies as I focus on literally anything else for the most part and then running into the fray whenever I want to revive the ally. On paper, any ally could make it to the end given time, but some are so bad at their jobs that I... pull the Plugg. ... he actually insults me with how bad he is at his job.

[@timur1326]

"How does someone who lives inside this game have such little understanding of how it works?" Damn...

[@goingdiagonal6693]

AI is hard to program, but I think this game could have at least make AI face enemies

[@Shyguymask]

I wonder if Super Star Ultra on the DS improves the Helper AI?

[@Cacemomarerona]

In my experience... nah.

[@knox1392]

ok io game fanboy

[@Cacemomarerona]

@@knox1392 hey, don’t be rude.

[@shardtheduraludon]

@@knox1392 It’s literally been a whole year since he made an .io game video.

[@_puduposting]

welp, they don't do the jump attack thing so often

[@orang-juice]

When he said "YOU'RE FACING THE WRONG WAY!!!" *i felt that*

[@Sean_Bird]

I can't imagine how hard this would be in KSSU's True Arena. ...Well, actually it'd technically be impossible, since a CPU helper can't help Kirby against Kabula.

[@uandresbrito5685]

But it would be the same situation as Heart of Nova

[@sharpeylogic2907]

It'll probably be the same situation as Heart of Nova. The bigger problem are the last four bosses

[@Blayne06]

@@sharpeylogic2907 Galacta Knight would be pure pain.

[@SteelCrustacean]

@@Blayne06 more so than he already is?

[@clivetheoson6761]

The most difficult boss would have to be either Marx's Soul or Galacta Knight.

[@tdawgmaster1729]

Alternate Title: Kirby Super Star: CPU Helper Abuse or Tails Abuse 2: Electric Boogaloo

[@spiritduo]

T.A.C is like the skilled friend that refuses to do anything but when he does he just completes it 10x faster and better than everyone

[@_-insertname-_]

“If [...] games were lollypops [...] this game would be just a stick with nothing left for me to lick” ...so who’s gonna tell him about Super Star Ultra?

[@clivetheoson6761]

Not it!

[@kirb707]

I love to see my bot Gim doing well! One of my favorite abilities/partners. It's definitely interesting how much better the AI seems with some characters than with others.

[@fishbiscuit8266]

Popstar really has incompetent people. Needs Kirby as a mentor and friend.

[@pokemonveterank3031]

There's a reason Meta Knight attacked Dreamland to make them git gud. He saw just how incompetent they were.

[@zeospark9715]

I'll be honest: Fatty Whale is a pain in the ass even without this challenge so it's no wonder he was a pain in a challenge like this.

[@olbluelips]

Fatty whale is actually the easiest boss in the game. He can be defeated solely by guarding

[@katuron9245]

Has T.A.C always been so OP in the OG game? I never knew this.

[@xenophanessonic821]

People: AI will take over the world!! AI:

[@DimiArt]

damn, crazy how much ai has improved since this comment.

[@furiouscorgi4812]

10:00 i think defeated woods counts as an entity, so the AI continues to try to kill it, just like how in Halo and stuff, in absence of a living Spartan target, they will shoot your dead body.

[@Borti_Ovi]

Sometimes, the 2nd Player gets all the fun! In any game where there is a possibility to play as any character other than the main, I have this urge to want play that other character, even if they’re just aesthetically different. Whenever Player 2 has the exclusive privilege to play as a whole separate character, it frustrates the h&ll outta me! I can only play the main as Player 1 and I have no one to be Player 1 so I can be Player 2. Kirby Superstar is one of those examples and the most recent game I’m playing, Cave Story+ for Nintendo Switch, fits the same bill!

[@borby4584]

Isn’t there a Curly mode in Cave Story tho?

[@Borti_Ovi]

@@borby4584 I’m glad you freakin’ asked! Yes, there is a Curly mode in all versions; however, in the Switch version, there is a two player option, and the second player can be: Old-School Quote/Curly, Quote Alts, Curly, Curly Alts, King, Toroko, Sue, that old dude, A Killer Robot, and Evil Naked Curly I want to play as one of the Mimiga or that Killer Robot, and I can... If I’m Player 2...

[@carmenwinstead5152]

too true

[@Underworlder5]

@@Borti_Ovi good thing star allies has certain modes that let you play without kirby. you can enjoy playing as the helpers even in single player

[@PapaPootOs]

Hell*

[@genericchannel4910]

AI more like ALOI (artificial lack of intelligence

[@SongbirdOfficial]

Gottem!

[@Yasuuuuuuuu]

You can almost completely beat the arena with copy only, but I’m pretty sure chef Kawasaki makes it impossible by giving you cook

[@metachop7444]

how can u hit with copy tho

[@Yasuuuuuuuu]

@@metachop7444 it becomes a damaging attack against certain bosses

[@olbluelips]

@@Yasuuuuuuuu and against any enemy that doesn't contain a power

[@ChaseVaccaro-ge3gk]

@@Yasuuuuuuuu Just like TAC's grab.

[@rcblazer]

I think I actually tried this once when I was a kid. It helped me get really good at dodging the bosses' attacks, as I didn't use the Stone ability to remain invulnerable the whole time. Never got past Fatty Whale without taking control of the helper with the Player 2 controller though.

[@powerguy3976]

One time my bomb partner ran up to the halberd’s reactor and spammed bombs as fast as possible. The one time the AI attacked fast.

[@flourrrr]

9:36 "Stop it! He's already dead!"

[@dr.loboto1171]

Okay, TAC punching Marx in the face as the finishing blow was badass.

[@surgecentral05]

15:05 This man's dash dancing

[@shardtheduraludon]

Gim for Smash

[@hankb4516]

I literally just got this game on DS. How does KZbin pull this stuff off.

[@SteelCrustacean]

YOO, you got KSSU? That's pretty baller.

[@willycheez7218]

@@SteelCrustacean Literally the best Kirby game ever

[@awildfurret]

Kirby Motivational Statue!

[@drnubber3069]

Funny how there’s a mode in Super Star Ultra where you actually PLAY as the helper in arena.

[@gimgamsprongle1084]

The Twin Woods fight was fucking hysterical holy shit

[@nigoulenoblehiboux9812]

Seems interesting

[@juanitoguanobacoa4228]

Just imagine a "Kirby and the amazing mirror" completed only by the CPUs... Idk if it's even possible tho

[@iceicicle3046]

This is one of my favourite channels on youtube i dont why i enjoy your videos so much but i do

[@ryanarias6416]

man this is actually one of your best videos you made in your entire carrer. Something as beating the whole the arena with the helpers is something i never imagine knowing how dumb the i.a was but finishing this video make realize how awesome they can be. Excellent video. PD: mas this video deserve alot of views and im waiting for the next video of the helpers vs the true arena.

[@Boinkity1]

I'm starting to wonder if it's possible to beat the bosses of Kirby's Dream Land 3 with only a CPU-controlled Gooey.

[@albertriley7721]

Dear God that sounds terrifying hes so stupid in that game 😭

[@clovertheunlucky]

17:37 "BUT THE YO-YO MASTER DID NOT ANSWER, HE JUST KEPT ON YOING"

[@shardtheduraludon]

Dear god. That brought back good vibes

[@alexanderthomas3187]

Kirby Wins by Doing Absolutely Nothing That meme's still cool right?

[@spikeyrex5873]

Yes

[@Dani-xi4uv]

15:06 a wavedash, dash dance, down A into side B, side B again, turns and ends with a side B!!!!!! this guy really could be in smash

[@madafaka2666]

Wait, if I recall correctly, Kirby Super Star Ultra had a game mode where you would only be able to control the helper, like, instead of playing as kirby, you would play as a helper, could be interesting to see who is the best at dealing with the bosses, I would say either Bonkers, T.A.C. or Burning Leo (When using the fire attack, if you press the direction of the character, the user will catch on fire, it doesn't hurt you, but it deals a lot of damage to the enemies)

[@proking2354]

The mode is called helper to hero, and the answer is probably bonkers. If you know the strats you can melt any boss in seconds with hammer. For example, you can beat Dedede, wham bam rock, kracko, and fatty whale in under 8 seconds. Bosses like meta knight go down in 16 seconds, etc. Etc. Hammer is completely busted if you know what you’re doing.

[@Part_Time_Fox]

Dang Blade Knight is a champ

[@datinfodroidguy]

I feel like the AI gets super smart for some battle, but then the game realizes, wait this is too smart, and dumbs it down.

[@dego-mon]

Does this also apply to super star ultra? I don't remember my partner being THAT idiotic, compared to the original

[@finnvaneekelen4966]

@@lordlouie3550 nova nucleas wa sin the original

[@goingdiagonal6693]

Kirby without his canon power

[@Snilky]

This is just Chao Karate but in kirby

[@mirandasealinia5524]

Man this is such a cool challenge! I’ve always sort of wondered it myself but never got the chance to try it. I never knew that Tac had so much power though...

[@flipperjr.3822]

Sometimes it feels like kirby is desperately trying to puppeteer his AI Helper by two strings. With his tiny nub hands with no fingers.

[@ckert31]

Awwww yeah half hour vid. Time to grab a snack and relax.

[@Hegaems]

He just unlocked the Necromancer copy ability

[@sand_salt]

Amazing video! I really like the idea

[@harveee1746]

Cpu are actually more powerful than you think...

[@ozzie8520]

Lesson of the day: Helpers aren't that bright.

[@projectnex757]

Every other helper: slowpoke T.A.C.: speedster

[@richardbagley3139]

Don’t worry bro, Gim was just wavedashing due to happiness on Lololo dying

[@miimiiandco]

I'm liking your take on Helper to Hero.

[@c5h87]

Vs meta knight the cat got soo done of you screaming at him "ALR IS THIS wHAT YOU WANT HUH"

[@christopherearth9714]

Bonkers: Nah. *Bonkey Kong* : perfection.

[@Flygoniaks]

As stupid as it sounds, I can't help but wonder if Wheelie will be able to fight Fatty Whale... just seems like the right moveset to get the job done.

[@Predator20357]

This is what happens when the one guy in the group project decides to leave the others to it, this is the end result

[@agentblackbird9435]

That first part with Kracko made me remember how much I hate him has a boss. It doesn’t matter what game it is, I always dread fighting him. Also it’s nice to see Gim be one of the best helpers AI Wise, as he and Birdon are my favorite helpers from this game.

[@smashbrosguyt915]

Fun fact: there is an ability that kills Kirby well it is the screen( in the copy ability screen ) that appears when Kirby dies and apparently can be selected when you stuck in two enemies

[@ThisIsntAYoutuber]

I played the DS version of this game, but... I did not realize helpers used to have such a ridiculous amount of attack speed. They really did Helpers dirty in Ultra didn’t they?

[@sav3133]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone did a speed run of this

[@Solesteam]

19:18 The helper: Please... Kirby... defeat this in my *dieing cough* absence... *cue explosion*

[@Spilsbury1989]

14:55 Gim saw that Lalala is single now, and got nervous

[@redzgaming6880]

You should do a collaboration with Mitten Squad, a youtuber who does similar videos, exept for more recent games, most notably, the "Fallout" series.

[@darklordliam]

The AI struggles against Waddle Dee because they know killing him is wrong.

[@korhol2065]

You know a challenge is a load of bull when king dedede becomes challenging

[@fantomeghostblacksapphire9152]

This seem to be more painful than fun, but definitely hilarious to see helpers """trying""" to fight the bosses!

[@SomeGuy712x]

I think your win over the Halberd Reactor should count. I mean, the helper did push Kirby into position, and then Kirby remained doing nothing for the rest of the round. So, it's mainly just Fatty Whale that's the biggest hurdle here.

[@BirdRaiserE]

I remember me and a friend actually beat superstar ultra on the DS using the wheelie partner, because one person could drive while another shoots stars

[@EXPancakesYT]

19:32 That was a DVD logo win right there.

[@soulhoney1908]

15:08 gim is simping about lalala

[@DSaC_]

My mom always found that GIM was the best helper in this game. (We didn't have 2 controllers so I couldn't play with her) His disjointed attacks and invincible dash attack makes him avoid damage better than others.

[@gaylimulus7129]

The reason why i was so hesistant to understand that TAC had one of the best damages in the game in your other video was exactly because the AI is so EFFING DUMB lol Wish i could play in 2 player mode to experience the pleasure of TAC destroying everyone

[@enlongjones2394]

The DS version (Super Star Ultra) has Helper To Hero; a variant of the Arena where you play as a Helper instead of Kirby. You can play as TAC there.

[@kyyay-yt]

15:08 he's trying to dashdance

[@TeeDubbleDee]

Blade Knight was ALWAYS my favorite. Good to see he gets some use here.

[@acidrgin7145]

15:04 love him or hate him *he be groovin*

[@blackout2986]

0:56 that’s an insult to the rocks

[@KazeSenshi2929]

Please do an extra video with the DS exclusive bosses

[@The14Pugs]

This entire video is management jobs in a nutshell.

[@CamCoProductions]

The AI be like: hmmmmm i gonna run into literally everything and eventually kill the enemy.

[@LunaMinuna]

7:20 Bio Spark is just standing there lmfao

[@zhengwenyu1587]

Can you? Sure Should you? HELL NO!

[@iamlucidess]

This challenge is truly.. Bonkers.

[@ShadeMeadows]

I never noticed DDD watchin' the Arena!!

[@SincradTB]

I have not played Super Star and dont know what the moves for yo-yo are, but here is my idea as to what is making it so good. The spin attack move is activated by pressing up and attacking, (or maybe jumping) which also makes it invincible. This habit of the AI makes it activate its useful attack more often. That’s my only theory with no other knowledge

[@jacobtheorangeyoshi8710]

AI before Nintendo 64 days was like a 2 year old trying to play the game.

[@willgloryo216]

I thought he had already done this vid? I was looking for 1 year ago comments just to check and see 1 day ago

[@goatsanimations4480]

The title is basically Kirby star allies in a nutshell

[@siyahseeker]

6:23 Top 10 Times RNG is Actually Helpful

[@crpalstuck2966]

And Git never covered Kirby Super Star ever again Until he did

[@Ultramudkip2]

Lol

[@LunaMinuna]

With the AI a pro tip is to have Wisp as your helper 1.He can fly 2.When he follows you he gains plasma so when an enemy is near by the will get demolished 3.He’s op But Tac is busted

[@TayoEXE]

What I learned today: Kirby Super Star's Helper AI is incredibly stupid yet incredibly powerful. (TAC is OP if he was just a little smarter. Like, you know, aim the right direction.)

[@PeanutTechno]

Who would win: A thief who has the ability to steal abilities OR A pair of trees

[@UCDitto]

So the strongest Helpers: Hammer Time. ...And I took that/ZA HANDO. I studied the Blade. Ness when you're at ledge/Speen.

[@Ultramudkip2]

The helpers in the next remake really really needs to have a better AI. Maybe more people will play it then.

[@XKrexX]

15:03 wavedashing after a kill in melee be like

[@co8wei]

Can't wait for the super star ultra version.

[@LackaJudgment]

What a sad irony, the helper's AI is so outlandishly stupid that it becomes a hindrance. I suppose on the plus side if you're looking for a little bit more of a challenge use the helper during your playthrough. The only time I ever found them helpful was for lighting the fuse to cannons when I was unable to, and I'm pretty sure that only happens once in GCO