Is It Right to Strip Some Pensioners of Their Winter Fuel Payments?

[@sandraoneill4431]

While the MPs still get up to £3,400 for their fuel allowance I feel they should also stop this too, they earn far more £91,346 + perks and second jobs, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander

[@vivienbutler1114]

Well said

[@keplermission4947]

@@vivienbutler1114 Yeah but that cliche about the goose and the gander sounds like misogyny. What is good for the high life goose you know often can't be bought by Poor House gander.

[@KimWilliamsmixupchannel]

Here here Sandra

[@franm.8343]

Where are the expenses cuts for the Houses of Commons and Lords! Labour is seriously wrong about this appalling action.

[@SunnyBirak]

They are cowards the lot of them they will just think of their greedy selfs it’s so sad if I hear one mp say we are one of the richest countries in the world I’m going to scream at the tv !

[@andyhodge7122]

Maybe we should pay our politicians the same as the state pension and see how they feel then.

[@caroleforshaw6287]

Yes I've just said the same

[@BLUEsurf63]

Great idea.

[@Alfred.E.Newman]

could find this so called billion shortage JUST doing that and more

[@crolla1234]

MPs still getting their heating payments. Disgusting.

[@StevePiner-m6x]

They wood get cold nd not be able to think lol just pay the foreign people cash to go home

[@GavinFeatherstone]

what does mister cooper think he is doing hosting a show. He is her wife from the Home office. The pair have already claimed expenses for heating their Second home along with the bent cabinet

[@JupiterThunder]

They live entirely on expenses - they don't spend any of their £92,000 salary.

[@supremeworld87]

​@@GavinFeatherstonewhy are you whiners always waffling on about second homes? Do you do realise these are London properties they are required to have as part of their job right? It's so they have somewhere to stay when they work in London. So of course it's only fair they claim the bills back as expenses. Do you complain when self employed people claims thousands back on business expenses they never incurred too?

[@boris1066]

Will Pensioners who pass away this winter from hyperthermia be remembered as victims with "broad shoulders" in a failing system?

[@suej9329]

* Hypothermia is extreme cold. . Hyperthemia is extreme heat.

[@caroleforshaw6287]

​@@suej9329you knew what was meant

[@jgreen9361]

@@boris1066 Will people of working age who pass away this winter be remembered as “victims with broad shoulders in a system being twisted by the likes of GB News and the Daily Mail that put the pearl clutching of wealthy pensioners above the interests of working people on very low income?

[@gailnevill286]

They Labour Party are responsible and should be imprisoned because it was premeditated

[@supremeworld87]

Do you think we live in the arctic or something? Our winters are cold bit theyre not going to give anyone hypothermia in their homes

[@paulbird3235]

What do these MPs claim for on their second homes, could we have that out in the open please.

[@patthewoodboy]

more than £3K I believe , all politicians are evil

[@gerardhampson9089]

£ 4,400 per year .

[@paulbird3235]

@@gerardhampson9089 Thank you.

[@Jkk55]

I feel so sorry for the pensioners the PM is to busy paying for the illegal immigrants it's all wrong 🤬

[@JonathanWebb-h5b]

Get real . The cost if these illegal immigrants is going through the roof . They wont go cold this winter .​@gavinsmith9564

[@christopher554]

It won’t stop there taxes will be going up on everything

[@AlanRay-lh6dj]

@@Jkk55 get a life human beens e all in this world so look after each other what. About your millionaire friends greedy u. Attack the wrong people

[@sue2512]

They are not going to save money when the hospitals get overwhelmed this winter

[@blackpound2297]

They will save money. There are a lot of pensioners

[@clivejones5561]

Cutting the winter fuel for pensioners will cause a backlog in hospitals when pensioners are admitted due to catching pneumonia.

[@MrKarlyboy]

Or rushed there because they are dying. Never thought of that.

[@chindit6784]

They cause a backlog every year 😂

[@willowtree9291]

​@@chindit6784if you are lucky enough to live to old age, you could be a bed blocker too.

[@gotnastyhabbits7101]

Nah they will all be jailed for saying its wrong .. can get heating inside painting smiley faces on coloured cardboard lol😊

[@Central_Middle]

wouldnt the nhs cost of treating our pensioners be much higher than the heating allowance?

[@ronholfly]

It is OK to care for Illegal Immigrants but not OK to care for Old Age Pensioners who have paid into the system all their working lives and now have to give up their winter fuel payment in favour of helping foreigners to live in free accommodation.

[@ShindyAdams]

Do you actually know how the immigration system works? It was the tories choice to stop them being process, stop legal routes, stop them working. Rich people should not get winter fuel payment, I know some people will fall below the line of pension and I really do feel for those people.

[@Chris-x1l]

Should of voted independent or reform. We got this for another 5 yrs

[@Robby334]

@@Chris-x1l The uk reform vote was a waste of a vote they could have voted Tory

[@Anonymous-zg8vi]

You are right free accomadation, food lighting pocket money clothing allowances and security guards protecting them it’s disgusting.

[@Anonymous-zg8vi]

@@Robby334Vote Tory? After the last 14 years are you crazy. A Reform vote was not a waste and there is little guarantee Labour will last five yrs I certainly hope not. Even if they did there is no way they would win another election after being such traitors to us British, they are finished or will be. Reform will undoubtedly win the next election, then we will see how a country should really be run, bring it on.

[@Wade453]

I understand the need to reduce costs but targeting pensioners is unfair. They’ve contributed to the system their whole lives.

[@Martin-cb7gk]

This breaks the promise of a comfortable retirement.

[@LilianScott-dy5nz]

There are other places to cut costs, like government waste or corporate subsidies.

[@ancietman]

Compared to billions we give in foreign aid & the cost of migrants in hotels the fuel allowance is peanuts..

[@MikeHollow-rz5dl]

That’s cynical. We should be protecting our elderly, not using them as a political football.

[@AlanRay-lh6dj]

All rich pensioners should not get it some live abroad get it disgusting

[@kevindavies2406]

9MILLION A DAY TO HOUSE ILEAGALL MIGRANTS IN WARM HOTELS WITH PLENTY TO EAT, THEY WONT HAVE TO MAKE THE DECISION WETHER TO EAT OR HEAT THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LABOUR PARTY FALLING OVER THEMSELVES TO DO SO MUCH FOR THEM, AND SAYING TOUGH LUCK TO OUR SENIOR CITEZENS . I'LL NEVER VOTE LABOUR AGAIN , THE MPs WILL HAVE THEIR HEATING ALLOWANCE ON THEIR SECOND HOMES.

[@johnbluett6079]

LABOUR need to realise PENSIONERS HAVE FAMILIES who vote

[@DCDPM]

Yeah they do have families who vote. How many pensioners voted for Brexit and consecutive Tory Governments. They didn't think about us

[@ThesocialmuteHD]

@@DCDPMbecause the elderly actually have common sense

[@PhilPrewett]

Look at that poor starving Labour spokesman...

[@georgethepatriot2785]

Starmer knows the Oldies remember the UK as it used to be before the White Flight started from the cities an example. He wants rid of the Truth holders. He has time on his side sadly. The young will be' programmed' starting at school

[@durrcadurk]

​@@ThesocialmuteHD Brexit is the furthest thing from common sense

[@juliecrowe5252]

Can you imagine if the MP had their allowances cut

[@susanyates4233]

Stop funding the boat people, stop the MP`s winter fuel payment. So how much does James earn.

[@JohnSmith-bx8zb]

Do you know how many migrants are coming into the country with Home Office documents allowing them, clue more than by boats.

[@lindadonaghy2353]

James seems to be eating non stop,needs to see a dietician.

[@EileenGoehring-lb8hy]

​@lindaTotally agree, he won't be cold this winter enough blubber on himdonaghy2353

[@dianewray1867]

@@lindadonaghy2353 Harsh!

[@silvasnow3861]

Looks like he's spent a fortune in nandos

[@davidarmitage4814]

They found so much money for asylum seekers

[@robertanderson6776]

Exactly pure madness

[@peteweller117]

That £22 billion is paying exorbitant pay rises for train drivers, civil servants, doctors and illegal migrants. In 2010 Liebore left a £158 billion black hole and left a note saying "There's no money left". Stop giving our money away to countries who don't need it.

[@lindadoswell9396]

What about mps giving up their heating etc allowances!!!

[@trevordixon1427]

Starmer must go

[@private5074]

They got away with taking the TV licenses so pensioners are fair game

[@forbeswatson]

And no wonder they don’t pay for this ,they are against this being taking away from them.

[@lorisheldon6427]

Stop funding money for Ukraine they can find money for that, but not for their own people shame on you labour

[@PaulHiggins-p1y]

Stop wasting money in green projects; over seas projects; MP’s etc

[@traceypickering9805]

It's a 22 page form with about 240 questions but don't worry politicians will be warm ..

[@andyross2788]

Pass legislation requiring all energy companies to deduct £300 for all pensioners bills. The profit these companies make is huge, so it's about time they take a hit.

[@shytalk7654]

At last.. somebody actually talking sense!! It’s the Energy companies who should be brought to account!! Let them take the hit.. stop profiting out of the misery of pensioners!!…

[@blackpound2297]

Most pensioners do not need the fuel allowance!

[@juneroseporter]

how about cutting mps fuel allowance they get it

[@margaretlythgoe4051]

The pensioners have worked all there life and should be treated with respect

[@heathersoper6923]

Its Wrong to cut winter payments, food prices have not come down.

[@RedSkysAreOnFire]

@@gavinsmith9564 got nothing to do with brexit

[@Andrew-tx9jy]

@@RedSkysAreOnFire It has.

[@jackspring7709]

Its not just wrong: its evil. Labour is doing this on purpose. The government makes a fortune in taxes every year. They sent billions to Ukraine and are housing new arrivals every day The money is there for the pensioners, but labour regards old people as a burden on the state. I'm not joking. That's what this is really all about.

[@blackpound2297]

That’s why the state pension has increased by £600

[@heathersoper6923]

@@blackpound2297 but in reality it will only be £350 after they deny pensioners the winter fuel payment or less.

[@robincasey1700]

You can send 40million to ukraine but cant keep our people warm in the winter 🎉🎉🎉

[@willowtree9291]

We need to support Ukraine, because if Putin wins he won't stop there.

[@gerrymclean-mh2dq]

Starmer traitor

[@mjl2904]

Pretty sure King Charles’ 50% pay rise would go to paying for the winter fuel allowance and have change

[@Ken-yy9us]

Plus Charles ALSO got the winter fuel handout!!

[@kennaljo]

the labour man is clearly not on a food pension

[@John-c4r1o]

He's eaten more portions of cake

[@bronte333]

Yes, l doubt he'll be feeling too chilly this Winter. An apologist for an incredibly vile decision.

[@LoneSheWolf09]

A necessity? Really? Did he just say that oh my god🙄🤦🏾‍♀️. What an insult.

[@kinggeoffrey3801]

This guy is vile, why he keeps getting air time I don't know.

[@christopherwatt9885]

It's criminal taking fuel payment off pensioners who have less than £12000 income. Pensioners will die is this what Labour want😵‍💫

[@blackpound2297]

If a pensioner has less than 12000 income, they do not have a private pension and most likely didn’t pay into the system.

[@stevendaly3680]

Greed greed greed. Evil.evil.

[@ShanePalmer-yo4og]

So it's OK to made pensioners suffer while giving Train Drivers what is close to a £10,000 a year pay rise. Which will take them from £60,000 a year to £70,000 a year..... How can Starmer and his cronies sleep at night..... I hope no pensioner dies from the cold this winter, but if they do, then it's on the governments shoulders.....

[@Ken-yy9us]

But the PM only acted on the recommendation of a tory led enquiry. Sunak sat on his hands, knowing he would lose the election and left the PM with the poison challis.

[@MikeB-p2c]

It's disgusting, especially when the government is spending 500k a day on empty hotel beds just for more non citizens coming in the boats. That is on top of what they are already giving non citizens in benefits.

[@paulbird3235]

And what are we going to do with the 200+ billionaires in this country give them a cut in their taxes

[@Chris-x1l]

Yes! So they operate in this country and dont bypass taxes so they pay 0% contribution to the economy.

[@heathersoper6923]

I'd rather the tories were still there even though I voted for Labour. The pensioners always Lose out.

[@elzwellz1924]

Got what you voted for ! You're part of the problem

[@puddle_puddle]

Welcome to the consequences of your own actions.

[@Simon37423]

Shame on you

[@northwestcoast]

@@elzwellz1924And seemingly you’re the rest of it

[@patthewoodboy]

@@northwestcoast so together they are the problem 🙂

[@loveofcrafts-b2e]

This guy is clueless. How about not giving over 11 billion overseas to tackle climate change. We would then have enough for our pensioners. It’s disgusting.

[@blackpound2297]

Yes, how about not putting in funding for future generations and worrying about those on their way out.

[@KathleenWaiton]

Attack the vulnerable typical of the Labour Party 😮😮

[@shytalk7654]

After what the Conservatives did to the poor people of this country, years of austerity and cut backs!! You need a reality check!!..

[@dominiclane8538]

You need a reallity check more like , its because of labour they had to make austerity . Labour just threw 30 billion away straight away on nonsense , ​@@shytalk7654

[@adamcraig1468]

Imagine saving up your whole life only for the government to take it and someone who didnt save at all sails along just as comfortably. its disgusting

[@SamanthaOhara-r6l]

There needs to be a system where there is regulated door-to-door knocking cuz it needs to be reminded that pensioners are not computer savvy and they need the support they need to be approached to make these applications..

[@shytalk7654]

How patronising.. I’ll have you know I’m completely computer savvy!!….

[@stewartELLIS-t3q]

cutting our payments still paying 170 million on mosques !!

[@AANDYist]

poor people get cold 2 stop virtue signalling

[@JohnSmith-bx8zb]

And no one said anything when 29,000 winter fuel payments were stopped. Same when the tories made Family Allowance Means tested!!!!

[@captricharddee3634]

Close the border to boat and lorry economic migrants, saving billions. Stop giving money away to funding union demands and cur the Foreign Aid budget to 10%. In Rachel Reeves own words, "If we can't afford it, we can't do it". Pensioners have paid into the system most of their working lives. On and during their retirement, they should be rewarded and provided for.

[@iristhompson1871]

I'm £3 over to receive pension credit I have £221 pension per week I applied and was told I'm over the amount needed no private pension, the government should take a pay cut problem solved black hole filled absolutely disgraceful

[@Dontlikefruit]

So that means those on state pension don't qualify anyway. This government is vile.

[@margarethampson9490]

Me too. The threshold for pension credit is £218.. .. my pension is £221.. I could cry.. I still have to pay for dentist and opticians.. people who claim pension credit are getting more money than me.. how is that right. 😢

[@iristhompson1871]

@@margarethampson9490 I know it's shocking how can they justify £3 over to stop everything else they are a disgrace to Britain just waiting for bus pass to be stopped unless you claim benifits I can't make sense of anything worked for 50 years to be treated like this

[@SamanthaOhara-r6l]

The pensioners are suffering more than what they did before.. .😢

[@NMiller80666]

It is going to be means tested. Do you think people who after been means tested and can afford winter fuel, should still receive payment?

[@northwestcoast]

@@NMiller80666£12 grand is a low bar

[@dirtydawg448]

@@NMiller80666the amount of money they are going to save won’t even cover a third of what they spend on housing illegal immigrants - do you think that’s fair?

[@Runbug]

So give big pay rise to public sector train drivers ECT and take it off people who are paid below minimum wage you will never get in power again

[@byronthomas274]

After working for 48 years and paying into the system, the government gives me a pittance to live on, how will I pay my bills this winter, the companies have already warned us of price hikes. I believe that the government see that not enough pensioners a dying so this is one way of getting the numbers up.

[@user-cm3zn2ph1qq]

Only two months in power for Labour, I am gutted!

[@Fortune-z1i]

If a single elderly person has more than £218.15 per week to live on they cannot claim Pension Credit. It is penury.

[@JanetteGardner]

Why attack people over 66 to fill the government's failure to manage their budget? Shameful behaviour. Fuel poverty will cause deaths from hypothermia

[@meirionowen5979]

TWO-TIER STARMER, YOUR OL' GRANNIE HARMER!

[@leslierowe2337]

Notice how everything the labour party get wrong it's unfortunate

[@Ken-yy9us]

What do you mean, cancelling the Rwanda debacle, cancelling the helicopter contract, confronting the water companies and their CEO's, giving NHS workers free health checks, solving the strikes, starting to look at the house of Lords reform, where they claim over £300 a day in expenses.... those kind of mistakes? Go check what's actually happening and not what you hear in the right wing media.

[@UKProud]

VOTE REFORM!

[@johnhealy5558]

James needs to keep away from Greggs.

[@bazzy63]

and McDonald's and nandos 😅

[@bazzy63]

iv worked out who ate all the pies

[@safeenachoud1903]

😂😂😂😂🤣🤦🏿‍♂️

[@mathewgrover6455]

Well, at least the train drivers will be okay. While pensioners freeze this winter, the trains will still be running

[@sandraoneill4431]

No they won’t they’ll find something to strike for

[@johnsidwell2241]

poor sods only got a rise of £10,00- how on earth will they manage,the pre 2016 pension is about £8,800pa but I'm sure we will cope

[@jonshadow4052]

There pay rise is what pensioners get a year .

[@stephenjon3502]

What’s someone’s wages got to do with the WFA?

[@Dontlikefruit]

They will strike just for thae sake of it. Service won't improve either.

[@CarolineDoull]

We are not a rich country. It’s like India, the poor and the mega rich.

[@MyMargo111]

Come on Labour get a pair and give him a vote of no confidence.

[@robertsmith9810]

the PM righty said how sorry he was for the deaths in the channel will he say sorry for the old people freezing to death in their homes don`t think so , MP`S will still claim the second homes allowance

[@jackspring7709]

Labour is doing this on purpose. The government makes a fortune in taxes every year. Billions sent to Ukraine and new arrivals being housed every day. The money is there for the pensioners, but labour regards old people as a burden on the state. I'm not joking. That's what this is all about.

[@kittyatroyal1565]

Well said that lady!

[@fintamaria2429]

Tax the Wealthy!!!

[@paulinepress3024]

Define wealthy

[@christopher554]

They need too cut benefits for people earning 50,000 a year it was on to a few weeks ago ,totally disgusting.

[@silvasnow3861]

High rate tax payers already pay enough.... Try taxing the wealthy that use all the tricks in the book to pay little to no tax

[@francollins4036]

How odd to see a "Labour" guy who does not give a dam about pensioners dying from the cold.

[@JohnCrowder-js8qz]

The man has cold eyes just like the current prime minister

[@TheKevswife]

Pension credit is a scam. I looked at the form and there is over 200 questions to answer. Forms like this will scare OAPs from filling the forms in. They are making the forms difficult so the OAPs won’t fill the forms in. DISGUSTING.

[@suemlaver]

Plus the time they've got to actually get someone to come full forms in properly is not possible for this year!

[@magnuswalker7957]

I dispare when a labour government are in power. Im 77 so i have seen a few and i don't recall being better of at the end of their time in office.

[@les57]

After 14 years of tory chaos and lies , Labour are a breath of fresh air . its early days things will get better when the mess from the last lot is sorted

[@georgedykes1033]

@@les57 Are you having a laugh the mess we are in today is because of New Labour and the traitor Tony Blair and his cronies.

[@ipinanaz8502]

Well..thank..you..so..much..and..congratulation..to..Labour..voters

[@pinkmustafa2699]

Nope. These people for the most part have worked their whole lives and contributed to the nation. They should be afforded every comfort and benefit possible. It's criminal.

[@robertnewton6454]

1 massive problem is that many state pensioners struggle with it issues and using computers Try doing an online application for pension credit when you are not it savvy

[@brianwalker2696]

Trust ITV Morning News to even ask the question . NO it is not right to pinch money off pensioners to pay for Junior Doctors and Train Drivers pay rises.

[@lindaaih]

Yup, I agree it should be means tested BUT £11k is far, far, too low. Its very unfair particularly as costs are spiralling. This labour party is exactly what i thought they'd be - tories part 2.

[@janetobi2193]

Ruth raises excellent issues about our corrupt system that negatively impacts the very vulnerable.

[@AnnemarieHolden]

No one was moaning qhen the disabled were being targeted

[@staceyvictoria8647]

Because most tory voters are well off over 50's/pensioners that's why 😂

[@roberto0076]

Why are we paying energy bills of mps

[@MaureenSmith-tg2xz]

Winter fuel payment is just once a year paid in November it's something towards heating for winter not a great deal but it helps but how much is it costing the government in heating for hotels for migrants every week every month every year that's where the black hole needs to be sorted out not on pensioners who have paid into this country by taxes and national insurance

[@chrysalis4126]

MPs claim expenses for the heating of their second homes - why didn't they stop that?

[@georginadoll6372]

There are loads of pensioners who are not online who won't claim and they will more than likely die. Pensioners will get depressed and feel like no-one cares. I know this from having interviewed them as a part time job. This is heart breaking.

[@susancraybould3919]

That's because no one cares

[@georginadoll6372]

​@susancraybould3919 unfortunately that is what most if not all of the pensioners I spoke to were saying. One lovely man's wife was having cancer treatment and she needed her body temperature to be regulated at 18 degrees to get well. Their boiler broke in mid Winter and no-one bothered about them for a month so he said they were 'giving up' because no-one cared. Now if pensioners with health problems and circulatory issues need their homes to be at 20 degree heat to not feel the cold the NHS is going to be registering a lot of deaths for the undertakers IF their families can afford a funeral. What happens WHEN families can't afford to bury their loved ones because bills are so high and taxes are coming in.

[@stephenbrierley8122]

James won't be starving this Winter.Old lives matter.

[@andydavies5817]

The big guy defending this probably keeps warm in McDonald's!!

[@jonshadow4052]

Look at the size of Him. He's eating plenty of food🥖🫓🥯🥞🧇🧀🍞🍖🍗🥩🥓🍔🍟🍕🌭🥪🌮🌯🫔 his food for a day , he has enough to keep him warm this winter.

[@dinaworkman306]

Old people will have to pay prescriotions next why have we paid into NI

[@PharmaTroll]

Make Starmer pay for his malice. Select my name for how.

[@dianewray1867]

He and Reeves have both turned out to be heartless and malicious - some of us saw this coming and stuck to our guns. Others registered protest votes, I can see their frustration but not their misguided hopes. It was always going to be this way if Starmer and Co. got in. Toss my name in the hat too!

[@grahamappleyard1825]

And its also wrong with still giving the UK pensioners who live in EU the winter allowance, WRONG, come on Mr Flip Flop get it SORTED

[@bethmcintyre375]

Maybe if the payments for fuel weren't so high the winter payments would not be required. BUT l the Mps will still get all their expenses claw back money there

[@stephenrichards5386]

If they were to extract the fuel under our feet there would be no need for winter fuel payments

[@robdavies68]

It's obvious James isn't starving . . .

[@dianewray1867]

Again - harsh and uncalled for. Off topic!!

[@bronte333]

But fair game when he defends Starmer.😊

[@PeterStevenson-yd2sm]

MPs get there winter payments yet they stop ours never vote labour again I have voted for them all my life

[@Test_Card_Tom]

At the moment its believed almost 1million pensioners don't claim pension credit to which they are entitled. However, if all the additional 1 million pensioners who are entitled to pension credit were to claim it the cost of paying PC (and the WFA) to them would outweigh the amount being saved by the removal of the winter fuel allowance to 10 million pensioners. In other words the government are lying to you.

[@roberttreborable]

If there's a 22 billion black hole, why are we still spending money on foreign aid which we don't have, borrowing money to give away is insanity, Pakistan 480 million, Bangladesh 370 million, Palestine 240 million Yeman 100 million, and this is only a fraction of our foreign aid budget, this money would be better spent at home on the NHS, Social housing, pensioners, plus many other problems.

[@Ed-Struggles]

Wait until Labour impose a 25% tax on pension lump sums. This will be announced at the end of October.

[@SamanthaOhara-r6l]

Can it also be reminded? I'm sorry I keep leaving all these messages that pensioners do suffer with glaucoma. There are some that can't even afford spectacles so they do need this one-to-one guidance and help and regulated areas to make support visits one to one to make the applications.

[@caroleforshaw6287]

Also the pensioners on blood thinners. They feel the cold easy

[@barryfalco8727]

So we have to steal the winter fuel payment from pensioners, but we can afford to spend over 11 billion on overseas net zero aid and inflation-busting pay awards to public sector workers. Talk about poor choices and not having your priorities right.

[@barryfalco8727]

​@johnsigma1 Not just overseas aid, welfare on people who have never worked, 3 or 4 generations of families that have only ever taken and never contributed, illegal migrants and a load of other wasters in society. The point remains the same, however, taking the allowance off people receiving 12k pa, 1/2 the minimum wage is not the way to do it. Not while so many other areas should have been looked at first. As for investment and spending on younger generations, I suspect the investment is significantly more than on the Old Age Pension per capita given the contributions already paid by pensioners. It will certainly be less than the welfare given to people who have never contributed; that would be my start point; that would probably cover the pensions and investment in the young.

[@sbalmer132]

I understand why people are given pay rises ,but nothing will make me think it’s right to give our taxes to other countries while our pensioners starve or get hypothermia.

[@bubbahope243]

Don't pay the gas bill put your heating on full blast and let them take all the pensioners to court it will cost them millions

[@kittyatroyal1565]

And they will like the poor postmaster and mistresses!

[@IsItTrue1]

As long as the part time MPs who have an easy time have their salaries cut then the affluent pensioners should have their winter fuel allowance cut

[@EileenGoehring-lb8hy]

Train driver, Doctor's ????????typical Labour 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@susanthompson5381]

22 billion black hole so why don’t all MP pay there own expenses like rent for there second home, water , electricity , gas , travelling , cars so make mp pay. Then the government will save money from that , save the pensioners from the cold and food poverty

[@stuartjones6924]

One major issue here, and not being recognised, is that this decision and the following debate(s), whether they need the Winter fuel allowance or not, is generating severe anxiety and stress into the population of pensioners who already feel most vulnerable and helpless in terms of having no influence or control over judgements and decisions being made and the possible impact on their lives.

[@richardjames3022]

Where was this in the Labour Manifesto??? That's the Pensioners vote gone back to the Tories. A Labour own goal. I have written to my MP

[@barrywalker3730]

Billions on illegal migration billions on overseas aid billions on overseas aid climate send it abroad who have never paid a penny but take it off them who have paid taxes ni for god sake get a grip

[@meganstewart9062]

No it's wrong end of