Is It Time To Go Solar Energy? Fire Update And Our Trip To HomePro!

In today’s video we give an update on the recent fire in our Thai village. Afterwards, we head to HomePro (Thailand’s Home Depot) where we look at a generator and consider our opinions on if it might be time for us to consider solar power for our home.
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[@johnceragioli9671]

Hi Joe. Good video. I am a retired Architect here in Nevada who has spent time in Thailand (Love it there). Don’t make your decision based on what you’ve seen at that store. Do some further research online, pay the 1000 baht and get better answers. Based on some quick looking, Thailand is one of the best countries for solar. Good luck!!

[@1NickyFan69]

😂😂

[@billweis7638]

Did you ask JJ? He seems like a pretty honest guy.

[@curiousclaus]

should have gone solar from beginning, so don't hesitate

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏. We will definitely do some research beyond HomePro.

[@johnceragioli9671]

@@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774 Hi Joe. Don’t forget to figure in Property Value increase when you are figuring out your return on investment. JJ Should be able to help you with that part of the equation. Here in America, a solar system is worth +/- and additional 4% to the home value. I would imagine in Thailand it is less, likely around 2%.

[@jeffreystecher6565]

Joe regarding the solar and generator talk to your buddy that built the house he probably knows good suppliers and real answers locally to your questions 😉

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Will do!

[@EdPanita-el2no]

nice update Joe, thanks! i built my own solar here in Prachuap a few years ago. Happy with it. Will sell my electricity soon. Still a ROI of around 5-7 years as electiricity is relatively cheap [5 B/kwh]. Maintenance cost is hardly an issue, because there are no moving parts like a generator. Removing bird poo from the panels will cost you 200-500B/year. I can't believe people in US pay thousands of dollars to thoroughly clean panels, while the degradation is around 2-5%. A bit of advice, battery right now does not pay off. Check your daytime use and take an ongrid system with a hybrid inverter [for future battery extension] of 1 phase and maxed at 5kw inverter and panels. Then PEA is happy to buy your excess electricity for 2.2B/kwh for 10 years. For night time use, try to reduce. Like shutting off pool pumps. Insulate your roof [EPS, white ceramic paint]. Add awnings to cover your bedroom outer walls/windows. Add ceiling fans. For brown outs [rare in Prachuap], consider a portable battery backup for your appliances and a hotelroom for a convenient night. I would not want to have a diesel generator for the noise and air pollution, as you don't have many options to place it.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for all of the great info.

[@MisterMitchMM]

HomePro is really one of the only stores I enjoy browsing in. I can't stand malls unless firva specific restaurant or the food court. They sure took care of the fire damage quickly. Thanks for the video, brother. All the best. Mitch 🙏

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

🙏

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[@party999acb]

HomePro is not the place to enquire about Solar & installations RTI will in no way be 10-15yrs on a Solar installation Depends on size of installation but typically RTI 6-8yrs

[@s.c.6367]

Anytime the government, or somebody has to coerce or bribe me to buy something I would question. I like to make my own choices. Thanks for the research.😃

[@MrSean03839]

Autos with air bags, seat belts?

[@marchanson711]

Joe, research Generac, the world leader in emergency full time, full sinewave power. Beautiful integration into the home. They run quietly on diesel, or propane. The system has auto-switching to cut over from power company feed to your live generator feed. Generac is what you would like knowing how you like state of the art.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the suggestion and info.

[@jamesgilhooly1326]

that is is way to go....a lot Cheaper the Solor Panels

[@Chrisarmyvet]

HI Joe, not sure about in Thailand but we got 6.6kw solar and a 13.5KW battery in OZ and it saves us so much, still not got a power bill, still in credit, even though only get 8c per KW feed in here, when it's hot sunny, free aircon, prob heaps cheaper where you are for power, but the ROI makes sense anywhere. take care guys all the best Chris

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you for sharing.

[@GarNelson1]

Another thing to keep in mind is you would only need the batteries to have power when PEA power is out. If you are just using it to reduce your PEA bill, and not to use it for emergency power, those batteries could be added later if you change your mind about emergency power.

[@lilo7019]

take care All the best Another amazing video

[@user-tz6xf9mz4w]

Great show guy's! Enjoy the day 😊!

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏

[@iwin8707]

Great insightful video Joe. Thanks

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@loveit2942]

Great video personally I'd go the generator route remember solar is only as good as the battery back up.

[@dominiquelaurain6427]

Thanks for life update ;-)

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

🙏

[@paulcousins1371]

Great stuff guys,I agree with others consult JJ, do get some quotes, solar panels are a great idea beyond the initial outlay😎🥰

[@dennisgonya4500]

Ask the solar company if their regulator/invertor is RF dirty. Radiate broad spectrum of RF signals. That can cause interference to other services. Designed my own solar system at my ranch and and went down that road because of the spurious signals that fell in the ham radio band. Had to get a clean regulator (No spurious radiation). Heard it on my ham radio. In the radio spectrum I designed stuff all the way up to 20 Gigi-hertz.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the advice.

[@smartbiz888]

Depending on the cost of power, I'd definitely consider solar... Your roof is perfect for setting up a few arrays, and you likely could go 100 % off grid... A lot of channels I follow have done it as they've built their houses in The Philippines... There, brown outs are more common, depending on the location... We're currently building (starting in July) a smaller villa in Tarlac (above Angeles City) on Luzon island in The Philippines, and will do a bigger build on a bigger piece of land starting later this year, depending on closing on the land, etc. Solar for both areas is planned...Payoff is 8 to 10 years, and the materials will last up to 20 years... It's a big outlay upfront, but peace of mind and knowing we can run AC as needed is important (for us)... A generator is also a good idea for a secondary backup. We likely will do that too, at least in the larger build...

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you for your input. Also, congratulations on your new home build.

[@carl7428]

good video and you confirm my opinion about the pay back period ….around 15 years !!!!! Due to that I gave up my solar cell project.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏

[@colleenrodamer9497]

Many blessings from North Texas ❤

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

🙏

[@frankkie3849]

We have the same spaghetti in the Philippines,,amazing how they keep track of the wiring,,take care ,,😊generator may be the best option..😊

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We are definitely looking at generators as well before making any decision.

[@s.c.6367]

From Florida they had huge incentives for solar, govt as always.. Pools, house, etc. So many problems so many issues not worth the headache not to mention the hail. Generator, internal combustion engine can't beat it. Not until they get better I would be cautious but I'm sure you do your research. Good luck. Glad to see they fixed it quickly.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏

[@carleto9597]

Well good luck with your solar energy estimate, hope it works out for you and Gift. Enjoy her mom's visit and your day there in PKK. Take care

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏

[@tampaguy6370]

I really enjoyed this video. I love the price comparison. Joe I think you’re not really that far off with the solar. I would love for the technology to catch up to reality.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏

Hi Joe, from my research over many year-end now finally narrowed it down to an Ecoflow Power station that's always available for power with recharging via a couple of portable or fixed Solar Panel's ......Or from the DC electrical from main's power.......Silent and very reliable.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 definitely an option that we are considering.

[@eeteetravelfreely0001]

Good morning 🌅.. Today..at 9am I m going to introduce you to my audience.. don't worry no copy. Just a Link to this part of the world 🌎 that is down south.N congratulations 🎉🎉🎉 to u both n looking forward 2 your big Day 💐💐💐

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 again. I just now got a chance to watch your livestream 😊

[@mamabear5488]

Their happy because they we're never able to! God bless 🙏

[@Walt-ck5qn]

Hey Joe Gift & Mom! In my opinion, a generator is a better solution to a potential power outage. An 8-10 year ROI makes more sense if possible. Just offering my "two cents"! You're making the right decision! The cost seems "high" even for US standards; but they offer a lot of rebates here. You're right Joe! Happy wife, happy life! Will be married for 50 years in 2026; have possibly learned a thing or two, Hahahahahahaha! Enjoyed the video! Best wishes for a happy productive life. Stay safe

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your advice. I am definitely looking at other options to meet our needs. Congratulations on 48 years of marriage so far, that is just awesome.

[@stevenwest4078]

Hi Joe, l have an off grid house on an island, please look at Honda io generators very quiet, very efficient, and reliable, We looked at solar but $$ didn't ad up . 3 liter's of fuel will run for 12 hours. 3 fridge freezers, and everything we need. All the best to you both

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the info. We will do research before making any decision.

[@theequalizer4875]

Thailand #1.....🇹🇭🇺🇲🙏

[@jamesgilhooly1326]

Geneic Generator is the way to go...

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We are still looking at all options before moving forward.

[@ZYLONZA]

Hello Joe and Gift. I concur with other contributors "Phone a JJ" Hehe, best advice you will get. I was thinking, Joe in the massage chair at the store oh no power cut 😂😂😂, 💡💡💡, make a solar panel for the massage chair for outside in the sun by the pool 😂😂😂 (this idea has a patent pending hehe) OR you could hook up the exercycle and running machine to the generator to get rid of that 500XL you put on in Europe, problem with that is once you are down to XXL no more power, Um Oh Gift 55555. Great video 10 / 10 Keep Well, Stay Safe my friends.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

😂🤣😆

[@MrSean03839]

Welcome to married life!

[@mamabear5488]

Oh yes, just wait!!❤

[@mamabear5488]

Happy wife, happy life ❤🎉😂

[@mamabear5488]

Give one to Mom to bring home❤

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

😊

[@BradleyFordAus]

For a quick and easy solar system you could buy a AP Systems EZ1. They sell them in Thailand for about THB24k Basically it is European equipment, and was designed for people living apartments, hence it is DIY. Basically mount the solar cell somewhere, and plug it into your wall outlet.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the suggestion.

[@vlodo001]

We live in Chonburi and have 10 kw solar panels, 10 kWh battery, backup facilities and sell our excess electricity to PEA. Such a system should cost approximately 550k THB

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the info.

[@quentint8742]

If you get a metal table, you can get a liquid plastic and dip the legs or you can put on a boat zinc anode on it. A boat shop can offer a small wind generator which you could use as a backup source along with some marine grade batteries and an inverter

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your suggestions.

[@LonglingEriksen]

If the power is out only for 2 hours and so, you dont need a generator. Maybe a UPS fro your freezer? Or just put air con on in your car and wait for a wile. Even go to a hotel if it is longer. Solar panels are nice, but you need som years to gain money from them .

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@synovium]

Great video; I recommend you go with EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3 Portable Power Station. The regular price is $3699 US. It is portable, and depending on the model you get, it can give you enough power for the essentials, including the refrigerator. It is chargeable by wall sockets and solar panels. If you're looking for ROI, this is the way to go. Buying a gas generator is noisy and pollutes. At least the Ecoflow is pollution-free. The only catch is finding this for 220V, and I am sure there is an equivalent for Thailand.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the info.

[@brianbarbarich1401]

Thank you for the video. My opinion too much hassle having solar. It seems like in your area the electricity is reliable. Cheers from South Africa. 🙏

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Our pleasure! We are looking into other options as well.

[@johnmitchell2094]

I've had solar here in OZ since 2009 & never cleaned them. The rainfall in Thailand will take care of the cleaning. The ROI on medium solar withou tbattery here is 5 years, a battery is 20 years.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the info.

[@markaustin6144]

Hi Joe and Gift , I think solar panels in the UK not so good as there blocking the sun out here with the chemtrails, I hope Thailand is OK, but here not good, regards Mark, all the best for your wedding next year love your videos amen 🙏

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 so much.

[@marybuchanan1982]

Very informative video..We had the outside Generator until it was stolen while we were away a few hours..I will say, not meaning to be a 'Debbie-downer" The outside generator is terribly loud almost deafening if you run it at night, especially to the neighbors, so I think your best bet is the Generac in-home generator. Our neighbors here at the lake have one. It will come on automatically when you have a power loss then will shut off automatically when your power is restored. You probably know all this info so I wish you luck w/the salespeople that come and give an estimate on Solar panels...til next video stay safe and be happy... Our summers in OKLAHOMA can be extremely hot..so far we've had 100-103 degree heat and it's only June,, Usually hot months are July to September

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the suggestion. Hope it cools down for you.

[@petrsimunek6517]

Payments for solar are less than an electric bill, will never increase and have 20 years warranty plus unused electricity will go back to the grid and you get credit

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@stewartgrant7724]

HI Joe & Gift,Its my pleasure,Well I am afraid I do not know much about all this Solar Pwer Busiess as lioving in the UK our weather is more wet and cold than sunny and warm. You mentioned Joe that you are inn the process of getting quotes and more informaion about this. Just asking would your great friend JJ be able to help you on this I take that maybe he has these installed on his various properties,Anyway wishing you all good luck I know its very confusing.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏. I will meet with JJ next week and also get his opinion.

[@philmcleod111]

Hi Joe ,great content, There must be someone local that makes bamboo furniture, if not there are many places in northern Thailand

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏. Bamboo furniture is also a good option.

[@molonlabe9602]

Personally, I'd go with a portable generator that's big enough to run the refrigerator, (food and medicines) some lights and fans. Can cook on a charcoal or gas grill/burner. Don't need to power a lot of the house, in my opinion. We keep a couple trash cans with water in the bathroom for back up...but you have a swimming pool 😁. Shopee has good generator prices. Yes, some people don't understand want vs need. Easy come, easy go.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the suggestion, we are definitely looking at all options.

[@4KChillVibes.]

Solar is a big investment, but the package the shop was selling is just what they can markup and make the most profit from. approaching a solar installer i can guarantee the package would not need to be as large as you looked at, as the xl package would have left you with an excess of 3.5kw x the average hours of sunshine which would have been 7/8 per day = 24.5 kwhrs batteries were 15 kwhrs giving excess of 9.5kwhrs per day from day one resale back to grid. solar company direct sales take at least 20% to 30% of cost price. and excess sales from day one back to the grid probably giving you a roi of less than 6.5 years. so within your lifetime but the most important thing i would have thought is that in the years to come gift would have zero bills from the running of the house.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@markmorgan8763]

Hey Joe do they have Generac back up generators in Thailand ? You can get them as low as $3800 for a 10 to 14 kw unit here in the states. They're hard wired to your terminal box and automatically kick in. When the power goes out and turns off once powers restored. They run off of gas, kerosene , or natural gas !

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

I’m not sure but will definitely look into all the options.

[@theotheleo6830]

Don't forget that your roof needs to be in good shape as well. Good enough to last at least another twenty years or more. I'm sure that the cost of removing the panels will add to the cost of a roof repair.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thanks 🙏 for your thoughts.

[@unclecraigbaannawk]

and the good thing about a generator is that it will always have a resale value...unlike solar...

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Good point.

[@roberttatum8818]

Hi Joe and Gift check out or contact James about that Ecoflow with Solar panels when he was doing the Chocolate man in a vlog thing. Maybe more cost effective and much cheaper since even if you have two of those batterie generator - 1 for fridge and 1 for AC in case there's ever another power outage.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Will do!

[@tsl756]

Gift = toilet mat - you don’t need, I need 🤪 Gift = beers - you need, I don’t need 🤨 But of course Joe is paying 🤣😂😏 Gift = yes I happy 😂

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

😂🤣

[@robertbritz257]

ROI here in the PNW of US, is 8 to 13 years. Tech will get better so expect the ROI to be better in the future

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@pumcarrillo6065]

Sound good just to run pool and ac , the soler pool pump system, pump and panals , a Simple system a c's maybe a little bit more complicated

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏. We are looking into all options.

[@marcp108]

I love Homepro - it's not the cheapest hardware store, but it certainly has everything and lots of staff, mainly hanging around and not doing much. I think the generator might be a better option and as power only goes off occasionally and electricity generally is very cheap. Towels and sheets are expensive there. Very few options with outdoor furniture unless you go plastic which is not attractive. Maybe there's some way that you could coat them to for protection - maybe worth a trip to a paint shop.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the suggestion.

[@graemeaylward8313]

I can never understand why countries with a lot of sun are so slow in harnessing it's power nationally. Even in UK we had vast solar farms and the Government even subsidised Solar Panels on house rooves, even though the UK has little in the way of sun annually. We sometimes have power outages here in Khon Kaen our "brown outs" when the power is reduced. But they don't last long, 2-3 hours at most, which is inconvenient but doesn't warrant getting a generator or considering solar power. Think very carefully before going down the solar route as your money could probably be spent better elsewhere, especially if you are doing it on the back of couple of hours inconvenience once a year! Thanks for sharing your thoughts and your expedition to HomePro. May God bless all 3 of you and grant you safe travels to and from Bangkok. 😀❤🙏

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your advice. God bless!

[@MM-sf3rl]

The extra wire are mainly communications copper and fiber. What is left behind is called: abandoned in place. 😂

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

👍

[@stuartheald7657]

Don't think you need the xl package. About 10 panels and 5kw battery would take care of pool and aircon. And give backup for those occasional black outs.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@bradprior9701]

Honda or Yamaha Generator the way to go

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@StephenWestrip]

Solar could work well if you aren’t there for a few months AND the electricity buy-back works well. The sun won’t go out when you are travelling 😅

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We will do some more research before making any decision.

[@FOCUSonASIA13]

The Thailand power grid is way better than the Philippines. In some parts of the Philippines, brown-outs are a daily occurrence. I wouldn't build a house in Philippines without solar. Also in Philippines you cannot sell power back to electric company and they will still charge a basic amount if you want to stay connected to the grid. For you guys maybe something similar to Ecoflow, gas-less generator/power bank would work for the seldom times you would need it. They are re-chargeable by solar and can provide enough power to run some appliances and what not until power returns. Some can go for 3-5 days depending on configuration.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏. I am currently doing some research on the Ecoflo Delta pro. This may be a good option for our needs.

[@igoltry1]

Can you get a Jackery, EcoFlow or a Bluetti ? They have portable solar panels with them.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We are currently doing our research.

[@jbranche8024]

Interested in learning more from anyone who has owned a solar system for a couple of years in Thailand. Costs, battery storage system, knowledge and experience of solar installers, grid tied or off grid. I hear PEA pays next to nothing for excess electric

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We will see what info we can gather during our research.

[@generemotebookkeeping6813]

If you have the correct meter hooked up, you can sell electricity back to the power company and have a monthly income from the power you produce that you do not use.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

That is one of the questions that we will be asking when doing our research.

[@BradleyFordAus]

Those Homepro prices are crazy in solar. For example a 10kW system are now typically about THK220k at the lowest

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

I agree ☝️ we are looking at other options.

[@jamesdawson3963]

Hum,,, i am thinking i want enough solar generator and panels to run air-con for in one bedroom for 8 hours for when the power goes out. Again once i move to the Philippines power seems to go out a lot . I need one room thats cool to sleep in

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

The jury is still out for us.

[@allenward3035]

In America that solar system would costs $80,000 to $100,000. I wish I could get the Thailand price

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Wow 😮

[@beet789]

My solar panels in Chicago cost me, after incentives and tax breaks, under 12K USD. Labor in the USA drives up the cost along with all the permits you have to pull.

[@Bruce-on1ux]

Does the pool pump have to run if you put a cover over it when you are away?

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

I believe so. We did check into a decent cover and they cost between 300,000 - 500,000 Thai baht. Very expensive!

[@jbranche8024]

Have you considered a solar battery like Ecoflow Delta Pro tied into the electric?

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We are currently in the research phase but will consider all options available to us.

[@oceanspat]

we added ongrid and also have a battery back up enough for a few hours, plan to change backup batteries to an Off Grid system 6000 watt inverter charger with Solar 6500 kw ,I can also use a 1.8 kw Generator if its needed, how much , so far inverter 28000 thb and found Stand up wall batteries 55 volt/ 300 ah for 38,000 , we just had a black out 3 days ago it went out 3 times for a total 2 hours but with my Echo Flow backup had to switch alot off , at least we had internet and 2 ac units, with new system I designed will take it offgrid 24 hours a day and if generator needed fire that turkey up.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for sharing. It sounds like an option to consider.

[@rudolfdesadeleer7995]

Solar Panel Fires Are on the Rise Fires are being caused by what is known as a DC arc, where high-volatge DC current 'jumps' through the air when two conductors are close enough together. The heat from a DC arc can get so hot, the surrounding material can easily catch fire.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We are currently looking at other options.

[@arnoldcheok7685]

not sure if you considered just installing solar panels and inverter (with option to add the lithium batteries later) price should be manageable and faster ROI.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

We are currently considering all options.

[@arnoldcheok7685]

@@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774 if you need any more information I have a friend in Ayutthaya doing electric works and installing solar panels for companies. Let me know I can give you his contact 😉

[@ewengillies9826]

Initial putlay for solar is crippling. It is a longterm investment and something most don't consider is the maintainance costs associated with it. Read the fine print is my tip. Bushyboy Oz.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your advice.

[@come.on.lets.go.]

I am thinking the number of packages was how many panels on the roof?

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

You are probably right but I will do more research before making any decision.

[@craigdawson7632]

From what you said it sounds like you use 15 units of power a day on average. Panels are well under 60c USD/W, you could get a small system to just offset your normal daily usage. Just load shed during a blackout. Most good Perc Mono panels last at least 30 years. Could run the system separate with a cheap inverter and the setup cost would be minimal, all in one units cost a lot more but it's simple if your going at the smaller end of practical. Grid tied inverters cost a bit as well. Batteries are the main cost at about $600 USD for 12V @ 100ah, so for a system that wont have as much voltage drop and can handle a load 48V is good but that's at least 4 batteries in series. For example 48V, 100ah is 4.8KWh, If you over panel it you will have extra power in peak generation time. For well under 10K USD you could disconnect from the power grid. For about 4.5-5K USD you could offset over half your power bill and have about a 4 hour back up

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the info.

[@craigdawson7632]

@@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774 Here if you want to kick around some ideas 👍 Not a expert but 7.5 years dealing with high load li-ions from china, old mans a sparky. Yet I plumbed for 10 years. Still got a few idea's from my own research

[@ChaweewanGroup]

Take your time and understand the solar tech first, IMO. Especially on the battery side of things there are huge differences in quality, lifetime, warranty, installation standard and ease of use.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thanks for the tips!

[@kentaitchison889]

Get an ais 4g or 5 g portable modem comes with battery pack always have internet

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for the info.

[@mamabear5488]

Go with heavt plastic! No rust just clean!

[@craigdawson7632]

Do you have a cheaper night rate for battery charging? You could order the gear from China, install it yourself get a sparky to tie it to the grid. Then just spray the hose on the panels sometimes, scrub it with a broom and soapy water once a year. My prices below are based on our cost in NZ so it should be a lot cheaper there.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Yes rates are higher during certain times of the day.

[@craigdawson7632]

@@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774 You could work with that to boost your savings and payback period. Very simply solar in generation times, battery until it drops to 10% then use cheap power to top up the min until the next solar gain

[@johnanderson8096]

" Apparently they know what there doing"......."Apparently they know what their doing"

[@irongoatrocky2343]

Joe those Generators are not what you need/want, In the US they have a Natural Gas Powered generator in a small Vault/Locker but unless you have a CNG Tank to power it not the (cooking size either) but again return investment is the issue but best to have a stand by I know Power is cheaper here in Thailand but Solar is a good back up and good to have a couple outlets in addition to what your looking for but if you do it and not use PEA it will pay for itself eventually!

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@Maxwell_86]

Just get from reputable dealer who can service. I have panels and micros in USA for 12 years...with incentives it paid off in 9 years. But while pretty reliable, a few diodes in a few panels went bad. Need to replace the entire panels..and a hassle with dealer who will charge for labor and make sure you get panels that will be around a long time. Mine were no longer made so my replacements are a little off in color compared to originals.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@dueyduey1611]

Hey Joe, the price is too much for solar cell system by homepro. They are many company in thailand offering the solar cell system installation services. My friend's house have installed solar system with only 350,000 baht.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏

[@gotamd]

Solar is great, but it won’t really help when the (grid) power is out unless you also have a battery backup to go with it, and that increases the cost very significantly. I have solar with a battery on my house and it’s honestly great. I don’t even notice when the power goes out. The only things I can’t do are run my central (5 ton) AC or charge my EV. I did have one micro inverter die within the first year after the install, but aside from that the system has required zero maintenance. The panels themselves are supposed to maintain about 80% of their rated production capacity after 20 years. The battery backup is supposed to last at least 10 years before I need new batteries. If you do get batteries, make sure they are LFP/LiFePO chemistry and not NMC chemistry. NMC is what’s used in most of the higher-end cars due to weight/energy density, but it degrades faster when its kept charged to 100% regularly (unlike LFP) and it is much more volatile and likely to start a fire. LFP is a much better option for homes.

[@gotamd]

Also, when they do the battery backup install, there is a very substantial amount of work required to essentially set up a second electrical panel where they duplicate all the circuits that will have backup power. That’s a large part of why all the battery and backup stuff is so expensive, but that part basically lasts forever.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@budmartin3344]

I would suggest to look at your electric bills in the last 3 months to see how many kWh you are using then average out to see about how many kWh you use per day, since you know the pool uses about 1/2 of the power consumption per day then you can estimate how big of the system you will need to run the pool. I use Kill-A-Watt meter to check my appliances power usage before I build my DIY Solar system with battery backup (20kWh batteries), in your case you are not likely to have battery since it is the most expensive part of the system. I got into the DIY Solar system because I need something to do during the Cvd and since we also have rolling black out here in SF bay area, it is very addictive but it is fun to me to keep my brain sharp since I retired in 2020 and I missed my electronics engineering job. BTW, in a grid-tied system, when the utility goes down your solar system will also go down unless you have battery backup.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 the info. We are currently looking at other options as well that will meet our needs.

[@tjmctube]

Don't even try to win the need-want argument.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

🤣

[@beet789]

Home Pro pieces are very inflated. The panels and inverters they use are a bit outdated. My house in BKK has 3 phase electrical service. Last December I had 10Kw 3 phase solar panel system installed with any unused electricity being sold back to MEA or PEA for you. That cost me about 250K THB. I paid by a credit card (US CARD)that gave me 5% back and used a 0% interest over 3 years. I only spend about 6 months there so the other 6 months, its basically selling all the unused energy back. Yes MEA/PEA pays you less per unit but I'm not even home so its like 90% sell back, the other 10% is used by refrigerators, and my 3 car chargers, I put on battery chargers on my cars so the batteries don't go bad on my old combustion cars. We will be adding a 14kW battery system in the near future at a cost of 240K, also with a LPG fueled Generator for a fail safe for 190K. Generacs generators are available in Thailand but at a premium price with is what I am looking at. Its peace of mind. My electrical bill while living there with 3 AC on (12k BTU, 43K BTU ((3 phase air con))and 9 K btu) was about 10K THB but with solar it came down to about 3-4 K THB per month. Well worth it to me.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for sharing.

[@tomaszs9458]

🙏👍😎

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

🙏

[@darryl5826]

Don't forget you have sell back to power company too?

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Something we are looking into.

[@Towball]

If i was you Joe i would talk to JJ about the solar . I know he is a builder but he also is no idiot and if he doesn't know about it i am sure he will know somebody that does no more about solar . And i must say this for Gift stop being a tight ass 😂😂 Gift will have to ask you what that means . You two make me laugh and you and i know you have to tighten the purse strings

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

I will talk to JJ. 😊😂

[@unclecraigbaannawk]

yep...amazing the work that can get done in an emergency...they must be getting special pay so they 'get 'er done'....lol

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

You are probably right.

[@larrygivens931]

Does it hail there? It will take out all the panels when it storms. Be careful!

[@StephenWestrip]

And you think solar panel manufacturers haven’t thought of that?

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Haven’t seen hail in the six years I been here.

[@mamabear5488]

Joe why do thai's keep their washers outside??

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

It works well and Gift prefers to do the laundry outside.

[@redfan80]

Thise ac's cost alot in electric. My bill is 3000 baht cheaper when we dont use it.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

I agree ☝️

[@americaninthailand8760]

Who ever does the budget for Labor Baht spent at Home Pro is insane. Way too many employees.

[@FOCUSonASIA13]

LOL come to Ace hardware in the Philippines, 3 employees for every customer, its ridiculous, they follow you around with a basket

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Other than the cheap labor, I’m not sure why they have so many employees.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Same in Thailand at most outlets. Lol 😂

[@user-vf8oj5gc2x]

Even here in Texas solar isn’t a good deal. Still too expensive + at least 10-12 yrs yo pay for itself. Generator best value for rare power outages. I use a generator. $15K generator will run entire house? Solar panels still too high. Rick

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@s.c.6367]

Question, if Solar was so much better, they wouldn't have to coerce us and give incentives (BRIBS) and rebates, I would simply buy the better product.

[@MFCHRIS75]

If you buy a generator I would advise a dual fuel so it runs on gasoline and LPG (same as your stove top). If you have a suitable size LPG tank you dont need to fool aroud with having gasoline on hand and refilling the generator. LPG doesnt provide the same power rating as gasoline but I'm sure a suitable generator power rating can be found for your needs in case of an outage. Its not like you need to prepare for the zoombie apocalypse.

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Thank you 🙏 for your input.

[@danielcully6047]

Check out a solar generator

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

Will do!

[@mathewhunt81]

Those work good, but i can never find the place to pour the gas in

[@ThomasMcCormack-rq9xg]

2500 cables. What could possibly go wrong?

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

🤣

[@stuartsmith7624]

You can get it much cheaper

[@thaigirlgiftforeignerjoe7774]

I agree ☝️