IS IT WORTH IT? MORryde CRE3000 Suspension & Wet Bolt Kit Installation

[@rvdogfl]

Nice job I did the same thing to my trailer. With the tires on are you going to be able to get to your zerks ok? The plastic bushing are made to last until you pull it of the sales lot. Just like the China bomb tires they put on from the MFG.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Yes I can get to the Zerks. Whoop whoop. So glad that is done and now I can grease the suspension. Take Care!! // Sean

[@craigburns6967]

Thank you for a very thorough walkthrough on this issue and one I will be performing. It’s great you have the same trailer!!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much. Glad i could help. 👍

[@rambiltlaurel7954]

Hey ourVision Nomadic Living, I just found this video of yours today and I like to express my appreciation. Thank you very much for a great installation instruction. I'm 67 years old and I think I'll be able to do exactly what you did. Thank you again!!!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Your most welcome. Thank you for watching. I am glad you found value in the video. I have a number of other maintenance and modification videos on my channel you may find helpful as well. Please consider subscribing and following our journey. Take Care and Safe Travels!! 👍🍻 Sean

[@mattbilodeau8603]

I just upgraded my cre 3000 to the heavy duty shackles. Keep your extra bushings, the top center ones on both sides all but feel out with a third of it worn away (brass/ bronze whatever they are). I think I have about 15,000 miles on them. So you will need to check them down the road. The two side ones that grab the leaf springs are still in very good shape. I hope that everything will last longer now that they are wet bolts. Good job brother!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hey Matt, thanks, I do carry the spare bushings. I actually just replaced all the leaf springs while we were in Texas and because of ordered a new heavy shackle kit so I could install new bronze bushings in all the leaf spring eyelets. I didn't end up replacing the CRE 3000 as it was still in great shape even with all the miles we have put on it since this install. I was pleasantly surprised considering how worn out the original Equiflex equalizer was as seen in this video. Safe travels my brother. 👍

[@ThomWalbranA1]

he did not mention it but it does in the instructions, after replacing the suspension parts you should get the axles aligned. It is a pain in the ass and takes 2 guys with 2 tape measures a few days, or a shop an hour.

[@artillerybuff2000]

Big thumbs up! I am getting ready to install the same heavy duty shackle upgrade to my 2021 Raptor triple axle trailer today. Had one shackle tear through after only a few trips. It should be criminal for them to build trailers using these cheap 1/4" thin soft metal shackles and plastic bushings! Can you imagine if cars or trucks were made this way? Come on man! So after watching several videos like this one I've decided to install all my wet bolts so I can grease them from the middle while rolling around on a creeper underneath, should be a lot easier access. Also, it's important to index the bolts so that the lube holes are facing sideways and not directly up or down to make it easier to pump grease into them. Otherwise the weight of the rig resting on the bushing could block them off making it more difficult to pump the grease in.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much. Good luck with your project. 👍🍻 Sean

[@bobmartens1089]

Amazingly enough 2011 TT about 20,000 km just changed out to wet bolts and Dexter Easy Flex and plastic bushings were in need of replacement. But not as bad as yours by a long shot was pretty amazed. Still a great upgrade

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching & commenting Bob. Safe travels to you. 👍 Sean

[@Wentruss]

Great video! You explained everything so well, and your camera angles were spot on. You also made it look easy! I would have loved to see how you elevated and secured your rig before you did this work.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much Russ, glad you found value in the video. First I hooked up the rig to my truck (just for safety sake). Then using a bottle jack under the frame right behind the RR wheel, I raised the frame until the RR tire was off the ground. I placed a jack stand under the frame and removed the tire. Then I lowered the trailer until it was supported on the frame with a jack stand. Then using the bottle jack I did the same with the RF tire. Then I moved over to the left side of the rig and did the same thing. In effect once all four tires were removed the rig was being supported by jack stands under the frame. with the added safety feature of having the rig hooked up to my tow vehicle. This allowed me to float the axles while doing the suspension work with the two floor jacks. I hope this explanation helps. 🍻 Sean

[@williamdyes5973]

One of the best morryde 3000 install videos that I've watch ty

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much, and thanks for watching! 👍 Sean

[@mnmn926]

Excellent video. I'm going to do this mod soon on a 2021 new 5th wheel due to experiencing issues with the bushings on our previous camper. Your idea of hooking up to the truck is great as I've been stressing on how to get it safely off the ground.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Mark, Thanks for watching and commenting. Good luck with your install. 👍🍻 Sean

[@oneinten]

Thanks for your video. We just purchased a 2021 eagle 321. Think I will get them done next "spring". No pun intended.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching. We had just over 17,000 miles on our rig when I changed ours. So unless there are a bunch of miles on your rig I would think you should be OK. But I do highly recommend the upgrades. I have been very happy with them. Safe Travels!! 🍻 Sean

[@cnjsharp2]

Just ordered mine Trailer is 18 months old, I bet plastic bushings gone after 2100 miles. Thanks for the video.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching and commenting. Good luck with the installation. 👍 Sean

[@cnjsharp2]

Wishing I knew the size of the zirt, so I could get grease gun to fit, first time 😉

[@cnjsharp2]

Finished in 4 hours, start to finish! Text drive is tomorrow. You need a couple jacks and a couple stands to maneuver the bolts on far ends bc of stress from center piece. MTF

[@TraconWizard]

Nicely done. I also have zerks facing out (my preference). Buy some zerk caps & a lock-n-lube 90-degree fitting. Makes job easier, therefore you'll do more often.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much. I made this video back in the spring of 2020. In March 2022 I ended up replacing all my leaf springs due to a broken one. At the time I went ahead and put in new wet bolts and this time put the zerks on the inside. Safe travels!! Sean

[@proceedingonwardinamerica]

Great job plus the paint job looks great. Now nothing but smooth ryding here on out

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks you two. I was very glad to get that job done last spring. We have put over 10,000 miles on the rig since then. As you saw, the plastic bushings the factor installed were shot. I highly recommend installing the wet bolts at the very least. Take Care and Safe Travels!! 👍 Sean

[@jimmackell211]

Very good explanation. Plan on doing this in the spring and you've made my job easier!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching and commenting Jim. Glad you found the video helpful. 👍😁 Sean

[@marckruse2181]

Great job and a good way to keep your RV around for another 17k miles. The new Fords will keep a log for each trailer for you in case you are getting tired of keeping your own log. We have a travel trailer with torsion beam axles and the suspension is still in great condition after 17k miles. I wonder why not more RV companies use these?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I suspect the answer to your question is cost. I don't mind keeping the log, guess I'm old school that way. Besides, it's concrete documentation that when the time comes can be provided to the next owner. And.....well I do like my Dodge, Ford hasn't offered a standard transmission in a truck since 2010. Take care and safe travels!! 👍

[@fiveinitaly]

Awesome!! 👍👍 great upload. Ciao from italy🇮🇹🇮🇹

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thank you so much for watching. 🍻 Sean

[@georgevg5720]

Muchas Felicidades Joven Por Su Canal. Saludos Cordiales Desde Mazatlán, Sinaloa, México. ..

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks George, glad you found value in the video. Saludos Orlando, Florida 🍻 Sean

[@local378]

At 10:46 the image of a jack holding the load while you work on it and not centering the jack over the blocks would have gotten me fired when I moved machinery for a living.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for your concern, but what you don't see is that the RV was hooked up to the 5th wheel plate to my truck, with both front landing gear grounded, also the rear landing jacks on the rv were also grounded. Should I have taken the time to better center the jack, probably. In any event, I was not working for anyone, captain of my own ship so to speak. Thanks for watching and safe travels. 🍻 Sean

[@local378]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving I got ya, it was just a gut reaction to what I saw, carry on.

[@bobandtams]

You made it look so easy🤔 Thanks for sharing how to do you. Stay safe👍

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching and commenting!! Over all it really wasn't a difficult job, other than all "up...down....up....down, and kneeling on the cement pad". After tackling this type of project I remember I am not 20 anymore. Take care you two!!!///Sean

[@bobandtams]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving We are all getting older😢

[@robertstock9912]

Really glad you painted your wife will be so proud of you oh by the way good job nice to have the right tools also 👍

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Ya, the first thing Angie asked me was, "did you paint the frame, it looks horrible since we came back from Texas"....."yes dear". LOL.

[@kristinainman1517]

Great job! I hope they last well for you on many more adventures.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

I hope so too! Thanks Kristi!!

[@davidbranson1491]

Great video. Thank you!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much. 🍻

[@davidelam9497]

Great video, very helpful to see how you exchanged that part.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I am glad it was helpful. Take Care!! // Sean

[@OurCrazyRV]

Great job on the video it was very helpful.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thank you for watching & commenting. Glad you found the video helpful. Safe travels! 🍻 Sean

[@robh063]

Great Job! Between this video and the leaf spring video, I now have the confidence to tackle these jobs so thank you very much for making the videos and I have become a subscriber! One question though..Do you have to jack up both sides of the trailer and remove all 4 tires or is jacking one side and doing the work and then jacking the other side to change out things going to be fine?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and being a part of our journey. As you saw in this video I jacked up the entire trailer. In the leaf spring video I raised the trailer to where it was almost off the ground, then did one leaf at a time. Honestly the easiest way would to get the trailer totally off the ground, that was the suspension would be totally relaxed making it easier to "float the axles" around when reasembling. Again, thanks so much for watching. Good luck with your project and safe travels. Sean

[@azcharlie2009]

Since you did this 4 years ago, I wonder if you still have this system, and how is working?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

@@azcharlie2009 In Feb, 2023 I discovered a cracked leaf spring. I did a video showing how I replaced all 4 of the springs. As I wanted bronze bushings I ordered another wet bolt kit. The CRE 3000 was still in good shape so I didn't replace it, the shackles were also still in great shape. 👍

[@46fd04]

I did this upgrade in April 2022. 13 months later, I have 3 zerks (out of 14) that won't take grease. I have to pull out the 3 wet bolts to see what's happened.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Sorry to hear that, how frustrating. I wonder if you could just replace the Zerks? Have you contacted MorRyde to see if they might send you replacements where it's been only a year?

[@46fd04]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving I took all 3 zerks out of the wet bolts. They work fine. I suspect the installer didn't position the wet bolts correctly. I will find out when I remove them for inspection.

[@riverking4u]

Nice job, great video!!! I have these on my 2019 rv. I have issue with the main carrier bolt on one side. I have never been able to grease it!!! ran into a dealer at an rv show, he said it was installed wrong at the 12 o'clock position!!! The bolt have only on grease hole, all the weight and pressure blocks the hole. He said always mark bolt on the zerk side and install in the 9 and 3 o'clock poition. Hope this is some information for you. Thank you.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks, yes I failed to share that information during the install. The instructions do indicate to put the bolts in so the holes for the grease are at the 9 and 3 position. Thanks for watching and commenting. 🍻 Sean

[@riverking4u]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving Thank you, keep them coming for us do it yourselfers. Dealers are such rip-off artists!!! Thank you again for such a fast reply. God Bless!!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

@@riverking4u You bet, yeah, the hourly rate at any shop now is crazy. Safe Travels!!

[@bishopgeorge1333]

Great job, now I need to just grease my fitting so do I need to lift the tire off the ground to do that?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi, thanks so much for watching. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. You ask a great question. Not sure it's necessary to lift the tire off to grease the bushings, but I do because I grease them when I repack the wheel bearings . 👍

[@bishopgeorge1333]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving Okay thank you sir.

[@elisimracing]

Very good explanation. How often do you re-grease the bolts?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. I have greased them last fall. So about 6 months after I installed them. In the next few weeks I plan on repacking the wheel bearings and will grease them again when I do so. 👍

[@elisimracing]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving thanks for the info. I’m going to change my cast oem equalizer and I’m adding wet bolts and heavy duty shackles like you did. The video will help me a lot.

[@Masterchief68a]

Makes me wonder why manufacturers don’t do this to begin with! My new Jayco fifth wheel is coming with the CRE 3000 and wet bolts!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

They should, I wish mine would have. The flimsy plastic bushings sure don't last long and I believe contribute to lots of issues down the road. I would assume they don't to cut down on those costs. Thanks for watching and commenting!! Sean

[@JavierPadron]

In my brain you don't grease the copper sleeves just the bolts. You want them to stay in place when in leaf springs. Just my thoughts on this video and love that your inspiring others to get dirty do there own work.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching & commenting Javier. 👍

[@DennisWintjes2]

Thanks for sharing. Why did you choose the CRE3000 vs the CRE4000? I am doing this soon too. Like 1K+

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Dennis, great question. I went with the 3000 because I had already reinforced my axle hangers and didn't feel the need for the cross member supports that are available with the 4000. Thanks for watching. Good luck with your install. 👍 Sean

[@robertfoster8500]

Now that it's been 2 years, have you had any suspension issues?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Robert, none at all thankfully. I pulled off the hubs and packed the bearings on May 17 of this year. Everything looked great. Shot some grease into the wet bolts while I was at it, and inspected the MorRyde CRE, Rubber pads in it still look great. The total mileage on the trailer in May when I did this was 36,349. (when I saw your post I grabbed my log book) 🍻 Sean

[@robertfoster8500]

Sorry, one last question. Did you or any prior owner reinforce the spring hangers or did they come like that from the factory? It appears more steel has been welded on to them on the front, back and sides. I’m especially interested because I had a 2015 Open Range 427BHS and suffered through two separate incidents of the rear most hangers breaking off at the weld lines. Mine were not reinforced. Thanks

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

@@robertfoster8500 No problem. Angie and I purchased the trailer new in Sept. 2016. I had Angie's cousin reinforce the hangers in 2018 after seeing a number of rigs having issues with the hangers, specifically the Highlandridge 2017 388RKS models, that spurred a recall on those units. We were planning on taking the rig to Alaska (We had plans to be camphosts at the Deadman Lake Campground south of Tok from May 18-July 10 in 2020, but we cancelled that when Covid hit and shut down the U.S. Canadian Border. I had Jeremy reinforce the hangers as a preventative issue. I felt it was better to have him do it, and have an issue in the middle of now where.

[@ddttcv]

I was wondering what kind of Equalizer was on the trailer? Were they not functioning well?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

It came with the Lippert Equiflex, as you could see in the video, it was worn out. Thanks for watching. 👍

[@ddttcv]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving Interesting, I have been waffling between the CRE3000 and the Equiflex.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

@@ddttcv I did this install in the spring of 2020, in Feb, 23 I discovered a cracked leafspring. I replaced all 4 leaf springs, as such I ordered a new wet bolt kit to get the bronze bushings for the new leaf springs. The CRE3000 was still in great shape. Here is that video you might be interested in. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpjdaqGXdputd9k

[@ddttcv]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving Thank you!

[@rvfamilylife]

When you say, "and painted." what did you do? I've been concerned about rust and wondering to what extent I need to work on the rust on the undercarriage and springs.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi, thanks so much for watching & commenting. I just spayed it with some black Rust-Oleum. I need to do it again. 😁 Take care & safe travels. 🍻 Sean

[@edrabbitt1199]

would this work on a cargo trailer with 26 in springs

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

The leaf springs on our 5th wheel are 26" so I would suspect so. Thanks so much for watching. 👍

[@craigburns6967]

What Mor Ryde part # did you use for your 22MLE?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Craig, I am not exactly sure what 22MLE is in reference to. My trailer is a 346FLR. In any event, if your asking what part number I used for the MorRyde Shackle kit, it was U012-016. I hope that helps. If not let me know. Thanks so much for watching. 🍻 Sean

[@craigburns6967]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving Thanks, Sean. I thought you were performing the upgrade on a Grand Design 22MLE.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

@@craigburns6967 Ah. Morryde makes 2 different shackle kits. If you have the Lippert Correct Track, which has the yellow adjustment plates on the hangers you will need U012-029. If your RV does not have those yellow adjustment plates (like mine) you would use the part number I wrote in the previous response. 👍 Sean

[@stevenwiggins1695]

Thanks for taking the time to produce this. What made you decide on the 3000 vs the 4000?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. That is an excellent question. Previously I upgraded my tires from the E rated westakes to G Rated (14 ply) Samson's. I decided at that time to go a size bigger tire as well. So I am running 285's instead of 265's Doing this narrowed the gap between my two tires. Which has not been an issue. However putting the 4000 on would have allowed for additional movement, and possible under certain situations allowed the two tires to come in contact with each other....so....I went went with the 3000. Take Care and Safe Travels!!! /// Sean

[@georgelehman4970]

i have a doo little trailer the back wheels keep getting worn out the driver backside always goes bad on the inside I just put new axles on the trailer last year for some reason they keep going bad I put everything new leaf springs bushings and the center part do you think the cre 3000 would help ? i see they have a 35 inch and a 33 inch wheel base whats the difference in them and will they help tire wear?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi George, thanks so much for watching. First let me say that installing the CRE 3000 in my opinion will not solve the wear issue you are experiencing. The benefit of installing a CRE 3000 is with the rubber insulators it helps moderate road "shock" while traveling down the road. Basically the rubber insulators absorb some of the impact that happens when you hit a pothole... or are traveling down a rough road. The difference between the 35 and 33 inch wheel base has to do with how far the tandem axles on the trailer are, and so you know which CRE Equalizer fits your particular application. I am sorry to hear your having issues with the wear, even after replacing your axles. I would suggest taking the trailer in for an alignment, it sounds like even though you have all new parts, something is not aligned correctly. Again, thanks for watching and I hope my answer helps. Sean

[@rodneydrake6595]

Hello, thanks for your video. I saw a comment asking if you had the spring hangers reinforced. You replied that you had. Did you happen to do a video of that process/what was added? I am planning this same upgrade and would want to reinforce things at that time. The thin factory spring hangers and the thin frame material makes me feel like I am towing a time bomb. I have been wondering about removing existing hangers and having thicker ones made. Then I realized that the wet bolts wouldn't be long enough. I wonder if MorRyde makes longer wet bolts. I will be calling their customer support as part of my preperations. Thanks again!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Rodney, thanks so much for watching and commenting. I did not make a video when my wifes cousin reinforced the spring hangers. I did that before I started our YT channel. My wifes cousin Jeremy is a master welder and for many years worked as a fabricator at a trailer manufacturing company. Shortly after we purchased our rig in 2016 I took our rig to him an had him reinforce the hangers. Sorry I cant be of much help to you there. I have put over 20,000 miles on our rig since I did this upgrade a couple years ago and I have been very happy with it. Safe Travels! Sean

[@Msrverpilot]

Great job Dude. I'm gonna swap mine out shortly , I haven't got very many miles on mine, BUT I've heard of plastic failing after 5K miles, I have about 6K on Mine Now..

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. And thanks for the 👍. I would certainly say it was money well spent. I am so glad I finally got it taken care of. Good luck with your installation. Take care and safe travels!!

[@AlanMiller-o2n]

The title of your video starts with "IS IT WORTH IT?" But your video was focused on the installation, so I don't think you answered that question. There was no commentary on any performance issue beforehand or any benefits of doing the install. Should I do this to my trailer with only 2,000 miles on it? If so, why? Is it worth it to do this?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Alan, at 2:19 in the video I demonstrate how worn the shackles are prior to removing them, at 3:13 after removing the stock shackles I do a side by side comparison to the new heavy duty shackles, at 4:37 I remove a plastic bushing, show how worn it is, and talk about how I think it's ridiculous that these trailers come with plastic bushings instead of greasable bushings, after the install I again show how worn out the parts were that I removed, and how relieved I was at finally getting that job done. Sorry if you felt my showing and demonstrating, not only how worn out the stock parts were, but how it's my belief that using plastic bushings instead of using greasable ones is ridiculous. Was it worth it? Absolutely. Thanks for watching and letting me know your thoughts Sean

[@JohnSmith-qj4cf]

How much do they cost thks

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi John, thanks for watching. I ordered the wet bolt/shackle kit off Amazon, it was about 100 bck. The CRE3000 kit was around 150.00 bucks. So total it was less than 300 bucks. There are links in the description of the video for the parts. 👍

[@philraymiller4299]

The particular brand/kit you're installing, what makes it extraordinary from just simply replacing the original one?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Phil, great question. To be frank there may not be much difference at all between CRE3000 and the Equa-Flex. However as you saw in the video the Equa-Flex was worn out, and the plastic bushings were shot. Adding the grease-able bushings and replacing the Equa-Flex was needed and I just decided to go with the MoRyde parts. I have put about 8000 miles on the rig so far. It will be interesting over the next year to see if the CRE suspension will outlast it's predecessor or will need to be replaced as the mileage racks up. One thing is sure. I know the bronze grease-able bushings are in much better shape than those flimsy cheap plastic bushings the factory installed. 👍 Sean

[@keithast7949]

Did this lift the camper at all? I’m needing a little more lift on the rear of my camper for it to ride level. Thank you

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

No it didn't lift the rig. Thanks for watching band commenting. 👍 Sean

[@WTLowery82]

Great video! It did hurt my heart that you didn't use an impact removing all the old stuff. Lol But on a serious note, are the replacement nuts locknuts?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi WT, thanks so much for watching and commenting. Sorry I didn't use my impact tools, but that would have required me to drag my air compressor out of the garage, besides, using my hand tool helped me get in some much needed exercise. 😀...LOL. In answer to your question, the nuts supplied by MorRyde are flanged lock nuts, they are not nylock nuts, but they are lock nuts. Take care. 👍🍻 Sean

[@okiedoke6373]

It's been a year how many miles have you put on the trailer and what is the state of the current suspension system

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

HI Robert, thanks for watching. I just added it up. Since I did the install I have put 10,894 miles on the rig. So far it is holding up well. Thanks for watching. 👍🍻 Sean

[@robertfoster8500]

Sorry, one last question. Did you or any prior owner reinforce the spring hangers or did they come like that from the factory? It appears more steel has been welded on to them on the front, back and sides. I’m especially interested because I had a 2015 Open Range 427BHS and suffered through two separate incidents of the rear most hangers breaking off at the weld lines. Mine were not reinforced. Thanks

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Robert, we purchased our rig new in Sept. 2016. Shortly afterward I had my wifes cousin reinforce the spring hangers. He is a professional welder. I did so as a precaution after seeing a bunch of posts showing failures, specifically on the 2017 388RKS models.

[@zackmitchell5899]

Maybe one day I will upgrade mine....Maybe you can help when the time comes lol.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

I have to say, the money I spent was well spent. It needed it and I am looking forward to having grease-able bushings. Thanks for watching and commenting!!

[@Weak_juan]

Did you have to hammer the bolt into the hanger so the spline seats? I hammered like a mad man and still can't get it to seat. So I just put the nut on and put 45ftlb.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

I did not hammer the bolts. I just torqued the nuts down and it seated the bolt into the hanger. 👍

[@Weak_juan]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving i did that but there's still a little gap. I reread morrydes instructions and it doesn't say to hammer it. I think I should be ok. Hopefully.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

@@Weak_juan 👍

[@joemac816]

But,does it ride better or not?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching and you ask a great question. I honestly can't say if the new parts made it "ride better". It certainly safer having replaced the worn out stock parts, and having the grease able bushings should certainly extend the life of the parts. 👍

[@georgemalek6601]

Great to learn from your experience before I replace springs on my 2011 travel trailer. Question about replacing that equalizer that was on the original suspension. Mine has same but I thought it was a better alternative to the cast triangle bracket. Why did the Equa-flex need replacing? Thx

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi George, the Equa-Flex was just worn out. The bushing in it were shot as you can see from the video I show at the end. Thanks so much for watching. Good luck with your project.

[@LivingtheSilverLife]

OK. Think we could do this. Thanks.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. It means a lot!! Take Care and Safe Travels!!

[@joedoakes8307]

DID , you check each spring spring pack to SEE , IF any of the leafs had cracks in them ?

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching and commenting. 👍 Yes, I checked the springs. Although rusty they were fine. We have put almost 2000 miles on the rig since I did this in May. Just a few weeks ago my father in law and I installed both kits on my in-laws 2017 348RLS as well. 👍 Still can't believe these parts are not standard on all trailers. Take care and safe travels!! 👍 Sean

[@libertybaptistchurch7161]

Thanks for the video. Question..Did the trailer height remain the same? I heard that the Morryde raises it and the other the brands lower it. Let me know. Thank you.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting. In answer to your question, the CRE 3000 did not change the trailer height. It is actually one of the reasons I went with it instead of the 4000. I had considered the 4000 but I had previously put slightly larger (with a higher load rating) tires on the rig The larger tires narrowed the gap between the two tires and I was concerned that putting the 4000 on (which increases the suspension travel) would narrow the gap even further and potentially create an issue where the tires may have rubbed when going over very uneven ground. Take Care and Safe Travels!!! 👍😀 Sean

[@HitchUpAndTow]

Interesting and informative, thanks for sharing🙂 Mark & Coral

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much you two!! 👍 // Sean

[@riverking4u]

I just can't get them to accept grease!! The main and spring bolts!!!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

I'm sorry your having issues. Is it possible that the grease zerk is plugged and not allowing grease to flow thru it? You may need to reach out to Morryde and see if they may have any suggestions.

[@RVLivingYet]

Im getting ready to do this to ours, how long do you plan on keeping the leaf spring? No thread lock on the bolts? Thanks

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

When I was planning this project I thought about ordering new leaf springs, but after looking at them they appeared fine. (albeit a bit rusty) I will keep my eye on them and if they begin to flatten I will replace them. The instructions didn't mention putting any thread lock on them, and where the bolts are shouldered...and torqued, I imagine that is why, so no, I didn't put any thread lock on them. So far I am still very happy with this project, and having the ability to grease the parts is a big peace of mind. Thanks so much for watching and commenting!!! Take Care and Safe Travels....Sean

[@RVLivingYet]

@@ouRVisionnomadicliving the only reason I asked about the thread lock was our last travel trailer we had the leaf springs replaced by a shop and luckily I caught it but the nuts where coming loose and almost fell off... so I figured thread lock is a good idea.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

@@RVLivingYet Its probably a good idea. :)

[@juliojames5986]

Extra gusseting, braces welded on frame and spring bracket hang down....wonder why and when ? Thanks

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Julio. I had my wife's cousin (he worked for many years as a fabricator at a trailer manufacturer) add the additional support to the shackle hangers after seeing a number of posts where people had experienced problems. I just wanted to avoid possible issues myself. 👍 A few hours of preventative work to possibly save hours of frustration at some point down the road. Thanks for watching and commenting, and good eye. 😁 Sean

[@frankwolf9187]

How do you know if need 33 inch or 35 inch. Also do you know what difference is between 3000 and 4000?

[@frankwolf9187]

Thanks for sharing. Still undecided if want to tackle this myself. Yet. But truly appreciate it.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Here is the link to the qualification guide showing what measurements you need to determine if you need the 33 or 35 inch. As I understand it the 4000 gives 1 more inch of suspension travel, and it requires the use of 1 or more cross members when used. Thanks for watching and commenting. www.morryde.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/CRE3000-Qualifier.pdf

[@frankwolf9187]

ouRVision nomadic living thank you!

[@mediocrity9574]

The CRE3000 is rated for 8000lb axles. The SRE4000 is rated for 7000lb axles.

[@okiedoke6373]

You're talking about who puts plastic bushings in that's the selling point for that unit I'm studying suspension parts a client has a trailer that he wants some longevity out of the suspension he spent thousands in the last 2 to 3 years the more studying I do it looks like I'm going to go with Hendrix they do truck and trailer equipment and it seems to be of a lot higher quality

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Robert, Honestly I have no idea how the selling point of a trailer would be plastic/teflon bushings. I am sure that Lippert puts plastic bushing in because they are cheaper than putting bronze bushing in. In any event, thanks for watching and I hope you found value in the video. Good luck and safe travels!! 🍻 Sean

[@ThomWalbranA1]

wait at 14:50 + you tighten the rear one with the leaf on the bottom side which is a bitch to correct. You then cut to the finished job, no mention of that issue or what you needed to do, acting like it was nothing.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching. As mentioned in the video, I then did the other side. Your correct in that I didn't show raising or lowering the trailer before or after doing the work. That said I didn't have any issue with that leaf spring moving up into the "correct" position. That video was done 4 years ago. In Feb, 2023 I replaced all 4 leaf springs due to a crack in the front right leaf spring. Here is that link if your interested. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpjdaqGXdputd9ksi=-xZvDPfimhprfg2F

[@johnp2186]

Great in depth video, much thanks. I'm currently doing the same install and ran into problems getting the knurled bolts to set into the hangers. Did you use the ball joint press there as well? tried using a C clamp, a 2.5# dead blow hammer and lastly a impact gun, which ended up stripping the threads on the bolt. Safe travels

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi John. I'm sorry you had issues. When I put it back together I just torqued the nut to 50 foot pounds.

[@plumcrazy9842]

4:57, THAT, would be those wonderful folks at Lippert trailer frames. The biggest POS factory frame supplier for all those JUNK trailers made in Indiana! That's who! #Northwoods Mfg is better! AKA Arctic Fox Trailers. Mine came with grease zerks from the factory!

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks for watching and commenting. Sure would be nice if they all came with greaseable shackles. 🍻 Sean

[@m4steele]

From my understanding the 3000 has a higher weight rating then the 4000.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Hi Max, thanks so much for watching and commenting. I had not heard that. I would imagine that in formation is on their web page, or listed in the specifications information. In any event, take care and safe travels!! Sean

[@mediocrity9574]

The CRE3000 is rated for 8000lb axles. The SRE4000 is rated for 7000lb axles.

[@azcharlie2009]

It just blows me away how cheaply travel trailers are made! Considering the state of our roads, particularly the interstate highways which are a complete disgrace, travel trailers need to be built with a more robust suspension system. Even the CRE3000 system is inadequate, unless you just drive 20 miles or so to camp. As long as trucks are allowed to pound our interstates to pieces, long distance travelers are going to face road damage to their rigs.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

I agree. Roads are horrible and they put these trailers together with staples and glue for the most part. The reality is that a vast majority of trailers only get towed a few times a year by weekend warriors so the manufactures do not put much into them.

[@storminnorman4620]

Have you heard of impact wrenches 😂

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Yup. 😁

[@DesmondsDonders]

I hate plastic bushes.

[@ouRVisionnomadicliving]

Thanks so much for watching and commenting!!! Out with the old plastic bushings...in with new grease-able one. Take Care!!