Is It Worth It To Buy A Zendikar Rising Commander Deck For Magic: The Gathering?

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[@sammeakin3584]

Well, Mr. Proffessorson, you are an odd fellow, but I must say, you steam a good ham.

[@numberoneappgames]

Nice community reference.

[@CardswithMichael]

🤣

[@Paulthored]

Actually makes me feel like buying these things... Edit: I actually bought a few copies of the brawl faeries deck, just for copies of cards I wanted. Sold the arcane signet's & extras to make most of the value back

[@sammeakin3584]

Hoooly crap Senpai noticed me! Hey prof- that comma goes on the other side of the "but" right?

[@RDMANGLEYT]

Like the one on the food token?

[@ericburnett8163]

That "oh, that's the price for two?" bit so got me. I was literally looking at the set in my cart and was just so confused LOL

[@jbama82]

Yo, remember when Prof went bald for a cause? Now he has his luscious locks back! Congrats on that, sir. :) Haha

[@GlichCentral]

Prof should upload a new video with him bald and not mention it at all and let people speculate if he shaved or not. No one will know!

[@AngeloRosales64]

I was just thinking about that lol

[@RoksonixUA]

Prof is in a such a good mood in this video. Love to see him like that. WotC, please, continue with good products so this smile is more frequent on this channel.

[@EriqT]

Well that didn't last long.

[@samuraiwarrior87]

Walking dead secret lair enters the chat.

[@elipetrou9308]

HAHAHA

[@somedudeontheinterwebs45]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHA no

[@rfnd7747]

extra spicy today, aren't you Prof?

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

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[@cesarnono13]

Way too late to the party with this review

[@spechtigpc8389]

First of all, great review about these decks. I really enjoy this series of "Is it worth it to buy...". Your guide on Spelltable is a big contribution to the community in times of corona-quarantine, I tried it and had A LOT of fun playing vs. new decks other than my playgroup. Keep up the good work! Greetings from germany :)

[@gangrel1234]

So much fun

[@Ragzmuena]

Probably also worth mentioning is that these Zendikar Rising Commander decks come with a deck box that can actually fit a fully sleeved commander deck.

[@jueves21hector]

I was actually looking for that information, thank you! :)

[@PhyreSpore]

Wait wHAT!? That's cool!

[@bisowa8883]

@@PhyreSpore paper deck box

[@PhyreSpore]

@@bisowa8883 It's still cool that it holds sleeved cards. Part of the reason I don't sleeve many of my decks is because I'd have to also buy new boxes that can fit them. So even if it's cardboard, being able to fit a sleeved deck is very nice!

[@bisowa8883]

@@PhyreSpore Yeah I know, I mostly use them for dices though because they wear out quickly

[@Tarkov.]

"May I see?" If WOTC keeps making $20 precon commander decks (of this quality) they're gonna put Commanders Quarters out of business.

[@Cinomod6066]

Pretty much lol buy one of these for 20. Spend the next 30 to 80 just upgrading it lol. I allready have an extra oracle of mul daya sitting around for the lands wrath one lol

[@dyciefisk2535]

I hope this is the norm, as I would prefer 2 of these at that price per main set rather than 4-5 once a year at twice the price each.

[@christopherarrowsmith7540]

No, they're not. Because it'll bring prices down and Mitch will be able to make better decks in budget. Plus Mitch's decks are super focused.

[@philxdev]

@@dyciefisk2535 as commander has gotten so popular, they will milk this cow even more and I think that they will release more than one "set" of commander precons per year.. so I assume we will most likely get around 10 precons per year.. and maybe even get some more this year..

[@cc_rex5017]

No no no, first they gotta reprint Wayfarers Bauble

[@YawgmothWasRight]

I was so hyped with Jimmy and Josh's videos, but I still waited for the review I value the most to be sure of my purchase. Thanks Prof, you're a really valuable help every time !

[@joshuaperrine2019]

Jimmy and Josh are not a source of valuable information when it comes to products. They are no better than those "real people" in car commercials.

[@bobbyhilvert107]

@@joshuaperrine2019 agreed. Fun to watch but they hype up every Single thing that comes out.

[@xero1134]

Wizards: *printing high value decks at lower costs* Prof: HALLELUJAH WE GOT AN AMAZING PRODUCT! Wizards: oh no we made it *TOO* good... Better change that unlike the standard format

[@The_Loreseeker]

"Commander decks can be made and sold for $20" This is the strongest statement in the video and one I'm seriously taking to heart; there exists no reason outside of greed for $40 decks to exist now that WotC has shown they can easily be half that price.

[@jcarroll1010]

I think Commander decks can easily be made for $20 when theres no new cards, sure they are less exciting but they're very good at being an intro to edh

[@BenDover-kk3xz]

I got both for $30, 15 each

[@magicthe7]

The normal precons come with 20~ new cards which all need design and new artwork. I hope they keep making both in the future.

[@soren1803]

bullyranger I don’t think that justifies a 100% price increase

[@BickyNuckley]

bullyranger That absolutely does not mean wizards of the coast should charge us double the price tag when, like the professor said, it costs them the same amount of money to print them. Sure, they have to pay for more art commisions, but whats that to a multimillion dollar company?

[@justinrose6911]

I'm loudly exclaiming "WHAT?!" as he talks about the price......$20 for EACH?! WHAT?!

[@l4l01234]

Justin Rose it’s almost like cardboard cards are dirt cheap to print, and these hyper inflated “market prices” are just the result of artificial scarcity

[@gypsieking3280]

@@l4l01234 shhh. Keep talking like that and the last thing you will hear is a restricted list card slicing through your windpipe, silencing you forever.

[@rb4121]

I just realised that they're 10 bucks each in my country by now - and I preordered them for 15 bucks each

[@ListRav17]

Whoopee Cushing, it's almost like one has to pay artists for the work done on each card, marketing, etc

[@cg5380]

Well if you can find them for 20 a bunch of places are increasing their prices

[@samdunn5846]

XD when u said sneak attack and were talking about reprints I got the wrong idea

[@dyciefisk2535]

I'd be confused too if they so casually reprinted Sneak Attack without mentioning it.

[@kriptonite981]

Yeah I got confused as to why sneak attack wasn't listed as a value card before I realized my mistake

[@DracoX-hz3tu]

That reference to the Simpsons was just... amazing 😂

[@randyrhoads4737]

Had me lmao so good I had to rewind it a couple times... That's how you know it was quite tasteful.

[@J.Rod_Drums]

The Prof's propensity for pettiness is positively pleasing.

[@pauldyson8098]

"The titular and now covered up Anowon." :D I agree 100%, prof. As a longtime, enfranchised player, I still bought Sneak Attack because the deck is actually pretty good and because there's good value in here. As always, I love that you keep fighting to keep prices down or, at least, to hold WoTC accountable. I've been playing for a long time (i.e., I'm old) but your focus on keeping things affordable makes younger, poorer me happy. Keep up the good fight.

[@heinousrat9019]

I bought it because I had most the landfall deck deck already and almost none of the cards that made up the rogues deck.

[@BigMoai]

This is a certified hood classic

[@apolinarhowell7783]

Exactly

[@OvenfreshDeth]

Very Cash Money

[@arborealblazer283]

Professor I must say this video is an A+. I only came here for education, I barely knew anything about these decks, but I found myself laughing out loud multiple times. Your personality really shines in this episode, and it's incredibly appreciated. Keep up the great work!!

[@Zotarian]

The deck boxes actually looked like an improvement, seemed to be more of an actual deck box instead of some super large awkward box

[@salvatorestabile5547]

They are good boxes and enough room to fit them sleeved

[@nicka.9057]

Yeah. A bit snig, but I fit mine with dragon sleeves.

[@doncon_380]

8:47 Brawl has pretty much become an arena only format and should have historic brawl as a result

[@heavenlyevan]

I'm a fan of the suggestion that Historic's Brawl-like format should just be Historic Commander with 100 card decks rather than 60.

[@dexmantis8145]

I love brawl

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

Brawl sucks

[@l4l01234]

What’s with the hate for brawl? It’s great for new players, and the new player experience in arena is crappy enough as it is, let them have this

[@doncon_380]

@@l4l01234 im not hating on brawl im just saying that they should implememt historic brawl as a normal gamemode

[@ajones0916]

Don't worry, I'm sure we'll run into resupply issues and these will be double in no time.

[@chevysupreme]

Honestly don't think that'll happen. My local lgs couldn't get the set boosters we ordered, but got shipped 6 times the precons he ordered

[@rb4121]

@@chevysupreme Also, even in Europe (where stores got pretty much screwed over with the whole Jumpstart thing) the stores seem to be pretty much stacked up on both Set Boosters and these decks. Surprisingly, I think WotC (to my knowledge) actually did do pretty well this time. A pleasant surprise.

[@Stroggoii]

These look like they're designed to take up Wal Mart shelf space as POP marketing.

[@ajones0916]

@Tyler Frost I was being facetious, just commenting on the state of 2020 mtg releases. I will say though that this being yet another product in 2020 may exacerbate the ongoing production issues for their other products.

[@chevysupreme]

@@ajones0916 yeah I'm really curious to see how they're going to juggle the already behind products with commander legends and probably even the first few sets from next year

[@chrisr.2410]

*Professor:* "Now we know Commander decks shouldn't cost more than $20" *WotC:* "Now we know not to ever charge less than $40 or people like the Professor will whine about it"

[@aerror404]

They changed it back

[@prodicalking]

Dude the clip of Prof going "i hope you didn't spend $77," made me laugh so hard I rewound and played it back twice.

[@EVO1148]

I'm so happy to see the absence of oversized foils in these, especially as it means it's not the usual weird sized deckboxes to compensate for the oversized foil.

[@dyciefisk2535]

The deck box provided, cardboard though it may be, can hold a *sleeved* commander deck. Although just, so no double sleeved decks.

[@dyciefisk2535]

@@TheAgingAscetic Odd, what I used are Dragonshield Mattes and the box closed all the way with no room to slide around. We are still talking about the deck boxes provided with the decks the video is about, right?

[@EVO1148]

@@dyciefisk2535 Either way it's still an improvement on the previous deckboxes which needed an elastic band to close if you tried to put anything sleeved in there

[@nicka.9057]

@@dyciefisk2535 Fit mine too with Matt dragon shields. A bit snug, but fits fine

[@maidenless_tarnished]

From the looks of it they're justifying the extra $20 with the jumbo commander card and more packaging lol

[@machdude3366]

The packaging... is actually comparable. Box size is like maybe 12% less material and it comes with a deck box too. You are paying less for 2/3 less foil cards.

[@Stroggoii]

@@machdude3366 The normal packaging is "much" more expensive because both sides of the parting "deck box" imply singular print runs. Of course at grand scale it's cents a piece, but it's cents they need to charge dollars for to get the stockholders another boat or something. The single piece top loading deck box and no oversize cards are exactly the cost cutting measures they should take to make Commander precons both good and inexpensive.

[@williescott5439]

Open your wallets and close your eyes, lol.

[@gnemish]

You forgot one of the best parts of this, the box that it comes with now is "normal" size AND can hold the entire deck single sleeved. Also the tokens if they are not sleeved.

[@austinftwXD]

I didn't have any problem fitting the full sleeved deck with sleeved Tokens, and the life counter in either of the boxes

[@chlotato8237]

TIL the oversized commander card is worth about $20.

[@Th3Treasoner]

@Tyler Frost That's the joke.

[@Th3Treasoner]

@Tyler Frost The only difference in cards is the oversized card. Therefore the oversized card is "worth" $20.

[@chlotato8237]

@Tyler Frost And the commander decks are $20 less. Coincidence? I think not.

[@jaybles23b70]

I absolutely love how sassy the Prof is getting about prices. Keep yelling at wizards to make their cardboard cheaper please. #UnReserveDualLands

[@κωνστντανίνοςκαππα]

Mr. Proffessorson, i would never had bought these decks, if i hadn't seen your video! I just ordered both of them, for 20 euros each one.

[@GABourne98]

I disagree on the "no reason they should be price different" Three new cards versus 17 new cards is a difference as there is more time has to go into play testing those 17 new cards on top of who designed those cards and put them in those decks. There is more than just print and the cost of these, there's people's salaries and time.

[@StPaddyOhear]

One could argue that that indeed DONT play test.

[@GABourne98]

To think that they wouldn't play test these cards and make sure they weren't releasing something that players hated is asinine.

[@MarcusFar]

Well it doesn't cost that much more and play testing does not cost much

[@GABourne98]

@@MarcusFar oh I'm sorry I didn't know you knew the finances of a major corporation. Do some research on how much just the art cost on those new cards and come back with the answer.

[@jankspanking8836]

I like prof's rant at the end of how MTG player's are slaves to capitalism.

[@Stroggoii]

Buying anything because you're infected by FOMO is consumerism, not capitalism. This is actually bad for capitalism because it's a behavior that risks you losing your financial stability and stop consuming because you're now homeless. Same reason why the least regulated physiologically addictive drug is the one that doesn't impede your ability to keep making money.

[@erickmayorga8721]

Yeah that’s a stretch, I understood it to be that MTG players just don’t care about the price or quality of the products, they’re gonna buy it anyways lol.

[@dogehkiindogeborn5339]

@@Stroggoii It's a behaviour necessary for the maintenance of capitalism so he wasn't off by much,

[@Stroggoii]

@@dogehkiindogeborn5339 No, it's not. Capitalism dies if consumers don't have money whether because they're not paid enough to pay for the products and services in supply (Detroit) or because they wasted their capital in overpriced luxury shit and drained the productive industry they depend upon of sustainability (Fifth Avenue).

[@jemolk8945]

@@Stroggoii Thing is, capitalism committing suicide and turning into neo-feudalism is something leftists like myself keep warning will happen just due to its incredibly warped and unrealistic ideological structure. Consumerism is an outgrowth of the capitalist mantra of infinite growth, and capitalism funnels all the resources into ever-fewer hands simply by its operation; wealth under capitalism snowballs, and in a finite space with finite (not even scarce -- just finite) resources, that's going to end up taking those resources from those on the bottom to give to those on the top. This will eventually cause the collapse of capitalism and a return to feudalism, but the process is still a function of capitalism, and the things that prevent that from happening are likewise still external to capitalism itself.

[@Kitten_Cacophony]

I'm required by divine law to get the Sneak Attack deck due to my screen name being Anowon from 2009 to 2019.

[@brianlinden3042]

Hey, at least your last name isn't "Linden." I was required by divine law to make a mono-white deck with a shitty commander. >.

[@kwintenkoeter7274]

In WotC's defense, fewer new cards means less time designing them. And with only two decks instead of four, probably also a smaller team and/or less time spent. It's still an absolute steal, but just wanted to undercut the "it's the same cardboard" argument.

[@thisworldismyshonenanime7603]

only the number of new cards vs old cards should affect that, not the total number of decks. if they made 10 precons all with the same number of new vs old cards, the amount of design effort *per deck* is approximately the same (assuming the decks are each about equal in power level), and therefore the design effort-levels would not vary much between each deck.

[@xChikyx]

that's bullahit excuse, a basic land and a black lotus cost the same to produce... and new cards is what they work for... designing cards is easy tbh

[@jemolk8945]

Honestly, I would prefer to have fewer "made specifically for commander" cards running around full stop, so full steam ahead on reprints over new cards in precons!

[@xChikyx]

@@jemolk8945 or both

[@elijahdavila3684]

@@jemolk8945 Yeah I agree with this. I think having one product with a ton of new cards for commander is fine, but if they're going to have several commander products a year, they need to be heavy on reprints imo.

[@deanofcool]

Commander legends is out in a month? Pretty sure it got pushed back to December.

[@TheTterr]

I think only the collectors boosters get delayed.

[@deanofcool]

Tobias Lehmann my bad. Must be those I was thinking of then. Kinda bizarre having collectors boosters coming out later than regular ones though.

[@ghostanbu1099]

The new Zendikar decks probably cost less to produce because they're reprint heavy and WoTc doesn't need to commission new art. I'm happy with the reprints 8n these I really hope WotC makes more of these in thos quality and maybe the "regular" procons can slowly fade away.

[@elijahdavila3684]

I agree with that heavily. The format needs more reprints for accessibility anyway. Print staples like mana rocks into the ground.

[@Lucifer0the0morning]

That makes little sense when you consider how much new art is commission for standard boosters.

[@dac314]

this is an interesting point. especially considering it was 17 unique commander cards in Ikoria vs only 3 in (return to return to return to return to) Zendikar! having to commission 85 new pieces of art for the 5 decks is significantly more than the 6 necessary for this release. If I thought the artists were PAID better, it would be a more compelling excuse.

[@TheSonicWafflez]

Have just started getting into commander with pre-con decks, waited to pre-order these for your video. Glad to hear they're decent just ordered them from my little LGS.

[@APyralis]

I wish we could "hold" WotC to this price, knowing full well that they can produce a quality product at half the price. But I think we all know what's going to happen. Commander Legends will come out, pricier than anything before it. And by the next round of pre-cons... the player-base will be so wrapped up in some other issue they'll lose sight of this and pay the $40 anyway. They offer a niche product... they have us all by the balls.

[@joe_h_Redwire]

I just had an argument with a friend, and if I hadn't distracted myself by watching this I probably would've been furious for hours. Thanks for your unique sense of humor Prof. Never stop causing technical difficulties.

[@Yakkosprite]

I must state publically that I really enjoy the Prof's puns. There, I said it

[@Balty_Burnip]

This episode was hilarious Prof, we don't deserve you!

[@RvBnerd618]

Nurgle, you play Magic as well? Have you ever challenged the other Chaos Gods or the Emperor in Magic, or do they still play that children's card game?

[@Balty_Burnip]

@@RvBnerd618 Tzeentch got me into it actually, but the others don't play yet. I wish they did though, Tzeentch only ever plays counterspells and stax, but he counters his own spells and screams "Just as Planned! You'll See!" every time he does it, it gets very repetitive.

[@RvBnerd618]

I see, well if I were to ever find myself in the warp and just so happen to find you, we should have a game! Hopefully ours won't be as repetitive as the changer of ways.

[@steveivey645]

This is probably one of my favorite videos yet. The amount of laughs I had in this video was huge. Plus I love these decks.

[@dankenstein528]

I would be fine if all commander precons down the line were 20 dollars, didn't include the giant pringles card, and didn't have a bunch of exclusive cards (which inevitably hurt the format and make the products get scalped).

[@poepertist]

Queen of the fae IN THIS ECONOMY. WELL YES

[@OvAeons]

Open your wallets, close your eyes and Aetherize! I like to think that was on purpose :D

[@leemiller6977]

Dear WoTC: When will we be able to play commander on Arena....? Signed, Every single Arena player

[@matthewpletsch7523]

When they stop trying too milk players by releasing each set 1 by 1, forcing essentially loot box mechanics on a player base who's major older playerbase understands that buying their lootboxes is a bad idea.

[@notreallyhere67]

Seeing the s**t show that standard has become on Arena and Brawl being too limited, I wish Commander was on Arena, I’d play nothing else.

[@cg5380]

I think you mean when will arena be good

[@simonadatcu8472]

Will you do a video on the commander legends preconstructed decks or are they too similar with the zendikar rising commander decks? Thanks.

[@daviskrell9737]

Showed up for the steamed hams. Wasn't disappointed.

[@whitenarcissu5082]

Does anyone's precon smells kinda... Funky? Mine and my friend's precons have this weird smell on em unlike previous precons which smells clean.

[@rhonir3209]

Get the Land‘s Wrath Deck! It‘s super fun and powerful straight out the box and I only changed 12 cards after playing 10 rounds with it and now it‘s perfect. Sneak Attack is kind of meh, but Land‘s Wrath is a must have for the ~10$ it currently costs

[@NixBuffaloBill]

Funny. My walmart is selling each at $40. what a joke.

[@CaptBackwards]

I would charge you $80 for half of one of them

[@yannaischrire7327]

CaptBackwards why?

[@heliobarbosa3525]

That's probably a mistake. A hefty markup like that isn't happening anywhere, no reason for it to happen on a big box store. Call someone on the store, explain the thing (it's 2 for $40, normally).

[@CaptBackwards]

@@yannaischrire7327 because I can for starters.

[@cappox]

Price match that $#it

[@adamgalloy9371]

The mana base seems a little more compromised than "traditional" commander decks (even though those aren't exactly great they usually include at least a couple of untapped duals whereas these just have command tower) but other than that I'm pretty impressed. IDK why WotC seems to have such a good grasp of how to build a decent out-of-the-box commander deck, but prints bull crap like Planeswalker decks and Intro Packs to introduce players to Standard. Maybe the fact that it's a singleton format helps? A big problem with 60 card introductory decks is that they rarely include play sets of important cards and that problem simply doesn't exist for Commander...

[@martenyus]

i think that new player want to play with bunch of different cards and try new things. if the decks contain only play sets, there is no room for upgrade or new ideas with the deck. i think that for new players its not about winning and best play possible but about experience.

[@adamgalloy9371]

@@martenyus That is a good point. I agree that there should be a middle ground between giving a new player a deck that has room to grow and giving someone a deck that is competitive out-of-the-box but I think the scale is tipped too far towards the earlier and not the later. From my experiences at least, new players aren't exactly having fun if they feel that their opponents deck is insurmountable no matter what they do with theirs and it reinforces the stereotype that the game is all about how much money you spend on the deck. In addition, making the deck a hodge podge of cards with no real direction certainly adds room for growth, but its not exactly a great example of how to build an exciting and functional deck. If you are going to make pre-con decks for players shouldn't they demonstrate a good model for deck-building? I think some of the key commons/uncommons of the deck should at least be in playsets to give the deck more direction/consistency without making the deck a "finished" product.

[@PieBandit]

The Professor needs a custom "technical difficulties, please stand by" card. Also, picked them both up for twelve bucks a piece. No regrets!

[@briantrukki6392]

PieBandit where did you get them at that price?

[@domingolucas6651]

We wanna know!

[@PieBandit]

Friendly LGS!

[@ThaddeusMike]

While I usually agree with you on WOTC's economics, these decks don't cost as much to make as the Ikoria decks did. Those new cards do take resources to produce. They take valuable time and labor, even if the result always seems to include some duds and some pushed cards. While I doubt that the entire price difference is due to those costs, some price difference is justified. From a customer perspective we may prefer this style, but I do think you underplay a very real difference.

[@pytawidmo]

I bought the Sneak Attack one (love me some tribal decks) and was utterly disappointed - they didn't include the Blue/Black tokens for Oona and instead only gave a lot of the Black ones :< Other than that, really nice deck with many cards I would for sure buy at one point or another if this wasn't printed.

[@DianTherra9]

I wish stores around here did a two-for-one deal. The price for these is truly excellent! Around here they're more the equivalent of 27 dollars, but as the Ikoria decks cost about 55 dollars each, I'm not complaining. I'd love to see Wizards of the Coast make more decks at this quality and above in the future at the same price. I actually have a great proposition for them: cut the way-too-small deck box and the paper life counter, especially the expensive-to-print foil cards, oversized card and heck, the lands, and make sure the rest of the cards are solid, and sell the deck at half the price! Everybody wins! Okay, they should obviously have key pieces to be able to play out-of-the-box, but if I'm going to have to pay 25 dollars for cardboard, I'd prefer that very cardboard being specific cards that enhance the playing experience. I don't care about foils. I enjoy the game and want to be able to play it. A solid video, and it's nice to see I'm not the only one pleased to be able to buy two commander decks for the price of one.

[@N7xVoss]

I do like oversized cards so I do miss that. But then again not that big of a deal.

[@ThaAmjab]

I almost spat out my coffee when the steamed hams joke came along.

[@loganbarrett9056]

Last time I was this early Oko wasn’t op. Oh, so I’ve never been this early

[@gurrekurre1726]

oko the joko broko

[@jonathandispain]

I mean there was the before times

[@kennethdixoniii4113]

The reprints are solid. That’s why I picked up the pair yesterday at my LGS. They are a good time out of the box unlike past planeswalker decks.

[@ericleiva]

I would normally agree that wizards could make the products cheaper, specially when it comes to reprint-sets, but when new cards ought to be created is't there a cost associated with the work it takes to create them? And I could totally side with wizards there... but they usually don't pay extra to their employees for their extra work.

[@timjohnworld6902]

I disagree on the price point issue. I can imagine that the "regular" preconstructed commander decks do cost more to produce. Not to print, but to design. All the new cards that were designed needed development time from R&D.

[@EnglishAdventures]

Thanks Professor! I preordered sneak attack last week as my first commander deck because the product looks so good!

[@Fr0stbite1801]

LGS had a sale going on and I picked up both for about 30 bucks. I've always wanted to try out commander but can't afford those precons with nice staples and whatnot. Now I got two for a decent price!

[@bch9124]

Professor, it is "in regard," not "in regards." I cringe every time you say in regards!

[@ghostanbu1099]

When will WotC stop with the guildgates!!

[@fishinglifeforme]

What you fail to say in your value of the deck is you can only sell these cards for a fraction of the price, meaning if the deck has $60 in value, you can expect to only receive 50% of that value, but still is more than the price of the decks. This is a great plus.

[@endlessorbaggins8223]

I think that when doing expected "value" video the creators should effectively base their numbers on what the secondary market would offer you for these cards...and not on what the secondary market is asking you for these cards. Also, cards from Shadowmoor like Sygg and Oona have higher price because of scarcity. They will drop hard. I would say that if you pay 20$ for these decks, in 2-3 months you would want to sell the singles and they would not offer you more than 20$. It is beautiful to see a 20$ precon before release print to demand product with 90$ worth of what an LGS would sell you the single. But, that 90$ is far from the reality of what the product is worth after release.

[@namename8004]

Wow, I can't believe these are only $20 at the same quality as previous commander decks. It's infuriating that WotC gets away with charging the exorbitant prices they do.

[@chaosbobby]

Cost to produce a deck is the same for mtg for every deck. They don't make money off of the secondary market directly. They only nake money by limiting certain cards to increase demand for future releases. So they could make every commander deck $20.

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Its really wierd how they get stingy on the lands the more colours are added to to the decks. Remember 5C dragons? Wotc were they thinking

[@GoDzJtFr]

Honestly the mana bases of that entire release was scuffed. I was playing the cats and was having mana issues at 2 colors with one of them being green. What the hell was wizards thinking with those?

[@345tom]

I just want to mention about Brawl quickly- it's not even good at on Arena. It would probably be alright if they could actually make it 4 player, but with it still being 1v1 there's so many people just trying to get their wins in, so you don't get that commander jank spirit.

[@olliespeed4008]

Great video as always. Just wanna say that you're someone I look up to and respect as human being and not just because you are so wise in the ways of magic, you seem to me so wholesome and true. Keep on keeping on dude.

[@TolarianCommunityCollege]

I appreciate that. Thank you.

[@olliespeed4008]

@@TolarianCommunityCollege :)

[@Petronio39]

I was actually really surprised with the sneak attack deck. When I was opening it, cards like notorious throng really jumped out as cards I thought for sure I'd have to buy for upgrades. There's actually not a ton of filler in the deck, and ironically, some of the most notable rogues missing were standard cards I thought they'd include like brazen barrower. Overall, I was pretty happy with it.

[@lookeoj]

"we'll buy anything!" i am deceased

[@eduardoivancastillosalazar9144]

Thank you so much for this video! As a new MTG player, this videos are going to help me a lot!

[@nerdzilla1355]

Made the choice not to get Land’s Wrath last night. Let’s see if it was worth it!

[@nerdzilla1355]

Oh ok! A! A freaking A! Dangit.

[@darealwhosane]

I got lands wrath great value great cards super happy with it

[@Tylersingin]

I mean I play green a lot and already had all but the 3 new cards and maybe 5 reprints (if that). Also I dont like the commander

[@dyciefisk2535]

Supply the needed manabase yourself, otherwise that deck is pretty good.

[@thetemp7858]

I got a sneak attack and modified it, its very good!

[@db0ssman897]

Wow! The non-bulk prices of these decks absolutely tanked. The non-bulk value of the lands deck went from$61 to $11! Sneak attack went from $71 to $13.

[@wetzombie8491]

We sold ours at the LG S for $10 apiece

[@rb4121]

They run for the same price here, it's amazing. Might actually get some friends of me into Commander.

[@owlsayssouth]

First taste is at cost. How sinister.

[@Amascut]

Got mine at a preorder price of around 30 for the bundle of both. Never been happier. The reprints rock and the face card and two new other cards are very fun.

[@dragonrage58]

I wish, mine is selling one for 25 and one for 30

[@wetzombie8491]

@@rodrigoquiroz when you buy from a distributor for 8 and you just wanna move product vs gouge its different

[@ohnosmoarlulcatz]

It's good to hear that these commander decks are actually good. I overlooked them merely because I didn't like the themes behind them very much.

[@endlessorbaggins8223]

Played Commander yesterday ond my friend played the Anowon deck that she had tweaked only a little bit. And it did pretty well. Must say that I was impressed with the playability of her deck for a 25$CAD precon (with minor modifications). Glad I pre-ordered the 2 of them. I had regret when I heard they were replacement for Planeswalker decks. But, now i'm glad i bought them.

[@Jaebird88]

The extra $20 from past decks came from printing those oversized cards.

[@timolebeck6405]

Prof: „Remember brawl?“ 🤣🤣🤣

[@Joseph-xv1ht]

He does these as an excuse to have the product 😂😂😂

[@darkhawk123]

So I bought the Sneak Attack deck, and it destroyed my playgroup. OMG. On the other hand the Ikoria Arcane Maelstrom deck just goes off early and leads to me being horribly targeted.

[@nolifeSnorlax]

Prof is on Fire in this one xD love it!

[@chrismaxwell3001]

Played my precon sneak attack today, and kid you not! I had a first turn of land, sol ring, mind stone. 2nd turn mater thief that stole another sol ring. 😂

[@Slaughtermane]

Calling it now, Commander Legends will be 50-60 bucks a deck.

[@brighamschellinger147]

Little known fact. Pringles are not actually "chips" and if you look at a can it will not say chips but instead "crisps." This is because chips are technically fried slices of potatoes where as pringles are made from taking the thrown out bits of potato mixing them with water and starch and then molding them into their signature magic card shape.

[@bluwzrdisgreedy234]

Ok, the arora borealis bit got me. Bravo. Edit: Ah, it's a DtR callback. Gotta admit I don't watch the long form content too much.

[@FuzzyShocker]

Great video as always Professor, but I came to ask you a little thing: could you stress out that Wizards should support all products in different languages? Commander Legends is about to be released and they'll be printed in english only. My girlfriend struggles with this barrier, and I don't think it's fair at all.

[@endlessorbaggins8223]

While I understand your point, I also think it could be seen as an opportunity to learn some english for your girlfirend. I'm french canadian. I have two daughters about 10 yo that don't speak english. Play Commander with them almost once a week for about 3 years and now they are able to read even not before seen cards on their own. The wording on the cards is often the same (Draw, until end of turn, enters the battlefield, etc) so in my opinion you don't need to be bilingual to be able to play MTG. Just need some effort to get used with the more currently used terms. Playing MTG as helped my daughters learned some bit of english and i'm proud of that.

[@FuzzyShocker]

@@endlessorbaggins8223 it's different. Probably your daughters already had a much better contact with english than we do (I'm from Brazil). Second, the game is already really complex to teach, but becomes even harder when you don't know what is written in the cards. And finally, it's probably easier to teach someone when they're 10 or less than someone with 35 and little to no knowledge in english. While we agree that learning a new language is important and would solve lots of problems, the issue is that some products can't be fully enjoyed by customers because a simple barrage that could be solved by the company making the game.

[@FoxNoctom]

These are a Knockout commander product. 2 Super functional, and Easy to build upon Decks for under $40. I Really Really REALLY wish these continue with that price...

[@Guten101]

The sneak attack deck is pretty much everything you'd need to get Yuriko Ninjas off the ground, for half the cost.

[@happys6524]

Will you do one for the commander legends preconstructed decks, or are they too similar?

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

The only Pre-con I kinda regret is Otrimi and even then he comes with Ukkima which is almost CEDH levels of power.

[@SiymPai]

Ordered these for $28 for both on ebay a bit ago. They play really well!

[@DarthDubhslaine]

I preordered the two CL commander decks for the same price! My favorite part of these new decks is the box. It's made to fit sleeved cards!

[@endlessorbaggins8223]

Yeah saw this two for the box that can fit sleeved cards. Was about time WotC fixed that. I will surely used such box for my decks where the box thay made before have no use for me.

[@ys4502]

Yes Yes Yes, call WOTC out, hold them accountable for the future commander product price!

[@michaelkeenan2307]

3:50 NGL I dropped an f-bomb when I saw how much the cards in this were worth.

[@reubenoakley8967]

I really hope that these sell well so that WotC will lower the price of all commander precons

[@chiefpancakes3930]

Ngl these might be the first magic products I’ve picked up since quarantine hit

[@endersblade]

I pre-ordered mine for $41, and even though the price has dropped since then, I'm still satisfied with the cost.