Is It Worth Spending $300K on a 5-Axis Machine? | The Impractical Machinists 12

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@5axmachine167 Ай бұрын

I bought a 5 axis trunnion to put on an old Haas VF-3 back in 2010. After completing the first 5 axis job on that setup, I knew that was going to be our future. 95% of our work is now 5 axis, and we keep 14 machines busy 24 hours a day. Production 5 axis work can generate a lot of money...

@hytechmetalworks Ай бұрын

Great content! Small shop here, work slowed down quite a bit this year, took the time to do a lot of things we could never do during the busy times. And yes, save your money for the hard times and don't needlessly overextend yourself, sure a 5 axis would be great or a swiss lathe or etc etc.. but money in the bank and being debt free makes the hard times survivable. Also, couldn't imagine hiring someone and expect them to come with their own tools. Guilty of using harbor freight for an air gun or a dead blow hammer but when it comes to any measuring tools get the higher end stuff, Mitutoyo, Starrett, etc.. Keep the content coming!

@patrickmcclintock7027 Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching.

@szaboandras74 Ай бұрын

I always tell a new guy I hire that mistakes will definitely be made, he’s gonna screw up at times, but what I hope for from him is that he only makes the same mistake once because he learned from it. So many things in a machine shop I have learned by first learning how not to do it.

@alexgronlund314 Ай бұрын

The most likely reason you couldn't reharden the parts back to the same hardness is because of a process called decarburization, which is effectively the opposite of carburization. When Steel is heated, the carbon at the surface can react with different gasses in the air and be leached out of the steel, causing the carbon percentage at the surface of the steel to drop, reducing its ability to harden. Heat treatment in an inert or carbon-rich atmosphere can mitigate your carbon losses.

@exol511 Ай бұрын

I stand on the big horizontal round 1m away from the control regularly when I program it for the operator. There is no way to actually see what is going on unless you stand right next to the part (its not like the machine does not have a expensive wireless mpg with pause and estop exactly for that). The biggest danger on the thing is someone slipping on the oil, instead of the machine moving or squishing you (reason why I had the owner swap the coolant and get the operators to use boots that got good grip on wet metal). Heck the wireless control even has a dead man switch set as pause, meaning you can set it so that the machine can run only when its pressed (pause stops the spindle as well).

@MarvelMachining Ай бұрын

There's also nothing worse than trying to reach far into a machine and have your feet slip out from under you as well!

@noahdboss1195 Ай бұрын

great episode... thank you for addressing that video Bradley posted XD

@MantismanTM Ай бұрын

If I see employERS requesting employEES to bring in their own tools, that's a red flag. If I see employEES refuse company tools because it is not their tool, that's a red flag.

@timstevens3361 Ай бұрын

your a red flag

@madisonrollings1845 Ай бұрын

Every shop I've worked in the machinists brought their own tools.

@szaboandras74 Ай бұрын

When my guys make a mistake and screw up apart, nobody gets mad, I remind them that we are about solutions, not problems. We can’t be pointing fingers, we need to always keep chugging forward if that means making the part all over again then that is what has to be done. We do have some fun with each other,if they scrap apart, I’ll take a sharpie and write their name on it and keep that part at the machine for a couple days.

@Machiningiscool Ай бұрын

I like that saying. We are about solutions, not problems.

@madisonrollings1845 Ай бұрын

I had to dial in a fixture using two 1/4" pins 20" apart inside a Matsuura MAM72-63V. I got tired of jogging the table back and forth so I wrote a program to feed the table left and right. I was standing on the auger screws with my dial indicator and hammer aligning these pins. I'd reach out the door and press cycle start to go to the other pin.

@patrickmcclintock7027 Ай бұрын

That’s getting it done!

@lunchman84 Ай бұрын

How do you even manage calibration with personal tools? That seems insane. And if employer suddenly takes in a job with big hole, should you suddenly buy a 4 inch bore gauge?

@patrickmcclintock7027 Ай бұрын

Not all shops need calibration of everything. However, that’s definitely not ideal. I know shops that allow personal tools and require periodic calibration, including employee tools.

@MarvelMachining Ай бұрын

The shops I've worked at, typically an employees tools have "FOR REFERENCE ONLY" tags on them. You can use them in the shop to measure what you are working on of course, but final inspection is done with calibrated inspection equipment, hand tools, typically done by a "qualified" inspector that signs off and list all inspection equipment used as well.

@LoneWolfPrecisionLLC Ай бұрын

The backlash about being in th machine was dumb. Estop the machine and move on 😂 i was climbing around a bridge mill during setups all time.

@jbjosh3 Ай бұрын

What’s your favorite style of lathe tool locators? I am looking into getting some capto style for my den for quicker set up times.

@patrickmcclintock7027 Ай бұрын

I don’t have much experience with that but quick change tooling is great on a lathe. I know they make capto/KM adapters for lathes but it’s expensive.

@AlChemicalLife 2 күн бұрын

My shop does not allow your own tools. All though the tools would be probably more well taken care of if others had fo buy them. They get absolutely trashed here sadly. I put a purchase in for new mitutoyo coolant proof calipers and 0-1 mic for pur grinding cell and theyve been beaten and abused and not taken care of. It pisses me off

@robertcheatham6646 Ай бұрын

What model of CMM is that in Bradley's background?

@MarvelMachining 24 күн бұрын

Brown & Sharpe MicroVal

@robertcheatham6646 24 күн бұрын

@@MarvelMachining Thanks!

@shaunybonny688 Ай бұрын

What horizontal does Marvel Machining have?

@noahdboss1195 Ай бұрын

EC400 i believe

@MarvelMachining Ай бұрын

Yes, EC400PP

@teekteekteekteek 24 күн бұрын

@@MarvelMachininghow happy are you with it? Running it 3rd unmanned shift? How many problems do you have with the pp?

@MarvelMachining 24 күн бұрын

@@teekteekteekteek I am happy with it. I don't have much production to keep it running like it should be. I've had a couple and it did run around the clock with no problems. I am starting a job next week that will run around the clock for about a month. Only complaint is chip evac, which seems to be a common problem with all sorts of MTB, the conveyor runs slower than the screws and can't keep up with heavy roughing. I built 6 unique tombstones to fit numerous set ups, allowing me to go from set up to set up without ever tearing a machine down.

@teekteekteekteek 24 күн бұрын

@ thank you for your reply!! Have fun with it :)

@szaboandras74 Ай бұрын

Am I the only one who’s safety glasses fog up when I screw up a part?

@MarvelMachining Ай бұрын

What are safety glasses 😂 Invest in some nice safety glasses, even if you don't wear prescription, stop into an eyeglass place and get a pair with anti fog and scratch clear lenses. They are worth the investment.