Is JOSH Cabernet Sauvignon GOOD???

[@AlejandroPDX]

Thanks for putting supermarket wines in! I don’t buy them either but it’s great to hear thoughts and opinions from wine pros like you

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🙏🙏🙏🙏😬

[@Matt_Bykowski]

Great video. Thanks, I'm always looking for a budget Cab Sauv. Id love to see more videos like this. Thanks!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Happy hunting!

[@gustavomgomes]

Great example of Australian cab that can age with the screw cap 😊! Miss a example of a Chilean CS !! In this price point they use to deliver great results ! Cheers !

[@drmatthewhorkey]

They do but I didn’t have one handy

[@gmemo4449]

I like Josh Cellar's Cabernet, for the price it is actually quite decent. When it's on Total Wines Deal app at 9.99, I usually buy 1/2 a case. I good value wine when I don't feel like opening one of my expensive wines.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮😮

[@noahsimulated6124]

one of the best cabs i've had for under 25 is dry creek vineyard's. idk how much it is outside of my market, but where i live it is $20 and a must buy. In fact, their whole line is some of the most consistent quality i've seen from an affordable brand.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I like their Zin

[@Stanvansandt]

One of the best cabs I've had in the last couple of years was Australian - Xanadu, from Margaret River. Not sure of the price, but I think it was on sale for less than 30 US$. Really outstanding for that price.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

That is a fantastic Cab! I talked about it a few videos ago

[@dwithee8357]

Matt, hey there. Appreciate this tasting as variability is significant at this price point. One I’ve had good luck with in the $25 range is the Buehler Cabernet. Their estate version is $10 more but both punch above their price point.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Your first line is SOOOO true

[@markantonio1673]

For that price point in the Japanese market I'd also go Chilean due to the well known cost performance, favourable trade conditions between the two countries, and weakness of the Yen. Casillero del Diablo Reserva - one of the largest production wines on Earth - is a solid choice you can find everywhere (and sub USD10, not sub USD25!). I do think there is an emerging gap in the market between cheap and expensive for this grape variety as mid priced wines that may have fit the description have gotten more expensive this past few years.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

You have really nailed it with that last line

[@bjornep2]

My fairly new favourite everyday Bordeaux is Chateau Lilian Ladouys from St Estephe. It's only about 20 Euros or even less in some stores.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Fantastic wine that has shown up twice on this channel - including a visit during a VLOG episode

[@bjornep2]

@@drmatthewhorkey I bought the 2019 en primeur, and some more after having popped the first bottle, including a bunch of magnums to be enjoyed when I'm retired.

[@mitch_l]

Agreed! Very popular choice where I live in No. Virginia, USA.

[@loveeveryone2810]

Airfield estate Cabernet Sauvignon out of Yakima Valley is under 20 and is one of my favorites! Love your videos!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Niceee price for a WA cab

[@shellyhanson7165]

I’m very partial to Washington cabs! Walla Walla, Red Mountain, Yakima. All great AVA’s to find cabs.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Can be good too! There is a Washington Cab blind tasting video on the channel last year

[@jameswingad3212]

Chile makes some really good wines at that price point as does Argentina. I´m also not surprised the Australian wine performed well! The US seems to be quite an expensive place to make wine to get great Cab at that price.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Chile does do good work at those prices indeed

[@jenniferg3251]

Thank you! I'm from California and see several of these often at the store but have tried none of them.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for watching!

[@nosyrosie6947]

Thank you for posting your video. I have tasted both the Josh and the Joel Gott Cabernet's and liked them. The Barra is not available on the east coast.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Enjoy the wine

[@laurencestewart3828]

Great topic, thank-you! My go to cab in this price range is Justin from Paso Robles, but have had others from Total wine as well.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thanks for watching!

[@mitch_l]

I've touted Justin as well. Also check out Austin from Austin Hope.

[@fredericperrin3279]

Great review, highlights that it's not that easy to find decent Cab at low prices. As you said, there is a good value in cheap Bordeaux, I am often positively surprised there. And the best value for money, in a generic sense, is probably in Argentina. A lot depends on taste, personally I really don't like oaky wines in general, especially Cab and Chardonnay. The Barra looks interesting, would love to try that one.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Barra really surprised me! Argentina does offer fantastic QPR

[@stevenissenbaum9428]

I really enjoy your videos! Have you tried the Josh cab reserve north coast widely available for $18-19 I think it drinks nicely for this price point

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Thank you!

[@JonBLodi]

Thanks again for searching out QPRs for us!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🙏🙏🙏🙏🍷😬

[@scififan68]

I found a 2019 Vinakoper Cabernet Sauvignon from Slovenia for $6.99 and it wasn't bad at all for the price. Also found their Merlot for the same price. Both seemed to represent the grape varieties well especially for that low price.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Vina Koper is a large producer that does stuff well. Their best red is the Refošk IMO

[@scififan68]

@@drmatthewhorkey I also got that one for $6.99 and I haven't opened the bottle yet! That is very good to know that, thanks. When I see an odd grape variety I just have to buy it especially for a low price! I bought all three at a grocery store for $6.99 each.

[@TheDesertWineGuy]

I always found Josh and Joel Gott Cabernet Sauvignons to be a very "pleasant" wine. If I saw the wine at a party I would certainly be content. Hey Matthew, what do you know about the 2014 Padis, Cabernet Sauvignon? I bought two bottles at for $49 a piece.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I haven't tasted Padis before. Sounds like you got a steal for a Napa Cab

[@hocheye]

The issue is with some of these wines is the oak or vanilla. Oak and vanilla is very nice on the palate but it hides the fruit.Thats why I have been avoiding Cheaper California Cabernet Sauvignon.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Good strategy! Although that has been dialed back over the years

[@veroman007]

shitty wineries over oak to fool dumber drinkers and to cover the crappy fruit. oak is a joke in american cabs and chards.

[@IvanHernandezelearning]

Australians are great when it comes managing tannins, aren't they?

[@nikolajkrarup-os9gn]

I allmost only drink cabernet sauvignon from haut medoc in France. But some aussie cabernet/shiraz blends I like. Few California cabernets too. Some Italian super Tuscan also. And chile. Which is where you get most value for money cabernet sauvignons.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Chile can bring plenty of value!

[@katzsteel]

I don’t have a refined, nose in the air palette. I find the Aldi Cab a very good one. I’ve had a few Cab’s too. I drink bourbon, scotch and aged tequila too. Bring on the oak and vanilla pansy!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Drink what you like!

[@RobC-tt4sq]

The Ventisquero Grey Glacier Single Block Cabernet Sauvignon from the Maipo Valley in Chile is very good and can be had under $20.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Nicee

[@ray4sp]

recently tried Decoy Anderson Valley 2021 cab which was very accetable and priced at just under $25

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes! Solid wine!

[@joe-zp7ge]

below average..@@drmatthewhorkey

[@alessandrobotti8981]

I’d like to signal the “Cabernet - Istrice, Elena Walch”. It’s a nice blend of cab sauv and a smole quantity of franc from the alto adige region in italy that in my opinion offers great value for the money.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Niceee. There can be some surprisngly good Cab blends in Alto Adige

[@johns2262]

You can get some fairly awesome Cabernet Sauvignon from Moldova sub $15. As with many things, you can't just assume that any Cabernet will be awesome, so you can end up drinking some less good wines to find the gems.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes I’ve had plenty in Moldova! Good call

[@xmanboby]

As a 15 bucks wine .. Purcari Sapiens Cabernet Sauvignon surprised me with it's quality

[@drmatthewhorkey]

It is very solid

[@AndrewSmith-rh9kt]

Slightly over budget and i dont know how it retails in the USA but Chateau Batailley was still about 30usd equivalent a bottle en premieur last year. Once its retail its double that but i think its good enough to justify buying a case or two if you can store them. Always delivers a good representation of proper pauillac and at a low price (relatively)

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I’m a big fan of that wine too

[@gogreenmsu03]

Pretty surprising results to me. I have more or less abandoned Cab. Sauv. at this price point. I used to buy Daou’s entry level Cab., but even that has become less appealing (could be my preferences evolving, not necessarily the wine changing for the worse).

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Totally could be your palate changing, which is a good thing

[@WineWorldTV]

I was worried the Josh was the best ;). I'm off the socials right now, but I've heard they're hitting social media hard and some industry people are firing back. Cool flight though.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I heard that too but I didn’t see anything about them on my feeds

[@garrett3441]

Josh and Joel got selling over $15- $18 !!!??? That swill is available in my area for $10!!

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I know right!???

[@joe-zp7ge]

its amazing how many people drink josh and joel gott. if people would just go to a reputable wine store they could find a much better value from spain,chile, argentina, or australia. a decent cab today and i say decent runs 50.00 north. i have seen some chiantis between 25 and 30 that are pretty good. its the same with the pinots.... 35 north.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

It is convenience factor and often people don’t have wine as a priority. With a little more effort, A LOT better wine

[@joe-zp7ge]

lifes too short to waste your palate on a bad glass of wine. wife and i walked out of a restaraunt two nights ago because the wine list was contemptible.

[@chriseaton2730]

I have seen Josh and Joel Gott on numerous chain restaurants' wine lists.

[@joe-zp7ge]

they buy in quantity for 7 a bottle and sell that crap for 45 a bottle@@chriseaton2730

[@hottuna2006]

I'm sure they exist but I don't think of Cabs when it comes to "value" wines. They're either cheap and bad or good and expensive. I suppose the many Bordeaux blends you find in France for 10-25 euros come close but they're usually unavailable internationally.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

There are plenty of solid Bordeauxs in that price range in the USA but I didn’t include them here bc a lot of them generally use less CS than more expensive ones

[@justincurrier218]

Cabs are my favorite wine and was first introduced with Josh. Since watching your videos, I’ve definitely opened up to different varieties especially Bordeaux. I try to get bottles that you recommend.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Wow thanks!

[@VektrumSimulacrum]

Speaking of cost of packaging, I do find it a shame that reusing the glass is as much of a pain point as it is. I can only save so many 750 ml bottles in my brewing equipment. I saved 12 light green burgundy bottles and they take up quite a bit of room in my small closet shelves.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

That does indeed stink!

[@mitch_l]

Thanks, Dr. Horkey -- excellent segment and a valuable service for your viewers. At the ~$20 price point I've found some very enjoyable Cabs from Paso Robles (California Central Coast): Austin from Austin Hope, Justin, and DAOU. Check them out and let us know what you think.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I've had them, I'm not a huge fan of Paso Cab in this price point... I prefer Bordeaux LOL

[@luisamparano]

Good timing on the video since the Josh has been going viral on social

[@drmatthewhorkey]

It is???

[@joe-zp7ge]

worst crap but a cool name so it sells

[@Allan-cl8ie]

Well, the Josh Cab reserve keeps flying off the shelves so much so that the price has risen by about 25% in a month. I guess people are into crap.@@joe-zp7ge

[@Blair338RUM]

I’m not a great fan of Cabernet Sauvignon as it is too tannic for my GI tract. But Australia makes some great ones in Coonawarra, Margaret River and the Pyrenees region of Victoria. Pass me the Chambolle Musigny please 🤣

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Yes I love Coonawarra and Margaret River

[@JohnAmidon-c6r]

If I remember to take ibuprofen before drinking it, I avoid tannic headaches and can enjoy Cab. In moderation.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮

[@JohnAmidon-c6r]

@@drmatthewhorkey yeah, tannins. That's one reason why I go for Pinot Noir!

[@mikek6313]

So of the two wines you really like 1 isn't sold in the USA the other is only available at the Mendocino winery, 🤨

[@drmatthewhorkey]

One of my favs here is also on Wine.com... The video was about seeing if there are alternatives to supermarket Cab, which there are.

[@mikek6313]

Totally and I'm a big fan of yours, but isn't accessibility part of them being alternatives? That accessibility is the selling point of the wines in markets. @@drmatthewhorkey

[@marknelson8724]

I love Napa Cab. But they are pricing themselves out. There are cheaper Napa Cab labels but they almost always lack that thing, that "background noise" that just signals to me that I have a Napa Cab in my glass. I have not yet been able to express in words what I really mean. I did identify a Napa Cab in a blind tasting of twelve wines very recently. I know what I am talking about but I just haven't been able to explain it in words, sorry.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

High end Napa Cab does have that complexity and sparkle!

[@gmemo4449]

Btw a very good video, I agree with I wasn't impressed with Joel Gott at that price point.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😎

[@GarthScholtz]

Nothing from Stellenbosch? Not sure what you can find in the US but here you can get tremendous value for $10 to $15.

[@shellyhanson7165]

Very difficult to get great wines from SA in the US unfortunately!

[@GarthScholtz]

@@shellyhanson7165 that's a bummer

[@drmatthewhorkey]

I do love SA wines but they aren’t readily available in the USA. Also a 10-15 dollar cab in SA would probably be around 30 in the USA

[@hantus77]

South Africa: Le Riche Wines, Thelema, Kanonkop

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Agreed but they aren’t readily available nor as affordable in the USA as they are domestically

[@ULlisting]

I thought screw caps were air tight and prevented the wine from aging. Comments welcome.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

They make them with different permeabilities to allow a tad bit of oxygen in them.

[@Blair338RUM]

That’s the best way to find decent wines. Go to wine stores. Develop relationships.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Totally agree

[@marciobukowski9836]

at this price point, most of Californian cabs are too sweet. I'd go to Argentina. Chile is also good, despite of the vegetal/green pepper note, that I don't appreciate much

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Nice choices! Both countries offer great qpr

[@numanuma20]

I think CS is great but can we branch out and talk about the lesser known grapes like Friulino or Negroramaro. We just keep talking about the same things.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Lots of videos about odd grapes on this channel, esp the early years of it

[@welshtoro3256]

Kinda disappointing in a way. When I started off in wine 37 years ago CS was cheap and all over the place and I guess it was taken for granted. You could buy great stuff for these prices. I'm talking about French CS because that was it. California wasn't a thing and it still isn't a thing in most of the Old World. The issue of Cab has become insane today. I agree there is value but it's not outside the region of production. WT

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Bulgaria used to be an excellent source of inexpensive Cab in the UK market!

[@veroman007]

well done. I am so glad i dont care for cab/s. You will be hard pressed to beat Spanish, portugese, italian wines under $20. even right bank Bordeauxs offer great value compared to napa etc. I gave up on american wines a few years back and am much happier and have more money in my pocket. This whole cab sauv crap is just so much marketing to americans who wanted a big fruity wine and were told merlot is de classe. drink old world wines and really explore interesting varietals i say.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

The excellent American wines can be darn darn pricey for sure

[@francmassaneda]

You can get great Cab Sauv in Spain for 15$

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Spanish wine prices domestically are soooooo good

[@francmassaneda]

@@drmatthewhorkey Check some Perelada wine from Empordà DO, or some Jean Leon or TORRES from Penedès DO. In that low price range they have quite amazing stuff.

[@andrewtonon7983]

Paoletti makes a killer cab at 20$ (Bella Novello)

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮

[@MYWINEEXPERIENCE]

👍

[@drmatthewhorkey]

🙏

[@ronbernstein1687]

It's a great wine for the money

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Not my cup of tea but all good to those who like it!

[@Neurability]

Hi. I received my ROVSYA wine glasses yesterday. Super disappointed that you promote these. Cloudy. Cheaply made. Really thick. Glass material is low quality. Sad 😞

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Sorry you feel that way, in that price point I genuinely like them. At that price, don’t expect Zaalto or Gabriel Glas.

[@Neurability]

@@drmatthewhorkey Whelp, into the garbage they go. Trust lost.

[@donaldalbro810]

Just go to Washington Napa is so overrated for the price

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Washington Cab is nice but def climbing in price too!

[@Ruirspirul]

there is nothing more generic than cheap Cab Sauv😅

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Hahahaah

[@jamesrbreeden3777]

One is good the other isn’t

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😮

[@scotts6067]

Is Josh Cab good? Nope. Over oaked fruit bomb.

[@drmatthewhorkey]

😬

[@smacfe]

Not very helpful

[@drmatthewhorkey]

Ok