Is Jyotish Shastra Indian? - Origin & Evolution of Astrology

[@TheFutureIQ]

Do you believe Jyotish Shastra to be true? We're curious to know your thoughts, let us know in the comments. More FutureIQ videos that may interest you - How Astrologers Predict Future / Fool You: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJS2pnuGZpZmhKs How can even a saint become a murderer?: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d5WmiZ2ooLBmntk

[@VineetMishra-yq9bg]

So kundali of shri Ram or Shri Krishna are made after 1st century?? They're not described in Ramayana or Shrimad Bhagawatam ??🫣🤔

[@VineetMishra-yq9bg]

What about Birth of Meghnath??😢

[@vamsikrishna3855]

Your laugh is quite irritating. Can you stop that

[@ParthSharma-e3y]

found the channel through the "why we add A after hindi words in english" and damn your channel is a goldmine this is all 100% my comfort content and btw it was the indo greek dynasties such as scythians [shakas] parthians [pallavas] and kushanas who brought the jyotish shastra of greeks into india from 200 BC to 10AD

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@ParthSharma-e3y Absolute bunk! This can only come from someone who assumes that the 12-fold division of horizon = "ASTROLOGY" and knows nothing else.

[@kshitij260794]

Pure quality work! This is very much needed in the era of growing dogmatism in India.

[@russtytan8080]

Getting astrology app's ad on this is crazy

[@Mkayou]

😂😂 I got that just now

[@rajeshgoyal6671]

Same😂

[@Dipun7788]

Power of algorithms 😂😂

[@jojosoni]

Sending this to family group 😁 such an underrated channel. Keep it up guys

[@TheFutureIQ]

Thank you so much for spreading the word! Greatly appreciated! ♥️ - Shrikant and team FIQ

[@CHIRAGPERLA]

Such an underrated channel! I am learning so much from you guys! Thank you, keep it up!!! 😁

[@bharathutra]

Just amazing explanation, so fasinating to find out these mysteries !! Rahu and Ketu blow my mind

[@explore4403]

This is what happens when material or newtonian science based science based facts are used to analyze quantum science based concepts or maybe psychology based concepts. It is like expecting the eyes to hear sounds. But the good thing is that he is accepting that it is just his speculation.

[@JN_India]

Super stuff 🙏🙏🙏loved it. Learnt some historical perspective too. Thx and please continue to enlighten

[@gsmrg]

Very informative. Should also have explained how birth chart or kundali is accurate and independent way of recording date,time,place which stays valid across era, irrespective of how many time calendar system, timezone, daylight saving etc keeps changing.

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@gsmrg This question arises because you have no clue about what a chart is.

[@nikunj.bansal]

Thank you for sharing such valuable and insightful information

[@PhotoninDark]

Those who say, Jyotish( modern day astrology in India) isn't BS, come up with a logical argument or any concrete study based evidence instead of saying theyre pushing west propaganda or blah blah blah

[@PiyushDhakane]

Correct. Horoscope itself is a western propoganda

[@NonDual-t2x]

You dont need to go further. Just understand how panchang is made

[@PhotoninDark]

@@NonDual-t2x by jyotish I meant modern day astrology. I'm aware of the ancient practice of dating and calendat making in India. That should be promoted and respected but nonsensical astrology/rashifal/kundli overshadow the actual science.

[@NonDual-t2x]

@@PhotoninDark totally agree!!!

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@PhotoninDark That's because Indic astrologers started imitating Western astrology for the sake of money.

[@Pasdpawn]

Before even starting this video i can say it was Yavanajataka but if the greeks came in touch with india not more then 3000 years ago, how was Valmiki able to write horoscopes on the basis of Lord Ram's birth? Does it imply that Ramayana happened after greek invasion or whatever?

[@narutouzumaki2157]

Later additions to the scriptures.

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@narutouzumaki2157 Yes texts could obviously have been edited but that has nothing to do with astrology

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@narutouzumaki2157 Irrelevant gibberish

[@tanmaymathur6833]

maybe the Ramayana story got updated after the contact with Greeks, this updates with next editions keeps happening everywhere in the world

[@ThomasAnderson-u4j]

Where does the Surya Siddhanta comes into picture ? Please recommend some good books based on this topic with scientific support. 🙏🏼 thank you

[@Mrp8292]

Amazing and so logical explanation that even somewhat a logical person get convinced by not believing in Jyotish shashtra!

[@nishantssinha00]

Can you have debate with KN rao ?

[@krunalpatel6337]

Debate with KN Rao? These two idiots won't be able to debate with me.

[@anjalimewade5211]

Mind blowing episode....I was always thinking that sometimes I will get my answer for astrology...today you have explained it was excellent.

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@anjalimewade5211 They themselves have no clue what they're saying

[@anjalimewade5211]

@@parjanyashukla176 they are saying correctly...we have to understand

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@anjalimewade5211 They have discussed nothing here and are basically using a strawman device. If you want a perspective on astrology and its details it's not very difficult to find details on the internet.

[@HumanistLogic]

सिर्फ एक सवाल कोई ग्रह इंसान पर कैसे असर डालता है मीडियम क्या है उसका ? सूर्य हो या चंद्रमा जो भी प्रभाव डालते है वो क्षेत्र और स्थान के हिसाब से सभी पर एक सा पड़ता है लेकिन DOB और TOB से भेद करके कोई ग्रह कैसे असर डाल सकता है ? 🤔🤔 आजतक एक भी ज्योतिष ये जवाब नही दे पाया ।

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@HumanistLogic भाई साहब, ग्रह नक्षत्रों का स्थूल रूप आप खुद हैं । इसको योग की भाषा में "स्थूल शरीर - सूक्ष्म शरीर - कारण शरीर" कहा गया है ।

[@tatvafnu6604]

There is an ancient saying "Give a commentary on something if you really have studied the topic deeply and mastered it".

[@IchbinChandra]

One thing I dislike about KZbin channels is that they are one way, there is no way to debate or discuss the various aspects of the topic or even ask clarifying questions. I guess that's why it is so easy to just spill whatever you think or to be more precise spill biased thoughts.

[@amarjyotisatapathy5989]

This talk seems absurd. How about पराशर, भृगु, जैमिनी? They born much before than Greek interactions. Then how did they learn from Greeks?

[@rajeshgoyal6671]

These guys parrot western narrative on every topic

[@parjanyashukla176]

​@@rajeshgoyal6671 Correct

[@PhotoninDark]

Read History and Purans like texts properly. All the kings in ancient times we're given other names after the nakshatra they were born in not Rashi. Like Pushyamitra Shunga. 90% of Jyotish we know today isn't actual ancient Jyotish but a Greek crap which Indians are still carrying on their heads.

[@parjanyashukla176]

​​@@PhotoninDark It isn't, only partially so - the 12-fold division of the zodiac is imported from Greeks, but that's it. And it doesn't matter much whether you use planets or stars. Of course you have no idea that's why you're talking like this. The 12 houses are further divided into padas each.

[@PhotoninDark]

@@parjanyashukla176 All of this doesn't matter because all of this is pseudoscience.

[@parjanyashukla176]

What an utterly shallow discussion. He is talking about astronomy basics and making judgements on astrology. "Astrology" is definitely BS but not "astrologers" - i.e. systematized and generalized predictions are rubbish but that is a modern phenomenon linked to capitalism and materialism. It didn't start with Greeks but with British. Only the horizon division is a Greek import. And even in the chart, we don't use the rashis much, the nakshatras superimpose on the rashis. If you know your nakshatra, you automatically know your nakshatra. (For example, when I know that I am Moola nakshatra, I am automatically Dhanu). However, high calibre astrologers can basically "read" the entire person as a photograph and I have met them and talked with them personally. In the pre-Greek era, the (Sun-moon + Nodal points + 27 nakshatras) were used. After Greeks, (7 planets + Nodal points + 12 rashis) have been used. These two frameworks are different, but the analysis will still be the same. You can process your data in an Excel sheet or in a Python dataframe - will the analysis depend on the technology being used?

[@chicawhappa]

This channel is pretty "omg XYZ isn't Indian, it has to come from phoren only, only greeks, egyptians, babylonians figured things out, never Indians", it's pathetic.

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@chicawhappa It's more than enough now, and these kinds of nonsensical videos are all over the place on YT.

[@Vineet-k2j]

Astronomy is utterly bullshit and useless for a common man Where as Astrology jyotish is the management of god Mirror of one life

[@beyes5116]

*Sometimes facts hurts radical nationalism* But nature don’t have national, evolution don’t have national, history until recent didn’t have national, migration until recently didn’t have national.

[@sensusanto]

from where do you get so much of wrong information and present it so confidently ?? 😅

[@prachipawnaskar5954]

I had a friend who doesn't believe in astrology. He was facing resistance from his family for his love marriage. I showed his kundali to a astrologer I trust in . Astrologer predicted that his marriage will be fixed twice and get cancelled. And then he will marry his chosen girl. It did come true. First marriage there was approval and then the girl changed her mind. Second time he and a girl were tricked into getting engaged against their wishes. They cancelled it later Finally he married the girl he wanted. This prediction from the astrologer is pretty specific

[@krato6468]

well when you tell him that his will marry the third girl, obviously he will want to do it. If you ask the astrologer and then not tell him at all (no signs, nothing), then only it will be an interesting thing. What happens after you tell him about the astrologer is more like self fulfilling prophecy because he knows about it.

[@IntegratedServicesExcellence]

So finally you got ladoos.... Bhabhi kese he ...How many kids ... Is there any specific jyotish for the first night aftet marriage

[@saty1694]

avoid amavasya, bcoz its dark at night. wow great explanation, n what about day? people starts jouney in the morning those day not at night.

[@shahanshahpolonium]

why studio change

[@garg738]

Wow your research is so shallow it makes a puddle look like an ocean. Picking a few random facts and acting like you have done actual research on the subject.😂

[@lightningbolt4560]

thats a bold claim, what do you think they missed, where were they wrong?

[@NaDadiga]

Make a video refuting their claims, simple. Or comment on your disagreements under the video.

[@grapeshott]

He doesn't claim to teach you PhD. But the facts he presented are correct, and astrology is BS

[@rajeshgoyal6671]

​@@grapeshottWhat facts?? Half of the video he is "speculating" to push his beliefs

[@PhotoninDark]

​@@rajeshgoyal6671 Astrology is BS. This fact. Sad that even today an average so called "educated" Indian will get offended if Astrology is called BS.

[@shyamshet2171]

In puranas also rahu ketu were sitting near Sun and moon while amrit was being served, mind blowing😮

[@shrirambhandari1463]

I think we did use planets to determine the days of the week.

[@TheFutureIQ]

Yes, but that happened later. We will be publishing a short on this subject soon... :) - Shrikant

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@TheFutureIQ It doesn't even matter

[@umeshnarvekar2870]

Wowww.... Thank you so much You blown away the thought that every science originated in भारत 😂😂 Great work guys Thank you so much again.

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@umeshnarvekar2870 When it did, at that time people exchanged ideas freely. Iran and India at that time were basically one country.

[@naturalhealingcentre6521]

What brought about the days of the weeks and the many Mantras attached to them 🌹

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@naturalhealingcentre6521 Days of week are irrelevant. Only lunar date is relevant.

[@tanmaymathur6833]

You should make videos in Hindi also, so that we can share with our parents and grandparents to make them understand.

[@rajeshgoyal6671]

About Rahu and Ketu If you read there stories of vaishnav tradition and read Ganesh stories You will find parallel themes And these traditions go way before 1st AD and Greeks Jyotish is study of Light(in much more broad sense unlike Einstein's work) and is not merely Calendar work and muhurat

[@Raghukuleshgsrk]

Please make a Hindi & all regional languages dub so that we can share it in family groups full of BS

[@narayanamarather5393]

WE ARE PROUD INDIANS WE KNEW AND OBSERVED CELESTIAL MOVEMENTS WHEN EUROPEANS ARE HUNTING

[@avx4281]

Informative. Thank u.

[@HumanistLogic]

सिर्फ एक सवाल कोई ग्रह इंसान पर कैसे असर डालता है मीडियम क्या है उसका ? सूर्य हो या चंद्रमा जो भी प्रभाव डालते है वो क्षेत्र और स्थान के हिसाब से सभी पर एक सा पड़ता है लेकिन DOB और TOB से भेद करके कोई ग्रह कैसे असर डाल सकता है ? 🤔🤔 आजतक एक भी ज्योतिष ये जवाब नही दे पाया ।

[@TheFutureIQ]

@HumanistLogic (Apologies for answering in English but I think and write better in the language.) I think it started because the ancients saw certain patterns repeating whenever the planets 'occupied' certain 'houses' of the zodiac. Initially, they matched weather and environment patterns to the night sky - calendaring, as I mentioned. Then, once the horoscope concept percolated to individual levels, they tried reframing the same explanation for individuals. For example, 'plant seeds when X constellation is at Y position' became 'Start a new venture when X planet is in Y house' which then got converted to, 'Oh, X planet is in Y house, which means this is a good time to start a new venture.' Weak correlation was mistakenly assumed to be causation and then reversed because it gave an external locus of control. Again, this is my hypothesis and I won't claim it is 100% true or right. - Shrikant

[@HumanistLogic]

@@TheFutureIQ जी मुझे भी लगता है ऐसे ही हुआ होगा । पर जब हमारी विज्ञान और प्लेनेट की जानकारी हो गयी हमे पता है कि कोई ग्रह नक्षत्र इस तरह से पृथ्वी पर असर नही डालते तब तो इन कपोल कल्पना को बन्द कर देना चाहिए लेकिन नही लोगो को मूर्ख बनाना चालू है ।

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@TheFutureIQ Your hypothesis is incorrect. They weren't doing data analytics in those times - thankfully they weren't so stupid. You're assuming that the kind of mind people have today existed all through the past.

[@PankajKumar6493]

@@parjanyashukla176 bhai kitne paise mile h propaganda failane ke? Har jagah comment kare ja rhe ho

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@PankajKumar6493 Ek chavanni bhi nahin. Propaganda ye log phaila rahe aur ilzaam mujhpar laga rahe - Chor kotwal ko daant raha!

[@ANILKUMAR-ic1ms]

Anchor laughing like he come up with theory of relativity & others who lived 2000 years back are illiterate.... Pls grow your brain & don't behave like a organic chemist who individually discovered n no's of compounds 🙏

[@akilansundaram2181]

Astrology is a business. Sure, the positive predictions from astrologers help people feel good and less anxious and all. And like explained in the video, many of the predictions are self-fulfilled prophecies. It isn't a science but just like religion helps people get over fear of the future and stress.

[@TheFutureIQ]

Well put, thanks! Your statements remind me of the famous quote, "Religion is the opiate of the masses." And like all opiates, too much is a very bad thing! - Shrikant

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@TheFutureIQ What does "religion" have to do here? Does every aspect of culture and human existence come under the subsume-all rubric of "religion"? By that logic all humans can only be robots and there cannot be any room for poetry, philosophy or literature or arts. 🤣🤣

[@Unknown-mn5pq]

underrated channel😮‍💨🙃

[@rajagopalp9502]

Good debate, theories are correct like Allopathic, in fact even allopathic can't save from death, similarly all kinds of arts and knowledge will be best with professionals, an artist will know depth of art.

[@viralvieralmehta8613]

In joytish sashtra ... there is ganit and chalit. Basically ganit is related to astronomy and so calenders to other importent astronomical inventions / discovery are credited to this ganit jyotisha including earth is round and not flat .... Charity jyotisha is all about astrology based on calculations of your birth chart and 27 Nakshatra. This chalit jyotisha is a Grey area though not everything you can say is humbug but in 21st century you can say some of it is humbug or has evolved in to humbug which was not the idea originally nor was it meant to be . There absoultly no doubts that movements of planet's and sun and moon ( yes sun too moves around the black hole in the center of the galaxy] dose effect state of our mind. Even a change in weather effects our mind thus every thing is not humbug in this chalit jyotisha.

[@prasadds346]

One if ur 1st videos which ws not at all convincing......u need to do more research please

[@yj9032]

Just because it doesn't fit your narrative it doesn't mean it's not right 😂

[@mithamurali9945]

But in ramayana and Mahabharata predictions had been done and both were before greek!!!

[@narutouzumaki2157]

Later Edition.

[@mithamurali9945]

@@stuv_wx yeah might be but based on the beliefs , customs ,and traditions then

[@HumanistLogic]

सिर्फ एक सवाल कोई ग्रह इंसान पर कैसे असर डालता है मीडियम क्या है उसका ? सूर्य हो या चंद्रमा जो भी प्रभाव डालते है वो क्षेत्र और स्थान के हिसाब से सभी पर एक सा पड़ता है लेकिन DOB और TOB से भेद करके कोई ग्रह कैसे असर डाल सकता है ? 🤔🤔 आजतक एक भी ज्योतिष ये जवाब नही दे पाया ।

[@ArunSharma-ij5pw]

Anybody told you that you look a little bit like Lakshay Choudhary?

[@TheFutureIQ]

Just looked him up and... 👀 - Shrikant

[@Raja33352]

I think your knowledge is from Wikipedia and not from Jyothi Shastra. You should study jyothi’s Shastra completely and than analyze it. Not with half knowledge. I doubt do you even know how many subjects are there under Jyotish Shastra? First read bruhajjatakam and decide it than you analyze and say these things.

[@IntegratedServicesExcellence]

You can explain here

[@theresponsibleuser90]

Most of the podcast videos are bullshit except these ❤

[@snglvl]

Shani is in the fifth of whatever 😂😂😂

[@rupaltelecom6086]

Why the other guy makes shitty faces while talking and this orange tshirt guy is a encyclopaedia knows each and every thing and on any topic

[@dr.manoharpandit1981]

Big BS, little logic and more of flight of fantacy. Pity the guy

[@successaprocess]

Jyotish is not BS.

[@Arpita_Ch]

You lost me when you trolled the impact of the planet sitting in a particular house. Little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Dont push your personal ideals in the name of logic.

[@Mel-by7re]

Yes what he says is true. Astrology is not from India itself also its not good to rely on astrology. Rather positive thinking, true divine connection which is nothing but our inner self connection these are the most important things in life. the worst part of aryans coming into India is the loss of true spirituality and 99% indians today are stuck in outer religious rituals, hindu fanaticism, vedic stuff etc... and no inner connection or real spirituality which can ultimately liberate a human. The good news is if we really look for real spiritual essence and how to liberate ourselves, we can find it ditching away the commercial gurus.

[@jayinaryan9319]

There is no knowledge of History u have

[@MallikaRaj]

This guy has zero logic.... What ever he says not true. Please debate with KN rao or Dilip kumar.

[@Psycho_sapien]

😂

[@krunalpatel6337]

Well acted...but both of them are idiots

[@yj9032]

I can't understand why people believe in this crap

[@omved9217]

Just know a little to criticize something doesn’t seem like a good idea. Although this is the trend I see all over KZbin. Our esteemed hosts should talk to somebody who has in-depth knowledge of this subject, crosscheck their criticism and if verified then only post the video on KZbin. Otherwise Please stop spreading fake news for cheap publicity and money. Thank you.

[@nvspraneeth901]

I think you made this video during solar eclipse.. 😂 Never saw anyone going wild and nuts during solar eclipse unless one is a jaggi fartgooroo bhakt.. Also its the greek who had the worlds first analog computer to map motions of planet which we now call antikeythera, it looks we add more bs to it than them.😂 Rather there is scant proof of any rishis of that time and their language "Sanskrut" itself, everything we actually find and not believe blindly is Buddhist and in Pali/prakrit

[@parjanyashukla176]

@@nvspraneeth901 Buddha himself was a Kshatriya, 🤣

[@Pasdpawn]

9 graha excluding earth fyi

[@HumanistLogic]

सिर्फ एक सवाल कोई ग्रह इंसान पर कैसे असर डालता है मीडियम क्या है उसका ? सूर्य हो या चंद्रमा जो भी प्रभाव डालते है वो क्षेत्र और स्थान के हिसाब से सभी पर एक सा पड़ता है लेकिन DOB और TOB से भेद करके कोई ग्रह कैसे असर डाल सकता है ? 🤔🤔 आजतक एक भी ज्योतिष ये जवाब नही दे पाया ।

[@TheFutureIQ]

Yeah, I didn't count earth in the list I recited - Budh, Shukra, Mangal, Guru, and Shani are the 5 planets. Rahu, Ketu, sun, and moon are the other 4. :) - Shrikant

[@Pasdpawn]

Note to the editors, please use desi people as stock images or footages instead of white folks to give it more indic touch