Sitting here in 2023, Bron is the all-time leading scorer, 4 rings, 4 finals MVPs, 4 MVPs, and universally regarded as 1 of the 2 best players in the history of the game.
@mrpassrush1 Жыл бұрын
Amazing right?
@shervinwilliams378911 ай бұрын
Ain’t that the truth. Stephen A in a throwaway statement says Kareem record is impossible to reach. Whole time the man they’re debating about would ultimately do it. Sports is sports. Don’t really need the takes from these guys on tv talking a bunch of drivel.
@TheRealTurkFebruary10 ай бұрын
Universally? A lot of people have Kobe ahead of him, and many others still don’t have him in their top 5… I’m not saying LeBron is or isn’t l, but “universally” is a big stretch.
@TheJohnWick110 ай бұрын
Objectively Lebron is a solidified top 5 player ever maybe not 1 or 2 in some people's opinion but he's top 5, saying Lebron isn't top 5 in 2023 is just delusional nonsense
@itshiho9 ай бұрын
Nope he's #3 or #4
@BKLYN92 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny he thought KD would pass Kareem all without mentioning Bron and low and behold Lebron is about to pass Kareem wow
@zachsmart8569Ай бұрын
He prob would of if not for the injuries
@CatoProductionАй бұрын
@@zachsmart8569Bron would pass him first. Matter of fact if bron wasn’t injured and missed like 40-50 games during the first 3 yrs of the lakers early years he would’ve been passed kareem.
@sbcandmagnum10 ай бұрын
Larry the unshakeable, clutch, hard-nosed, intelligent, ultra-competitive, leader Bird. No melt downs no blame deflecting, no fear, all the intangibles.
@ricegum266110 ай бұрын
Bird had back to back 8 point playoff games lmaoooo he’s straight ass
@Gabriel-sh3ms9 ай бұрын
lol typical casual that never bothered to know birds career and just blindly listens to what other casuals say. Bird had a PLETHORA of meltdowns and chokejobs. 1982 2nd round 1st seeded Celtics vs 3rd seeded 76ers. Bird loses to them averaging a horrible 18 pts on 41% fg and 20% 3fg. 1983 2nd round vs the Moncrief Bucks. SWEPT by the bucks averaging another pathetic 19 pts on 44% 1987 finals vs lakers : elimination game 6 : bird in the biggest game of the season puts up a terrible 16 pts on 37% fg and outplayed terribly by magic 1988 2nd round vs Pistons : Averaged a pedestrian 20 pts on a horrible 35% fg and 16 pts in the elimination game 6 1991 2nd round vs pistons : averaged 13 pts on 38% fg enuff said
@shervinwilliams378911 ай бұрын
Meanwhile Lebron exceeded every expectation. All time scorer and he’s a pass first player. Incredible.
@AnthonyBdope-ez8bs5 ай бұрын
Lebrons not a pass first player he's a great all around player his best ability is his scoring
@kapo2012fb3 ай бұрын
Played 21 ofc
@CatoProductionАй бұрын
@@AnthonyBdope-ez8bsyes he is pass first. Some may look at assist but passing doesn’t equate assists all the time so there isn’t a stat to show it. Just because he scores 27 doesn’t mean he doesn’t pass first. Bron passes leads to him scoring. He may pass to get himself a cut to the basket or to set himself up to score.
@goldenstatewarriors9418 Жыл бұрын
This isn’t a debate. LeBron is the greatest forget small forward, he’s the greatest forward ever and it’s not close.
@lxfluid3242 Жыл бұрын
This was back in 2014. In 2014 Lebron was barely a top 10 player at best and only had 2 rings and like 9 all stars and was criticized for it since he was still in Miami when this was made. Now he’s probably the greatest ever tho
@ofwhatusewastherule8889 Жыл бұрын
@@lxfluid3242 LMAO in 2014 Lebron was the best basketball player in the world, as Stephen A literally says in the video, and skip even agrees. Lebron was the best basketball player in the world from 2011 all the way to 2019. Only then you could say maybe KD.
@bayscit Жыл бұрын
@@ofwhatusewastherule8889dude 🤦🏻♂️ The guy above obviously meant top 10 all time not just in the league at that time.
@johnnyappleseed6889 Жыл бұрын
@@ofwhatusewastherule8889 curry was better in 2016 but you right until 2020 when Gianni’s took over and it’s been his league ever since
@coreybanks494311 ай бұрын
Lebron or pops mensah bonsu ? Whos better ?
@antwonmatthews51079 ай бұрын
7:10 we’ll ig that didn’t age well
@jacobhughes901011 ай бұрын
Lebron is better then Larry bird at every minute of every game. All 48 and OT if necessary
@mattyholcombe92589 ай бұрын
You are so ignorant
@jackwoods96046 ай бұрын
Birds Era Was Much Too Physical For Fragile Minded Lebron...Bird Did a Lot More Things Better Than Lebron
@foi98416 ай бұрын
@@jackwoods9604 you cant name more then 30 players who played in that era.
@JayRicoche4 ай бұрын
@@jackwoods9604Respect to Bird but he was 220lbs.
@sancho84415 ай бұрын
Back then, he said he hadn't had np wit duncan being on the bench. Nowadays, he says he does
@elroz1675Ай бұрын
Bird was a very good scorer, rebounder, and excellent passer - what SA Smith doesn't understand Bird impact the game with passing as much as with shooting. SAS speaks of Bird as if he never watched him. Bird made plays. One of the smartest players and most impactful. At his best he was certainly as good or better than Magic (VORP, Plus/Mins, OWS/DWS). Kareem "Larry Bird could do it all". I think that is way more valuable than SAS skewed take on Bird. The man either didnt watch 1980s and didnt understand what he saw. However, LeBron is one of 3 all time greats, probably #2 at worst but now more and more maybe #1. Bird wasn't so blessed physically - LeBron has the speed of Pippen, the size and power of Karl Malone, and can shoot the 3, more or less. Bird did make the 2nd All-D team, but LeBron is better on D due to his speed and power. Plus his longevity is unmatched!
@inoyvst678611 ай бұрын
In 2014 they were saying he’s the greatest small forward ever. 10 years later…2 more titles. 5 more finals appearances. 10 more all nba’s and Stephen a now says there’s no way Lebron could ever be better than jordan. 10 years in he was best small forward ever 10 more years of all nba play and he can’t be the goat. 10 MORE YEARS lol jordan only played 13 total all nba years lol Lebron had 9 at this point Has 10 more since and not the goat 😂 makes no damn sense
@jareddickerson51275 ай бұрын
It's not a matter of how many years you play in the NBA. Jordan accomplished more than Lebron in less time and never had to jump from team to team or have half his roster traded at the deadline.
@garrett29west11 ай бұрын
Steven A: 7:14 Goat King James: Hold my drink.
@salem92710 ай бұрын
He was talking about Durant there
@MarioMario-nj6kz9 ай бұрын
Why build a franchise around lebron when it’s proven bird will stay
@garyrichardson4844 Жыл бұрын
On one first take steve said bird wA better now he flipped. Thiscrap is soap opera at its best
@ligeswish389911 ай бұрын
Bron was still playing so he had time to pass him
@dumisatonyjohnson81454 жыл бұрын
Yes
@mr.h3lmsl3yАй бұрын
5 years after Bron retires , he will start being called the GOAT a lot more.. The time the next generational talent that reaches him and Jordan’s level, it’ll be at least 30 years
@moneymoney3235Ай бұрын
Wemby is the next. Lebron beat 73-9 team who had the best shooters ever and lead both finals teams in points, assist. Steals, blocks, AND rebounds. Wemby is gonna be the best defensive player ever. Dpoy every season he’s healthy. Will beat Tim Duncan’s defense team record if healthy.
@mr.h3lmsl3yАй бұрын
@@moneymoney3235 I feel you … but Grant Hill was the next Jordan as well (could argue he was Bron before Bron) … and so was Stackhouse , Vince Carter, Michael Finley … I hope Wemby is elite , but I doubt he gonna be on that level
@goatstature8263 Жыл бұрын
B4 mj won a championship in 1990 skip said he was the greatest player ever now with lebron 2 consecutive championships he cant even be the greatest small foward ever? Smh
@Physics072 Жыл бұрын
Not sure you can call a Ring chaser the greatest at anything but chasing rings. Great but not the greatest. I'd take Bird much better under pressure and much higher BB IQ.
@davidtaggart6636 Жыл бұрын
Objectively not true
@davidtaggart6636 Жыл бұрын
@Toasted' Nugget_' dudes a D1 delusional hater
@James-Lifts Жыл бұрын
Lmfaoooooooo
@lakeshowbron474711 ай бұрын
Delusional
@kevinboje758411 ай бұрын
u've lost ur mind
@razkable4 күн бұрын
Bird over bron is a joke in the clutch...same for kd
@robertdiehl12818 ай бұрын
Of course completely disagree with SAS. Bird helped his team win games without scoring. Never quit. So, with and without the ball…Bird.
@ydkwtfyd2 ай бұрын
Fans are delusional when it comes to the nba……
@KT-mw2jt Жыл бұрын
Tell me when Larry is the NBA’s all-time leading scorer and has over 10,000 career assists and over 10,000 rebounds. Cause I know lebron is about to be there 🤷🏾♂️
@jackwoods9604 Жыл бұрын
Longevity Numbers...Prime to Prime Bird was Simply Better Than Lebron...Better in Playoffs...Better in Finals...Clutch Gene...Bird was The Better Player
@ha4b635 Жыл бұрын
@@jackwoods9604 nonsense....prime to prime Lebron went 9 straight finals.
@therealdakshina1051 Жыл бұрын
@@ha4b635 he went to finals coz the east was weak
@ha4b635 Жыл бұрын
@@therealdakshina1051 9 straight times?? Knock it off.
@therealdakshina1051 Жыл бұрын
@@ha4b635 what good team in the east did he actually beat?
@deihorus7927 Жыл бұрын
People are really trying to make the most known flopper in the world into the GOAT, a guy who cannot shot a Free Throw, a guy that dunking has the same 2p% as Bird shooting, a guy with one of the worse clutch % in the league, world famous as a flopper and a whinner, change teams , stat chaser.... and I can go on. Is plain shameful that a generation want to consider this type of player in the GOAT list. Is a shame for an entire generation.
@johnnyappleseed6889 Жыл бұрын
Ur gonna die one day, and the next generations are gonna forget about you, and will only think of Jordan as the mascot for sneakers
@lakeshowbron474711 ай бұрын
Someone seems hurt
@SlickRick5611 ай бұрын
@Toasted' Nugget_' THANK U BRO. casuals jus say anything even when its not tru. these sheep jus fall for myths💀🤡
@kevinboje758411 ай бұрын
looks like we've found another retard
@pina9949 Жыл бұрын
Lol do you need to think about that.
@lxfluid3242 Жыл бұрын
This was 2014. Lebron was bottom of the top 10 at very best in 2014. Now he’s not only the greatest forward ever but probably the greatest ever
@aaanawaleh9 ай бұрын
@@lxfluid3242 Greatest forward ever yes, I'd still say he's second all time in the goat debate. Overall though, Lebron is closer to first than he is to third place.
@michaelwhitfield2303 Жыл бұрын
Wrong Stephen A, the dude bout to get catch and pass Kareem
@jayperez95518 күн бұрын
No , Larry Bird was levels above
@marcfolkman307810 ай бұрын
Larry bird averaged 16 ppg in a finals W…so yes he would
@HarmanHundal012 жыл бұрын
Bird played in a much tougher era than LeChoke did. End of Story.
@solobusiness43202 жыл бұрын
You do realize that in 7 of lebrons finals had 3 ,4 hall of famers on the warriors and the Spurs
@ezirulez4eva1752 жыл бұрын
U mean much tougher east
@HarmanHundal012 жыл бұрын
@@ezirulez4eva175 Bird played against 4 players in the all time top 10 and 6 players in the all time top 25. Bird played against 3 dynasties (The 76ers, Lakers and Pistons) Contrast that with Jordan. Jordan, in his championship winning years played against only 2 players in the all time top 25 and had one of the top 25 all time players on his own team (Scottie pippen). He beat only one dynasty, the Pistons when the Pistons were old. LeBron played against even weaker competition.
@solobusiness4320 Жыл бұрын
@@HarmanHundal01 weaker competition Steph curry is now a top ten player and Kevin Durant joined that team for 3 years
@kbak1919 Жыл бұрын
@@HarmanHundal01 players today are better than what they where in the 80s, thats just a fact. players are more athletic and more skilled period.
@antonioguglielmetti2661 Жыл бұрын
Bird is better
@jackwoods96042 жыл бұрын
Lebron was very overrated defensively
@suhailalmlahi70962 жыл бұрын
No he was not kid
@Abel-yo9mf Жыл бұрын
@@suhailalmlahi7096 yes he was goofy, he could never guard 1-5
@santiagojosebetancourthenr403 Жыл бұрын
He is one of the best blockers in history, in his days in Miami he could defend from 1-5, from 2008 to 2013-14 he was the most complete defender in the league. Only he is not a 1vs1 player like mike, kobe, kd, etc, he is one more player of reading the plays.
@trafalgar.d.waterlaw9355 Жыл бұрын
@@Abel-yo9mf he could of from 2010-2015 when he was a his defensive peak.
@KT-mw2jt Жыл бұрын
He was robbed of a defensive player of the year in 2013 when they gave it to Marc Gasol. You don’t got to be a Lebron Stan to understand the man was literally able to do it all at his absolute peak.
@donniepate23245 жыл бұрын
No lebron is not the greatest. Larry Bird NO.1
@birdyspeakz35464 жыл бұрын
Donnie Pate sure 🙄🙄🙄
@mike-gn1wi2 жыл бұрын
Boomer
@Supermariohoops242 жыл бұрын
@@birdyspeakz3546 At the time Bird still was… in 2022, LeBron is the best SF ever… but Jordan is still the Goat