Is MADMAN The New HYDRA GOD?!?!? | Raid: Shadow Legends

[@davidspencer8636]

Madman was one of my first rare champions when I started raid almost 3 years ago. I’ve fed so many copies of him since. It’s great to see an old friend doing well! Lol

[@Likmiknutz]

Yeah they did him good with the buff because his a1 never used to be that lol it was just attack one enemy had a 50% to attack again but it wasn't an AOE skill

[@Amrod2002]

They nerfed him cause it says the second hit is always normal now….

[@christopherrzepnicki4243]

I feel it is important to explain the math since I have heard about this a LOT....First off, a couple things: - Dmg on decapitated heads increase by 200% (3 times) - CAN crit - The 30% or 60% is based on hit (which is probably a crit) Now: Say all heads are decapitated. You hit Mischief for 1m damage. Trunda's stats includes 250% crit dmg (3.5 times the attack) 60% of that is 600k. Decapitation is x3 = 1.8m. When it crits, that is now x3.5= 6.3m For the example at around 4:40 in the video, Madman hits for 440,474. 30% is 132,142. 200% of that is 396,426. Judging from all the damage numbers seen in the video, i would guess your crit dmg on Madman is around 300%? Possibly as high as around 330% maybe? If so, then the math is EASILY explained. And as someone who does pretty well investing in the stock market...i agree, you would be extremely happy to have me help you lol. Anyways, hopes this clears things up. Have a wonderful day and happy holidays!

[@bango-ic6ko]

Madman becomes more viable with ally attack champions, longbeard (full team, ally attacks do a bonus 20%) and fahrakin (full team and brings extra buffs) probably being the more accessible options

[@NubRaids]

I think the mythical is the best one since she brings Inc atk and buff extension 👍

[@bango-ic6ko]

definitely, assuming you can get here, she's awesome@@NubRaids

[@TheRagzzz]

Keep up the great work Nubs. Nice to see a CC with a proper sense of reality that none of the others seem to possess anymore. One thing, you said you'd show the builds...?

[@bigvanhood]

Issue is they can’t call it a “fix”. They’ve repeatedly said Trunda works as intended, so Madman should be safe. If they touch that ability It’ll probably be the last push i need to leave Raid behind.

[@martinvidal2421]

F

[@kingrasta7888]

Just saw this from scratch the other day. Pulled many madmans but used as food of course. Gotta save a copy next pull.

[@Mrtheunnameable]

Working as intended. There is no nerf to worry about.

[@joshdolan7822]

Cadaver worked as intended as well.... that worked out well

[@stepanvalasek1913]

Thanks for that Razelvarg comparison. That was something I was curious about.

[@AuContraire00]

Wow! Would have loved to have seen his gear though-I know you said it was end game level, but need to know how far off we are from what you have to determine if he is worth building :)

[@NubRaids]

Sorry I forgot! It was about 6k atk, 220 cdmg (quite low really), 210 spd. Lethal and cruel gear, helmsmasher mastery

[@Greatness.Gaming]

8:04 I don't have Lydia, but another Decrease Def and Weaken champ is actually Spider!

[@Agostinho86]

2:48 not saying this is working as intended but there is one detail. The HP and Def of hydra head are not the same and there will always be some difference in damage. Im not that into hydra so im dont really know who has more defense or hp but im pretty sure that the damage it will deal will be different in all heads

[@DanielRcase]

Awesome I have been hanging on to my 5 star madman who was one of my first 5 stars for for over 2 years. I just haven’t had the heart to feed him. Kept thinking maybe I will 6 star him for secret rooms.

[@ShaynePatton]

Heya Nuub. Thx for another great vid! I'm curious... After watching, it seems like there's an epic that Madman has a lot in common with as far as setup & other team components, etc. That epic is Whisper. How do you think those 2 compare?

[@brent8783]

Seems to me like he's working as expected. The only reason I would imagine Palrium changes Madman is the perception of something being wrong from all the attention he's getting ATM. From what I've seen, it would be a mistake to change his kit or damage calculation. Part of being F2P friendly(ier) is that there are some rares that are exceptional if used correctly. It would be like saying, "Frozen Banshee does exceptional damage to demon lord and is only a rare, so Plarium has to nerf her." Of course that's BS - I think it helps the game overall when someone discovers utility for a particular fight. It's not like he's OP for Demon Lord, Dragon, Iron Twins, Shogun, Fire Knight or even Ice Golem. Spider could be interesting, but that's about it aside from Hydra.

[@itswoodimf]

Is it just me or did the build not be revealed?

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

Does anyone have the timestamp of the point where he shows the build? Watched the whole vid, but... something must've happened, 'cause I missed it. Thanks in advance!

[@odinson9686]

I have him at 50 with a 5 star blessing. Always suspected he had potential, just didn't have spare resources to build him beyond 50 and fw usage, f2p has to prioritize strictly. We'll see if I'll get around to 6 staring him after Lydia is secured.

[@geminiman6128]

8:41 I think you meant Supreme Galek. Ultimate Galek doesn't have a block buffs in his kit.

[@TheAEKaBeer]

I kept him as my rare faction guardian after hearing about him hitting pretty hard in the early days, might be worth building him since I have a 4 star soul on him.

[@TheAEKaBeer]

Hey Nuby, Marquess does the conditional double hit with crush the weak, people used to compare the damage to Trunda. Do you think she might be the next rare after madman gets nerfed? 😅

[@michaeledes1111]

How do you have 6 keys, is that a test server thing?

[@CGAPU]

Should I build him, or is he going to get nerfed?

[@Martdogg3000]

This is interesting, I think he's probably strong in an an auto team too- with Trunda there's a lot of luck as to whether her abilities are going to actually be off cooldown when you have heads decapitated. This guy mitigates that a bit. I'll probably try him out.

[@andrewlloyd8988]

One extra thing. He is great damage in DT secret room. The hard spirit rare is a tough room but he is great

[@bytemevv-4616]

_NUB READ THIS: I've been playing around and created a fun New Anti-Devoure Hydra Team..._ _If you have Valkanen you can use Sun Wukong which many have tried that already but,_ _...I've come up with a New Hydra Team using Valkanen with 2x Brakus & 2x Siphis & Wukong !_

[@ziren3602]

Is this still accurate? Was he nerfed?

[@leedunning1825]

It would be a shame if they take the nerf stick to Madman. 130 million is a far cry from the billions Corpulant Cadaver enabled. Let a few rares have a chance to shine. He isn't so overpowered he breaks Hydra in an outlandish manner.

[@stephengillenwaters1950]

Fooded that guy so many times...now I'm regretting it and waiting to get him again so I can experiment with him. Great content Nubs!!!

[@CHUD69247]

OMFG.....I litterally had to pause and leave a comment...this mofo said, "You've spent 100K on this game, let's go baby it is your time to shine!" I'M DEAD

[@Max-ej4oh]

Update: Plarium dislikes fun and they nerfed him, no longer viable.

[@dylank.4498]

So how when do we expect a nerf on him?

[@janosaudron564]

Did I miss the build?

[@Usernamenopassword]

Do you play gw2?

[@renescherer631]

Since Madman "works as intended" and 30% equal to 3x more damage than the initial hit the proc is based on, I wish I could invest in Plarium dividend stocks "as intended". Given this "math" I would invest 1000€ with a divident return of 2% annualy and instead of receiving 20€ I'd get 2000€. YAY! I'd be smiling on my way to the back and back :D

[@paulclarke8505]

Just avoid the fund run by the guy who implemented Fortus - that one promises 10% returns and delivers 2%.

[@williambo6682]

Don't worry any FTP champions for hydra will be nerfed

[@codycottreau8826]

well rare champions shouldent be meta to be fair

[@jacksonmentzel1056]

When has raid nerfed ftp champs for hydra...?

[@adamurban6315]

​@@codycottreau8826I would like to hear your opinion on Coldheart then ;)

[@SkullCrusher480]

@@adamurban6315 Coldheart is not hydra meta and neither is she relevant now

[@SkullCrusher480]

@@jacksonmentzel1056 never... people just like making stuff up

[@doughboyy2020]

Bro when did they put uncommons in the Sylvan watchers???

[@kieranklein2527]

A few days ago

[@alexandreesquenet3736]

I tried, not that good if you don't put ridiculous gears on him.

[@dd_zzero6827]

He is doing more damage by himself then my whole team on hard. Whether he is great or not, he is an improvement for me.

[@collincutler4992]

How long until this "working as intended" champ is nerfed??

[@JoeLeasure]

I love that he may be the most ridiculous looking champion too, lol.

[@Dominick_1502]

give credit to skratch who figure it out first

[@NubRaids]

I wasn't sure if he was the one who invented it. If so then yeah fair play 👍

[@paulclarke8505]

Skratch's video says he heard about it from Saff, and it didn't sound like it was Saff's idea either.

[@jaeranando]

But he didn't. Since you're so concerned with being the credit police go find out who discovered this first.

[@chrisandrews503]

It isn't the champ who's broken. It's the coding and calculations behind it all. once that's fixed, all "broken" champs will be working as intended (i.e. Trunda). Also, restricting the Hydra Clash so it has no duplicate champions will level the playing field quite a bit.

[@vernonsaliard3824]

Just like cadaver so when will the this is bad for game crap start?

[@marcelschreck61]

am i blind? cant see the builds in the video

[@isykipapa3657]

Clearly working as intended.

[@playnwitu]

Bro please show the gear and masteries when spotlighting a champion.

[@NubRaids]

Was in a rush and forgot, mb! Approx 6k atk, 220 cdmg

[@playnwitu]

@@NubRaids appreciate your response bro, you’re the man! Any particular sets you ran or stats over sets was the goal?

[@NubRaids]

@@playnwitu cruel and lethal. Tbh I should've ditched the cruel to get his cdmg higher

[@playnwitu]

@@NubRaids 🙏🏾 truly truly appreciate you and your efforts, you transformed me as it pertained to hydra, forever grateful ✊🏾✊🏾

[@BasementPepperoni]

Ugh. As much as I'd like to build this guy up, just having more than 1 team that can do more than 5-10 million damage is a pain in the ass. The whole thing of having my buffs constantly being stolen, then fear on top of it? This is definitely a thing for people that've been playing for years or Krakens.

[@skenny1986]

None of the cc's have shared their builds for him...they know exactly what they're doing

[@MrIceberg759]

Skratch showed his and he had like 6k attk and 250 cd

[@NubRaids]

Big pharma paid for my silence

[@igornikolic82]

And when did you think to show us his build?

[@slyfondle1885]

Skratch made the exact same video a couple of days ago and did show the build, so just go and watch that.

[@silviuskirsch1]

Yea this 30% bullshit is intended but Emic did realy need a nerf because a hard to do void legendary fusion should get nerfed because he makes a rare too broken... and then kadaver still got nerfed and emic never rebuffed.

[@BigpopsMcGee]

Nerf him now!!!! Also, didn’t the company say she is working as intended??? It’s been a few years and I’m pretty sure they looked at the code already. Maybe they should change how her kits reads to get people to move on.

[@NubRaids]

That's just corporate speak for "we're not arsed fixing it" 😂 would be hilarious if that is gonna come back to bite them now 😂

[@paulclarke8505]

@@NubRaids At one company I worked at this was known as "working as implemented".

[@jonathanlaury2585]

Quick! Quick! Everyone scream to nerf Yumeko even if she's not involved!

[@06ikonos62]

Plarium soon will remove Yumeko and as a compensation they will give Ultimate Harrier for free 🤣

[@jonathanlaury2585]

@@06ikonos62 Haha don't give them any ideas!

[@12000thumber]

So after all that. You didn't show his build.

[@Doomtowndandy]

My honest opinion is the Hydra game mode is broken. I personally believe it was released without full testing and has way too much rng. The damage of Trunda and Madman can be fixed like they fixed it for Spider Hard. Since Hydra game mode is broken there will always be another champion someone finds to abuse it.😂

[@MikeB-nn4nh]

Have I missed it… don’t remember seeing any builds…

[@MrDeathzone666]

they nerfed him btw, second hit is now normal. for the people that want to build him. ( I just pulled him and build him, did not notice the nerf in the comments) bummer haha

[@AnthemDrums]

So when if the nerf coming. You know they will will.

[@aaronwilson3111]

All these content creators NEVER SHOW THE STATS OR BONUSES NEEDED TO ACHIEVE THIS LEVEL OF DAMAGE. Good rare champ, 100% not worth it if you don’t have top tier stats or bonuses

[@emmanuelirmiya3082]

He nerfed tho

[@janitor8884]

Can they nerf madman already

[@TheRyanandKimberly]

Here's another video idea for you. Tell us if Lua can do the same thing as Madman but better.

[@nicodemus802]

short answer: she can't

[@TheRyanandKimberly]

Her A1 uses a different damage calculation? The wording makes it seem like the same thing.@@nicodemus802

[@SH-wz3jo]

Inquisitor Shaemal is not FTP and all your teams have him.

[@jonfly101]

if they want to keep trunda them they might aswell keep him the same

[@Jeff_Raids]

Shout out to Sin Clan

[@kingkaiser2]

He’s definitely getting nerf I’m not even going to waste resources 😂😂😂

[@nephewhill2678]

Why don’t y’all push for a nerf for him? Since the other ftp champ was such an issue? Don’t do it people as soon as you invest in him rank him up , gear him up, they’re gonna push to get him nerfed, watch and see!

[@SkullCrusher480]

what? which champ was nerfed? that champ that required a legendary and 2 void legendaries just to work?

[@russskidmore6893]

Another reason to nerf acrizia and yumeko ... stop it with this crap.

[@jeremims9044]

Not going to nerf void legos people paid for. That's a good way to lose whales, and your game's lifeblood.

[@johnnathanmontaggioni6097]

y need ally attack

[@RandomNY1234]

I would like just to get to 10 million on hard.

[@noahmaddox7182]

They will nerf another rare so it can't compete with other legendaries lol

[@mkkalin7495]

To beautyfull to be real soon plarium nerf him 😅

[@vernonsaliard3824]

So I guess you guys will be calling for a few more nerfs hmm?

[@Wolcik3000]

sad nerf

[@khaostvmedia]

People shouting for cadaver nerf from before, congratulations, not only it did nothing, but also introduced more cancer teams. Clearly the stupidity from the side of the community knows no bounds, now that we have established that, is Plarium going to reinstate cadaver and Emic to their former glory and fix Hydra clash from another perspective instead or they want to continue nerfing champions because new broken strategies are just going to be introduced and surely there will be new cry babies from the player base emerging now and then.

[@SkullCrusher480]

Cadaver did upwards of 2B on hydra... Madman can barely do 150M.

[@stanleyclark923]

"Clearly the stupidity from the side of the community knows no bounds" Coming up with new ways to win against content is stupidity? Most people call it playing the game.

[@unkind4045]

cadaver still does 1B in hydra, madman is not even close to acrizia grazzur sulfuryion and a lot more

[@slicktrillarreal1829]

S z b. ,4❤

[@MrCoCoKrp]

Why even bother doing a video like this? Made us lose time waiting for a build which never came. Thats a bit unpreofessional

[@michaelbrennan20]

leave us alone not all got 2 acrizia