Is Marco Polo Worth Getting In 2024?

[@mrunsung4479]

"No" Welcome back to wows 🤣

[@blackraen]

* See title, think "No." 0:00 "No." Yep. Expectations met.

[@nich7622]

Confirm. Marco Polo only somehow playable on SAPs, but it’s so unreliable that she’s arguably the worst BB 9tier so far. PQ right, she needs either buff HP or smokes(yes, there is none) or spotting aircraft with aiming buff.

[@Aceda007]

Ship request:Secondary shikishima (ignore the guy that wants ushakov)

[@jaxmathews4835]

I’ll take that too. It’s been too long since he’s played either

[@danielk2615]

I have full sec build Shiki with in fuse... main guns can be frustrating due to very very bad disp.. but fun with sec that can deal a lot of dam...

[@marcuscyl6653]

Lmao that "NO"

[@Pipe_Avileins]

I love this ship, but never relay on that italian BB dispersion. Actually, with Marco you can citadel light cuisers (like the british) with SAP. The key is: over 12 km or at a target not broadside use SAP, 12 km or less or broadsides pray to god and release the AP

[@Sock-qv9wr]

Yeah. Same here. I kinda disagree with the whole "ap is your main armament in Italian BBS" this, as I love Colombo and it's SAP. AP when you can guarantee citadels. SAP in every other case.

[@xxxthwagdrakexxx4672]

Yeah ngl I saw him play this ship on stream and it was frustrating to see him expect levels of Iowa precision on a ship line that was never accurate. There was this one game where he purposefully aimed for the "back turret" on a broadside Georgia and roon (as if this ship didn't have pen) and was surprised he got no cits when ships that aren't accurate should almost always be aimed center mass due to the wild dispersion.

[@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43]

@@Sock-qv9wr That statement stands more true for Veneto, Lepanto, and Colombo just because 380mm shells arm more regularly in those ships' matchmaking brackets. It does not stand for Marco Polo because of the additional penetration you get with those bigger guns. You need to use SAP to "pull your punches" or they go right through.

[@joedoe6444]

watched the end of this stream on twitch, the pain he was in was real. i bet he really hated putting this video together and reliving it....

[@Ultra-ZOV]

Ship request: Secondary Giuseppe Verdi

[@bella_ciao4608]

I feel like this thing should get a serious buff. If it’s gonna be the T9 counterpart to lauria, it should at least feel a little closer to it.

[@seraphis]

Kind of amazed this ship completely missed all the other Italian bb buffs.

[@Perry47395]

PQ! great vid as always? What is the Jacksonville (the Wooster looking ship in the 5v5 u showed us)

[@rigel4351]

It's a super wooster, quite annoying to deal with

[@Frigidblood]

Basically a 15-gun Worcester whose funny button is IFHE on demand.

[@fwootamala]

After watching your Twitch torture playing this ship, you did a great job staying professional and calm in this review.

[@laer6919]

yea too bad his streams aren't up to the same standard

[@Homebychristmas]

Me who has Marco Polo as most played ship, I agree I know it’s a terrible ship but it’s just a guilty pleasure of mine

[@dallaspease2685]

I agree with this sentiment. Also when you have a good game in it, it just feels so good

[@TheL0vecake]

You kidding me, i am down to 2 games a week and one of them i was a tier 8 cruiser with no heal in a battle against all tier 10's, and in the battle there was a total of 9 Wisconsin, i didn't have fun and after 8 years of playing i am looking at my 300 ships in port and just can't see the fun in any of them because of CVs, Subs, superships, *super CVs*, MM, WG, i don't even know why i still turn this game on anymore, i don't enjoy it.

[@ManuR-l4m]

Randoms are mostly insufferable. Ranked is my save haven for some fun.

[@jannegrey]

I just returned to playing after 2 years hiatus. Subs are bad at high Tiers, but if you learn them - you can deal with them, usually. CV's are highly situational. If you're DD that gets focused - well, it wasn't a good game. But even compared to before my hiatus I can see that now EVERYTHING is on monetization. No free signals, my cherished and often bought for money camouflages, are purely for decoration. You can't do stuff at reasonable pace without paying (retraining commander at level 14 - 20k experience, or money). Unless one thinks of playing 100 games a day without signals and economic buffs, just to have enough resources for 20 games with signals and "some" economy buffs. If it wasn't for challenges, operations and stuff like that, it would be too.... boring and annoying. I don't have as bad MM as you, but I still get some bad ones.

[@dzello]

Marco Polo struggles right now because you're compensated for having less guns, but you're not compensated for having no smoke. It goes from 380mm to 406mm guns in exchange for less guns, but it needs to go from 406mm to 457mm guns in exchange for no smoke.

[@tzampasprofessional6655]

Hey PQ, you CAN actually disable the autoaim entirely. You have to go to settings and then camera i think, and you deselect the ''track the locked target'' option. I turn it off whenever im playing any sort of battleship, and let me tell you when you get used to it, you can do damage more consistently. You DO however need yourself to account for horizontal and vertical tracking which can get tiring, but its worth it imho.

[@SofaKingA]

Can we get a Henry IV game next? This used to be a busted ship. People claim it's strong still but I haven't seen one in game for months lol😂. I'd like to see how it's played by Master PQ!

[@stevepritchett6563]

I love my Henri IV, slaps hard but I only play in Co-Op

[@sebastianromero113]

Had some good runs in clan battles last season, with lighthouse build.

[@zlpatriot11]

@@stevepritchett6563 What Henri IV used to be is what Conde is now.

[@thepaperbagmask]

I love HIV

[@slam_down]

Only 1 way to play it. Full lighthouse build. 19km concealment. Had so much fun with that back in the day. But now I have a yoshino 😂

[@mikestion4629]

0:00 Straight to the point as always. Thank you, PQ :]

[@bLock_c1pher]

The Italian Tech Tree-Line needs a new Line of BB's, I'm just saying. Thank you PQ!.

[@clmwrx]

Battle cruiser line maybe?

[@BigD321]

@@clmwrxive been asking for this for awhile

[@ManuR-l4m]

WG just needs to remove that build-in Sansonetti compensation nerf from them.

[@MadmanLink]

Since the update the Italian line has been so much better. I find sap to be inconsistent. Some times it deals out great damage, other times you get full pen no damage. I had an epic game with it earlier being top tier and had my way with the other team.

[@brianhum8765]

Good ol' WG ships power crept into complete irrelevancy; when the whole advantage at release is paying a premium currency for the advantage of biggest SAP in the game... and then they just take away that advantage by releasing ships with bigger and better SAP and don't give it anything to make up for that. Total waste of premium currency.

[@Dragonwolf920]

I literally have nothing else i can get except marco polo now, i own everything else

[@leonarddriller2608]

You'll be sorry

[@Dragonwolf920]

@@leonarddriller2608 i got 100k damage in tiger 59 in my first game, I'll be fine

[@leonarddriller2608]

@@Dragonwolf920 Glad you made out alright with Tiger. I couldn't bear to see anyone suffer with Marco Polo like I did, good luck & have fun.

[@forge16hanadamaintenancedr43]

This thing will be fine. It's got really good HE resistance, but it also has a huge shell catcher on the stern so you need to play at a safe distance where you can reverse out of engagement, then shell away at cruisers with SAP so you don't get overpens all day long. It can do 2-3 full SAP pens per salvo on average, which is a big dent into any cruiser.

[@Obst]

Loving the Littorio, I have been looking at other possible Italian ships to enjoy. So far, I got myself a Napoli (unplayed as of yet, just got it for the discount coupon before it ran out) and that's it. T9 is a tier I really care about. Having a Missouri, I think I will gladly skip the Italian ships at this tier. Thank you for the video!

[@stephenmarshall3771]

On legends the Marco Polo gets exhaust smoke, and can choose between taking SAP/AP shells and HE/AP shells. The base reload with HE/AP selected is 29 seconds and with SAP it’s 33 seconds, legends has a much superior version of Marco Polo.

[@arczer2519]

superstructure might be not that big, but all the secondaries still count as at least 10% damage areas

[@AllAhabNoMoby]

Maybe they should give it normal reload for AP and the long reload for the SAP.

[@prisonerofthehighway1059]

Marco Polo has a use but it’s extremely niche. When competitive is T9 and Musashi is banned a lot of BB players took Marco Polo because the 16in SAP destroys cruisers better than almost anything. Georgia made an appearance in that season as well.

[@ManuR-l4m]

You mean ranked? Rupprecht shreds everything. Best T9 BB for ranked without much of a competition. Sorry, but id never play this pile of garbage that is Marco Polo instead.

[@Anldiot69]

I played a lot of Polo, even with great results, but imo most battleships would outperform it in almost every situation. I think Iowa and Missouri can shred cruisers at T9 even better. They can still overmatch a lot of cruisers and beat the shit out of superstructures with their AP and superior accuracy if they don't have the overmatch. The SAP salvos are too inconsistent and the reload way too long. Imo they should buff her reload and give it standard 30s, as there is no reason at all for it to have that long reload.

[@prisonerofthehighway1059]

@@ManuR-l4m Ranked isn’t competitive. It’s just getting lucky enough to end up on the winning team x number of times in a row. Competitive is Clan Battles, masters and KOTS. P Rupprecht is instantly dead because you cant hide and you have no armor. 16in SAP crosses a couple penetration thresholds that normal AP doesn’t. Typically every team would run Musashi in it’s BB slot but when it’s banned Marco Polo shows up occasionally.

[@Brinckie]

It was a freebee from a crate for me.. nice to have but a port queen ever since. Look on the bright side i won't be getting it again haha

[@tegli4]

Marco Polo came out when teh captain rework just released and "Dead Eye" was a thing. Same with the whole Italian line of BBs and it suffers from the same inconsistent guns as the others. There were buffs to it i think (better sigma iirc), but still it feels like a BB without identity. The SAP, being its main gimmick is worthless if you cannot hit the target.

[@panacea_.]

love the videos always man! also find start lol

[@geeemm135]

once i made my way up to tier 10 ships, i actually stopped playing lower tier ships almost at all. so when it comes to rare currency ships like coal or steel, i tend to get the highest tier possible. but thats just me here rambling

[@dlm9709]

i don't recall this ship being good, but I thought it was way better, its also much higher out of the water than the roma/littorio while having low health for the tier, and you give up the smoke just for 406s that have terrible output...

[@jeffmonte787]

Not to discredit you but I had a pretty good game with Marco Polo. Just one kill away from a kraken if it wasn’t for a sneaky fletcher.

[@Paisa231]

There is two nation lines in weak to, due to design. The German and the Italian, so I got this recently 😅 guess it's the collector part of this game 😜

[@hisnameis28]

Giuseppe Verdi seems better overall. Better reload. Good secondaries. Italian smoke. Although the worse main gun dispersion and lack of SAP make it questionable in comparison.

[@philoselene5601]

I loved this ship in tier 9 ranked...

[@RicktheGoose]

Day 1 of asking PQ to review the USS Arizona. I just wanna know if it is worth getting in 2024?

[@Alaskancrabpuffs21]

It sucks dealing with subs but it is alot of fun still!

[@CaspCic]

It's OK, as long as you don't like it too easy. Took it out for a first match after months and imidiatly had 160k and a won a almost lost game with my fellow. Roma is my favorite and MP is a bit worse, but can do.

[@GreggFellows]

can be a fun ship but mostly frustrating due to the dispersion

[@jannegrey]

I'm not sure if you have video on Amagi (my main BB) or.... how is it spelt? Rooke? Tier VII British Battlecruiser (Renown was terrible though - IDK why, but only 2-3 games with above 20k damage, rest below 10k). I have Amagi at nearly 18 point captain and the British one is a meme build, since I got AL Queen Elizabeth, so now with 14 points, I'm all secondaries (including manual ones). It's a decent build against average players (I'm below average) and it shreds seriously in Operations. Though IDK if you do videos on non-premiums. Only Premiums I have are Błyskawica and Orkan. I saw your video on former - yes, in good players hands with 21 points captain it does murder people. Before you have concealment expert though - it is tough AF. And yes - original had 7 guns. Gryf had 6 of the same exact guns - it's weird that it is in Tier 1, but then again, it wasn't a cruiser. Our media called it that as a joke, because our navy really wanted cruiser. So much so that it had a fake funnel so it looked better (it run on Diesel and with 21 knot speed it didn't need that much power - especially since it was a minelayer - whole building process was a big joke)

[@davidzarnke6154]

Rookie is great ship pending you angle her right much like the hood repulse was dog shit didn’t enjoy that at all I do enjoy amagi

[@newcomerj3095]

I kind of like this ship, but only for citadal light cruisers with SAP. The range is definitely a big problem, and the HP too. In ranked it is a bit better, but why play this when you can play Iwami or Pommer.

[@eiresby2344]

Saying T9 against T11 is tough, nope its more challenging. I think T9 in T11 is better than T7 in T9 match. Back in the days when no T11, T9 got lot of T7-8 match. See what upgrade T7/8s have and T9s have , see consumable difference they have too. Now see what T11 vs T9 just by just upgrade and consumable, not talking about armor scheme etc which make T7 especially suffered so much. Also in T7 lot of Newbie coz WG code give skipped T5/6 tech tree to new account T9 too pampered or babysitted by WG before, especially the premium one so now they met T11 which now make them think they suffered a lot but reality not at all. Now they balance the matchmaking which T9 more often to met T11 which for me is better. In asia, 90% of T11 are dumb or bot so its ez to against them, just hope not in your team. But still, the cruisers is still the suffered one if we talk about T9 v T10/11. DD not that much, they can still compete with T10/11 DDs. anyway, marco polo is bad, not worth it at all. If like brawl or ranked in T9, there lot of T9 tech tree better than her

[@fede9221]

Pero el que dijo la "broma" no fue el compañero de la banda?

[@memph1ston]

Play the Chikuma II! It's a ship you haven't played before and I've been really liking mine :) (#11)

[@Rio_1111]

Î don't like mine. So, seconded, albeit for a different reason!

[@Balance43]

I personally like the supership missmatch, it feels like a boss battle at lower teirs, i also like the fact that theres a few ships that can mogg everything else and i think if you can grind to get one then youve earned the right to bully everyone

[@lucidnonsense942]

So one person gets to have fun, while everyone suffers? That's "fun and engaging gameplay" - that will definitely not make declining player numbers worse... How about we give them a special matchmaker, together with subs and CVs, then the white van crowd can play by themselves, while we enjoy a much better game.

[@Balance43]

@@lucidnonsense942 or you use it as a learning tool and a challenge to overcome as you get better at the game, then when you finally earn one yourself you feel that reward of being the big boss you once had to defeat, thats a fun game to me.

[@TK--ce6hp]

Superships should get matched only with tier 10 ships. Putting T9 against them is borderline criminal

[@lucidnonsense942]

​@@Balance43 it's no skill or effort to get one, they are just there to be a resource sink - people aren't playing them because they can't get them, they don't do so because most people a) aren't sociopaths and b) can see through weegee's con.

[@mernyr]

The reason the armor doesn’t work as well as it should is simple, it’s Italian not Russian despite Russia modeling their armor profiles after the Italian navy’s.

[@helmsgaming84]

Indianapolis and California have gotten so many buffs that Marco Polo is now my most regretted acquisition by far, and I have most of the prems that have ever been released. It's a sorry excuse for a tier 9, even for coal.

[@JustAnotherBoredGamer]

Read the Title, got my answer instantly, liked, left :D,

[@DeadlySteelBarrels]

Hi buddy, can you make a video for the level 9 American battleship Georgia? Sincerely...

[@nicholasmelby5361]

The Marco Polo is nearly useless against DD's thanks to WG always protecting it's favorite class of ships. They need to change the damage cap on DD's for SAP and HE shells from BB's, total BS the way it is.

[@slaphappy8246]

i spam SAP only and its not bad that imho.

[@aproudbaguette3605]

Man Marco Polo and Verdi seems so different than their console counterpart... Polo got SAP plus smoke Verdi got SAP secondaries plus a nice radar

[@nich7622]

Polo has no smoke..

[@aproudbaguette3605]

@@nich7622 on console it does

[@nephika6833]

for some reason i always have better matches in marco polo than iowa, for some reason my iowa can never hit anything while marco is landing cits at max range lmao

[@piervisser3121]

I didn't figure she'd be worth it, but at least she's no carrier, she does have that at least

[@dallaspease2685]

Eehhh they prioritize superships to make their credit sinks more desirable to play. They make higher boosters more attractive and premium time a near necessity. Not to mention the fools that prolly outright pour money into buying credits.

[@I8Mart1915]

Where is "Hey guys, welcome back to World of Warships, today we're gonna take a look at ..."?

[@ManuR-l4m]

One of the least played T9 BBs in my experience. Rarely see one. People know its trash and avoid it.

[@MrTrool323]

And we got the answer in the very first second of the video

[@xunanhong5736]

Best ship review of all time. Wasted no ones time. 0:00 "No".

[@magnus_bd6185]

That "No" felt personal 🤣🤣

[@joedanker3267]

You mean WG is prioritizing whales and the 💰💰💰over competitive integrity and the regular player base? No way . . .

[@booch9109]

It needs burnt pizza creeping smoke.

[@burntpancake7132]

Day 3 of Mogami 155 secondary build

[@senseifuri6953]

When are you gonna get to the RB ships :)

[@leonarddriller2608]

I just got rid of Marco Polo, terrible reload (36 sec.) . The ship just wouldn't perform. Traded her in & was able to get Florida. Don't know how she'll work out but, better so far than Marco Polo ( a waste of coal).

[@thomasbouvier3203]

Curious to see the giusepe verdict review as it the same thing with few gimmick changes, smoke, no sap, secondary sap (but shitty accuracy), better reload (5sec lol!!! ), same hp, same heal, same repair, same anything else. So shitty aaa, shitty range, shitty hp and concealment. Damn glad i have missouri and georgia…. And glad i traded my coal marco in tradin’s… tho, i hate napoli. Sure its fun with secondaries etc. But that all. Guns are terrible, its painfully to use them.

[@hisnameis28]

Looking up Giuseppe Verdi, the secondary hitting DPM is almost the same as Rupprecht, doesn't seem shitty to me, or am I misunderstanding something?

[@thomasbouvier3203]

@@hisnameis28 didn’t say but the accuracy is italian. Its not very precise nor efficient

[@gotfrydzbouillon4191]

It should have improved accurary and 1.9/ 2.0 Sigma.

[@maltemejlstrup4746]

It has 1.9 sigma but it still struggles to hit anything consistently. The overall dispersion may not be terrible but it's far from good or enough to offset the poor reload.

[@gotfrydzbouillon4191]

​@@maltemejlstrup4746 It have 1.9 Sigma. So 2.0 and a little better dispersion 232m on 19 km is enought.

[@ericbentley5091]

how do you change your icon on the minimap?

[@goheboge09studio69]

Use mods

[@davidzarnke6154]

Ship request iwami or agir

[@cody4999]

LMAO Great intro

[@SAyGOoDByEToOldLIfE]

How could you destroy my ship in the first second of the video like that. I still like it. Yes I wouldnt recommend it. But it has its place i think.

[@upsidedownwithkris6754]

i got this ship for 1500 dub

[@jaxmathews4835]

Day 18 of asking PQ to play the finest Russian BB admiral ushakov with meme lord kuznetsov

[@ronchabale]

Port Queen

[@dominikdolejsi1088]

I love italian BBs

[@ReDiR20]

it was always worth, solid BB

[@maltemejlstrup4746]

Yeah no, it's terrible. Guns are very inconsistent with bad reload and the armor is not as good as it looks on paper. It has nothing going for it.

[@berserker4940]

You got high damage on the Marco Polo that game so I really don't see your problem. Deranged schizophrenic ranting. 185k damage is a great game for most people

[@armanhadi777]

This ship is pain

[@misteebond]

Jean Bart pleeeeease

[@ishaanthadani7100]

Should just ended at No. not worth the coal. Only gimmick is basically useless sap isn’t a consolation for no smoke and made dispersion, a t9 poor matchmaking with no smoke. Don’t get this ship.

[@Leanginc]

Day 47 of asking PQ to play on Helena

[@maltemejlstrup4746]

I was there for some of the stream, I knew you were going to start the video with a no. That ship has just never been good.

[@Senjun1987]

Is Marco Polo worth getting in 2024? Video starts with "no". Okay PQ, thank you for the advise 😂

[@Alaskancrabpuffs21]

Day 23 of asking PQ to play the Anhalt

[@RayHoth]

Georgia 2024

[@Almedius76]

There are only a handful of ships so bad that you are actively trying to lose playing them...This is one of those ships.

[@reftouswarships6731]

No i got it and barley use it its mediocre it was like they built it around deadeye

[@laer6919]

oof, the whine must have been flowing during this stream:D

[@Cohowarren]

Just make sure teir 11

[@3381-c5v]

Imagine grounding head on an island for the first 4 mins and complaining about its health whilst being focused by 3, 4 ships... Yea tell me whuch ship would do better on that situation.. And doesnt even shoot SAP yeah nice review

[@Lfancoes]

I hate this ship, I feel like whether I have fun or not is based on the RNG waaay too much The only good thing about this ship that this's a premium ship, nothing more And I decide to Trade this ship with Karl Johan

[@stefanocrosazzo3262]

It was balanced around dead eye. Then they removed dead eye, but "forgot" to buff marco polo dispersion afterwards. They do this every time btw

[@Lfancoes]

@@stefanocrosazzo3262 Oh wow, it a good thing that I actually trade it. Since we will never know when and how they will touch this ship again

[@wernervandermerwe8422]

at this point I am honestly thinking you are a bad player to be complaining so much about aimbugs and battleship aimbugs and island aimbugs. Learn to adapt and aim better honestly.

[@pgale]

So instead of 22min just say straight up it's shit and not worth getting the say what's better getting.

[@zagareth4604]

5 vs 5 in randoms? You server must be poorly filled. Never seen that on the EU server

[@lucidnonsense942]

It's relatively common on NA , as in you get one or two per gaming session, game is bleeding players. During off peak times you can have a fun game with a 2 superships, a CV, a sub - and one tier IX that will have a truly "fun and engaging gaming experience..."

[@Brinckie]

Wows NA In a nutshell.. Wows Is gradually bleeding players since WG has no grip on players experience and keep putting in op ships for the FOMO and thus power creeping most ships along the way. EU also experiences noticably less players in the off hours(nights and during midday sometimes)

[@j_taylor]

I've never seen that on NA server, but maybe we play at different times of day.

[@eiresby2344]

or playing too early, i often get 2v2 or 3v3 if play at dawn

[@thematrixredpill]

No

[@peterhairston4629]

lol no

[@tibchy144]

it's garbage

[@skewz]

Can we get another Kremlin review? I honestly love playing the shop but her guns are so RNG even during close quarters. She desperately needs a slight buff to make her competitive in 2024.

[@miked815]

People who* play It's not people that play

[@Kolejaros]

I agree. This ship is so boring and weak in comparison to other bbs from tier IX. I regret, that I took it.