Is Melting Aluminum Cans Worth It? - Pure Aluminum Ingots From Cans

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ArtByAdrock

ArtByAdrock

5 жыл бұрын

Is melting aluminum cans worth it? Today I'll be melting a huge box and two bags of aluminum cans that I had laying around. Melting all of these cans took about 4 hours total. I ended up with almost 10 pounds of pure aluminum ingots that I'll be re-melting for future castings. If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up and hit that Subscribe button.
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@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
This aluminum was melted for future art projects I’m working on. Check out my latest ones to see why 👍🏻
@toasty5546
@toasty5546 5 жыл бұрын
im sorry to burst your bubble artbydrock ... the question is ,is it worth it ? so is it worth melting all those cans ? i dont know how much time you put into this but 4 kilo's aluminium go for 3€ ...... so was it really worth it ? i would say no not even close of course you do this for fun but is 3€ really worth this much time for you ? go buy some more solid aluminium pieces melt those down and then make your aluminium art ... also you probably wasted much more then 3€ in gass ...
@alexbearsfan03
@alexbearsfan03 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, if you don't mind, how much is all of this stuff, like the giant heat thing, the metal melting bowl etc?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Total it prob cost me $200. I made almost everything so that saved me money for sure. But you’ll need a foundry and burner, propane, a crucible, lifters, Tongs, molds etc so it can get pretty pricey. However it’s a lot of fun especially when I turn the metal into art 👍🏻
@alexbearsfan03
@alexbearsfan03 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArtByAdrock ok, thanks
@F34R_Flo
@F34R_Flo 5 жыл бұрын
I know you probably heard this but if you shred the cans they will melt faster and will have less slag
@drackar
@drackar 5 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie, I was expecting an actual cost-breakdown from this, compared to ingot prices. You've got your time, about..what, eight gallons of propane, materials, in the case of smelting, just about everything is a rapid wear part...I note you need a new crucible, for example. How much money do you have into this project? The "Beer" is a side consideration. Meanwhile, you can get ingots for $3-4 a pound of ebay plus shipping. So, serious question, "Is it worth it" wasn't answered here, in a real sense. You enjoyed it and you got a viable material you can use for other projects, that's AWESOME. "Just doing it because I enjoy it" is a viable reason to have and run a setup like this. "Is it worth it" is a value estimation. "Could I get the same material for less money if I sourced elsewhere" and the answer seems to be "almost defiantly". However, you could improve performance a bit...if you used a press or a shredder to reduce the aluminum can volume, you could fit more material and have more efficient fuel usage. Those hand-crushed cans cost you a lot of time and fuel.
@ronsoccercoach
@ronsoccercoach 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how KZbin monetization works but this video has over 100,000 views how much is that worth in money from KZbin sponsors. That could change the whole is it worth it arguement
@gabagool_ovahere
@gabagool_ovahere 5 жыл бұрын
@@ronsoccercoach Not really, it just changes the question from is it worth melting aluminium cans. To is it worth filming me melting aluminium cans for views. Or in this case, is it worth filming me melt aluminium cans for views in a clickbait title video.
@drackar
@drackar 5 жыл бұрын
@@vavielstarchaser241 good for him. When looking at this as an outside observer, I feel like "is it worth it" isnt answered. At all. In any real sense that matters.
@drackar
@drackar 5 жыл бұрын
It's presented as a informational video, and it's not, and that's disappointing as fucking hell. Why don't you get that?
@solarnaut
@solarnaut 5 жыл бұрын
I'll 2nd that c'c'... Dracker's post was the most satisfying thing about this video... and I 2xspeed skip-watched it.... yeah, it would have seemed more efficient to mechanically crush/shred the cans and turn them directly into "something awesome"... but, maybe the artist knows best?
@NameLast-wm5je
@NameLast-wm5je 5 ай бұрын
I wish more people on KZbin would be better at making the sound as high quality as this
@chrisw1053
@chrisw1053 5 жыл бұрын
Make aluminium Christmas decorations and sell for $1.50 each.
@GamingforNostalgiaForFun
@GamingforNostalgiaForFun 2 жыл бұрын
Thts a great idea 💡
@okamijubei
@okamijubei 6 ай бұрын
I don't see why not
@terryjohnson8317
@terryjohnson8317 4 жыл бұрын
As a fellow artist I appreciate the process from collecting the cans to the finished piece. Art is a process not a product.
@bigstackD
@bigstackD 5 жыл бұрын
Damn that would’ve taken all bloody night 🙄. If you ever do this again and you probably won’t leave a tiny bit of molten aluminium in the crucible and don’t empty it completely 👍🏻that’ll save a heap of time when adding the next lot of cans🤘🏻. Mmmm lots of ingots 🤤
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was going to but got carried away with pouring cause it’s too much fun 😆🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 next time I will for sure
@electromagic3111
@electromagic3111 5 жыл бұрын
Hi guys🤗
@ThePrufessa
@ThePrufessa 5 жыл бұрын
Or use two crucibles so one could be getting hot whilst he's pouring. It also reduces the heat stress since the other one can cool off a little bit before it goes back in the foundry.
@electromagic3111
@electromagic3111 5 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrufessa like😃😎
@ThePrufessa
@ThePrufessa 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of perpetual systems. They're so efficient. I use one with my wood burning. I have two burners because they start getting too hot to handle after a while. So I turn the second one on and let it heat up once the first one starts getting hot.
@amyelizabeth8432
@amyelizabeth8432 5 жыл бұрын
Awwww love the survival Warrior music in the background. Love your videos!
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊 glad you enjoy 👍🏻
@kodyyonk5965
@kodyyonk5965 3 жыл бұрын
I like this one, and it was cool to see you talking at the end. I feel better now- I've been saving cans now for a long time! Thank you🖐️
@danmckeown9695
@danmckeown9695 5 жыл бұрын
absolutely fascinating.A beautiful job!
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@kyredneckoutdoors
@kyredneckoutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
Hey loved the video. I have been wanting to make my own forge
@justinA.1837
@justinA.1837 5 жыл бұрын
At least this man is saving the earth good job bud
@mr.peanutbutter6969
@mr.peanutbutter6969 5 жыл бұрын
Justin Y wouldn't say something like this you... Imposter
@Dbjjr26
@Dbjjr26 4 жыл бұрын
Subbed and liked man. Awesome content.
@m.r.3576
@m.r.3576 5 жыл бұрын
That was pretty cool
@TheNad623
@TheNad623 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video. But I've been watching you for years and this is the first time I've ever seen what you actually look like
@NameLast-wm5je
@NameLast-wm5je 5 ай бұрын
Dude the sound on this is so nice!
@georgehoffman3439
@georgehoffman3439 4 жыл бұрын
I live in London and there’s countless of cans in the streets I am starting on becoming a forger as a hobby.
@IntrinDesign
@IntrinDesign 3 жыл бұрын
How is it coming along? Have you been able to turn it into a business?
@gageosteen614
@gageosteen614 3 жыл бұрын
Fyi a forger is somebodey who makes knifes
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 3 жыл бұрын
That’s not true. Forging is manipulating steel to make a different shape. It doesn’t have to be knives, it can be anything. 😉
@MashZ
@MashZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@IntrinDesign it can be a viable business if you can arrange cheap fuel and cheap labour to collect tons of scrap metal
@swankscabinet1625
@swankscabinet1625 3 жыл бұрын
@@gageosteen614 fiy a forger is someone who works metal (mainly steel) during its plastic state of heat. They don’t just make knives, look at black bear forge on KZbin, he made plenty of things that aren’t knives and swords.
@pheenix42
@pheenix42 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's worth it. Even though the metal is too soft to make machine parts, it's still fun to make art stuff with it.
@robot7759
@robot7759 5 жыл бұрын
Solid cookies 👍
@joshuabarrios2789
@joshuabarrios2789 5 жыл бұрын
*That epic music though xD!!!*
@trevorkober3950
@trevorkober3950 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this, I was wondering if melting down the cans raises or changes the grade of metal in any way. Also is there a profit to be made from doing this if so?
@shannonhunt7966
@shannonhunt7966 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool 👍
@NameLast-wm5je
@NameLast-wm5je 5 ай бұрын
Cinematic soundscape experience. Very nice.
@budmckinney6824
@budmckinney6824 3 жыл бұрын
what something is worth is what you trade it for. Its value is what others credit you with. You shared a personal passion for free and those who enjoyed it will give back positively. Those trying to add up your total cost are missing the point. we are all volunteers of our time and the rewards are self-evident in nature's equity program. I see your individual reward is not the worth of your stockpile of raw metal but its leveraged value to anyone needing it. If I needed a block of processed aluminum I would gather 150% of the processed weight I needed and offer a trade of my raw for your processed material. Equity without fiat currency.
@virtualpedestrian3271
@virtualpedestrian3271 5 жыл бұрын
I love the proses and the results it's pretty satisfying
@markskipper5124
@markskipper5124 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the vid. Ive been stocking up with cans but need to make my own furness do you have a vid how you made yours. I've old bottles and am thinking to just play and see but yours looks great 👍. Any help much appreciate.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I don’t have a video but it’s super easy to make. Just cut the top off of an old propane tank, cut a hole on the top of the lid and on the bottom of the tank and line it with kaowool. It’s very simple. 👍🏻
@vogman
@vogman 5 жыл бұрын
Nice video mate : ) I tend to find you get about 50 / 50 with cans… 50% metal and 50% dross. BUT if you have access to plenty of cans and IF you enjoy casting, then it’s always worth doing. That’s the fun of it!
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Now I can make more fun things 👍🏻 pure aluminum doesn’t just appear out of nowhere. 🤷🏻‍♂️ unfortunately
@CraigLYoung
@CraigLYoung 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but has anyone checked to see if the Aluminum is machinable? You should poor it into a form and see how well it does on a lathe.
@seanfoltz7645
@seanfoltz7645 5 жыл бұрын
Take a muffin or two that you already made and melt it in your crucible first then dunk the cans into the molten aluminum - melts them faster and significantly reduces dross. Or you can save the dross and then add a few heaping tablespoons of salt to it and melt the aluminum out of it. The companies can make 32 cans from one pound of aluminum - I found following my first suggestion gives me a return of about 40 cans making a pound of recycled aluminum and that's very good from what I've read.
@Tommo020788
@Tommo020788 5 жыл бұрын
Sean foltz If u start it off with some molten aluminium and submerge the cans straight into the liquid metal to melt, you will get much much less dross than that. The reason cans yield so much dross is mostly cos its really thin and it oxidizes due to exposure to the atmosphere.
@brettski74
@brettski74 5 жыл бұрын
@@CraigLYoung , I made leveling feet for my foundry by machining four of my ingots on a lathe. I'd love to say that I came up with that idea, but my design is based on TAOW's who also did the same (ie. machine feet out of cast ingots), although his feet were melted from an old ladder. Mine were from melted cans. It machines very easily. It's quite soft. I've considered buying some silicon and trying to covert the melted cans into something closer to 6061 aluminium, although I'm still new at this and have many other things to figure out before I try my hand at alloying.
@BradsWorkbench
@BradsWorkbench 5 жыл бұрын
I’d really love to make my own forge. I’ve got a ton of aluminum and copper wire I’d like to melt down and make a table top of of
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
You should. Its a very simple build 👍🏻
@rogeliosanchez4221
@rogeliosanchez4221 3 жыл бұрын
Here is a question, is it better to use propane as your heat source on a clay graphite crucible to melt aluminum cans or could I use say charcoal and a blow dryer. Looking for some advice. Thanks
@michaelbermingham4502
@michaelbermingham4502 4 жыл бұрын
The aluminium used for drink cans is different to that used for aluminium castings like engine parts, they're different alloys. One is optimised for extruding out thin shapes, the other for making tough thick pieces. I would love if you did a video comparing a simple rod of aluminium made from cans to a rod from aluminium castings, and see which one breaks easiest.
@okamijubei
@okamijubei 6 ай бұрын
You mean like carbon and purity content?
@bettymacallister3475
@bettymacallister3475 3 жыл бұрын
Hi I liked this video and subscribed. What are you going to make when you melt them again? Looks like a fun hobby to learn. Thank you
@terrylacrat6162
@terrylacrat6162 3 жыл бұрын
Plus i more. Loved watching this, was looking at buying a small forge tonight. I was a canmaker for 30 yrs and hate cans,,,,empty ones! I use em to make shingles for shed roofs,,,free roofing apart from a few tacks. Will cut up ally cycle frames produce a decent cast alloy to turn down on a lathe? I mean with paint on it? Art from cans, love it.
@colleenbuvala4698
@colleenbuvala4698 4 жыл бұрын
Do you want to build an aluminum snowman?"
@vjm3
@vjm3 5 жыл бұрын
Turn the slag in to figurines for D&D. Crappy tin and alum leftovers is perfect for table top.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve done a few figurines in the past so that’s a good idea. I’ll have to do more 👍🏻
@PghFlip
@PghFlip 5 жыл бұрын
So, what is the cost of purchased ingots vrs the amount of fuel and value of your time?
@ipconfigearth102
@ipconfigearth102 4 жыл бұрын
Please can you talk about the cost of melting and the set up you have?
@seanfoltz7645
@seanfoltz7645 5 жыл бұрын
When removing your muffins its easier to just get a five gallon Home Depot or Lowe's bucket, fill it 75% with water and knock the muffins out into it. They cool instantly, no need to fuss with picking them up to drop into something and you can just leave them there till your finished then simply dump the water out when you're done, thus having them all together in one container at the end too.
@Dojibu
@Dojibu 5 жыл бұрын
While I do like the meltings, my value of worth would be if the price places would pay for the almost 10 pounds of pure aluminum outweighs the 10 cent refunds on most of those cans. I was kind of hoping for something along that line of info. But I suppose it does save on materials for future projects.
@vccoinsnevada
@vccoinsnevada 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool👍🏻 Thanks for sharing 💥💥💥
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
No prob! Every weeks something different so stay tuned 👍🏻
@ambrosiaevans3023
@ambrosiaevans3023 5 жыл бұрын
love your choice of music and also love the Rick Grimes photo you have on the wall
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@ambrosiaevans3023
@ambrosiaevans3023 5 жыл бұрын
Oh you should do something walking dead theme! if you have already I'd love to see it. @@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
I did Neegan’s Bowie knife from the walking dead. Search my channel for that one. It was a while ago
@ambrosiaevans3023
@ambrosiaevans3023 5 жыл бұрын
ArtByAdrock yeah I found it and watching it now ha. Really loving your vids. Originally was watching BigstackD and that’s how I found you. Once again loving your music choices.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
AMBROSIA EVANS thank you 🙏 glad you enjoy. BigD’s a good friend of mine and I love watching his vids as well 👍🏻 I’ll let him know 🍺🍺
@vitusthemad3043
@vitusthemad3043 3 жыл бұрын
hi....I have a ton of aluminium cat food cans...they have a plastic coating on the inside. will these work for ingots or will the plastic make a mess of things?
@djohnson3678
@djohnson3678 5 жыл бұрын
excellent crucible melting pot. how did you make the ingredients to stick to the inside of it, and the cup ? most excellent melt down procedure.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
What do you mean make the ingredients?
@djohnson3678
@djohnson3678 5 жыл бұрын
the stuff that protects the outer propane can. and the cup that you use to melt in.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
The cup is a clay graphite crucible and the lining in the tank is kaowool 👍🏻
@natertater4024
@natertater4024 5 жыл бұрын
Ok worth it for future use on good stuff (maybe) cost wise I was curious about how many cans used x propane used x price of aluminum if resold type scenario lol. But hey cool vid subbed
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. Maybe I’ll do a break down of all of that in a future video 👍🏻
@gardenweld
@gardenweld 3 жыл бұрын
1kg of Scrap aluminium in the uk £0.50p ..you have about £8.00
@gregbenwell6173
@gregbenwell6173 5 жыл бұрын
Like a couple of other folks I was hoping to see a cost break down!!! BUT since you didn't provide one, let me just say that I have been kicking the idea around of building my own forge, and NOT for the reasons of just melting aluminum into ingots!! In fact I have been researching on how to make actual parts I want and need!! And even though I don't own a machine shop at all....the costs to buy the parts I want to make I can still machine most of my own things at home as long as the parts are "simple" to make for myself!! And in my life nothing is ever "simple" or even remotely "easy" so I have to build a lot of my own things just to own the things I want to start with!!! In this "modern day" not everybody has money growing on trees and frankly I am so fed up working to get no where, in the end that other then tired, flat broke, I have NO REWARD for the work I have done or I am actually doing!! In one case a guy just told me "I can guarantee you $50K a year and I told him "You are full of shit!" because I know it was just a hook to get me to go back to work for some dead end job that will just exploit my talents and pay me WAY BELOW what I am actually worth to DO the work I am physically doing in the first place!! I know this because it has happened to me time and time again in my life, where I found myself doing the work of 9 people and only getting paid like I am a "new employee at part time job like Burger King"!! I am too old, too tired and too fed up with being paid shit wages for the work I am ACTUALLY DOING to begin with!! And I highly doubt some company is going to start paying me a "new hire" $25 an hour for skills they will just exploit from me anyhow for $7 an hour!!
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
I hear ya on that. People never get paid what they are worth through companies. As far as my video is concerned I never mentioned anything about money and people are taking it the wrong way. I melt for my own personal art that I do and sell my pieces. If I was doing it to try and make money from ingots then it wouldn’t be worth my time at all.
@PavelK77
@PavelK77 4 жыл бұрын
Nice video!)
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@simpleman806
@simpleman806 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like you visited my grandpa and uncle. Lots of bud light and Budweiser cans.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha 👍🏻
@matthewho8630
@matthewho8630 5 жыл бұрын
Fun hobby though cool vid
@charlesrock7770
@charlesrock7770 5 жыл бұрын
Great video lots of talk about flux what do you use for flux.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! It’s nice to here someone not talk about the damn price haha. I usually use borax as my flux as it seems to work just fine! 👍🏻 thank you for the comment and kind words 🍺🍺
@dougalexander7204
@dougalexander7204 5 жыл бұрын
Wonder what the weight of the cans were before melting? I’d be interesting to know the percentage of loss.
@franksmith831
@franksmith831 2 жыл бұрын
Many side hustles and the like aren't worth it due to the time wasted. Figure the value of your time has to be near what you make at your job. But, if it's something that you enjoy and it's fun anyways and you can make a couple bucks then why not?
@jasonwright1687
@jasonwright1687 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. The crucible,lived
@mikelamothesr.8998
@mikelamothesr.8998 4 жыл бұрын
What effect would introduce controlled amounts of pure oxygen into the melting session?
@jjjjj5839
@jjjjj5839 5 жыл бұрын
Wife’s love the smell of burning epoxy 🙂
@johnmcl67
@johnmcl67 5 жыл бұрын
Where can I get that cookie or muffin tray you used in the video? I’m melting down some cans at my house and I like the shape that makes lol
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
I think if I remember I got it off amazon 👍🏻
@bawb244
@bawb244 5 жыл бұрын
All a sudden I have the urge for Christmas cookies...
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Haha yeah I does the same thing to me 🤣
@leeholztrager6463
@leeholztrager6463 3 жыл бұрын
do you rinse or dry the cans beforehand? What if they have any pop or beer drops left inside;. Will it spit when heated? Thanks.
@heresjohnny7867
@heresjohnny7867 3 жыл бұрын
what is in the center of that propane tank? How do I make a set up like that to melt aluminum and where do I get the stuff I need to make the set up? Thanks
@danl4222
@danl4222 4 жыл бұрын
Very neat project. As a lifelong project doer .. I love it. Still the project needs to be of create value. I guess I could make my own nickles or something!!
@markalan3108
@markalan3108 5 жыл бұрын
recycling beer cans. there's a slight poetic justice to that and a good thing.
@vijaymurugan3340
@vijaymurugan3340 4 жыл бұрын
Super Sir, what all we can can create with Aluminium blocks melted or buyers are their?
@stratify9704
@stratify9704 3 жыл бұрын
Like the use of cookie sheets 👍Does it off gas when melted? Also... trying to recycle foil, can i boil of the food stuck to it first,and then melt it down?
@loudieselj3165
@loudieselj3165 5 жыл бұрын
I use boid'arc and a hair dryer and fly through the cans. Wasting time is watching tv and looking at Facebook. Don't know his art but it's something to say; made this out of pop cans when the piece is in the gallery.$ you go dude. Boid'arc
@americasfavoritehoarder
@americasfavoritehoarder 5 жыл бұрын
They look delicious...
@UraniumMan
@UraniumMan 5 жыл бұрын
Around ten years ago I built a foundry furnace based on the babington burner. It ran on used fryer oil, which I got for free, rather than expensive propane. The furnace and crucible were one unit, and the flame was directed into it and made direct contact with the metal. I don't think it would be good for ferrous metals as it might add extra carbon. Anyway, it worked great for melting AL cans.
@richardrobertson1331
@richardrobertson1331 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the video. Thanks for sharing. Molten aluminum is fairly reactive, like molten lead, so there's always going to be more dross than you want (it quickly combines with oxygen). I read all 109 comments and your responses to them, as I was "watching" your video and they addressed all but one of my thoughts. Some of your viewers may try doing this in a closed garage or shed. Aluminum vapors usually take years to accumulate and cause problems, so maybe stress the importance of ventilation or an exhaust fan. Thanks for the video.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks yeah I agree. 👍🏻
@brettski74
@brettski74 5 жыл бұрын
Aluminium vapours are the last of your worries. I'd never do this in an enclosed space. In a propane or charcoal foundry, maybe this would be less obvious as the fire from the foundry itself may obscure what's going on with the melting cans, but I use an electric foundry, so any smoke and flame that I see is obviously coming from the crap on the cans. You have at least three sources of various fumes from the cans. One is the dried up dregs of whatever was in the can. This is unlikely to be too concerning. You also have the paint from the outside of the can. It's not easy to know exactly what this is or what fumes could be coming from that as it breaks down and burns. There's also the thin plastic coating inside the can that prevents the drink from directly contacting the aluminium metal inside the can. Again, not sure exactly what fumes this might produce, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were some aromatic organic compounds in there. Whatever the source, melting cans does produce some unpleasant fumes and smoke from time to time that I wouldn't want accumulating in any room I planned to be in. If I'm melting under cover, I always have the garage door and at least one other door or large window open, although I prefer to do it outside if weather allows.
@Android811
@Android811 5 жыл бұрын
@@brettski74 You forgot another hazard, probably the most deadly.... Burning all that propane produces a lot of carbon monoxide. If that is allowed to build up, you will just fall asleep and die. Keep ventilated.
@LuisRey0911
@LuisRey0911 5 жыл бұрын
Quick question the crucible I see that is cracked is it dangerous to use it like that or is it fine for someone who is very experienced in this like yourself?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
It is dangerous to use for sure. It could fall apart while picking it up spilling metal everywhere. I wasn’t too worried about it but you always wanna use safety gear just in case.
@iqbalyozanda1207
@iqbalyozanda1207 5 жыл бұрын
I thought it'll be price comparison for ingot per gram vs gass you use. But nice share, im waiting to see how itu turns out :)
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Here’s the link to the last one from all these ingots. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6DQqZpnZcyWmLc
@roblindsay6683
@roblindsay6683 4 жыл бұрын
Are those standard baking trays your using
@kimpufahl8369
@kimpufahl8369 5 жыл бұрын
What to do with wall that slag/dross? Remelt or recycle?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
I’ll be remelting it again to see how much more I can get. 👍🏻
@ralphmourik
@ralphmourik 5 жыл бұрын
Cans from your sponser? 😂 I melt cans in huge amounts, its my main source for aluminium, and they are FREE because I collect them everywere i can 👍😂👍
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! It’s a very free easy source 👍🏻 just takes a while and there’s lots of slag but whatever. It’s worth it to me to melt 😊🍺🍺🍺🍺
@meteoman7958
@meteoman7958 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArtByAdrock I was wondering why there is so much slag? I know the cans are painted, but that shouldn't amount to much. Are they using crappy aluminium in the cans?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m pretty sure they coat the cans in other things as well. The tops I always save separately cause they’re pure so I’ll be doing a video on that sometime soon I hope.
@seanfoltz7645
@seanfoltz7645 5 жыл бұрын
Hit an auto mechanic or somewhere that specializes in tires and try to score some aluminum rims - typical car aluminum rim weighs around 19 pounds and has a scrap value of $7 - you can usually score them for $5 each or less, sometimes free if you tell them why you want them. You can cut them into manageable pieces with a reciprocating saw and they generate very little dross. But they're not free you say? It took him four hours to make ten pounds of free aluminum - I can cut up and melt down a 19 pound rim in about half that time so factoring in what I make at my day job my time is worth far more than the $5 or less I paid for the rim. Make sure to either have photos of what you make on your phone or if its small stuff, bring a few pieces with you. I made paper weights using the Han Solo in carbonite my old Slave One toy and carry a couple of them when scrounging rims - I'll show it to the guy at the garage and they'll often times trade me rims for them - four ounces of aluminum for 19 pounds.
@ralphmourik
@ralphmourik 5 жыл бұрын
@@seanfoltz7645 Brilliant 👍 I will look into this, so should you @ArtByAdrock 👍
@NaturallyCreativeme
@NaturallyCreativeme 5 жыл бұрын
What do you do with all the slag? Is there any thing good you can get out of it or is that just waste?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
I set it all aside and I’ll remelt it later. I should be able to get a lot more from it 👍🏻
@NaturallyCreativeme
@NaturallyCreativeme 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArtByAdrock wow.
@terrahawk2003
@terrahawk2003 5 жыл бұрын
So how long between pouring into moulds and having them solid enough to knock out of the moulds?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
It was about 20 min between pouring and took about a minute to solidify enough to take them out of the mold
@russellpalmer5610
@russellpalmer5610 5 жыл бұрын
Is it actually best to water cool them or let them cool gradually?
@captainjerk
@captainjerk 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like it was totally worth it! Got lotsa ingots for future pours! :D Gonna be a great spring buddy! Thanx for a great pour-session Adam!
@garyzimmerman62
@garyzimmerman62 5 жыл бұрын
where does the slat come from? I know it is impurities in the aluminum but does it settle at the bottom of the crucible? Also, if you crush the cans flatter ( day with a sledgehammer) couldn't you fit more at a time in the crucible? Does that slow down the smelting process if you do?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
The slag generally will float on top.crushing them more only fits more in initially. Having so many to melt really wouldn’t help me that much more. If I had a shredder that might make it a little better to fit in more but they melt so quickly as it put them in that it doesn’t really bother me. Hope that helps
@garyzimmerman62
@garyzimmerman62 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArtByAdrock it does... Does the slat just pour off easily or does the aluminum tend to follow it? I would love for you to melt it and use it to pour into a fire ant mound. I've seen that done before, and the sculpture that comes out is beautiful... Living in Texas, and having been bitten by fire ants a lot, I would feel absolutely no pity for them. LMAO
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Haha I bet. Damn those ants 🐜. I simply scrape off the slag with a spoon. I’ve remelted the slag too and I’ll get a little extra but it’s really not that worth it
@RovingJack
@RovingJack 5 жыл бұрын
the way I see it, if you cast it into blocks and cylinders that you can lathe or mill, 10 pounds of material bought through ebay or amazon would likely cost you 40-50 dollars, a forced air system would increase fuel efficiency and thus you are likely to reduce costs further to a point that one tank of propane or less will be all you need for this melt load. Depending on prices in your area your propane refill is likely costing you around 20 dollars. so it's comparable to market value for a block of aluminum, if you have to melt it twice, but doing it all at once you can actually come out ahead in costs. If you start sourcing scrap aluminum from broken ladder, engine and wheels, storm doors etc, you will likely get more material to work with and it won't be quite so much 'one can at a time' long nights of melting. so it depends on the application and efficiency of processing, but you are likely to be on either side of breaking even by a little bit.
@danielwolfe8
@danielwolfe8 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like you could cut way back on your fuel consumption. Once you get up to melting temperature you just have to maintain. I built mine with two burners. Once I'm up to temp I shut one off and cut the psi by about 25 percent. 30 pound propane tank has lasted me about three hours so far and still not empty
@adamorick2872
@adamorick2872 5 жыл бұрын
My question is how much does it cost to melt the cans, and what is the value of the melted aluminum afterwards compared to premelt.
@montanawhite5699
@montanawhite5699 3 жыл бұрын
What does everyone do with these aluminum ingots? I was thinking about doing this but don’t know what I’d use the ingots for. I’d like to make fishing weights or slingshot ammo but aluminum is too light.
@KennyWhyDoIHaveNumersNow
@KennyWhyDoIHaveNumersNow 5 жыл бұрын
A perfect example of why recycling is not the saviour of the planet
@clintdoolittle1576
@clintdoolittle1576 4 жыл бұрын
So I have to ask WHAT do u do with all the slag that's comes off all aluminum brass copper
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 4 жыл бұрын
Usually I’ll remelt it and try and extract more and then I’ll throw it all out after 👍🏻
@clintdoolittle1576
@clintdoolittle1576 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArtByAdrock that's awesome well I am going to subscribe to ur channel NOW its awesome watching what u do and the ingot u made for Grant Thomson was vary awesome of you thank you
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 4 жыл бұрын
Clint Doolittle thank you. Glad you enjoy. There’s many more cool projects I’m working on so stay tuned 👍🏻
@clintdoolittle1576
@clintdoolittle1576 4 жыл бұрын
@@ArtByAdrock can't wait to see other awesome videos and I will be suggesting ur channel to a few good friends who likes this kind of stuff and thank u for ur time to reply to me
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 4 жыл бұрын
Clint Doolittle no problem at all! thanks I appreciate that 👍🏻
@Junokaii
@Junokaii 5 жыл бұрын
Seems more worth it if you're melting a tonne at a time. I say we keep mining as much metal material as possible while improving recycling technology. Best for long term.
@darianneumayer188
@darianneumayer188 5 жыл бұрын
You should do this over sand over cement pops from moisture and can throw the Metal
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Here in Vegas we never have any moisture so I don’t worry about that. Except for the occasional oops I did in a video a few weeks ago when it rained and I exploded brass everywhere 🤷🏻‍♂️
@Scratchingforcash
@Scratchingforcash 4 жыл бұрын
This is a very cool video my friend and thank you for sharing it with us. I do have a question for you because I couldn’t see it. Please tell me you are wearing a breathing apparatus to keep your lungs safe! I’m curious what kind you do wear and I didn’t see much ventilation there? Are you doing this the safe way? Please don’t take offense to these questions... Thanks again!! Subbed & Liked As well!! Excellent video!!
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you should wear a respirator. I do and I do this outside so there’s plenty of ventilation 👍🏻
@prof.esrever7823
@prof.esrever7823 5 жыл бұрын
4:12 bigstackD is that you??!?😂
@AdaptiveRider
@AdaptiveRider 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if preheating the cans in the oven at 500 def would help speed it up?
@sethalbert1239
@sethalbert1239 5 жыл бұрын
My comment, before reading your comment: Yeah its worth it if you make something bad ass, but not cookies! My comment after: Bad ass!!
@deborahyoung4924
@deborahyoung4924 2 жыл бұрын
What is the pressure on the LP input?
@jc_hz4196
@jc_hz4196 3 жыл бұрын
Looking for the type of charcoal to use for my melter but ended up in a gas melter video, I still have a lot to learn about myself.
@shuralmehki
@shuralmehki 4 жыл бұрын
Did you remelt the slag later?
@kojilojojiji2825
@kojilojojiji2825 4 жыл бұрын
This guy doesn’t have a drinking problem.. he drinks so he can support his casting addiction.
@xox1993
@xox1993 3 жыл бұрын
How many metal biscuits did you get?
@edwardervin879
@edwardervin879 4 жыл бұрын
You rock! Can you make the mack truck bulldog on the hood of the mack truck?
@stclairstclair
@stclairstclair Жыл бұрын
I built a propane furnace from a 134a bottle but I also built a wood burning furnace from a propane bottle, it works even if I'm out of propane.
@waterearthmud4116
@waterearthmud4116 4 жыл бұрын
how many cans of propane do u use? how long does it take to melt all them cans? do u get more money for bricks then cans?
@dawizad3598
@dawizad3598 5 жыл бұрын
I think I have that many monster cans under my bed
@leecott1979
@leecott1979 5 жыл бұрын
What size crucible you using?
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
This one is 8kg. 👍🏻
@mattkrueger212
@mattkrueger212 5 жыл бұрын
Are you gonna Remelt the dross if use borax when doing cans it helps get all the aluminum out of it. Good video.
@ArtByAdrock
@ArtByAdrock 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I will. I have a huge amount of slag saved and will be melting that all in a future video. And yes borax helps, I usually always use it 👍🏻
@brettski74
@brettski74 5 жыл бұрын
From my research, borax is great flux for brass, iron and steel but entirely wrong for aluminium. I think the borate will react with the aluminium, but I've not found any good information on what problems borax might cause other than a number of places online that have said don't use borax with aluminium. Everything I've found suggests chloride salts as the right flux for melting and casting aluminium. Potassium chloride is readily available as various salt substitutes in the supermarket. Sodium, calcium and magnesium chlorides are readily available in bulk for relatively cheap prices as ice melters. I've been using a mixture of calcium and potassium chloride and it's worked wonders for separating the metal from the dross. I generally melt the stuff together into tablets and then put those into the melt later on, but other people on youtube I've seen simply sprinkle a few spoonfuls of morton's lite salt into their crucible and get somewhat similar results with regard to separating the dross. You do need to stir a bit, but after adding the flux, it floats much ore readily to the top and separates from the metal.
@Android811
@Android811 5 жыл бұрын
@@ArtByAdrock Don't use borax. It reacts with the graphite in your crucible, shortening its life.
@JonelKingas
@JonelKingas 5 жыл бұрын
In my country i guesseverywherr else we get for a bottle 10 cents for recicle... so yeah i dont think its worth for me at least
@datpudding5338
@datpudding5338 3 жыл бұрын
Oh we have a similar system over here :) We get 25 cents per can back but selling the aluminium at the scrapyard would generate only about 70 cents per kilogram. Since I'm working on a PSE with real samples of as many elements as I can make with my own hands it's still worth it for getting stuff to purify further
@peterking2651
@peterking2651 3 жыл бұрын
So was it worth it? Does the cost involved versus any final profit make sense.
@millerfamilyfarmtrust6515
@millerfamilyfarmtrust6515 3 жыл бұрын
So is it worth 2 propane tanks in expense to get 10lbs of aluminum?
@Gtavonline420
@Gtavonline420 3 жыл бұрын
Put them in a can shredder so they are cut up into small pieces therefore letting it melt faster and making it so you are able to do more cans in one go
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