Is METROID PRIME REMASTERED Definitive or Flawed?

[@TarvouldsQuest]

For those asking about the Charge beam timings, I quickly did some testing myself that you can find here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4e5XpegaJqAbLc Conclusion: Power Beam is faster in Wii Wave Beam is MUCH Faster in Wii Ice Beam is roughly the same Plasma Beam is MUCH Faster in Wii Super Missiles are roughly the same Still FEELS annoying though.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

It's harder to see but that outline is in the original as well. It's meant to show that the Phazon Suit has stronger shields.

[@Oceb]

The outline on the phazon suit is there and visible even back in the GameCube version. Though it is definitely way more noticeable in Remastered.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

It's true, and it was much more of a shimmer/light refraction effect. Where as here it looks like a crappy Photoshop job. I kinda wish it was just completely gone altogether in all versions, but oh well.

[@blobom1]

Cool and funny video, nice editing too. Great job on this one!

[@MisterGuy_]

8:56 I thought the charge beam change was weird, but if you put the versions side by side, the remastered version actually produces charge shots in the same rate as the original just with a couple more added shots. If anything, the remaster gives you a net positive rate of fire

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Your comment intrigued me, so I actually tested this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4e5XpegaJqAbLc Conclusion: Power Beam is faster in Wii Wave Beam is MUCH Faster in Wii Ice Beam is roughly the same Plasma Beam is MUCH Faster in Wii Super Missiles are roughly the same So the Ridley whining was clearly a me-skill issue lol. I still maintain that it doesn't FEEL great regardless.

[@MisterGuy_]

​@@TarvouldsQuest Actually super cool of you to go in depth with the comparison! Kudos for putting in the work, and overall I agree it doesn't feel natural.

[@esmooth919]

I feel like it was a means to keep people from sore fingers since rapid fire wasn't a thing in the past

[@upgradED32]

Why Metroid Prime REMASTERED is a winner =====> its strengths are in its exploration, combat, music, and game design. They kept most of it and improved upon it especially the exploration of it with new textures and overall upgraded look.

[@TagartTalking]

From what I've tested, the time it takes to charge the beams is actually about 3 frames shorter in the Remaster, the extra shots that come out just make it seem longer. Do a side by side comparison from the moment the button is pressed.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

This got me wondering, so I DID IT. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4e5XpegaJqAbLc Conclusion: Power Beam is faster in Wii Wave Beam is MUCH Faster in Wii Ice Beam is roughly the same Plasma Beam is MUCH Faster in Wii Super Missiles are roughly the same

[@thegodpharaohsraven8538]

The grain on the phazon suit is in the original

[@GeoTheHero]

Heck yeah, no loading doors and customizable controls will make this game the GOAT once again! What kind of world do we live in where we get Metroid Dread AND such a beautiful remake in close-ish proximity!

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Metroid fans eating good for the first time since Zero Mission

[@GeoTheHero]

@@TarvouldsQuest For me, Zero Mission was the best 2D Metroid, with Dread being close if not equal. So many people love Super Metroid the most, and I understand their reasons, but I would like a proper remake of that to feel as tight as Zero Mission or Dread.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

@@GeoTheHero If Dread had a better soundtrack it would easily be a 10/10 for me. ZM and SM are still top 2, but Dread is a very close 3rd.

[@Flea_ip]

I'm glad you highlighted, and called a pain in the dick, how the game forces you to shoot a couple times before finally charging your shot, and I have to admit, that even though I haven't YET played this game (I still fully intend to buy it once I can find it physically), this is a mechanic that I am very much not looking forward to. I can't even imagine why it was done this way. When I hold down the button, I want to be charging my shot right away, and this just seems to me like it feels really really bad and I want to understand why they did it this way... =(

[@TarvouldsQuest]

It is annoying for sure, but don't let it deter you. You DO get used to it, and the overall package has so much going for it that the couple little blemishes don't matter in the grand scheme of things. Though I have noticed a lot of chatter about this issue online, so I'm not alone in thinking this. That said, I'd LOVE a patch for this in the future. But again, doesn't hurt the game to any unplayable state or anything.

[@aureateseigneur5317]

It charges in the same amount of time as it did on GameCube and you're getting two free damage shots. It's literally a buff.

[@StabilizeYT]

Great video with a good summary of all the changes, no matter how small. This is my first Prime game so I'm taking it slow but enjoying it so far! Keep up the good stuff!

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Thanks friend, the kind words mean a lot. Hope you love it as much as I did!

[@Bee_Mavrick]

I wish the charge shots functioned like it used to. Or like the mirror effect.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Agreed, though the positives far outweigh the negatives overall.

[@r100curtaincall]

What's interesting is that even though the thermal visor is kinda low res looking and ghosty and shallow contrast now, that's actually how it would likely work if it were real. FLIR cameras often look that way due to the low res and low refresh rates by comparison to most visible light sensors, they also often have terrible contrast/imaging properties so usually they are paired with a normal camera, overlaying it on top of the image to create a combined one to make it alot more readable. its pretty cool stuff even though it's just a game, while it is more of a pain, and was kinda that way due to limitations compared to the original, I feel like its a bit more true to life, so that's actually kinda neat.

[@esmooth919]

11:01 Why fix what wasn't broken? One thing you fail to mention is when a lot of soundtracks get remixed for remasters (Sonic Colors, anyone?), The remixes often suck compared to the original tracks. The original Prime soundtrack is god tier. No changes needed here.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

True, but I DID mention that most games that have remastered soundtracks usually add the option to switch it back if you prefer the old. More options is never a bad thing. Remastered tracks could be great, or be less good than the OG. But a toggle to change them can be all you need to satisfy everyone :)

[@sometf2player752]

11:01 well fusion is on switch online now and sadly that’s not a thing It would be cool if they had the dread suits though like if you have Metroid dread save data you can get them In prime remastered

[@Mindstormer]

so actually im pretty sure this is running on retros new engine the just copy and pasted the worlds and code. pretty sure this was done for the new lighting system they made for the remaster and I would assume prime 4

[@TarvouldsQuest]

oh damn really? I had no idea. Where'd you find that info?

[@Mindstormer]

@@TarvouldsQuest ill have to find it again, im not sure where i heard it first, but yeah its pretty neat

[@Mindstormer]

@@TarvouldsQuest ok so it runs on retros newest “RUDE engine” im still not sure how it became public but it is lol. Sorry i couldnt be much help there.

[@DanielMazahreh]

The targeting system got worse. You cannot change targets with a nearby enemy like it used to be on the Gamecube.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Oh damn I never noticed this. The auto-aim just had me sprayin' and prayin'

[@2NDFLB-CLERK]

▪️ I thought that was the case... 🟥

[@justinmcnab5585]

Great video man. This is a wonderful game. I do have a BIG issue with it… its the backtracking which leads to poor pacing in many sections. It drove me insane

[@TarvouldsQuest]

I feel you. I go on alllllllll about it in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGOtkmCYdrBkZqc

[@justinmcnab5585]

@@TarvouldsQuest I’ll take a look!

[@TheKritken]

No metroid dread on that tier list?

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Stay subbed and stay tuned, coming soon :)

[@GeoTheHero]

Hold up, jumping Morph Ball is the X button?! MY GOSH just as I'm praising them over controls, they once again do some weirdness! It's like my pet peeve where they make NES or Gameboy game re-releases keep the A and B button inputs, when it feels like it should be swapped to Y and B to feel like Super Nintendo games.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

DUDE I CANT REASONATE WITH THIS MORE. Playing Game Boy Kirby felt so odd to me.

[@SSGLGamesVlogs]

It took me about 2 and a half years to do it once.

[@BearofLightness]

A new Tarvould video is always a treat =) All the lighting stuff is weird. I would think, if anything, it would be way easier to do ambient or source lighting these days, as a lot of that is baked into modern game engines like Unity. AND WHY IS THE JUMP BUTTON NOT THE JUMP BUTTON But! Glad to hear Metroid Prime is still great as ever. I gave away my copy of the GameCube game years ago, so maybe I'll pick this up so I have it again.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

I think you absolutely should, well worth the discounted price!

[@fueledbycoffee583]

oh... i havent played the remaster yet and what i thought about the light in the beams was removed so you used more the thermal visor, but that visor view sucks! I guess is because the dynamic lights with the new rendering techniques would bring the switch to its knees? (yes i know older hardware could doit but i guess since the wholre rendering pipeline was updated, the light rendering is just more taxing? is a random theory)

[@vikingnoise]

The weapon switching is what's killing this game for me, especially getting down into the Phazon Mines with the beam troopers and fission Metroids. There's no good reason to use a shift button for visors/beams at the same time there are duplicate button mappings for jump and fire.

[@theblowupdollsmusic]

Some really solid points made here. Thanks for taking the time to put this review together. Heres hoping for more Metroid from Nintendo in the future.

[@josiahtheobald689]

Still waitin for the next video

[@HusserNS]

Ay yo lets go

[@upgradED32]

All this talk and no mention of how the f'd up the SCAN VISOR putting it on the RIGHT side instead of LEFT like it was for DUAL CONTROLS. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Why change it? It was natural to have it on the left. People gonna be confused. Grrrr. ABSOLUTELY hate it. Love this game though so I'm just dealing with it unfortunately.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Huh, yeah wow you're right. It is on the opposite side. I guess I didn't notice cause I played this on the Wii way more than Gamecube but good eye!

[@SkellyPacks]

Starting to think this Tarv guy might really like Metroid 🤔

[@TarvouldsQuest]

This guuuuuuuuuuuy

[@novustalks7525]

The controls aren't great but they work

[@Khameleon269]

Where’s Dread and 3DS’s Samus Returns in your tier list?! I know you have Dread saw it behind you in the video! No Other M is fine who cares about that one 😂.

[@TarvouldsQuest]

Oh, they coming. Stay subbed and stay tuned.

[@esmooth919]

10:49 Not a very big loss for me. I'mma be completely honest with you: the Fusion suit was ass ugly in this game, and in general. Much prefer the power suit. Even the newly healed power suit in Metroid Dread looks better than the Fusion Suit.

[@generalsci3831]

Hard hard hard disagree on the original soundtrack being a 'let down' in this game. It already fitted it masterfully. For comparison, I loved the ever-living bonkers nuts out of Halo 2: Anniversary, and while the new recorded soundtrack was nice I always defaulted it back to Martin O'Donnel's recordings. It just fit the situation and context of the game best. That's true for Prime as well.

[@Peter-is8vt]

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