Is Micheal Jordan The Goat..

[@bubbles1525_]

And he keeps asking why you jumping, it's called defense, something the NBA is lacking today

[@m00d_fm]

I had the same thought. It's fucking hilarious. "It was weaker back, that's not defence." "Why are they jumping?"

[@jefferycollyge3877]

The defense was a lot stronger than today's

[@timmypyron2830]

Yeah this dude is a joke. So clueless.

[@washburn11000]

Lol right?? Good lord, kids today, really don't know what defense or competitiveness is...

[@travisherdlicka7755]

Damn, this's hard to listen to! Shut your fuckin mouth if you don't know youngster!

[@Lanetta402]

You say Jordan fans make it hard for you to like him . I feel the exact same way about Lebron and his fan boys. Most of y’all know nothing about MJ but have the most to say

[@lonnellejones9131]

Exactly!!!

[@katrinachavez3533]

The truth! And they're not only ignorantly delusional but they're corny.

[@notablindliberal896]

Facts

[@juanrios2705]

Speaking facts

[@brandongarrison8702]

I was born in 81 I watched Jordan as I grew up no on can compare Kobe is the closest to Jordan

[@vincespell]

Jordan fans defend Jordan because you guys get on here and try to discredit his era, calling the players Plumbers when they hold all the records! This current era is blessed because the NBA doesn't allow contact with the Hand Checking and Forearms in the back! You weren't allowed a "Clear Path to The Basket" back then and it's the immaturity of the players of this era! The players in your Era have "Load Management" and they still having losing seasons! Lebron hanging around in the league so he can be called "Great" mean while he falling on the floor acting like a child flopping all over the place just to get a call, Goats don't do that. Kareem didn't do that, Bird didn't do that , Magic didn't do that, Elgin Baylor, Pete Maravich, Jerry West, John Havilcek, Kobe, Hakeem, Shaq, Duncan, and Robinson didn't do that! Lebron has also played with 30 All-Stars in his career attempting to "Stack" his team to win! Jordan couldn't get past the Pistons so he trained harder and then he beat them. Lebron couldn't beat Golden State so he ran to an All-Star team of D Wade and Bosh! Jordan fans defend because you excuse Lebron's behavior and attack Jordan. Like this latest idiocy of listening to Isiah saying Jordan didn't have a "Left Hand" You can see Jordan layup or Jam with his left in every video on the internet, yet Lebron fans still put it out there that he can't! We know what we say, you know what you are seeing in this video and nobody in your league does this every night, Jordan did!

[@LoveAllWomen]

Yes sir

[@chriswilliams8849]

Lol, who has LeBeg played against that is in the NBA Hall of Fame?

[@bigjay52]

Ahh, 20+ Seasons....4 Titles....No DPOY, minimal scoring leader....Where is the dominance. All I see is longevity and playing alongside soon to be HOF' ers....Pippen was not considered a HOF'er during that time like Kyrie, Wade and AD are and still only 4 titles...The more seasons LeGm plays the worse it looks 😅

[@IamTigger-qe4up]

I am not a fan of the overdramatic way they try to get fouls now but I just wanted to say that even though I'm not a LeBron fan, he is just following what they all do with that flopping around.

[@tavaresthomas6016]

Valid points but we defend Jordan because we have eyes

[@zombiecarnes]

Why do people keep jumping with him?...it's called making a defensive effort...😂

[@Militarize]

People think that I'm a Michael Jordan fan.I'm not. He is not my favorite player.However, he is the GOAT. .There is no debate in that

[@LuvnAries23]

Basketball fans will acknowledge that regardless of who their favorite player is. It's the fans of players that get their panties in a bunch.

[@tnlkwon6377]

I don’t agree but i appreciate your opinion 🙏🏾

[@fitzroy6970]

@@tnlkwon6377of course u wouldn’t agree ure an idiot smh

[@ciarrajohnson3849]

Nope! Everyone’s favorite has been fkd up by him♥️♥️♥️♥️

[@MuzikNBball]

Same. Kobe is my favorite player. I mean I am a Jordan fan to a degree but I missed his prime

[@kenyonr]

Take away gather steps, zero steps, travels, carries and double dribbing and how skilled is this era then?

[@chriswilliams8849]

Or this ero-step bullshit that was a travel then

[@corneliusjackson2673]

I'm with both of yall. Without all those so called evolutionary moves they say is better people would have to rely on skill

[@SJ-nd8rz]

I’m 45 now. So I grew up with Jordan. I loved the NBA I thought. When Jordan retired it became boring. I tried to watch Kobe, iverson, lebron, joker and it’s not interesting at all. I was a fan of Jordan. I couldn’t miss a game as a kid. No one could fly like him, move like him or control a game like him. He was the greatest show on earth.

[@tatteredprince2097]

How is 90s bad defense. Jordan had to go through bad boy pistons hurting him but still goes inside everytime. While LeBron is always flopping and whining for fouls. He played against Hakeem, payton, mark eaton, rodman, David robinson, mutombo, alonzo mourning, the davis brothers, etc. Lebron would get demolished in the 90s if he kept his bitchness attitude. Also Lebron has all time record 5000 + turnovers at 1400 games played while stockton has only 4100 turnovers at more than 1500 games played. How is Lebrons IQ in this stat? The way Lebron gained those championships jumping superteams, firing coaches, taking peds, relying on Ray allen, Dwade, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis and not crediting them? should automatically remove him from the top 5 all time. Also he choked against sick Dirk and JJ barea defending him. That's like if Jordan choked against a 5'5 Brian Scalabrine. Lmao

[@katrinachavez3533]

I stopped watching after just a few minutes. Light-skin Jameis Winston IQ said 90s defense was bad? It's obvious when it comes to the history of the NBA he's as clueless as Leon Lett in Thanksgiving Day snow. MJ was defended by some of the greatest perimeter defenders all-time (Moncrief, Alvin Robertson, Rodman, Michael Cooper, Payton, Dennis Johnson, Dumars, Pippen-in practice). And took it to the bucket against some of the greatest defensive bigs all-time (Hakeem, David Robinson, Mourning, Mutombo, Ewing, Eaton, Parish, Rollins). This is exactly why I say majority of Bron fans aren't very sharp. What in idiotic thing to say when today's defensive players are inferior to all them cats I listed.

[@Poetryinnonmotion]

I see u made too many valid points. It got ignored..

[@inf4mousvloglife1572]

This Fact right here made this Leclown Fanboi LeLoser 😅😅

[@Tyrannosaurus_STFU_III]

I turned it off when you said"Jordan fans make it hard to like him".... Are you serious? Lebron earns his hate and Lebron fans make it 100x worse. Here's some wisdom since you think "old heads" don't know anything. You watched the video and complimented Jordan on his killer instinct, D, drive....all the things Lebron doesn't have and still put him down to elevate Lebron? Makes you look ignorant young man. You can't praise one player for doing more and elevate another for doing less. Critical thinking.

[@tnlkwon6377]

u really just said a whole lotta nun. All of those takes about lebron have been disproven time and time again. Sit this one out unc

[@Tyrannosaurus_STFU_III]

@@tnlkwon6377 kids... can't ever be wrong. You'll grow up and learn. Keep on

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@Tyrannosaurus_STFU_III 👍🏾

[@inf4mousvloglife1572]

​@@tnlkwon6377it's the empty can that makes the most noise 🤦🤡

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@inf4mousvloglife1572 bro u are spamming comments u ain’t got nun to do? 😂

[@TheHarmAge]

"I've seen many players do that" says it all. Many players do particular things MJ did, but none has that complete package he had. Calling MJ fans fans unbearable and making you not like the guy is exactly what lebron fans are.. after all, lebron fans came up with "we (are) done with (the) 90s" and "Jordan had no left", because the only way to put lebron above MJ is to discredit that era. The era where players actually tried to block, to stop you from dunking and not just looking at you travelling by. There's hardly any defence these days. Competition was more balanced then, while today everything comes down to shooting 3s. With today's spacing and foul calls MJ would probably average at least 40, because he'd either drive to the hoop and dunk, or he'd be fouled while utilizing his deadly midrange shooting. In the end "Why you jumping" and "There's no defence" is this era's playstyle..

[@Luangori]

If Jordan was in the legue today with how soft it is he would dominate...and catch twice the amount of bodies...

[@chenemc8953]

This!

[@GregNewkirk-o8h]

@@Luangori He would avg what ever he wants

[@keithzatkalik5805]

LeBron flops like a fish out of water

[@brianice9846]

They are all jumping because they are trying to play defense something that does not get played today and your comments reflect that you are used to not seen defense being played.

[@tnlkwon6377]

aint no way u thought i was being serious..

[@studyroommusic]

90's players jump against a dunk because they actually take pride on defense. Does not matter if they get posterized. They need to put a body on Jordan and make his shots harder at least.

[@JB-un2iv]

Let me get this right..old head hoop fans that have watched old hoop and still watch new hoop, dont understand? But someone who has only watched this era does? Htf that make sense? Also, u are correct that the league is more skilled today but they had better ball players then...for instance guys like joker and Luka are no where near the most skilled players in the league yet they dominate todays game....

[@fitzroy6970]

This era is not more skilled that’s a lie,the past players are more skilled than these mfers

[@JB-un2iv]

@@fitzroy6970 couldn't disagree more. Most these players have had individual skills coaching since they have been kids. Gil, speaks to how older eras rarely worked on any individual skills, they played actual games instead.....why the bball iq was better in the past.....higher level individual skill doesn't necessarily mean better basketball player tho.

[@whenisdinner2137]

​@@JB-un2ivIf your idea of skilled is one v one, get a bucket, then yeah, this era is better. If you mean fundamentals and five man Ball then not really.

[@JB-un2iv]

@@whenisdinner2137 handles, shooting, range, bag, all way more developed today and its not wven a debate. and what your not considering is its basically top to bottom on the roster....older eras had benchfulls of underskilled bigs and defensive stoppers because of how the game was played....I already said more skilled doesn't equal better ball player. The tradeoff of focusing on skill development is less time of actually ballin, where u pick up things like, passing, spatial awareness, flow, understandingof the game in real time...

[@lennybeason1110]

Exactly! This is y players today have no fundamentals and definitely have low basketball IQs!

[@asadadon]

These are just highlights. He was doing that type of stuff throughout the game. When the Chicago Bulls were playing. Everyone was watching. And he didn't disappoint.

[@sopa71479]

They were throwing double teams and help defense against mj. And he still has the highest ppg. In todays game would avg 40 to 45ppg. He would live at the line.

[@tnlkwon6377]

help defense was illegal go back and watch the games and google is free.

[@sopa71479]

@@tnlkwon6377 i actually watched the games not highlight teams were doubling and using help defense. Pacers, knicks, pistons, heat, sonics were notorius for pushing the boundary of what is legal and what is not

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@sopa71479 u saying that like full games don’t exist on KZbin bro anyone can watch 😂

[@sopa71479]

@@tnlkwon6377 you right, they are available so you can clearly see there were many instances of double teaming and help defense

[@sopa71479]

@@tnlkwon6377 a guy about 15 years ago made the claim that you're making, but this was in regards to a kobe /mj comparison and the emphasis was on defense. There was another video created that completely destroyed that narrative. Look up kjordan vs zone. I warn you, the quality of the vid is highly pixalated

[@jhad777]

Bruh Jordan is by far the GOAT, Lebron honestly isn’t even close to Jordan and I’m sorry ya’ll fam boys can’t except the truth, Lebron has 6 Finals losses compared to Jordan’s 6 wins and ZERO losses…Lebron has failed way more with more help…EVERY MAJOR POLL EVER has Jordan as the GOAT at a almost 3-1 ratio, Ya’ll literally have to create false narratives to try and diminish Jordan when all we have to do is just look at the timeline of Lebron’s career to see his terrible failures…Lebron has the most Finals games lost in NBA history man

[@tnlkwon6377]

the whole finals record thing is just a cop out. Bulls won 50+ games the szn Jordan retired, he had an all time great team. Rings are team success.

[@jhad777]

@@tnlkwon6377 It’s only a cop out to you fan boys…Every other generation has viewed winning as the greatest metric except yours, which is trying to change the narrative and make excuses for failures

[@jhad777]

Is 50 wins a championship??? Then what are you talking about? They lost in the 2nd round…Clearly Jordan made them champions and his 6 FMVP’s prove that

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@jhad777 if ur whole argument is ring’s then jordan still isn’t the goat lmao have a blessed day sir im not arguing all day

[@lonnellejones9131]

​@@tnlkwon6377because you don't have an argument. Rings is 1 of the things that matter. If he had the rings you'd be singing a different tune just like y'all like to use the points. Whereas Jordan reached 30000 points way quicker than LeFlop. No matter what category you try to argue for the GOAT Jordan is somewhere at the top if not the top.He accomplished way more in a shorter amount of time.

[@cbobobo8384]

He was All-Star game MVP three times and Defensive Player of the Year. He was all-defensive first team nine times and the NBA scoring leader 10 times. He led the league in steals three times and was All-Star slam dunk champion twice.

[@Steve-hq4fm]

Dude, the 90's were one of the top 2 decades in basketball!! Every single NBA team had not 1, but 2 stars on it, and usually some other pretty good player who was close to being a star, but not quite!!! As far as Kobe goes, before he died I would show people I had Kobe at #12 all-time, and everybody agreed with the whole list. After he died, suddenly everybody has him in their top 5!! So no, dying didn't make him better, so he's still at #12!!!

[@spunterage]

Yeah Bronstans are such nice and respectful basketball fans 🤦‍♂️

[@TheThreeHeadedDragon]

They were jumping with him so they could contest his shot. If they contest another player's shot there is a chance that they can knock the ball out of the air, throw the player off balance so they miss, or knock the player down out of the air. In any of those scenarios, the shot doesn't go in the basket for most players... Jordan was one of the few exceptions. His competitors described him as "cat-quick and deceptively strong" so he would just muscle through his opponents in the air. He had to adopt that because The Pistons were actively trying to hurt players, especially Michael, early on in his career. Their goal when he went up in the air was not to go after the ball but to go after him. Bill Laimbeer, Isiah Thomas, and Dennis Rodman often tackled him out of the air... he still averaged 37 points against them in his career.

[@jdirtyrmft]

There's a big difference between seeing a role player "do some shit like.." and a mf going out there doing this same shit EVERY game...every night the bulls had a game MJ would have 3+ plays on the SC top 10...MJ is low key the reason they had a top 10 plays

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

You said the same thing for two minutes, what is the use of reacting to the video and your not reacting to it. You have issues, it's not the Jordan Fans They're not talking you are. You just won't stop. If you read this comment I'm not important in your life, you are. I want you to watch your reaction, this reaction.theres more to this.

[@tnlkwon6377]

said i was done responding but this was funny yall taking this shi way too seriously 🤣

[@BruceJohnson-om5kl]

@@tnlkwon6377 your past Serious, Seriously 😳

[@MicroWave233]

You know the NBA got rid of zone defense in 1957 because they didnt like players sagging off their man and not comitting to defense. Illegial defense basically gets rid of that by forcing a player to stick to his man. And you were allowed to send double teams but it had to be once the player got the ball. But you forgetting one thing, the defense back then was more prominent. You could handcheck your guy and have a center camping in the piant without the 3 second rule. Jordan makes guys look bad on defense because of his speed, he had one of the quickest 1st steps in history. You dont have to take my word, KG said he was guarding mike and he blinked and dude was gone. James worthy said Mike made you look slow on defense. His nick name was the Black Cat cause he manuerved like one.

[@LoveAllWomen]

This comment should have a lot more likes. Perfectly said.

[@DeadSpaceman2012]

“Old Head Rant” 😂 I now understand why people say, “Why are you jumping?” when players try to block the dunks in these highlights. The rules have changed the game so there is less defense and faster paced offense with fewer pauses in the game. You’re most likely going to get a foul called today. The amount of 3 point shots attempted and made, the spacing and rule changes to defense and the “gather step” (an effect of AND1 and Streetball) I think are why we have so many high scoring games and crazy blowouts. In the 80s, 90s and early 00s defense was a more important part of the game and blocks could make the difference in whether you win or not. Defense has never been flashy or that exciting but great defense makes great offense look even more impressive. Also, it wasn’t about being “disrespected” when you get dunked on. The NBA needs to compete with changing attention spans. They can’t lose viewers to their phones every time there’s a pause in play. They need exciting plays to happen on both ends of the floor constantly. I absolutely agree that the talent and skill level in the current NBA has increased, including the players on the bench but that is a direct effect of Michael Jordan. He inspired a lot of players, including greats like Bryant, Iverson, Carter AND James. My favorite team was the Sonics and Gary Payton was my favorite player. He and Shawn Kemp were a blast to watch. So I never rooted for Jordan except when he played the Jazz but he definitely is the GOAT. When he retired, fans were like, “We have a chance now!” He broke a lot of city’s hearts, set a lot of records and changed the game like no other player has since. The atmosphere around the NBA, not just here in the States but around the world, is hard to describe. It’s why there are so many international players in the NBA now. Thanks for the reaction!

[@DeadSpaceman2012]

I just had to say, some of the rude ass comments in here are ridiculous. It’s all good if you think Lebron is the GOAT. Agree to disagree but in the end, it’s a game we love to watch and play. Keep ballin’ man. 💪🏼

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@DeadSpaceman2012 its funny how mad they are but ima keep letting em go cuz they just boosting algorithm 🤣 preciate the words and support 🙏🏾

[@DeadSpaceman2012]

@@tnlkwon6377 they’re salty but a little salt adds flavor! 💯

[@michaelwhite8119]

Right. This. You all know this is what the video is all about. Enjoy the algo hit high.

[@drumlooney]

I'm a Knicks fan and I hated Michael Jordan, that being said for those of us who experienced watching MJ, Kobe and Lebron it's easy to admit Jordan is the goat. Has nothing to do with who my favorite player is or who my team is but you have to call it as it is. I lot of you Lebron fans call him the goat without ever watching anything that came before that's why people get up in arms about the conversation.

[@tnlkwon6377]

i actually have watched jordan games sir and to me Lebron is by far a more complete basketball player. I respect ur opinion tho

[@jhad777]

@@tnlkwon6377 Lebron is not even close to being more complete, Jordan is simply better and anyone who was alive to watch both eras will tell you that

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@jhad777 👍🏾

[@My-by]

@@tnlkwon6377 What you need to do brah is go on KZbin and watch every aspect of Jordan’s game, pull up the steals videos, pull up the passing videos or the block videos or the all shots videos or even left hand videos! Don’t be ignorant cause of Lebron he ain’t no where near on the level of Micheal Jordan when it comes to all around game.

[@charleswitherspoon1295]

@drumlooney I agree ..I hated when he came to the MSG you had to respect his game he a killer..I was glad when Starks put him on a poster that was the last basket of the game. After 91 he took everyone's rings

[@MosmanDef1]

Remember when you used to be scared of the dark or something like that? That’s the same feeling that people had playing against Jordan

[@tnlkwon6377]

man what the hell do yall be talking about lmao

[@leechrec]

Anyone who says MJ doesn't have a left needs to be put in a mental institution. He is arguably the greatest off hand finisher in NBA history.

[@OwenVaughn-v8s]

Luka and Jokic are the two of the best players in the league but I can run backwards faster than the both of them. The league has been declining slowly with European players becoming the face of the league. No way in HELL J, Bird Magic etc would allow that to hap

[@davegandy6939]

The look on your face @17:9-11 tells the story too. LBJ don't have no highlights like this man homes. Come on champ.😂

[@ciarrajohnson3849]

14:44 MJ made everyone look like they needed some sleep, just like he would do to today’s players. Defenses collapsed sometimes because he had everyone shook😄He used to love the big ones, so Lebron would be a nice piece of Jerky (Have you seen MJs AWARD LIST❓❓❓❓)🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cano21]

This video has convinced me that Lebron fans are just really ignorant. All they've ever seen is Lebron, so they assume he's the GOAT, bless their little ignorant hearts 😂

[@jamesredmond9059]

Dude you sound so ignorant with your commentary. They jump because it is their job. They also have to honor all of his fakes because his game had 0 weaknesses.

[@tnlkwon6377]

wasn't being serious when I said that relax man it aint that deep i promise lol

[@michaelwhite8119]

This is pretty much 90% trolling. Chill. He hasn’t watched nearly enough tape to make an educated critique. No one would be narcissistic to actual claim they could make a declaration and be taken seriously while at the same time claiming he didn’t have all the information.

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@michaelwhite8119 somebody gets it lol. I’ve been watching ball and playing my whole life if i wanted to make a channel doing serious ball takes i could but thats not really what i enjoy doing. Preciate ya for watching

[@leechrec]

Jordan was already being called the GOAT after his first 3peat. That's how insane he was. After coming back from retirement, what does he do? Wins 3 straight championships again.

[@jca4343]

Man I started typing this as I was watching your video and this got too long. First its not us MJ fans. Those of us who watched him know the difference between guys like MJ and Lebron. Compare MJ to guys like Bird, Magic, Kareem...we are good with that. We may disagree, but most older actual basketball fans will still respect the comparison. Comparing him to Lebron. No. Lebron has games, playoff games, finals games... you name it, he quit. Lebron got outplayed by Jason Terry and JJ Barrea. I watched games with lebron where you just saw he quit. He walked off the court early. He sits when he is healthy. MJs last 3 peat he played 82, 82, and 82 games. Outside of the years he broke a foot and came out of retirement he missed a total of 7 games with the bulls. With the wizards he missed time his first year because of his knee. His last year with them he played 82 games. MJ showed more respect for the fans. Thats why he tried to play every game. MJs game had no weaknesses. Lebron is a weak freethrow shooter. He shoots about 37% from outside 3 feet. He was a good defender when he wanted to be. He just usually chose not to. MJ has 9 first team defenses. Lebron had 5 first team and 1 second team in many more years. Lebron is more than willing to throw teammates and coaches under the bus. You didn't see older guys like MJ do that. MJ always took the responsibility. He may say they need to be better as a team, but that was the worst of it. MJ cared about winning. Lebron doesnt give a damn about anything but his stats. He said it himself. There was a game his team lost and they were interviewing him and he said to look at his stats. That is a difference. MJ said he didn't care about stats. He wanted to win. The stats just came with it. You see guys make plays like MJ on occasion. MJ had plays like these every game. His games were highlight films. You never knew what he was going to do. The players are not necessarily more skilled now. They allow players to get away with more. All the guys you see with the fancy dribbling now would have been called for traveling, double dribbles or a carry back then. These step back 3s would all be called for traveling. Also there is a difference. Guys now want to sit and dance and dribble. Watch MJ. quick first step 1 or 2 dribbles to blow past someone or pull up. It was about efficiency. Its also easier to do stuff when defenders cant touch you. No one getting under your feet when you shoot. They jumped with him back then because their job was to try to stop him. Its different than today when guys don't want to try. You are talking about the defense back then. How many players do what Jordan did with the ball, back then or now. How many people do all the ball fakes... And with the size of MJs hands you had to respect the fakes even with one hand. How many guys have the footwork? He made guys look bad because he was just that good. He had a counter for almost everything. If he knew you wouldn't go for the fake the next time it wouldnt be a fake. MJ really could average 45. He averaged 37 in the 86-87 season. Now add in a couple 3 point shots per game. More spacing. Most of the top shot blockers in the game played in MJs era. He easily gets to the line a few more times per game and he was a good free throw shooter. No push off. Watch the play. He doesnt really extend his arm. He would have no leverage to push the way his arm went. Also if you look at the defender he was already out of position. His hips were turned and he was running with MJ.

[@charleswitherspoon1295]

All FACTS and I'm a Knicks fan I hated when he played us but liked when he played other teams because he going to do something make say wow .He was MUST see TV 📺 like mayweather love him or hate him you going to watch

[@Fabrício-i2k]

Jordan would average much more than James Harden, he is a completely different killer comparing with harden. I know that players now are more skilled, atlethic and better shooters, but the defense now is worse. The current way of defending would fit MJ's game, with no hand checking and a lot of space, he would average 40 to 43 ppg. More free throws, more 3 point, etc

[@tnlkwon6377]

i actually went and watched older games. Idk what was elite about that defense i saw nothing that screamed “yea this better than defense today”. Defense isn’t worse today players are just way more gifted offensively.

[@rawbellco49]

I’ve seen all three ERAs Jordan,Kobe and Lebron . Jordan separated himself from every player. When did we start rewarding players for losing Championships while playing on a Super Team? You see players do things with a 3 second rule 😂. Players will react to every move Jordan made (the fear factor). Lebron has been in the league for 20 years with 40k points and 4 Championships that is underachieving.Jordan career AVG is 30 points, James Harding had 1 good season and shrank in the Post Season in Houston. The MVP Award is named after who? and why

[@tnlkwon6377]

40k pts and 4 chips is underachieving? have a blessed day sir lol

[@rawbellco49]

@tnlkwon6377 Michael Jordan had 29k points and 6 Championships, 6 MVPs! Which one is more impressive 🤔

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@rawbellco49 well seeing MJ don’t got the most chips in nba history ima take the most points all time and 4 rings

[@rawbellco49]

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[@My-by]

@@tnlkwon6377 He only got more points cause he is playing longer! THAT DONT MAKE LEBRON NO WHERE NEAR THE BEST PLAYER IN HISTORY! 😂 people been buying Jordan’s for a reason! Cause he’s the real goat.😂

[@Luangori]

They were quintuple teaming him..and triple teaming him....and he still made them look like kids....

[@kdubbster]

It’s funny how kids today speak on what players couldn’t do back then when they wasn’t even born yet 😂

[@MasterSpade]

GOAT List: 1. Jordan S p a c e 2. Kareem 3. Bird >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron Lebron is #9 at Best!!!!!

[@mannwalehunter8556]

First, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Second, a self proclaimed king isn't a king at all. Third, Lebrons fans have the toxic trait of thinking longevity is better than actual accolades. Just because you play longer, doesn't mean you're better. If Lebron was so good, why isn't he in the 3k club? Why doesn't he have more scoring titles? If he was so good on defense, why doesn't he have a DPOY?

[@leechrec]

I don't know why people who watch this highlight reel miss how insane the move at 1:35 is.

[@trueballertv665]

First I want to say do your thing! Secondly to say the defense is way better than today’s no defense league and you know that. You looking at this all wrong those were pros and to say that they were not good instead of saying MJs greatest made them look bad! Lebron can’t do those things MJ can and you know it! Saying LeBron is better with the flopping and whining is crazy! Harden? MJ has the highest regular season and playoffs ppg in history! MJ averaged 37 ppg in 88 and scored 3000 points in a season!!!

[@tnlkwon6377]

fouling hard isn’t good defense lol. Defensive schemes are way more complex nowadays and players are literally more athletic its called evolution

[@chriswilliams8849]

​@tnlkwon6377 I actually agree with you that overall, today's players are more athletic. But being more athletic has nothing to do with skill and fundamentals. My opinion is that today's player depend on their athletic abilities rather than their fundamentals and developing their skills. That's why a couple of very non athletic players, Luka and the Joker are able to dominate the game

[@My-by]

⁠@@tnlkwon6377 You do no that Lebron only missed Jordan by about 2 months right? It ain’t like it’s been 50 yrs between Jordan and the players now! That evolution thing is way over hyped in this case.

[@daddydazzle2312]

I got lucky and was born in time to watch jordan the last few seasons in his career and the jordan fans ho a little hard sometimes but they are right, I think ppl assume the players are better now days because it's misleading, if the defense can't touch you then the offense has the freedom to do whatever they want, in the 90's u were able to get knocked on ur ass if u didn't watch out. To put Jordan's superiority into context, Jordan's worst year with the bulls was his rookie year (top 50 all time season) and his rookie season was essentially the same as kobes best season.

[@lonnellejones9131]

Your generation don't even play defense! Recommend you do a deep dive and pull up some of those players. Y'all keep talking about better players and skills, yet it's funny how y'all generation lost in the Olympics with LeFlop and one of the FIBA world cup once with Flop yet they lost twice! And, with a star studded cast.

[@tnlkwon6377]

the yr we got bronze Lebron barely played google is free 🤦🏾‍♂️. Have a blessed day

[@lonnellejones9131]

He was still on the team of generational talent that y'all like to point out. Take your own advice and actually use Google. I'll take my 90's players over this crop of players any day of the week.

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@lonnellejones9131 and they’ll lose 👍🏾

[@lonnellejones9131]

@@tnlkwon6377 you're on mushrooms

[@leechrec]

"MJ wasn’t a traditional big man, but he was an everything guy .... Whenever we played the Bulls, we’d double and triple team MJ in the post as soon as he put the ball on the floor. " - Hakeem Olajuwon "Last season, Jordan had to overcome the harrassment of zone traps and double-triple teaming to average 37.1 points a game." - The New York Times, 1987 "By comparison, Lebron was doubled-teamed a TOTAL of 18 times in the entire Finals... So in comparison to MJ getting double-teamed 12 times in a single quarter, Lebron was doubled 3 times per game." - ESPN, 2005 Micharl Jordan was arguably the most double and triple teamed player in NBA history. In fact, double teams increased in the NBA when Michael Jordan played.

[@caesarleo3702]

Keeping it a buck as you young fellas say. Been watching basketball for 50 years. MJ is the only player better than his highlights. He gave 110% every night and never left fans disappointed. MJ played the game when big men ruled the paint. With todays spacing and soft defense he would easily average 45. He would shoot 10 plus more free throws.

[@tnlkwon6377]

respect ur opinion but i disagree preciate ya for watching

[@leechrec]

GOAT does GOAT things.

[@derekgarcia1030]

All you have to do is look at the teams and players he beat for titles and the ones Bron beat.....it's not even close. MJ beat many all time greats. He didnt have to leave teams because they weren't winning, he made winning teams. The fact that you say he played against weaker competition shows your lack of NBA intelligence.He played against and beat all time greats. Bird, Magic, Barkley, Thomas, Akeem, Malone, Stockton, Not to mention the kind of physical game they played. Put bron against the Bad Boy Pistons and he'd have cried and quit. Lol it's over your head. MVP and defensive player of the year, who else did that? two three-peats who else did that? Six straight finals MVPS who did that? Just stop son. You're trying so hard to change peoples minds and you're running up hill on ice.

[@rockerforlife194]

MJ is the G.O.A.T., no questions asked. All others just wish they was as good as him. Nobody else even comes close. Facts.

[@dannybachner899]

I'll explain to you why everyone jumps. Because before around 2008 coaches and general managers controled the league, Not players. So if you didn't jump and you didn't show effort you would be on the bench or even possibly traded. As far as the players being more skilled today you said it so you need to prove that. There's no hand checking today there's no defensive 3 seconds today. But the FG % is the same today as the 90s. And the 3 pt % is only 1.4 % higher today. So they're definitely not more skilled shooting today. If you're talking about dribbling and handles and how big men are more versatile today and can dribble and shoot from outside, thats true. But you need to understand that big men in the 90s were not paid to dribble or shoot outside they were supposed to be down in the paint.

[@tnlkwon6377]

ain’t no way u thought i was being serious when i said ts..

[@dannybachner899]

@@tnlkwon6377 I've seen so many reactions of people saying why are you jumping that it's hard to tell who's serious.

[@vincentallen1318]

@@tnlkwon6377gotta get better at the “jokes/ trolling/ not serious” thing. It's not translating.

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@vincentallen1318 …

[@M-10VisualDistributions]

This guy trying to find any excuse to hate on the GOAT comparing him to role-players of today. Somebody, please tell this guy no role players have won 6 rings (two 3 peats) in 8 years. MJ has the highest scoring avg 30.1 in NBA history and a playoff avg 33.4 per game. Imma just remind this guy of his stats. He talking about what he sees players of today doing....where in the hell does he think they got it from? The swag, playing style, watching video games, highlights etc.......man please! 6× NBA champion (1991-1993, 1996-1998) 6× NBA Finals MVP (1991-1993, 1996-1998) 5× NBA Most Valuable Player (1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998) 14× NBA All-Star (1985-1993, 1996-1998, 2002, 2003) 3× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1988, 1996, 1998) 10× All-NBA First Team (1987-1993, 1996-1998) All-NBA Second Team (1985) Man shut the front door! Networth $3.2 Billion 1st billion dollar athlete.

[@lowellandrews5623]

You only see the bad defense in the clip but the defense was better current NBA players even say that

[@katrinachavez3533]

He just doesn't realize that MJ was just that damn good. He made top 10 perimeter defenders all-time (Moncrief, Alvin Robertson, Rodman, Michael Cooper, Payton, Dennis Johnson, Dumars, Pippen-in practice) look mediocre. Zeke Thomas, before he started clockin' envy instead of the time ala Morris Day said "Jordan is so good at times he makes the best NBA players look like high-schoolers. This kid isn't too bright. Too have the audacity to claim bad defense when today's defense is the worst we've ever witnessed.

[@VAHOSS]

It's not Jordan fans bro... it's basketball fans. Majority of MJ fans have lived through the Bird/Magic era, the MJ era, the Kobe/Shaq era, and the LeBron era. We have seen differences in skill and impact on the game. Y'all ain't basketball fans bro, Y'all are LeBron fanboys posing as basketball fans. Your personal skill level means nothing when you're talking about the greatest of all times

[@tnlkwon6377]

ok

[@katrinachavez3533]

Bunch of TikTokers that only excel on a computer. They know basketball like Bo knew New Balance cross-trainers.

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@katrinachavez3533 actually played basketball in college, that’s probably higher than 95% of the ppl commenting on this vid have ever gotten but preciate ur input ✊🏾

[@chrisneedham1676]

5:20 because it was a competition; unlike the game today.

[@spunterage]

Larry would be an elite defender compared to these no D playing dudes today.

[@nashmcintosh2578]

Players today are not more skilled. It’s just that the skills players focus on in todays game has changed. Today is more about shooting 3s and flashy passes and flashy ball handling. You don’t see a lot of that in the 90s. But in the 90s, everyone had a post game. Every team had a rim protector. There was a lot less iso and a lot more offensive schemes. Players had to give equal effort on defense. The focus on skills has changed. Not the skill level

[@jasperlbrimagejr4954]

Bro they did double team him most of his career no cap

[@mikeparriott]

Crazy Kids. 😄

[@patrickmontie9583]

Short answer: Yes, everyone wants to be like Mike. 😊

[@libfit9068]

7:37 something people young fans don't seem to understand is that the top players in the league will still be top players in the league regardless of era. Like Jordan was the best player in the league by a good margin while he was already passed his prime at 35 years old. A league with teams like the Twin Towers Tim Duncan and David Robinson. The 4 Allstar Lakers Kobe, Shaq, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel. The Jazz Malone Stockton Duo. Patrick Ewing's Knicks. The Payton, Kemp Sonics. Alonzo Mourning Tim Hardaway Heat. Reggie Millers Pacers. Not to mention the great teams of earlier in the 90s, like Barkleys Suns, Dominique’s Hawks, Bad Boy Pistons, Drexlers Trailblazers, Hakeems Rockets, etc Along with great guards/f such as Penny Hardaway, Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Jason Kidd, Steve Nash, Ray Allen, Grant Hill, Chris Webber, Ben Wallace, etc. LeBron even in his PRIME struggled against some of these players who were already OLD. Jordan dominated while only ever having 1 single allstar teammate. Keep in mind, LeBron couldn't win until he formed a team with stacked with 3 allstars (including 3rd greatest SG of all time and an 11x straight perennial allstar) only to lose to Mavs who only had 1 single allstar, Dirk (someone who was drafted in the 90s might I add). LeBron has had MORE HoF'ers and Allstars ON HIS OWN TEAM and STILL LOST in the Finals against teams with LESS HoF'ers. Jordan has had LESS HoF'ers and Allstars ON HIS OWN TEAM and STILL WON in the Finals against team with MORE HoF'ers.

[@NirvanaHalen]

Dude. I rooted against Jordan in the last 2 championships. I said it - double team him. They tried, it didn’t work. If Jordan shot the ball, it went in, every-time. In his day he was known for fade away believe it or not. He shot from all ranges and almost never missed. And of course he could sky jam on people, but his sharp shooting was what he was best at. He was the greatest of all time. Never since has a player dominated his sport, in any sport, the way Jordan dominated basketball

[@peruedi86]

2% likes (vs views)...that should tell you what the world thinks of your opinions on the GOAT MICHAEL JORDAN!

[@tnlkwon6377]

its a jordan highlight video so jordan fans clicked on the video it would make sense that they wouldn’t like it if i wasn’t saying what they wanted to hear 😂 preciate ur input tho ☝🏾

[@davegandy6939]

I'm glad you said it! To quote you sir, "There's nothing you can do about it." THAT was MJ. He was unstoppable. LBJ is stoppable.

[@tonyt888]

Can't say competition is weaker in the 90's because you can't even play any defense today. Any era where defense is not being played is the weak era. as much as you want think that your era is more 'skilled' today, it's not. Defense is a also a skill. Post up is a skill. midrange shot is a skill. Them be 3 skills that are missing today so your argument that your era is more skilled is false.

[@a.n.h.b.3376]

The name of the game back then was Defense. If you didn't contest you were subbed out. There was no such thing as having too much ego to not getting dunked on. People went for his fakes because you had to honor everything he did. He had the best midi in the history of the league. Some say Kobe is Jordan 2.0 because Kobe had an added skill: the 3pt shot, which Jordan only used at the end of the shot clock or just to prove a point (see '92 Finals). He never worked on the 3 because he thought he might fall in love with it to the point that it'd take away from his inside game where he knew he had an advantage. You'll find a bunch of guys doing some of what he did, but you won't find anyone with the whole set of skills that he had, including the will and commitment to play D as intensively as his offense. This video shows some of his highlights in chronological order so you can see his impact and his progression, but it's not his best video. This video doesn't tell you that you were likely to see about 5 of these plays from him EVERY GAME. I'm almost sure someone has already recommended MJ best rare footage vids; I'm sure you'll find those interesting. He wasn't my fav player, but i know he was the best, and no one player before or after him has given me enough evidence to change my opinion. The fact that you repeat some of what you hear without doing your homework and knowing the history of the subject shows here; but keep an open mind and keep on learning.

[@vincentallen1318]

Questioned Magic, but said “lay me” numerous times in the video.

[@leechrec]

Jordan is complete. He did everything with more efficiency and decisiveness than Kobe. That's not a knock on Kobe.

[@stevendunlap503]

You said Patrick Erwin was trash for not defending (9:04) and at the same time you are saying they are stupid for jumping trying to defend. Make it make sense. As far as the " push off" Russell has never came forth and said Jordan pushed off. Unless he steps out and say it was a push, then it wasn't a push.

[@SkittlezGTI]

Did you know that MJ is more efficient with his left hand than any player ever with their right hand?

[@notablindliberal896]

You said Bird can't play defense, please. How much of Larrys career have you seen? Or MJs, for that matter? You know why ita old people is because we've watched for 40 or 50 yrs. Im not a Jordan fan. Was a Kareem and Magic fan. Jordan would score 40 a game in todays soft league. Agian, not a Jordan fan. Young punk, no disrespect. No substitute for experience. I've seen all the players and you've seen and more. Tell me 1 thing Lebron does better than Jordan. Then we can chat. 😂😂😂

[@ryanbrooks8045]

It's not that players are more skilled now. It's just the NBA requires a very different skillset and due to the rules that skillset is a lot flashier and quicker. Even the types of defenses and the strategies on D were different. The physicality required players to be bigger to withstand it which in turn meant they were less agile. So someone from today who appreciates the agility and quickness has a hard time appreciating the different game and the skillsets that game required.

[@vincespell]

More skilled, what skill does the players have today that they didn't have back then???????????????

[@chriswilliams8849]

More athletic, yes. More skilled fundamentally? Hell to the no! That's why non athletic players like Luka and Joker dominate the game

[@bigraj337]

Carrying, palming, double dribbling, and traveling = Super skills

[@essentialjordan23]

The amount of nonsense spewed in this video… wow. It’s a shame what ESPN and social media has done to corrupt the minds of young sports fans.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

Jordan averaged 37 when you could handcheck and there were legitimate shot blockers. Cant touch him and once he blows by his defender, which he would there wiuld be nothing between him and the rim. We'd be asking of he could score 100

[@tnlkwon6377]

if u play basketball Hanchecking doesn’t really do much imo. Helps a little i guess. i said in the video i would give him around 32-35 in this era.

[@nathanmckenzie904]

@tnlkwon6377 it doesn't do much seriously? I can move my feet well and that makes me a decent defender. But when I can put my hands on you and steer you I become a good defender. If you haven't played during the era with handchecking it's hard to understand

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@nathanmckenzie904 Ive played basketball my whole life and played in college. When ppl would handcheck u can always swipe their hand down. U train to do that as an offensive player. Handchecking isn’t stopping elite offensive players man quit it

[@nathanmckenzie904]

@tnlkwon6377 I'm not saying it's stopping I'm saying it's hindering their movement. Would you agree that if you can't be touched it's easier to move than if you can be?

[@acchris029]

​@@tnlkwon6377 Hand checking doesn't do much?! Played basketball all my life and i can't believe you just said that. Sorry bro but this will be this last video of yours that i will watch. My advice to you is try sometimes to listen to your elders. I have been there and trust me, my knowledge when i was young was trash compared to what i know now. Don't mind my English for its not my native language.

[@SkittlezGTI]

Jordan was the most double teamed player of all time.

[@Luangori]

Its not that the defence is bad its that the offence its to good...

[@coachmikesfilmroom3111]

I don't know if you know basketball or not. I will say, just understand that a person can play a sport all their life and not know the game in many different ways . I learned that through football. A player can be great and not know the history of the game. Or sometimes not know anything beyond their position. They may know to use a certain technique or skill, but not understand why they're using it. They may see a player as great, but know understand what made them great. They may overlook a player who didn't put up gaudy numbers and not understand that person's greatness. I do have to ask how has the game gotten better? The league dilerlberately set the rules to increase possession and scoring. Defense is at an all time low. It's so easy to get into the paint untouched. The post game is near irrelevant. 3pt shooting has improved, but back in the day it wasn't near as important and rarely practiced

[@tnlkwon6377]

ur opinion is respected

[@Luangori]

And lebron has one of the worst defences i have seen....lebron isnt a defensive minded and oriented player...but michael even better in defense than his offence...all the defensive accolades prove that....

[@bigraj337]

Dude, Bird could play “D” at a fairly high level. 3 times All-Defense 2nd team with perhaps the highest basketball I.Q. of any player. Pay attention to that play and you’ll see that Bird cut Mike off from driving, so MJ had to pull up for the jumper, in the days before Mike developed into the deadly mid-range shooter he would be in late-80s. Also, try watching full games instead of highlights if you want to see how teams typically played defense during games. Highlights won’t showcase the defensive efforts of the guys getting torched, especially when about half of time it’s showing fast break dunks.

[@tnlkwon6377]

can’t remember exactly what i said i made the vid a lil min ago. but if i said he was terrible then i misspoke, he wasn’t athletically gifted so u weren’t gonna put him on elite level offensive guys he was a great team defender tho thats what i meant

[@davidrosario1143]

Cool react .. i will say this ... jordan would absolutely avg 40+ a game ... he avg 37.1 in 87 and that yr he MADE 61 3 pointers with hand checking .. and as far as goat, not only is he the greatest scorer ever, he also made 9 1st team def teams in 11 yrs ...name me a player whos done that since ..and before you say LeBalco, he made only 5 1st team def teams in 21 yrs and hasnt made 1 in his 30s ... jordan was doin it well into his 30s ... not hatin bro ... just putting things into context. Much respect to you

[@tnlkwon6377]

i don’t agree but respect your opinion ✊🏾

[@clarksaura5266]

Dude really said that harden is the greatest offensive player he ever witnessed.. omg

[@tnlkwon6377]

said that stretch in Houston he makes a case never said he was definitely 👍🏾

[@clarksaura5266]

@@tnlkwon6377 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJKqeH2CdqyKm6Msi=_7njLld9gNcHsQUn you're welcome

[@whenisdinner2137]

I'm not gonna say that you're necessarily wrong for thinking Lebron is the GOAT, but I do think you lack information. There are two things Lebron has over Jordan, and that is assists and playing longer. Literally everything else relative to his position Jordan was better at. And no, I'm not talking about the semantics of who had a better team or who had better competition because that shit is stupid and entirely up to interpretation and feelings. Not to mention that how good a team looks is almost entirely dependent on if they win or not, so it automatically punishes Jordan for not losing in the finals and makes his competition look worse than they actually are.

[@tnlkwon6377]

lebron has a higher fg% from 2 and 3. Rebounds better, better playmaker. More versatility on the defensive end. Jordan was great in have him at 2 all time but nostalgia helps jordan entirely too much in these debates.

[@whenisdinner2137]

​@tnlkwon6377 Lebron takes the majority of his shots within three feet from the basket. Outside of three feet, he shoots 37%. He's decent at three pointers but abysmal at the mid range. Also Jordan has the higher PER which accounts for the higher volume of scoring, which naturally lowers your percentages. Also Lebron has not had his percentages tanked by playing 2 season at age 39 and 40 with tendanitus in both knees and in the lowest scoring era of NBA history Relative to his position, Michael Jordan is a better rebounder, and he's also a better offensive rebounder regardless of possition, which means he's not getting cheap boards that nobody else is getting. It's not an nostalgia, I'm literally 25. You just don't know about Jordan for real. Another thing people continue to not mention is that Jordan is actually the highest playoff riser off all time. Lebron is not a playoff faller, but He stays around the same, whereas Jordan increases his stats to literally video game numbers.

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@whenisdinner2137 lebron averaged a trip dub in the finals and he not a riser 🤣. saying jordan a better rebounder “relative to position” is just trying to find a way to be right when u wrong lmao. If u a jordan guy thats cool bron a better player u not changing my mind 👍🏾

[@whenisdinner2137]

@tnlkwon6377 On average, no, he wasn't. A few great players can do that in a 7 game stretch if they wanted to. It's offset massively with his bad performances. In the regular season, lebron averages 28 7 and 7. In the playoffs, he averages 28 9 and 7. He rose in rebounds, and that's about it. In the regular season, michael jordan averages 30 6 and 5. In the playoffs, he averages 33 6 and 5. Jordan's playoffs increase is simply higher. And if we're talking a single final series, give me 93 Jordan easily LMFAO

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@whenisdinner2137 then why he the only player to? u just talkin not making any sense. Have a blessed one 🙏🏾

[@simonbachand1615]

“Not being a hater” hating all video instead of reacting 😂😂😂

[@leone7605]

Russell Westbrook averaged a triple double in this era lol.

[@My-by]

Where is the championships though?

[@cano21]

Almost a quadruple double, if you count turnovers 😂

[@barbahuub]

"the game has gotten better"...yeah, that's one of the reasons 'old heads' are colliding with the young generation.

[@LamonoLee]

What defense they play today

[@jamesmitchell3615]

My guy said "I seen them do a move MJ did", wait, who hasn't seen someone mimic a "move" someone else did? I mean, we would go outside to hoop after watching MJ play and mimic a move he did that night, but what does that have to do with playing like Mike, or being anything close to his caliber of skill and God gifted ability to do what he did every night as a highlight mixtape😂😂😂? You say you play ball your whole life, but playing a game/sport your whole life isn’t equivalent yo knowing the game of basketball. Anyone can learn to shoot, dribble, rebound, defend, but even then there's nuances to the game that takes studying the game and it's history. If knowing the game of basketball was as simple as just playing the game of basketball, then coaches who never played professionally basketball wouldn't exist on the sidelines coaching. Moral of the story is there's levels to this, and playing the game is just the start of knowing the game. At least you're hungry to learn, most youngins think they already know everything lol!

[@lawdog7766]

You can't have a valid opinion if you hate someone this much, which clearly you do, or you know you have just watched the greatest and you are extremely bitter realizing that you have been wrong! Hope this video helped your basketball education.

[@tnlkwon6377]

tf u talking about ? Jordan my second favorite player he just ain’t better than bron lmao

[@louisiana318]

🎯... It won't thou, soft boi era

[@thetruth3732]

This youngsta got a lot to learn about basketball

[@lowellandrews5623]

Jordan shot %50 from the field and averaged 38 harden averaged 35 your wrong because you don't know

[@tnlkwon6377]

google is free. Most jordan averaged was 37 and harden was 36.

[@lowellandrews5623]

@tnlkwon6377 lol 😆 your right I shot out of emotion but you see my point stands watch ,best goat comparison it's the mic drop but to make it simple everything you wish lebron would do Jordan did the truth is it shouldn't be close lebron played longer and did less

[@tnlkwon6377]

@@lowellandrews5623 thats ur opinion and i have mine u not changing my mind and I ain’t changing ur lets just move on

[@lowellandrews5623]

@tnlkwon6377 I'm sorry I'm not trying to come off like crazy jordan fans and I'll respect your opinion it's just that your understand when 5 years from now people say joker was more skilled than lebron your gona be defending lbj sounding like me

[@tnlkwon6377]

i mean if someone down the line looks like a more complete player than bron I wouldn't be afraid to admit it but thats just me

[@MuzikNBball]

Yes the game evolves, better is subjective. This generation is the first in my 30 years of watching basketball that is mad Jordan is the GOAT. It isn't Jordan fans(heck, there's a lot of people that hate Jordan,they still understand hes the GOAT) its LeBron fans that want to elevate him when he hasn't earned it. Its not about fandom, its about who was better and achieved more, with rings as a cherry on top

[@katrinachavez3533]

I'm one that despised MJ but I witnessed that black cat in person and man was he an alien.

[@lionsmind99]

If your only perspective on MJ comes from youtube hightlights and videos and you never watched Jordan play you have zero credibility when comparing MJ and Lebron. You're young and you can only draw from what you grew up watching which is Lebron so how you speaking on MJ? I can go all the way back to me watching Kareem play to the present day and there is no comparison. MJ is far superior to Lebron. Kobe is far superior to Lebron and I can say that with confidence because unlike you I've watched them all play live full games no edited videos. Can you say the same? As for you saying players today are more skilled. How'd you come to that conclusion? Once again you're speaking from a limited perspective. Them youtube videos you watching got you out here sounding ignorant. Today's era of basketball is the softest in nba history. If you ever want to debate me on anything I said holla at me but just know I will take no prisoners in that debate and Im talking about a live video taped debate. Let's get it!

[@inf4mousvloglife1572]

It's the empty can that makes the most noise 😴😞

[@acchris029]

Please react to the video. I just watched the whole video of you commenting on Jordans fans. I know you're a fan of Lebron, but why you reacting Jordan's highlights but not even paying attention to the video.

[@tnlkwon6377]

u obviously ain’t watch the video i was reacting to the highlights. And i said Jordan was my 2nd favorite player. u just heard what u wanted to hear lmao

[@leechrec]

Even MJ shot left handed free throws.

[@wzrdhndrixx7089]

The league today has better athletes not better basketball players lot of em can play without the ball play with their back to the basket…Luka has plumber abilities physically and dominating

[@tnlkwon6377]

“better athletes not better basketball players” lmaoo

[@jalonrhodes8219]

@@tnlkwon6377you confused by that? Don’t get it? You showing low b ball IQ

[@tnlkwon6377]

he contradicted himself by the luka example. so who has low ball iq ?

[@MosmanDef1]

The bottom line is Jordan is the blueprint for everything that most of the players are doing today even Lebron😮

[@shayj2550]

Hey TNL, if you're saying that Lebron is rhe GOAT you have to justify it. Simply 'feeling so' is not good enough. You have to present some reasons, bcuz, honestly, I've never seen Lebron do half the things I saw in this video. You shd react to the great GOAT debate by Danger productions. Very scientific analysis between the two great players. 👍🏼

[@tnlkwon6377]

obviously i have reasons but there wasn’t a reason to say it in this video. I might make a separate video explaining it

[@tastein000]

I understand your view and you know what you see. As LeBron is who you know and you have the right to your opinion. The defense was much condensed in the paint and not as wide open as it is today. I respect LeBron as a player, but can't over his attitude and him chasing rings. I'm not sure if a LeBron fan can talk about defense, as we've seen his stellar display of lack of defense.

[@tnlkwon6377]

refreshing to see a calm respectful comment lol. i will say nowadays lebron doesn’t lock in defensively as much as he used to but opponents still shoot the lowest % from the field against him compared to anyone in the league. he’s 39 so i don’t expect him to sit down and play elite defense for 82 games but he’s never been a liability on that end. and for the attitude i feel like all great players have bad attitudes especially when it comes to losing is that fair to say?

[@CT-cf6wm]

MJ,Kobe, not sure if I got lebron in the top 5. He only lead his team twice to the NBA finals to win one of which Irving took the last shot to win that series. Wilt was the all-time leading score so as well, and he was never the greatest. Lebron is also the all-time leading turnover, most shots taken all time and most missed all time. But No one wants to talk about that. LbJ is an all time great I prob got him in 5-8 all time. Maybe 4.

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not top 5 is just hating atp. most shots missed is kobe although bron will eventually pass him after playing 22+ seasons. TOs are bound to happen when u handle the ball for 20 yrs. We not gone talk about kerr hitting shots for jordan? u obviously just look for negatives have a blessed day

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Not hating he’s amazing player but longevity stats. Don’t mean anything if you’re not winning rings that’s just him fluff his stats. He’s an amazing player. Had still has an amazing career. He’s got no mid rain shot. He’s 37% from mid range jumpshot that’s LeBron‘s major problem along with he’s 75% from free throw line which is exactly why he doesn’t like having the ball within the last two minutes.

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@@CT-cf6wm Lebron is the only player that gets penalized for taking care of his body lol. Not his fault he’s dedicated to the game. and all ik is he’s put the ball in the basket more than anyone in history. 75% from the line isn’t even bad idky u brought that up. And i see u avoiding mentioning him shooting 40% from 3 now too. Not gone argue all day have a blessed one 🙏🏾

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@@tnlkwon6377 not arguing, just talking bro I like your show not hating on LeBron. I just don’t see him as a top three player. He’s an amazing athlete definitely takes care of his body 💯! That being said, there is a lot of scandals being covered up about him with the Balco scandal with him using EPO‘s and PED’s. Anyway, I like your channel. And yes you’re right the athletes of today are amazing but if they were so amazing why are two of the least athletic players of today from Europe dominating the game? Just asking questions and talking I subscribe to your channel and good luck.

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@@CT-cf6wm appreciate the support 🙏🏾 i saw gilbert arenas talkin about jordan and steroid use in the 90s might be something u want to look into as well. I respect ur opinion, we don’t have to agree but i respect it ✊🏾