Is MiSTer FPGA 2 Coming? Terasic DE25 and the Future of FPGA

[@dataterminal]

A lot of the existing cores still have improvements. I'd much prefer to see these perfected and have the additional features, like the save states that got modded in recently, for a more rounded and perfected core before rushing off to try and build bigger ones that won't really be feature complete anyway.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Both go hand in hand imo

[@xMaGuSx888]

I would imagine that is more possible with an FPGA that is more capable with more power.

[@tpm1999]

Bro, my Uncle works for Terasic and he says itll play PS5 games.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

🤣 nice

[@8bitnation419]

PS5 core needs to happen

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

In 40 years maybe

[@8bitnation419]

@@VideoGameEsoterica It doesn't need to happen. Since both Xbox and PlayStation use X86 AMD APU's they're essentially pc's. Eventually you'd be able to just play those games natively on PC by installing a compatibility layer.

[@randallgoeswhere]

Bro my mom owns Terasic. I's gonna play Switch 3.

[@erockbrox8484]

Intel: I bet someone is going to use this chip for school homework. Actual Usage: Playing retro video games.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Haha I mean sounds like a good use to me

[@Wobble2007]

Only thing is that the DE25 has no SRAM, which was a pretty sore spot for the DE10, no PMOD either for adding it. Replay 2 looks a lot more compelling if you want to upgrade from MiSTer, just the audio specs alone make it exciting, real MIDI, PWM, VLM5030 and FM out of the box.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I need to do a vid on Replay 2 at some point

[@Wobble2007]

@@VideoGameEsoterica Yes please :) Would love a vid on it, hybrid emulation is the future imo, combining something like RGB-Pi or Replay OS with MiSTer.

[@nathanddrews]

@@VideoGameEsoterica Yes please!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I just need to gather more info

[@RiccardoGrc]

What is replay 2?!

[@yokeinnchan8401]

Speaking as an Engineer (Computer Systems, graduated 1995), the way forward is to drop the current form-factor backwards compatibility. The end result would be a smaller, single-board MISTER with all of the current ports (power, USB, HDMI etc) integrated on that one board. This will work because a lot of physical space on the board is lost just because of those expansion headers, among other things. Removing the headers and integrating all the stuff on different boards in the current stack onto the main board will make a newer generation MISTER board significantly cheaper to manufacture. Also, designing the newer single board MISTER can easily take advantage of the bigger and faster Intel SOC/FPGA used in the DE25 (Intel's newer A5ED013BB32AE4S chip). Of course what you would lose by this upgrade is the hardware plug-compatibility of any existing MISTER add-on boards. That's a good trade off: Gaining smaller, cheaper, faster, and more powerful hardware, while losing plug compatibility with current add-ons.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I’m sure there will be a whole new gen of add on boards when the project eventually transitions to new FPGA hardware

[@rrshier]

I would love to see Taki look into designing a board plus FPGA (perhaps with SRAM as well) that just starts with a lower cost than the DE10 (or in this case what the DE25 will probably be). If he could get the board cost down, then perhaps he could choose a beefier FPGA even to balance the cost out, but benefit gamers vs. educational users.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Would be an interesting concept

[@jon4715]

@@rrshier Mister project needs to be built upon stable, long-term supported hardware, no? I’d prefer a clone in this case.

[@yokeinnchan8401]

A next-gen MISTER board like that would lose plug-in compatibility with existing add-on boards. That said: A lot of the stuff on current add-on boards could easily be integrated onto one board - such as those USB ports and other connectors. It would be much cheaper to manufacture a single board compared to the current 3-stack. It would be easy to swap the current 110K logic element FPGA with the bigger and faster 138K FPGA onto the (proposed) next gen MISTER board. Those gains far outweigh the loss of plug-in compatibility, in my opinion anyway.

[@jerryklein3]

'member MARS? I 'member.

[@brandogg]

Vaporware

[@Wobble2007]

I thought that had legit people working on it, even Mike Chi of RetroTink fame, ah well, could just be done when its done kinda thing, which I think can be a good thing, they might want a totally different approach than the MiSTer and Raspberry Pi scene, in that they want a fully finished and polished product on release, with firmware updates still I'm sure. That would take a few years though.

[@jerryklein3]

@@Wobble2007 Nothing against MARS, just funny to think last year around this time it was supposed to come out.

[@ScandalUK]

I preferred the original Total Recall trailer, personally

[@lalos3813]

Pepperidge farm remembers

[@dataterminal]

Going forward, a more opensource design like QMTech's MiSTer Boards would be more desirable, then users could have what they want. Personally I'd love to see some kind of PCIe board that's that just adds it to the PC as a video/audio capture device on the pc. I could play the games in a window or full screen, capture video from them etc.

[@radicalbyte]

@@dataterminal it'd be cool if the commutity worked together with QMTech and Taki and anyone else on the next Gen. Kinda like Philips did with the MSX.

[@Wobble2007]

A PCIe FPGA board with MiSTeX ported would be amazing, there are some experimental FPGA cores for RetroArch running on PCIe FPGA boards.

[@kosmosyche]

@@Wobble2007 Personally, this is what I would really love to see. A PCIe Mister FPGA variant.

[@alpha434]

Keep in mind that the "defense" application mentioned by intel is probably emulating legacy systems that are no longer produced exactly like we are doing.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Could very well me. So much of that equipment runs on stuff like Win 3.1 lol

[@alpha434]

@VideoGameEsoterica Some of our legacy ICBM and nuclear systems are still barely-post vacuum tube computer systems. 20 years ago, the question of whether some of these systems still in deployment could be affordably upgraded so that they would actually fire if we needed them. Hardware emulation is the answer because it doesn't require us to start over with new systems. Another good example is the Apollo program, where if we even needed to look at the data from systems that old we probably don't have a computer that could even do so right now. FPGA gives us the ability to write a core from old system schematics and go.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Especially when it comes to missiles

[@PM-xc8oo]

As much as anything, what I'd personally appreciate is if the MiSTer 2 had better scaling capabilities.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Seems like a popular thing today

[@Tense]

@@VideoGameEsoterica Makes sense, given the relatively high cost for the retrotink 4k (the work is amazing not withstanding), including even relatively modest scaling would be a major boon for the value.

[@mudstuff]

Especially for playing some cores on CRT where they're just a small window like the Gameboy. I'm currently less fussed about scaling for HDMI displays as I play almost exclusively on CRT but I appreciate they won't be around forever and it's the future

[@JayrosModShop]

Agreed, not everyone wants to shell out $700+ for a RetroTink 4K.

[@kosmosyche]

My opinion, if Mister 2 is to be developed, I'd say it's specs at least need to aim at a possible Dreamcast core development. Otherwise, it's kinda almost pointless (or at least very little added value compared to Mister1). I doubt that DE-25 with it's 138K LEs is enough for DC. So, based on that logic, I'd say, no, it ain't the future, sadly. Might be some intermediary step though, like Mister 1.5 or Mister FPGA PRO. But then again it seems to be a bit too expensive for what added value it could realistically offer. lol

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

We’d need to see what a DC would need footprint wise. It may be doable still

[@actzaku7106]

Having cores developed for the Dreamcast, Naomi, Hikaru, and if possible Naomi 2 would be my dream come true for a future fpga based Mister successor.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Ooh Hikaru. I can only dream

[@eugeneko26]

Definitely exited for possible hardware upgrade for MiSTer!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Could be good

[@ArtificialDjDAGX]

idk if it's just me, but the music seems to be as loud as VGE's voice

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Let me see

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Sounds fine in my studio monitors. Maybe YT did something odd and it’s just an issue for a few people because I’ve gotten 50+ comments and only two people have noted it. So could be some weird encode balancing issue depending on device

[@Code7Unltd]

@@VideoGameEsoterica It sound fine through my Samson SR850 (Superlux HD668 rebadge) headphones. I wonder what OP's EQ is like...

[@DrLilo]

I don't mind which board gets picked, the issue for me is fracturing the community. We absolutely need consensus on which platform to move to. MiSTer is special because it's UNIFIED.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

It will have consensus

[@kosmosyche]

If the project is good it will have consensus.

[@OCDRex11]

As someone who is configuring his Nano as we speak, my heart hit the floor for a second, lol. Glad I was given so much info about the differences and I know that the DE10 isn't getting trumped any time soon.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Haha hence why I was very clear we are taking something probably 18-24 months away minimum

[@winterhell2002]

Something I'd like to see is the ability to send low latency video from the hardware to the PC directly through usb 3.0 like a capture card. An HDMI in to act as an actual capture card would be even better.

[@Wobble2007]

You have MiSTerCast, which can be captured, but a direct USB 4.0 video connection with asynchronous 40GB/ps would be amazing for direct low latency connection with a PC.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Would be an interesting use case

[@Tense]

I agree with setting a level of expectation on these things and not getting hopes up. But, I will say that we said the DE10 would never play PS1 or N64. So, the magic these geniuses come up with with more room available... I bet we see things that we say wouldn't be possible.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

A lot of these are down to sheer cpu speeds and it’s a good way to quickly eliminate some options

[@Joe3D]

It remains to be seen if there are timing issues with the DE25 (no patch for any N64 game lets's say), it's not only the logic elements, and if will allow certain analog outputs out of the box.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Yes this is all just theoretical

[@jgorres]

I would like the MiSTer team to work with Taki Udon's Retro Remake company to create exactly what they want... As long as that includes an FPGA chip capable of running a PS2 core!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

You never know what will happen

[@jon4715]

@@jgorres As long as it’s open source and anyone can reproduce the board. Availability is more important than cost, imo.

[@jgorres]

@@jon4715 Open sourced after 1 year, maybe? Whoever does the design work needs to recoup that cost.

[@jon4715]

@@jgorres Then you have to develop a nonprofit or a foundation or something that can manage the open sourcing according to contract.

[@kosmosyche]

Personally, I think eventually someone will take charge of the new FPGA project and basically make it a reality. Eventually that's how we'll get Mister 2 or Misterer or The Mistest FPGA (whatever you want it to call). This is what happened with both Mist and Mister. There was no team at first, just one person with an idea and knowledge and will to do it. The developers and the team came on board afterwards. The committee of developers will be discussing it till kingdom come and nothing will be done in the end. lol

[@NotMattForman]

Considering every console after N64/PS1/Saturn is disc based, I'm fine just emulating PS2/Dreamcast/GC+. Maybe I'll look into a mini PC (or Pi5?) eventually to have a similar plug and play experience in the living room. But MiSTer today already has enough games to last a lifetime.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Past Dreamcast there isn’t much upside to FPGA

[@xFlesk]

I'd rather see Taki and Sorgelig teaming up and releasing a dedicated, more powerful and of course cheaper FPGA based gaming toy.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I mean that’s always an option

[@TiBiAstro]

rather? they're not mutually exclusive.

[@DaveRepairs]

Yes exactly, we need more Devs both on this and MAME and they should have patrons funding systems to help with their bills. Sadly I am not in this position but fixing arcade hardware makes me sad when I cant fix something that so could be fixed in Mister or MAME. However I would love to follow a tutorial on how to make a core of say Pong or Hello World online/KZbin. As i said before, secrets to arcade hardware repair or software needs to be recorded, when said person passes away then someone else needs to pick it up

[@METR0lD]

Dreamcast and NAOMI are the...ahem...dream.

[@werpu12]

so is the ps2 but this will stay a dream for the forseeable future, the gpus are way more complex as well!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

lol go home

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

PS2 is one of those consoles where FPGA really won’t bring much to the table vs software emu

[@theobserver4214]

@@VideoGameEsotericahow so? although PCSX2 is pretty well made.

[@JayrosModShop]

I'm excited for the DE25-Nano, it's got a lot of potential. I'm also curious how powerful the ARM side of things will be.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

ARM will def be a big bump

[@WWammyy]

I am thinking the De10 nano still has life in it yet. While it can't hit anything Dreamcast and above. We still have other consoles like the Atari Jaguar + 3DO that haven't been bought to FPGA

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Oh it absolutely still has life in it

[@seantaft3853]

So, in about 5 years, when a smaller DE-25 comes out, is when MiSTer 2 will happen. Watch as this becomes a Raspberry Pi 5 situation where cheaper, better options exist when the smaller DE-25 happens.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I’d guess it’ll be two years

[@simon41978]

My PS2 project that was a write-off gained another problem as the P1 controller port has blown. I know it isn't best procedure but all I did was connect the controller when it was on. I do think the move from cartridges to CD and DVD brought durability issues. So, PS2 and the Dreamcast being usable without such issues would be awesome. I can wait.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Sounds cursed

[@kevinlowe0]

I think the developer limitation is understated, even in this video. The mid-90s saw a significant increase in in CPU complexity, going to deep pipelines and out-of-order execution. Beyond the PS1, you get to a point where you'd need a professional team making this their day job in order to get the CPU implemented. What I'm hoping for isn't more cores, but better versions of what we have. In particular, I'd like to see the ao486 core reworked. It's still a bit underpowered for the last games of the 486 era. I wouldn't mind an alternate build that drops the OPL2 in favor of an FPU, and either pushes the CD audio out to the ARM cores or requires you to bring your own MIDI module for music. The stretch goal would be running MechWarrior 2, but that might be out of reach.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I talked deeper about that in a previous video where I said don’t expect PS2 era for a long time if ever

[@naikrovek]

well one of the nice things about FPGAs is that you can recompile for the new board easily (thought not always quickly.) So, someone that wanted to "port" MiSTer to this board could do so without much trouble.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Yes it’s not free but it’s still in the same nuclear family of FPGA

[@Sirdrexl]

What I'm looking for more in the next one is better video output bandwidth, like 4K/120hz. I'm not that interested in more powerful systems like the Dreamcast, because I would prefer emulation at that point to run them at higher resolutions. But 4K output would mean that the scanline filters/shadow masks could work with higher precision, and the TV wouldn't have to scale 1080p to 4K. It would be like the Retrotink, but on the same device.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

4K is a popular feature request for the potential successor

[@flottenheimer]

Love MiSTer as it is. But ultimately we will need something that can handle CV1000's SH-3 ;D - and developers. Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers as Ballmer would say.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I’ll have a vid on devs shortly

[@yopachi]

👏👏👏

[@flottenheimer]

@@VideoGameEsotericahot topic. Looking forward to that video.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Should be fun

[@Intelligenz_Bestie]

Our best bet for a FPGA based PS2 emulator in the near future would be a dual chip system, with not one but two whole FPGAs each dedicated to EE and GS respectively, would have to be cheap Chinese chips like in MARS for that to be feasible

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

The hardest part is the man hours to make it. We’re talking a team. Not an individual

[@NiallGriffin]

On a somewhat related note, is MARs dead? I haven't heard anything about it in months.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

They say it’s not

[@kosmosyche]

Oh, they just opened a portal to hell. Otherwise, work in progress.

[@MegaDeKay]

Maybe it's the new math but back when I was in school, 138K LEs - 110K LEs = +28K LEs and not +38K LEs.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Haha it’s what happens in your brain when you say X38 minus 110 = then you say 38 again because the math ends in 8 and your brain tricks you into saying the same thing twice. Or all that AP calc has worn off 🤣

[@Е.А-н9э]

Hi ! What is the name of the console with a PS1-style FPGA processor ? Please tell me. I've lost the link to it.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

M3 Marsupial Multisystem

[@arkanciscan]

How will DE10 cores be ported to other platforms like the DE25?

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

It’s still the nuclear family of chips evolutionary and it still works on the same code toolchain. That doesn’t make it a “free” port but it’s not too much either

[@Sarvets]

There is still so much lateral movement for old arcade stuff that the mister as it exsists now could prob stay in the spotlight for years tbh. For anyone waiting on a succesor- id just say break out your ps2s, dreamcasts and whatever else out now and just enjoy em vs waiting. Im guessing its gonna be a long while

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Plenty more arcade fun to come in sure

[@TarikA]

If I had a MiSTer successor that would include cores for GameCube, Wii and Wii U, I could die happily as I could then could say goodbye to my good old (modded) Wii U. While I don't care too much about PS2/Xbox and their successors, I'd also love to have a better PC core that runs up to W98 including many games of that time without issues. I think I would have to wait more than 10 or 15 years for all of this to happen in the FPGA universe. Until then, life isn't too bad though as the MiSTer and Wii U already cover up most of the things I'm interested in.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Wii U is such an advanced system it’s not something likely to see FPGA in the next decade if at all

[@TarikA]

@@VideoGameEsoterica Probably correct. And of course I didn't mean the >next< MiSTer successor but rather >any< (later) one, hopefully still in my lifetime. :D

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Ahh I see. 10-15 years probably doable

[@_BELMONT_]

Good morning! Time will only tell where we go with the DE25!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

It’ll be fun to find out

[@elphive42]

I think it’s probably better long-term to move to dedicated hardware made specifically by the community. I don’t think Terasic particularly appreciates the retro gaming demand for the DE-10, and having a MiSTer platform being dedicated to the community makes convenience features a lot more approachable. (For instance, having a single USB-C cable for Taki’s board is much more convenient than the Y-split barrel plugs of the Altera board.)

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

My guess is it doesn’t go down the “one new company manufacturing everything”

[@jworkman753]

Have you seen news on the neptUNO+ FGPA? What do you think of its potential? Do you think it is a true competitor of MiSTer FGPA?

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Hardware doesn’t make competitors. The dev scene and the community around hardware does. Any competitor needs that more than anything IMO

[@lunchbox-9164]

Is it possible to add an optical drive to a Mister to play original discs? I expect its a no.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Not really. Maybe in some weird creative way but generally not

[@NoSpamForYou]

You don't want to. Laser, vibration and spinning forces probably contribute to disc rot. Rip your discs once and keep them stored away.

[@DrSoda.]

I can tell tons of effort went into this. Nice, thanks. God bless. Jesus loves you!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Glad you enjoyed

[@TroyS-x6x]

Waiting for a mister fpga that'll do original xbox lel

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Maybe 2035 haha

[@alyx4436]

So Model 2 and Naomi maybe?

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Just presuming but potentially

[@Major_Kenny]

Hey man don't joke around I just got my mistercade (dual ram) :P Hopefully we can get the MK games working from MK 1 to UMK3 arcade at least, even though I love MK4. I'm a MK Kollector so I would want every version available haha. Although I must say it will be sweet playing all the MK games for all the systems available.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I just had an MK 4 board come in. Well it’s Invasion but same hardware

[@spotifyseascapessmoothjazz]

At what point do consoles become too complex to realistically develop homebrew FPGA cores for? I thought PS1/N64/Saturn were pushing the limit on that already.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Past Dreamcast it’ll become insanely hard and not of much benefit

[@TangoFoxtrotWhiskey]

What's that case? I kind of like it, but it has some odd choices.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Which one?

[@TangoFoxtrotWhiskey]

​@@VideoGameEsotericaThe white one that looks somewhat like a PlayStation.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Ahh the Marsupial M3 system

[@TangoFoxtrotWhiskey]

@@VideoGameEsoterica Thanks!

[@TheGreatMunky]

What's stopping someone like Taki from adding DDR4 to his board right now?

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

My guess is the board wouldn’t be compatible with DDR4

[@etvow]

Bring it on. The current Mister production rates and inflated costs have been going for WAY TOO LONG. Get rid of these scalpers and high-margin crooks and bring on the new.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

High end margin crooks? You realize it’s all just Terasic made up until Taki like a month ago right?

[@thaKingRocka]

I can't really follow the speech with the music that loud. I know it's not an issue for everyone, but it's an accessibility issue for me. I just went by the comments for my info on this.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

It must be an encoding issue on this one vid on the YT side

[@MegaDeKay]

@@VideoGameEsoterica I found the music pretty loud as well.

[@brockraybon]

I always wanted to do that!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Haha I advocate for it

[@jon4715]

How many simultaneous players can the Mister/DE-10 handle? I want to put together 10-player Saturn Bomberman. Possible?

[@lukasperuzovic1429]

What the hardware can do? I am not sure, at least 8. The Framework, MiSTer main core + Linux Backend is set up for total of 6 players at the moment. For the Saturn Core to support 10 players the Framework has to be upgraded first, no idea if this would be USB?BT compatible or if Snax is needed.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Honestly I’ve never tried to find the max

[@jon4715]

Thanks for the replies. Six is what I’ve found through research, but if the DE-25 could somehow help support 10 players, that would be enough for me. Wonder why this is such a tough thing to find information about.

[@cardetailingstudioaustria4121]

I See Sega model 2 and 3 games in Future 😅

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

You never know

[@JFML1974]

As I posted on X. I think that a very profitable business is being generated and deals are being made between companies interested in selling their hardware and people interested in making a lot of money with "contributions" etc. What was once preservation is now an economic battle that will anger big companies in the long run. There are still many arcade titles missing and the hardware change is faster than finish arcade pcb replication project. I hope I'm wrong, greetings, thanks 😢

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Plenty more titles to come

[@ThetaxDeltax]

So they made a new one? THought d10 nano was the one they picked for the best. Then funded. They should do everything on the d10 nano. One dude in the group is saying not getting one until it can do ps2 and og Xbox. MiSTer is fine. Retro is what we where looking for. Hopefully it can do much more. That board looks like the MiST.

[@ThetaxDeltax]

suppose 4k upscaling. Maybe even 8k. Dreamcast and to par arcade power emulation.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

It’s a new DE series board

[@czr5014]

Want to see a system 573 core

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

That would be a fun time

[@retroarcadefan]

Defending the universe is important!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Haha it’s the only one we’ve got

[@RiccardoGrc]

Not sure sbout ps2 since it's so hard to reproduce or emulate for its exotic hardware, but i hope at least for dreamcast or naomi board.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

DC/NAOMI may be feasible

[@christoffergurell1900]

If it cant to 4k hdmi then they should not bother!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

We shall see

[@timothyscotthendrix]

Genuine question, what are folks getting out of 4K for retro gaming? Slightly sharper edges to the upscaled pixels?

[@Norweeg]

@@timothyscotthendrix It works out really well mathematically for scaling. Pixel perfect and no cropping.

[@Brux-_-304]

@@timothyscotthendrixcrt effects are a lot better with that many pixels to play around with also. Its way into diminishing returns territory imo but it’s definitely a nice to have feature

[@PopeTheRevXXVIII]

Pope's FPGA cycle Oh I have a pi4 I don't need a MISTer Ohhhh these arcade cores are cool Nah I have my laptop But oooh this Mars might be cool Ugh all this FPGA creator drama But the Taki Console might be cool.. Current stage: the Retroid Pocket 5 looks pretty cool and plays up to PS2... Hmmm I have Everdrives and the AVS so I'm not FPGAless

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Be like me…use it all!

[@PopeTheRevXXVIII]

I don't know if you had Tech TV back in the day before the G4 merger but they made this all in one box called the Yoshii's boxx that played like everything I've been chasing my version of that for the last 22 years 😂 The video is on KZbin if you never saw it. There were 2 versions but only the original was epic. It was the precursor to the all in everything FPGA/polymega

[@ninetendopesaitama2107]

Not really a MiSTer 2. A successor should have much more LEs. ☮️

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

We shall see

[@alexdanciu5107]

I wish to be also a xilin version for mister fpga

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Huh?

[@kosmosyche]

Why?

[@-valkyrie-00]

i was joking when i said mistr 2 lol

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Haha still works

[@ON1MUSH4]

No 4k HDMI output :(

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Seemingly no

[@ON1MUSH4]

@@VideoGameEsoterica sadly :( I was hoping

[@galen__]

Multiple FPGAs on a board?

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Not as useful as one would think but can serve a purpose

[@galen__]

@@VideoGameEsoterica I imagine syncing data between multiple cores would require a dedicated controller too. Lots of different things can break or make it possible 😁

[@franciscooteiza]

Oh I see a Dreamcast core in the future, maybe?

[@lukasperuzovic1429]

You be waiting a while then

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

In a few years perhaps

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Yes I do say in the vid we are talking years not months

[@lordofudead]

Dreamcast/ Naomi maybe? Probably not though.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Possible but not guaranteed. Still early theory crafting days

[@axxxtz]

"mister 2" or "misterer" :D

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Electric MiSTerALoo

[@kosmosyche]

The Mistest.

[@themadhater9003]

​@@kosmosycheMistest is right or it would be the mist 3.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

MiST3r

[@yopachi]

MiSTer-6th-Geneneration

[@samuelbanya]

Let's hope there is a Chinese copy.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Never know

[@DefaultUsername0001]

🎉🎉🎉

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

👍

[@andrewnguyen9923]

176th street 👌

[@bengineer_the]

Chain 2 de-10 board together and implement the CPU and GPU on each one (for PS2)? If you use the DDR pin driving logic, you can clock and run a parallel bus between two FPGA's quite easily. :)

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Sounds like an overkill solution haha

[@BaronStVon]

The MiSTer 2 better play PS2 🤡

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Haha it probably won’t

[@LoganE01]

I feel like a real evolution in the FPGA gaming would be a hybrid FPGA ARM/RISC system for hybrid emulators... Could also allow for a liteweight desktop environment while allowing for awesome accuracy... Could also be a great dev tool for classic games and testing....

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

I wouldn’t be opposed to that but I also wouldn’t expect it based on the project philosophy

[@LoganE01]

​@@VideoGameEsoterica well maybe someone will come along and risk the "headaches" to make the circuit up...

[@radicalbyte]

The Cyclone series are used in the guidance systems of the missiles Russia fires on Ukraine.

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Oh this tech is all over every industry trust me

[@brockraybon]

First!

[@VideoGameEsoterica]

Comment came in second. So close!

[@brockraybon]

This is rigged! Haha