This tiny computer changes EVERYTHING

[@miznitic5574]

I keep waiting to see what you are going to be next time. Each time though, you say until next time, you're Jeff Geerling.

[@JeffGeerling]

One of these days...

[@insu_na]

@@JeffGeerling "Until next time and beyond, I'm [...]"

[@thegreenxeno9430]

@@JeffGeerling Next time: "I'm AI Jeff."

[@tonysheerness2427]

I do not know where he gets the time to sleep with all the kit he is testing and playing with·

[@BacchiosCorax]

One day he might bring other people to his show, who knows... 😁

[@DFYX]

Now if someone could make a Framework laptop mainboard that takes compute modules...

[@niv8880]

That's a really good idea.... love that. Is that not a good kickstarter project....

[@ratznefumel]

Nexdock with raspberry pi integration slot? Only have to upgrade what you need. Need extra storage add an extra m.2 drive. Maby someday will get a small formfactor gpu that can be interchangable

[@ghost_of_you_tube]

Framework laptop can use x86, risc-v, arm is just a time question😮

[@CutoutClips]

Like the compute module replaces the processor? Doesn't seem very useful, given that it's still a lot less powerful than any regular framework processor. Not sure what the use-case there would be. A custom low cost laptop chassis that uses the CM5 would be cool though.

[@ghost_of_you_tube]

@CutoutClips smartphones 😁

[@Hamal86]

Wow this has to be one of the fist videos on the CM5. Respect Jeff.

[@JeffGeerling]

🤜🤛

[@Name-gi8dr]

​@@JeffGeerling LoL, well done 😂😂

[@williamrutter3619]

Time for a raspberry pi phone.

[@niv8880]

I'm up for that!

[@g3n3r1c6]

I'd love that but I dread the cooling issues it'd present

[@alpha_pixel_]

You can diy one already.

[@KeritechElectronics]

...with a rotary dial - Justine Haupt, here we go again! :)

[@sivasanthoshr.m2222]

We still need better gpu

[@OddlyTugs]

Imagine an Apple M4 Compute module. Just the wicked factor in that. They'd make bank all the posh appliance could say running on apple

[@JeffGeerling]

I would LOOOOVE an SBC-form-factor M4.

[@UnderEu]

Only 599, would require proprietary power supply & accessory adapters + will burn itself out while idling

[@niekbergboer]

It's great that this is a drop-in replacement on the Super6C! I did try to run Ceph on that in the past, but my experience has been that it is seriously hampered by the 1-Gbe switch; Ceph really needs more bandwidth than that. Unfortunately, as you said earlier in the video; despite the CM5 theoretically having all this bandwidth, there is no way to get it out of the module on the Super6C. I would love to see a Super6C with a 2.5 or 5 Gbe switch chip on it.

[@JeffGeerling]

Ditto! DeskPi's been pretty good about updating based on community feedback (like they've tweaked their 10" rack accessories a bit since they launched!). Hopefully they can do that (at least 2.5 Gbps...).

[@IamTheHolypumpkin]

I’ve kinda wished that they also would’ve made a version without the RP1 and giving us the 4 PCIe lanes of the RP1. :)

[@JeffGeerling]

Ditto :( But then all their camera/display/GPIO stuff would need to be reworked, so I can't see that happening.

[@theobama8535]

Hopefully someone is quick to making an itx/atx board for the CM5 that can use ATX power and a PCIE slot, I think this really is the first raspberry pi to ACTUALLY be a desktop replacement, the CM4 was fast and all, but the CM5's improved PCIE support is major imo. Exciting stuff.

[@JeffGeerling]

I would love this so much-Radxa led the way for an Arm SBC-based ITX board, would like to see something either official from Pi, or from a 3rd party that works nicely.

[@Adam130694]

As a noob in SBC matter: why just don’t use N100?

[@FluffyPuppyKasey]

@@Adam130694 Arm is low power. The N100 uses about 20W, the Pi 5 about 10W, or about half the power consumption. Sure for a desktop the N100 would be the better option due to compatibility, but the Pi is meant for projects that need efficiency

[@Adam130694]

@ I saw 5-8W at IDLE in Windows on N100?!

[@H3cJP]

​@@Adam130694hence you are answering yourself, that is a lot more than rpi FOR IDLE

[@wywywywywywywy]

Is it compatible with the Home Assistant Yellow?

[@JeffGeerling]

Good question, and I need to test and see!

[@TaylorThomasVideo]

Just got my kit in the mail with a CM4, already shopping for an upgrade before it's built 😂

[@sanchit1986]

Kudos for reading all your comments, can't wait for the 16gb varient 😁

[@JeffGeerling]

Supposedly it will come 'early 2025'. Hope to test that, since I might get games like Forza Horizon 4 running!

[@BunkerSquirrel]

This is the computer I’ve been waiting for. Finally, it’s time to build my Cyberdeck motherboard.

[@Pippo.Langstrumpf]

I just can't handle that much performance. My brain still works well with RPI 2040.

[@JeffGeerling]

"264 KB [of SRAM] is enough for anyone!"

[@jimtekkit]

The RP2040 is a very versatile chip. If only the RP2350 didn't have the stupid errata E9 bug because it would otherwise be a true no-brainer upgrade.

[@hulao7247]

Hello Jeff! We are designing an expansion board based on the CM5, featuring rich functionalities and ease of use-perfect for makers and developers. We’d be happy to send you a sample for unboxing and review to share your experience. Would you be interested? Looking forward to hearing from you! 😊

[@hulao7247]

I’ve sent an email hope you have a chance to check it. If convenient, I look forward to your reply. Thank you so much! 😊

[@PeterMountUK]

This might be an interesting upgrade for my uConsole - which has the CM4 in it

[@JeffGeerling]

That's one board I'd love to see with CM5. Hopefully it'll work!

[@PeterMountUK]

@@JeffGeerling I can see there are a few pins which now do something different between the CM4 & CM5 but I think (would need to check) those aren't used by the uConsole so I think it should work

[@RazielMessiah]

The CM4 shortage slapped me back to reality and taught me that a N100 mini pc is cheaper, more reliable and better in every single aspect....Not to mention the time I saved from all the relentless surgical tinkering required just to make things work. Good video though!

[@YellowRambler]

I would like to see more about CM5 for routers with 4 lan ports or more and WiFi 🛜, I tired of trying to convert a store bought router into something better.

[@slimhazard]

@JeffGeerling do you plan to test the CM5 on the Turing Pi? I‘m curious if it can be dropped in where CM4 modules had been running on the TPi before.

[@JeffGeerling]

Haven't had time for that testing, but hope to pop one in on a carrier board in my TP2 cluster soon. Note that I have the older 2.5 revision board (I think? Maybe 2.3?), there's a newer Turing Pi 2 revision out there now.

[@slimhazard]

@@JeffGeerling they sell versions 2 and 2.5 now. Sounds like you may have a content creator’s sneak preview version of the 2.5.

[@JeffGeerling]

@@slimhazard Ah, just checked the Turing Pi site-the board I have is from more than a year ago. The 2.5 is just finishing up production! It has a number of tweaks to make use a little easier, but I don't have one of those. I have an old (now non-functional) prototype, and a Kickstarter version I got after backing it.

[@adamc6996]

This title is clickbait. Come on Jeff, you can do more than that.

[@plinketharry7469]

I absolutely despise KZbin click bait titles. I wish they were more descriptive so we actually know what the episode is about. Same with ever channel tho :(

[@MatthewJohnCrittenden]

It's not clickbait if you appreciate every Jeff video and watch them all anyway ;) Blame the platform/algorithm rather than the creator is my view.

[@JeffGeerling]

That's why power users subscribe to the blog ;) No clickbait required, plus all the graphs for days! I also don't make a dime off the blog, but that's not why I write!

[@jzlharvey]

@@JeffGeerlinggrifters grift. 🤷

[@eccodreams]

​​@@JeffGeerlingplease just title your videos normally again. It's so annoying.

[@WizardUli]

Still no suspend to ram which has generally worked in linux for at least two decades :(

[@Kw1161]

Thanks for this information and well crafted video. I hope this board will be compatible with my new ClockworkPi Uconsole that now uses a CM4! Have a great day!

[@Waveshare_Ruan]

We can't do without Jeff Geerling! I really want to buy a few red shirts to pay tribute to Jeff and give them to my colleagues, haha. The video quality is really great!!

[@djkacho]

Really really awesome Jeff, a lot of useful information to start using these CM and a full index for carrier boards. Keep doing these as well. Greetings from north of Spain

[@piconano]

I skipped Raspberry 4 waiting for Raspberry 5. Now I have to wait for the second revision so as to not get the lemon 1st version. Then I'll wait for the price to come down. Then Raspberry 6 will come out and I'll wait for that instead. I get to wait and rest from all that waiting.

[@JeffGeerling]

Heh, there's always a new shiny version on the horizon!

[@AlejandroJCura]

Wonderful video packed full of info. Had to stop it several times and rewind a bit to understand it all!

[@xWarpworksx]

Can't wait, been struggling to source a CM4 for months

[@Crushertalos]

For some reason I find the time server incredibly interesting, I look forward to your video on that. Regardless, thanks for all of your hard work, always super jazzed when I see a new vid pop up on my subscription feed. Let's give Jeff a round of applause!

[@DanielLopez-up6os]

Im here fawining over the CM5 knowing well that my 3B+ is more than enough for my Camera SDR setup.

[@JeffGeerling]

If it works, it works! And that setup probably uses a tiny bit less power, too. Never a bad thing!

[@tommythorn]

A router board with this would be interesting. Yes, there are loads of these already, but not with the support that Raspberries enjoy.

[@N3tigen]

Apple should learn at least $100 raspberry Pi support external GPU Where Apple $50k mac pro don't

[@JeffGeerling]

Raspberry Pi do what Apple don't!

[@Adam130694]

@@JeffGeerlingRaspberry > Apple Take that!

[@Dave102693]

That’s what I’ve been saying for a while now! Ampare and Rpi can support edGPUs, but Apple can’t? Make it make sense!

[@Happy_World_1]

soon Raspberry Pi zero 3w with 1/2gb ram 🤩

[@JeffGeerling]

I would loooove that. Or at least Zero 2W with 1/2GB!

[@ccricers]

This is what I really am looking forward to as well. Easier to integrate than the CM boards.

[@GetsVR]

I thought the CM5 would have 4x PCI-E lanes for some reason

[@JeffGeerling]

It technically has 5! But 4 of them are routed straight into the RP1 chip.

[@seisoloumano]

What about the home assistant Yellow? I know it's not a hi performance application, but it gets quite cranky when filled with plugins

[@JeffGeerling]

I didn't think about that at all... I have two of them, would love the upgrade! I'll have to test soon.

[@hackerx7329]

A NAS with one of these at the heart is now a workable solution with no drawbacks for data warehousing of media files and backups.

[@kllrt]

Would CM5 help with improving RPI5 NAS you made?

[@JeffGeerling]

It would certainly be easier for a company to design an integrated solution. I hope Radxa can resurrect their 'Taco' design for an updated Pi CM5 NAS!

[@kllrt]

@@JeffGeerling Ah, I see need to check out their "Taco" design! Would be nice more companies to make NAS solutions. I've tried buying Radxa SATA HAT you used for Pi NAS and it's sold out everywhere.

[@thegooberman]

Im not seeing it for sale anywhere. Hopefully it just works in my clockworkPi Uconsole.

[@niv8880]

I perked up when you mention Kubernetes.... Better than the N100 and can run Ubuntu Server(?). Related but a side note, love to see a video of how to get cheap nodes with low res graphics, doesn't come with Windohs 11 preinstalled, got at least 8GB, PCIe and a 2.5G ethernet. I bought 3 'stick' computers for my lab last week and had to pay the $20 Microsoft tax (like the old OEM days).. thanks for this though, really good info.

[@lezzard]

I may have missed it in the video but did you test if the BliKVM v2 PCIE card supports the CM5?

[@JeffGeerling]

Did not directly test it yet. Hope to soon, though!

[@mskiptr]

To me, "software support" doesn't mean wide selection of OS images, but all drivers being available upstream and support in independent (downstream) distributions.

[@TomaszStachewicz]

Wow, awesome! Let's see when uConsole starts supporting this module, especially if it's a drop-in replacement

[@utp216]

Wow!! I’ve been waiting for this! Thanks you Jeff! 🤘

[@kettusnuhveli]

Have to agree with everybody on that the title should at least mention the CM5. For somebody who doesn’t want to be known as “the Raspberry Pi guy” you sure seem to have a lot to gain from these RPI videos to use clickbait titles like that…

[@jonathanmandl4001]

Welectron lists a 16GB model! This is great!

[@JeffGeerling]

According to Raspberry Pi's official news post, a 16 GB model could come in early 2025.

[@kittenzrulz2314]

Hopefully we'll see CM5 handhelds popping up :3

[@noeperard8843]

I wish for a carrier board (ideally for CM5 gen) that has true mini-itx form factor and that can be a drop in replacement for regular PC hardware. this would be perfect for those that want to build low power PCs for their familly or repurpose existing hardware, but don't want to invest/rely in custom built casing, etc... My use case would be turning my PC into a NAS and replacing the high power consumption of first gen ryzen to something that can easily be passively cooled or cooled by the case fan. there also would be the option to use cases like the jonsbo N-series to build powerful, yet generationally upgradable ARM NAS. (especially with that Radxa board, the idle power consumption makes it a perfect candidate for a device that will idle most of the day/night).

[@JeffGeerling]

Radxa has their RK3588 ITX board, it is certainly an interesting option! The CM5 could make for an upgradable platform, too. I'd love to see it.

[@seisoloumano]

Finally the CM5!

[@KeritechElectronics]

Looks like CM5 (and regular RPi5) has a lot of potential as a networked video streaming and monitoring device :)

[@JeffGeerling]

Indeed... time for me to upgrade my NVR I think!

[@trowawayacc]

Hopefully the pilet product (an off the shelf cyberdeck) will use a similar module. Also the old uconsole can use the update.

[@spunkychops7484]

Another great video ❤Thank you

[@julianengel13]

If we were to consider doing a home video setup like you did, would it make sense to use a CM5 and SSD, or to go with a ready made storage solution?

[@superangrybrit]

Tried the CM4 on the CM5 IO Board? 🤔

[@JeffGeerling]

That's... actually a great question! I tried the CM5 on the CM4 IO Board (you have to supply a different DTB to get everything working), but didn't try the reverse. I *assume* it should just work, since the only major difference is the USB 3.0 data lines would route into two of the Camera/Display connectors...

[@Lardzor]

So, you're jumping on the 'THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING" bandwagon.

[@JeffGeerling]

From a technical standpoint, everything did change, except for the form factor ;) Well, I guess the BCM54210PE NIC is the same, but otherwise, every other component was revised or upgraded...

[@jsalsman]

I really need a 16 GB RAM model. Long story, too much data.... Crossing fingers.

[@JeffGeerling]

I would like one to see if I can get Forza Horizon 4 running. It was *so* close on the Pi 5 8GB!

[@hunterchasens835]

I'd love to see CEPH performance. Having a small and cheap CEPH cluster for home would be a game changer.

[@mateuszdrab]

Thank you Jeff. I been waiting for this. Any recommendations for a carrier board that will allow me to run Frigate and 1/2 3.5 inch HDDs in a simple enclosure that does not break the bank and is available in the UK? (bear in mind nothing is available here 😅)

[@wsk-clown]

Jeff what was that board you slide right into the TV I need that in my life if I can replace my TV IO board because my TV had factory defect so I'd rather just replace it with something better

[@JeffGeerling]

Unfortunately that board is specific to NEC / Sharp commercial TVs. If only all TVs had hot-swappable compute module boards!

[@wsk-clown]

@JeffGeerling agreed but I'd still like to see if I could force it to work with a little reverse engineering lol

[@wsk-clown]

@JeffGeerling also as a side note most tvs the IO board are generally same size probably manufacturer cost saving

[@sergpryimachuk]

This is awesome! Does TuringPi 2 board support CM5 with CM4 adapter boards?

[@JeffGeerling]

I think it will work, but have not tested it yet.

[@CodesExplorer-hb1wr]

I WAS WAITING FOR IT ALL YEAR

[@christophersmith108]

If I ever devise some sort of adapter card for _any_ piece of electronics, I am totally stealing the name "Awkward Adapter"

[@owenness6146]

I used to be annoyed by memery titles, but from a creator perspective they make sense. There are always new viewers, young audience members, and news cycles where your content could be vital to someone. Yeah, you would hope that "tenured" audience members would understand that expanding the audience is good for the hobby, industry, and developers.

[@Astra7525]

I think Jeff admitted it a few years ago that he doesn't like using the obvious clickbaity tactics like Resting-KZbin-face thumbnails, but it had such a significant impact on success that he cannot afford not to do it.

[@anonymousman4961]

9:49 The 4TB Seagate Ironwolf Pro NAS drive does tend to have some reliability issues in my experience, I had 2 start throwing errors 2 months after getting them :/

[@JeffGeerling]

Oof! So far mine have been okay, but I've only used two 4TB drives in service for long. I have two more spares (this is one of those)... maybe it's already showing signs of premature death!

[@jamesrivettcarnac]

This just changed a major project for me

[@vileerdeng]

Can't wait to make something cool based on the CM5.

[@JeffGeerling]

Can't wait to see what you make!

[@WhiteTornadoGaming]

I just got done building a usb encoder button box. Had to solder wires to the buttons and toggle switches. Would like to learn more about auduino. Is that a possible video idea?

[@corsairfilip]

I really like way of the CM modul. I looking for my new router board and I want like to ask if there is any board for CM module with 4 or 5 ethernet ports ? That would be great for home Linux firewall/router/VPN

[@torch_]

it’s crazy because i was doing research on the CM5 awhile ago

[@JeffGeerling]

And now you have a whole lot more data to study! :D

[@torch_]

@@JeffGeerlingill study it when i even get it, especially when you’re outside the land of freedom and brave, ill also have to save more money because 75 USD is 100 SGD here, and that also excludes the expansion board.

[@cyberdeth8427]

This is awesome! A lot of potential.

[@gyohngpersonal]

It's unfortunate that the Broadcom SoC cannot be ordered separately. The Raspberry Pi Compute Module 5 (CM5) is suitable for low-quantity DIY projects; however, it is not ideal if you hope to scale up or mass-produce things.

[@yt3dkraft]

Still no h.264 hardware encoding for resolutions above 1080p? Still no h.265 hardware encoding? Still no support for 4K video streams from IMX477 sensor cameras?

[@frontier9]

Oh Jeff, always giving us the tech horn

[@kjlovescoffee]

You showed the Turing Pi 2 board but didn't say if the CM5 works on it?

[@zadtheinhaler]

Man, this is awesome. I'm kinda hoping that this will be a drop-in replacement for the CM4 in the Clockworkpi uConsole., though I'm not holding my breath.

[@abdurrehmansaad8669]

cm5 vs rs pi 5 which is best is there a huge diff?

[@JeffGeerling]

Pi 5 can work out of the box-with CM5 you need a carrier board of some sort. So minimum price you'd pay $65 for a 2GB CM5 that's functional (2GB CM5 + IO Board), versus $50 for a 2GB Pi 5. However, you can do a lot more wild stuff with the CM5, though all the carrier boards available!

[@niv8880]

@@JeffGeerling Already been on Aliexpress since your vid was released.

[@brunosantos3672]

Excellent work!!

[@alch3myau]

Good to see dust on those fan blades. *Human after all*

[@JeffGeerling]

Heh.

[@Crestex59]

I actually might buy one to replace my pi4b. What operating system does everyone think it should have on it?

[@Samael1113]

I appear to be tripping over something in the automod and my comment gets zapped and I don't know why... I was looking for direction on what to consider for running an eGPU and NVMe SSD at the same time.

[@ToumalRakesh]

I'm curious to see if I can just plug this into my uConsole. Though... if my Pi5 for astrophotography is anything to go by, it is probably a LOT hotter. Plus the uConsole needs special work to make the display and keyboard work...

[@forthex]

I’m still waiting for my compute blade to ship :|

[@JeffGeerling]

Ditto, though I still have my early dev versions to keep me company :( I hope they get the things out in the US soon. I've been waiting for a project for a very long time.

[@stephane153]

Had plans to setup a mini blade cluster (4x blades), combined costs were too high and the availability of these blades being non-existent... I got myself a Lenovo M720q with a 4 port Intel nic (real one) and put Proxmox on it (going to get a second setup soon to cluster it). Way cheaper and instant availability. These blades appears to be "cool" but... I did ask on their Discord channel, "from your official website, when and how much?". Response was: "we will not sell directly to the public, you will have to buy from a reseller." I left the Discord shortly after reading this and thought... yeah, f...k it.

[@jierenzheng7670]

Kinda wish there was a linux tablet with the RK3588S though with Skymont coming, maybe a tablet with that instead of the current N100 would be awesome

[@rngQ]

Raspi has just become another desktop platform with perhaps less hardware security in exchange for extra low-level features at this point

[@thardie]

It's really disappointing that you can't order this. The links from Raspberry Pi's website link to suppliers that are 404 or blank.

[@JeffGeerling]

Some suppliers are set up on launch day, but it normally takes a day or two for a new product with so many SKUs to become available at all of the resellers. Honestly, I'm not holding my breath, hopefully they're easier to get in a couple weeks! (Normally, a new Pi model takes a month or two to get into wide distribution - the Pi 4/CM4 generation excepted, due to the parts shortages then...).

[@JAlanne]

I'd be interested to see if this could make an NVMe NAS more workable

[@ghost_of_you_tube]

Jeff, how can i become a sbc designer ? .. like ... example: if i want build a smartphone/pc with a cm5, what i need learn ?

[@mskiptr]

Maybe look how MNT Research (or some other Open Source Hardware designer) does their thing

[@EternalCharax]

I'd love to see the compatibility with Home Assistant yellow

[@TobiKellner]

on the video encoding comparisons at 6:16 : Is this the Radxa CM5 doing encoding in software or hardware? I thought the Radxa has hardware encoding that would be significantly faster than the Pi CM5 doing it in software... kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmXFnYVrisZmiZI

[@nyanmisaka]

x264 is software encoder. radxa's cm5 can do in h264/5 hardware encoder at 4k 120fps.

[@poweralpha2011]

can run it crysis?

[@JeffGeerling]

Indeed it can! I didn't get Crysis Remastered downloaded in time for this video though.

[@poweralpha2011]

@@JeffGeerling so i love that

[@moth.monster]

I'm more excited for the boards that other suppliers are making

[@UNVIRUSLETALE]

Might get this for my 3d printer, the 4 is fine but pcie on board and better wifi would make it a lot better

[@gankie1956]

What is the best path to learning everything about pi if you are just starting? Obsessive autistic here, so idc how boring the path is.

[@bryansuh1985]

The recent clickbait is... Eh.

[@norkshit]

when will it be available? i want it now!!!!😢

[@laylasmart]

How does it help to improv a laptop?

[@Papierzeit]

Tiny and nice, great \o/

[@sky37blue]

I'm off to google what a compute module is. I love the videos and this subject but I'm a bit of a clown with all this stuff

[@JeffGeerling]

No problem, it's basically a 'SoM' (System on Module), and there are a lot of those around (not just Arm SBCs turned into SoMs!).

[@uwu-zl6tq]

what's that kubernetes ui?

[@johnnyswatts]

It changed the fine structure constant? That's not good.

[@mannkeithc]

How can a small organisation such as Raspberry Pi get their CM5 developer's kit released and available for purchase, when Qualcomm with all their extra resources made a complete mess of the Snapdragon for Windows 11 2024 developer's kit? I've just purchased the CM5 developer's kit. At £124.40 for CM5 wireless module with 4GB RAM and 32GB eMMC, IO board, CM5 cooler, metal case enclosure with fan, antenna kit, PSU, and HDMI and USB cables, amazing value for money!

[@TecSanento]

How does a cm5 module run on a USB port if they require 5A of current?

[@JeffGeerling]

USB-C PD has a 5V 5A spec available, it's rare but that's what Raspberry Pi chose.

[@terryhayward7905]

Looking at the performance difference between the first RPI and the RPI5, it will not be many years before desktop computers are obsolete. Bye Bye to the big box on the table and hello to the 3d headset with everything built in.

I guess this answers we won't get a Pi 400 successor this year. But this is good news nevertheless.